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Hello guys. I would like to hear some suggestions regarding this. So far I've tried CM7 and emanoN, but both of them drain like hell (specially CM7). Please avoid usual recomendations (turn off data, bluetooth, wireless and all those basic tips).
If there's an app, script or tweak that helps, please share it with me! My priority is battery life, above everything else.
Hope to get some replies! Thanks in advance
Skipping all the basic tips, I suggest you use a pure source-kind of rom. Something like the MOre rom or Pure CM7 by mebitek or kittenlinux, another one is GingerMod. Battery lives one those roms are so far one of the most cheered for. CM9 Beta 7 also had incredible battery life, although the link is probably gone already as mirroring is not allowed by Maclaw. As for the scripts, some mini users find these annoying and just a piece of cr*p, but as for me, I really made sure that it wasn't just a placebo effect. SlaidyBoost v2.3 works well and am happy with the performance and battery life boost that comes with it.
wtfshouldidonow said:
Skipping all the basic tips, I suggest you use a pure source-kind of rom. Something like the MOre rom or Pure CM7 by mebitek or kittenlinux, another one is GingerMod. Battery lives one those roms are so far one of the most cheered for. CM9 Beta 7 also had incredible battery life, although the link is probably gone already as mirroring is not allowed by Maclaw. As for the scripts, some mini users find these annoying and just a piece of cr*p, but as for me, I really made sure that it wasn't just a placebo effect. SlaidyBoost v2.3 works well and am happy with the performance and battery life boost that comes with it.
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Thanks for your comment! What about this one?
That one was originally made to improve battery life when you use wifi most of the time for browsing the net or such, but I can see that other tweaks have been added for an overall change, and based on the comments there, some users found their minis slow down a bit. Although I haven't tried it yet, it's best if you would simply flash the rom you chose to use, boot it up and set up the settings you want initially, then reboot to recovery, make a backup of that rom, then start experimenting with various scripts found here in XDA that is compatible with our mini. If you don't like the results, then simply restore the backup you made earlier. I'll try that script you told me about if I have the time, though.
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Thanks for your comment! What about this one?
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No, that ****ty script doesn't work.
I recommend you the stock ROM if you want battery life.
Stock samsung rom has the best battery life. But, on official CM7 with 604MHz for max, 122MHz for min and ondemand cpu governor, i'm having good battery life, can't complain at all. Haven't tried stock rom for ages, maybe my current setup is even better
domcale said:
Stock samsung rom has the best battery life. But, on official CM7 with 604MHz for max, 122MHz for min and ondemand cpu governor, i'm having good battery life, can't complain at all. Haven't tried stock rom for ages, maybe my current setup is even better
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Thanks man, but I don't think CM7 is the best option when looking for long battery life. I'm going to try de stock based ones and decide if any of them if better than the actual stock rom. Andro-ID, emanoN and GingerMod are apparently the most popular ones. Regarding the others, MORe is discontinued, so I wouldn't go for it, same as the one from kittenlinux. I'll give CyanMobile and mebitek's a try too! Trying GingerMod right now.
CM7.2 is draining battery fast because at default it's using Lil'GV2 governor which is veery agressive regarding CPU frequency! When you set it to ondemand it's much better. It costs you nothing to try it out if you haven't, stock rom is just too ugly and slowish when not rebooted regulary
domcale said:
CM7.2 is draining battery fast because at default it's using Lil'GV2 governor which is veery agressive regarding CPU frequency! When you set it to ondemand it's much better. It costs you nothing to try it out if you haven't, stock rom is just too ugly and slowish when not rebooted regulary
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Installed GingerMod (smartassV2 governor) and overnight battery dropped 35%. That is definitely not normal, and happened with the other ROMs too! Can anyone help me identify the problem?
Edit: BTW, the phone is two weeks old, and when I first bought it I didn't experience this huge drain.
Chaurigol said:
Hello guys. I would like to hear some suggestions regarding this. So far I've tried CM7 and emanoN, but both of them drain like hell (specially CM7). Please avoid usual recomendations (turn off data, bluetooth, wireless and all those basic tips).
If there's an app, script or tweak that helps, please share it with me! My priority is battery life, above everything else.
Hope to get some replies! Thanks in advance
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if u want good battery backup try andro-id ..it gives better backup then stock rom ..
http://yagyagaire.blogspot.in/2012/04/andro-id-v331-for-galaxy-mini-gt-s5570.html
domcale said:
Stock samsung rom has the best battery life. But, on official CM7 with 604MHz for max, 122MHz for min and ondemand cpu governor, i'm having good battery life, can't complain at all. Haven't tried stock rom for ages, maybe my current setup is even better
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TBH stock rom didn't work for me well especially regarding battery life. CM 7.2 official 710MHz/245MHz ONDEMAND battery lasts and lasts and phone is faster. Couldn't ask for more considering mini is entry level android phone for some time :good:
Chaurigol said:
Installed GingerMod (smartassV2 governor) and overnight battery dropped 35%. That is definitely not normal, and happened with the other ROMs too! Can anyone help me identify the problem?
Edit: BTW, the phone is two weeks old, and when I first bought it I didn't experience this huge drain.
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why dont u recallibrate battery after flashing ROMs:
1. Use app battery callibration from store, the developper is Nema i think.
Thanks, but I do that regularly, and as far as I'm concerned that doesn't improve battery life, just the accuracy of the % shown.
Chocobread with antutu battery saver is amazing I don't charge my phone one and a half day and still the battery is at 20 I love this life ... battery life.
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This is my personal use only, but I have share to my friends:
iCUSTOM DXKT6
for screenshoot:
click HERE
But that's in Indonesian language.
Hope u're suitable with iCUSTOM DXKT6.
orieoke said:
This is my personal use only, but I have share to my friends:
iCUSTOM DXKT6
for screenshoot:
click HERE
But that's in Indonesian language.
Hope u're suitable with iCUSTOM DXKT6.
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I appreciate it, but I'm not really familiar with indonesian language. Thanks anyway!
I think stock official CM 7.2 ROM does not contain the kernel. Can anybody please confirm?
On the pc, most of power management is by the kernel. Guess here too, we should look at kernel rather than the rom.?
I may be wrong though.
So, OP, which ROM did you settle for?
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So, OP, which ROM did you settle for?
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Still trying them. I'd say Andro-ID is the best until now! Unfortunately it doesn't support many languages, including mine (spanish).
Chaurigol and wtfshouldidonow, I saw you commented about my project. My project was created specially to achieve a good-battery life. I cannot guarantee that your phone will have great battery life, but you can give a try. Also, you can try my mod with Adrenaline Engine. If you want to try my mod, try to use my edited Adrenaline Engine (which will work with my battery mod):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27664110&postcount=75
My phone (which is now bricked from suspicious reasons) had a great battery life, about 2-4 days.
Hey there people!
Ok so the HTC Desire C seems to be a non supported device on here there are currently no ROMs for it and even the root/ulbl is not fully tested so devs with HTC experience get here to give this device what it needs!
Anyways the device runs on a 600Mhz processor running a long side 512MB RAM supporting Android 4.0.3 ICS, due to the specs the device can be a little sluggish under high operation situations so here are a few basic tips to help.
Install Zeam Launcher.
A small size launcher that is lightning fast, only thing that rivals it is the FTL launcher and looks like sense 4 launcher.
The launcher size is 338k (Google play size) very fast and minimal looking.
FTL follows the trend but size varies on ur device
Bit-Defender.
This is a tiny anti-malware suite, for full features needs payment, but for free it gives nice protection. and i use the desktop versions so yeah
if you prefer the finding ur device more so i suggest lookout due to free scream/locate and no it does not drain battery life!
Juice Defender.
I listen to music a lot when am out, my old X10 did well with an extended battery and Juice defender installed, so i say add it into the desire C, it actually saves battery and manages ur mobile data/wifi automatically.
(After root)
Install Titanium Backup.
This app is a god send, it can remove files embedded into the /system/app folder, so u can remove crappy HTC Sense launcher, also remove other bloatware and rubbish do be careful tho Rooting does void warrenty and removing apps can stop the device from working (WE NEED A RECOVERY!!)
Sysctl Config
I use this on my X10 for gaming, it provides a bit of a boost to performance not much but its there
(you must have busy box to run this, recommended to have latest superuser installed from Google play)
a scripting program - edit scripts (Advanced users/devs only)
This is what makes roms so dam fast over stock, devs have edited the files to increase VM Heaps and other stuff, if your a noob or no scripting skills dont attempt it wait for a pro to do it for you!
Try overclocking. (Advanced Users/Devs)
I dont know much about HTC kernels im a DoomKernel user for the X10, but he got the kernel another 200Mhz on a single core!
Idk if HTC have left any overclock on the kernel and i dont wanna damage my phone testing it as i got it 3 days ago, so feedback please!
Overclocking is one of the most obvious choices for speed, at the cost of battery life you can put the CPU past its standard levels, speeding up your device.
Personally i dont overclock past what doom set my kernel, if you wish to do it personally use NoFrills CPU (Free) or SetCPU (Paid) both need Root
Ok rant over! most of this stuff may not be yet possible on the device but i hope it does, its a nice little device cheap and cheerful! devs come and unlock the potential it has forget One X n S3 they got there stuff
Disclaimer
I Will Not Be Held Responsible For Any Damages In Any Area Or Spec Of Your Device(s) You Do It Your Fault No One Elses! Nor Mine Or The Devs.
Apps shown in description....
Zeam Launcher (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.zeam&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
FTL Launcher Lite (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sb3d2ZWxkLmZ0bGxhdW5jaGVybGl0ZSJd
Bit Defender Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5iaXRkZWZlbmRlci5zZWN1cml0eSJd
Lookout Security - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sb29rb3V0Il0.
Juice Defender Free - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sYXRlZHJvaWQuanVpY2VkZWZlbmRlciJd
Titanium Backup (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXAiXQ..
Sysctl Config (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuc3lzY3RsLmNvbmZpZyJd
Super User (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ub3NodWZvdS5hbmRyb2lkLnN1Il0.
NoFrills CPU (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsIml0LnNpbmVvLmFuZHJvaWQubm9GcmlsbHNDUFUiXQ..
SetCPU - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5taHVhbmcub3ZlcmNsb2NraW5nIl0.
BusyBox Installer (Free, May not work on device can cause root loss RESEARCH BEFORE TRYING) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuYnVzeWJveC5pbnN0YWxsZXIiXQ..
Have fun people laters.
Only helpful feedback and friendly comments no fighting on here!!
using the zeam laucher good , no lag jellybean laucher do you have ?
Speed
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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Nope Nope Nope ^__^, basically its no good as the Kernal is stock and doesnt permit overclocking.
You should really rename this thread... it has nothing to do with optimizing or speeding up the OS. It just tells you about a bunch of software you could search for on the market, and then says, "oh ya, and overclock."
Performance problem??
Peep my signature..
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
Duke_Suppenhuhn said:
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
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Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
Gamephantom said:
Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
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no ****, sherlock
And back we are
Lets get a few things updated shall we
_Ayhan_
Apex is a good launcher, bit bigger than Zeam but it works perfectly for me, no lag at all and supports themes!
szilike93 Nameless new ROMs have OC ability, with the correct kernels, as said in my 1st post, i would OC, i used OC on a different ROM and played games, didnt last long under bloon tower defense 5. ive just downloaded a new kernel pack from the dev of Nameless, selected a slight OC, but i shall be still setting max OC to 600Mhz but i will be changing the Governor to InteractiveX and I/O to deadline (Going on what worked best for DoomKernel)
Gamephantom
Yeah removing sense UI would be better off for the phone, but as far even the new "De-Sense" options still have baseline sense installed, until Cyanogenmod works fully we have to stick with it, although the devs have made the device smoother with sense, Cyanogenmod should take the crown
So any updates from me?
Well OC kernels are out and working can try them if you wish, New roms are around which are fast, no new "Super" apps to speak of, just a shame its only a single core 600Mhz, there are some apps im testing and shall report back, such as the Jellybean drivers, see if that wacks my battery using GPU rendering, hopefully not, all testing on Nameless 7.2 with 722Mhz Kernel but will be UC to 600Mhz. Hopefully battery life dont suck, Slimsense still best battery life personally for me
Later Guys!
You want to get a good battery life, just push a stock systemui that don't have battery percentage numbers. Images in stock only have 4-5 batt images, while in percentage it gives accurate %1 reading 100 batt images.
Sent from my HTC Desire C
szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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You should do as Xdroidie626 sais.
Download Nameles's ROM and enclosed within You will find 3 kernels. Choose from 2 that allow You to OC Your CPU and flash it.
I'm using the 806MHz Kernel and apart from the obvious,battery life dicreased,can't complain about it at all.
HTC should have released Desire C 806MHz capable in the first place.
Lucky noobs we are to have XDA website and Devs themselves to provide us with tools of salvation from "stock" misery
Btw... Little off-top...
@Einstein.frat
As I mentioned above I'm using Nameless ROM and hereby wish to thank Einstein.frat for his efforts and subsequent effects.
Since I'm a freshman here and my posts are still counted using only one hand I can't avail of the "Thanks" button yet but I will as soon as possible. It may take me a while but I don't post just to bump the counter...
hey guys,
I just wanted know more about the seeder entropy generator and it's function of reducing lag .
how does it help and is it actually effective on our RAM deprived X8 ?
Regards,
Ajjai.
Ajjai said:
hey guys,
I just wanted know more about the seeder entropy generator and it's function of reducing lag .
how does it help and is it actually effective on our RAM deprived X8 ?
Regards,
Ajjai.
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I'm not a developer, so I do not have any insights of how exactly this app helps our device, but from what I have gathered so far, most Android devices have a very limited random number pool from which to draw the information required to process certain types of data. I think it has something to do with encryption - the system waits until sufficient quality random data is generated in order to provide for the requirements of the apps that are running. This in turn causes lag until that amount of data is met.
What Seeder does, in essence, is simply enlarging this number pool later used for processing, eliminating the lag, and making some apps run much quicker than before. I don't know if it had a placebo effect on me, but I do think Google Maps runs much faster now that Seeder is installed. Some functions in other apps also seem more responsive.
It doesn't help the RAM you have, as far as I know. Some things just might work a bit faster. For me it was only possibly a slight improvement. For others it seemed like a completely new device, breathing in full again.
For Non-Developer you explained this good(so users can understand it,not saying that above is correct )
xWhiskey said:
I'm not a developer, so I do not have any insights of how exactly this app helps our device, but from what I have gathered so far, most Android devices have a very limited random number pool from which to draw the information required to process certain types of data. I think it has something to do with encryption - the system waits until sufficient quality random data is generated in order to provide for the requirements of the apps that are running. This in turn causes lag until that amount of data is met.
What Seeder does, in essence, is simply enlarging this number pool later used for processing, eliminating the lag, and making some apps run much quicker than before. I don't know if it had a placebo effect on me, but I do think Google Maps runs much faster now that Seeder is installed. Some functions in other apps also seem more responsive.
It doesn't help the RAM you have, as far as I know. Some things just might work a bit faster. For me it was only possibly a slight improvement. For others it seemed like a completely new device, breathing in full again.
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Well i own 2 phones, a sgs+ and a g pocket.. On the sgs+ the difference wasnt that great (there was an improvement but relatively small) but on the pocket the difference is HUGE! I mean i couldn't even play hill climb racing and now its butter smooth ) from that on I always told people to use it.. In the worst case it simply won't do anything..
8cpaiw said:
For Non-Developer you explained this good(so users can understand it,not saying that above is correct )
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Thanks It might not be completely correct, but I'm pretty sure the concept is spot on. There's a lot of information regarding the app in its respective XDA thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
... so anyone interested should check it out.
drifter94 said:
Well i own 2 phones, a sgs+ and a g pocket.. On the sgs+ the difference wasnt that great (there was an improvement but relatively small) but on the pocket the difference is HUGE! I mean i couldn't even play hill climb racing and now its butter smooth ) from that on I always told people to use it.. In the worst case it simply won't do anything..
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Yeah, exactly. It isn't a big app and it barely does anything to clog the system. And what you pointed out about the the first phone not having much use from it, and the other having a huge difference is exactly what I first mentioned. Sometimes it doesn't do anything, and at other times the results are incredible.
Nothing short of downloading the app and testing it could prove its worth for your device. To the OP - download it and see if it does something, it might be worth your while. If not, delete it and move on.
i just detect a little improvement on my X8 running MiniCM10 , still , it works !!
xWhiskey said:
I'm not a developer, so I do not have any insights of how exactly this app helps our device, but from what I have gathered so far, most Android devices have a very limited random number pool from which to draw the information required to process certain types of data. I think it has something to do with encryption - the system waits until sufficient quality random data is generated in order to provide for the requirements of the apps that are running. This in turn causes lag until that amount of data is met.
What Seeder does, in essence, is simply enlarging this number pool later used for processing, eliminating the lag, and making some apps run much quicker than before. I don't know if it had a placebo effect on me, but I do think Google Maps runs much faster now that Seeder is installed. Some functions in other apps also seem more responsive.
It doesn't help the RAM you have, as far as I know. Some things just might work a bit faster. For me it was only possibly a slight improvement. For others it seemed like a completely new device, breathing in full again.
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it doesn't help much .. but yes, It did reduce the lag a tiny bit while running apps like the music player and the album on jellyblur 4.4 ..
will give that thread a read ..
Thank you
So, which one workz very best,, either seeder or crossbreeder ?
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syahazu said:
So, which one workz very best,, either seeder or crossbreeder ?
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Have been using seeder for over 2 months now. Have to say, It works flawlessly on gingerbread.. everything is super smooth..
crossbreader seams to have a lot more features .. Will give it a try and let you know !
guys I can confirm 100% no bias, CrossBreeder works better than the Seeder.apk
why? Simple, you flash it and you're done and it has a lot of features which is minimal and convenient for our beloved x8
Eren Jaeger said:
guys I can confirm 100% no bias, CrossBreeder works better than the Seeder.apk
why? Simple, you flash it and you're done and it has a lot of features which is minimal and convenient for our beloved x8
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i agree. also, crossbreeder includes seeder, apart from tge other tweaks it offers.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
cascabel said:
i agree. also, crossbreeder includes seeder, apart from tge other tweaks it offers.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
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yeah to elaborate, CrossBreeder gives you seeder, entropy, adblock, and alot more of awesome tweaks, plus it consumes a little amount of space in the /system directory that's why it's handy, and easy to install as you can flash it directly :good:
OP , i'll give it a try
@Eren Jaeger , Thanks 4 da info mate !!
no problem
Use CrossBreeder instead seeder app. CrossBreeder use haveged instead the rngd binary in the seeder app, this is better. If you want to kill all entropy related lag, use frandom. (if your kernel have frandom module, the CrossBreeder automatically use it instead haveged).
So, the numbers of lags due the entropy pool from the the worst to the best is:
- untouched android system
- seeder app
- CrossBreeder (with built-in haveged)
- CrossBreeder (with frandom module)
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also this right here ^
pilu1978 said:
Use CrossBreeder instead seeder app. CrossBreeder use haveged instead the rngd binary in the seeder app, this is better. If you want to kill all entropy related lag, use frandom. (if your kernel have frandom module, the CrossBreeder automatically use it instead haveged).
So, the numbers of lags due the entropy pool from the the worst to the best is:
- untouched android system
- seeder app
- CrossBreeder (with built-in haveged)
- CrossBreeder (with frandom module)
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This sounds very appealing, I just installed CrossBreeder to give it a whirl.
As for the frandom module, how exactly do you apply it to work with CrossBreeder on X8? It's as if it suggests there should be one for each ROM, but apparently you can use Punchmod to use other versions. Which module did you use and how did you apply it?
EDIT: I really can't say if this is a placebo, but it seems that the GUI absolutely flies now. And clearing the dalvik cache on install apparently liberated ~35MB of space. By the looks of it, this works much better than Seeder. Many thanks for recommending this.
xWhiskey said:
As for the frandom module, how exactly do you apply it to work with CrossBreeder on X8? It's as if it suggests there should be one for each ROM, but apparently you can use Punchmod to use other versions. Which module did you use and how did you apply it?
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The frandom module is related to the kernel not the rom. If your kernel have this module, not need to do anything, CrossBreeder automatically use it. As I remember, now only alfs10 have frandom, but not sure, maybe the .32 kernel also support it. I not tested the punchmod method, so I can't say anything about this method.
pilu1978 said:
The frandom module is related to the kernel not the rom. If your kernel have this module, not need to do anything, CrossBreeder automatically use it. As I remember, now only alfs10 have frandom, but not sure, maybe the .32 kernel also support it. I not tested the punchmod method, so I can't say anything about this method.
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So, I guess the X8 stock kernel doesn't have it?
Anyway, applying the module seems to be a tad too complex for me to deal with, given that there is apparently no module compiled for the 2.6.29 kernel, and besides I don't think the difference would be that stellar in the end.
However, if anyone is interested to try the Punchmod utility to apply the module compiled for other kernels, check this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150&page=233
And plow through the next five or six pages. Both the Punchmod utility and the modules can be downloaded from there.
Please do report your findings, I'm sure everyone would be interested to hear them
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So, I guess the X8 stock kernel doesn't have it?
Anyway, applying the module seems to be a tad too complex for me to deal with, given that there is apparently no module compiled for the 2.6.29 kernel, and besides I don't think the difference would be that stellar in the end.
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Of course: the stock kernel NOT have frandom module
But compiling the frandom module is not a hard work if you have linux.
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Nishad1982 said:
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Kitkat is supposed to be 17% faster than jelly bean.
Nishad1982 said:
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Kitkat roms are mostly based on cm and aosp, so they, apart from being faster due to improvements and support for art runtime, also have a slew of features such as pattern lockscreen upto 6 x 6, album art on lockscreen, and many more..
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Let us share some real-life experiences.
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there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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You have to give away the juice for performance. That's okay. But what about multitasking on KK? Is it fast? Is it lagfree?
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willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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I don't experience any faster battery drain than on 4.1.2 official TW rom and on newer custom JB roms. Only on TW based HarshJelly i've got slightly better battery life.
Nishad1982 said:
You have to give away the juice for performance. That's okay. But what about multitasking on KK? Is it fast? Is it lagfree?
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yes its lagfree to some extent since the hardware still remains the same
willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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Well I've actually always experienced a very good battery backup with KK comparing to the old 4.1.2 stock I had, which was also very laggy.. Of course with some roms (I'm seeing it on PAC man) you will get lower battery life according to the optimization/weight of the system itself.
CBatta said:
Well I've actually always experienced a very good battery backup with KK comparing to the old 4.1.2 stock I had, which was also very laggy.. Of course with some roms (I'm seeing it on PAC man) you will get lower battery life according to the optimization/weight of the system itself.
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its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement, but yes there maybe slight variation from rom to rom as i am using beanstalk its ginving me better battery backup then other kk roms which i have earlier used
Last android version of android not mean the best.I always was changing roms.But why?Just pickup a rom which meet your needs.Even its a AOSP,you can customize it with xposed.For me, MIUI meets my needs,of course i want cpu and gpu oc on kernel for MIUI...About battery,every phone will get different results with every rom.Why? Because :
-like any battery,it become fat and this problem cant be solved by just changing rom / calibrating battery
-everyone use phone different = different tasks = different results
This is my opinion.
willi9070 said:
its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement,
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Based on my experience it's rather vice versa.
hannez_r said:
Based on my experience it's rather vice versa.
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everything is possible in this world
after all user experience matters if you have it that way its great
willi9070 said:
its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement, but yes there maybe slight variation from rom to rom as i am using beanstalk its ginving me better battery backup then other kk roms which i have earlier used
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I must say that my old 4.1.2 (ITV), the one before the december update, was very laggy/buggy and had a higher battery usage. That's a particular case of course, but it happened
CBatta said:
I must say that my old 4.1.2 (ITV), the one before the december update, was very laggy/buggy and had a higher battery usage. That's a particular case of course, but it happened
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Stock UBLPK firmware has much improved in battery performance.
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My own experienced with Carbon 4.4.3 :
Everything is smooth, performance is better than stock 4.1.2 . battery drain fast, but i always have spare battery with desktop charger so for me it's no issue..
Also i OC my GPU lil bit with novathor tweak (built in from roms) . so gaming performance significantly increase too..
For multitasking, i prefer tweaking OOM by myself to suit my needs..
Personally i'm happy with this config...
Carbon kitkat 4.4.4 by Flo008 gives awesome battery life and performance.
rajag33 said:
Carbon kitkat 4.4.4 by Flo008 gives awesome battery life and performance.
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How is multitasking? Is it good? Is it smooth?
Nishad1982 said:
How is multitasking? Is it good? Is it smooth?
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@Nishad1982 Yeah good for a bit of multitasking. But I don't understand why people worrying about multitasking in a mobile device. What they want? opening 15+ apps in the same time? I never had a need to open more than 4 or 5 apps at a time. But you really want to do heavy multitasking, then you can tweak the minfree memory values to suit your need. (lowering the minfree settings for all categories by one or two simple steps)
But always remember, we only have a device with 620+ user available ram. Good luck for your Carbon Rom experience. (BTW, a new build is released today)
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@Nishad1982 Yeah good for a bit of multitasking. But I don't understand why people worrying about multitasking in a mobile device. What they want? opening 15+ apps in the same time? I never had a need to open more than 4 or 5 apps at a time. But you really want to do heavy multitasking, then you can tweak the minfree memory values to suit your need. (lowering the minfree settings for all categories by one or two simple steps)
But always remember, we only have a device with 620+ user available ram. Good luck for your Carbon Rom experience. (BTW, a new build is released today)
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A bit of multitasking that all I need. I do not want my Dialer lag when I need to make an urgent call while doing other things like browsing.
And 620 MB is a huge RAM for a phone.
Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced
xswish said:
Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced
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Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ?
njaya95 said:
Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ��
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Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...
This Kernel is the best you can do, perhaps you can try to deactivate one or two of the big cores.
xswish said:
Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...
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I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.
Trilliard said:
This Kernel is the best you can do, perhaps you can try to deactivate one or two of the big cores.
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thanks ill try that!!
njaya95 said:
I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.
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I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!
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I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!
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Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.
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Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.
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thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?
xswish said:
thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?
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Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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I dont mind the heat as well, but it is throttling in my day to day use applications, that's what's bothering me?