hey guys,
I just wanted know more about the seeder entropy generator and it's function of reducing lag .
how does it help and is it actually effective on our RAM deprived X8 ?
Regards,
Ajjai.
Ajjai said:
hey guys,
I just wanted know more about the seeder entropy generator and it's function of reducing lag .
how does it help and is it actually effective on our RAM deprived X8 ?
Regards,
Ajjai.
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I'm not a developer, so I do not have any insights of how exactly this app helps our device, but from what I have gathered so far, most Android devices have a very limited random number pool from which to draw the information required to process certain types of data. I think it has something to do with encryption - the system waits until sufficient quality random data is generated in order to provide for the requirements of the apps that are running. This in turn causes lag until that amount of data is met.
What Seeder does, in essence, is simply enlarging this number pool later used for processing, eliminating the lag, and making some apps run much quicker than before. I don't know if it had a placebo effect on me, but I do think Google Maps runs much faster now that Seeder is installed. Some functions in other apps also seem more responsive.
It doesn't help the RAM you have, as far as I know. Some things just might work a bit faster. For me it was only possibly a slight improvement. For others it seemed like a completely new device, breathing in full again.
For Non-Developer you explained this good(so users can understand it,not saying that above is correct )
xWhiskey said:
I'm not a developer, so I do not have any insights of how exactly this app helps our device, but from what I have gathered so far, most Android devices have a very limited random number pool from which to draw the information required to process certain types of data. I think it has something to do with encryption - the system waits until sufficient quality random data is generated in order to provide for the requirements of the apps that are running. This in turn causes lag until that amount of data is met.
What Seeder does, in essence, is simply enlarging this number pool later used for processing, eliminating the lag, and making some apps run much quicker than before. I don't know if it had a placebo effect on me, but I do think Google Maps runs much faster now that Seeder is installed. Some functions in other apps also seem more responsive.
It doesn't help the RAM you have, as far as I know. Some things just might work a bit faster. For me it was only possibly a slight improvement. For others it seemed like a completely new device, breathing in full again.
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Well i own 2 phones, a sgs+ and a g pocket.. On the sgs+ the difference wasnt that great (there was an improvement but relatively small) but on the pocket the difference is HUGE! I mean i couldn't even play hill climb racing and now its butter smooth ) from that on I always told people to use it.. In the worst case it simply won't do anything..
8cpaiw said:
For Non-Developer you explained this good(so users can understand it,not saying that above is correct )
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Thanks It might not be completely correct, but I'm pretty sure the concept is spot on. There's a lot of information regarding the app in its respective XDA thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
... so anyone interested should check it out.
drifter94 said:
Well i own 2 phones, a sgs+ and a g pocket.. On the sgs+ the difference wasnt that great (there was an improvement but relatively small) but on the pocket the difference is HUGE! I mean i couldn't even play hill climb racing and now its butter smooth ) from that on I always told people to use it.. In the worst case it simply won't do anything..
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Yeah, exactly. It isn't a big app and it barely does anything to clog the system. And what you pointed out about the the first phone not having much use from it, and the other having a huge difference is exactly what I first mentioned. Sometimes it doesn't do anything, and at other times the results are incredible.
Nothing short of downloading the app and testing it could prove its worth for your device. To the OP - download it and see if it does something, it might be worth your while. If not, delete it and move on.
i just detect a little improvement on my X8 running MiniCM10 , still , it works !!
xWhiskey said:
I'm not a developer, so I do not have any insights of how exactly this app helps our device, but from what I have gathered so far, most Android devices have a very limited random number pool from which to draw the information required to process certain types of data. I think it has something to do with encryption - the system waits until sufficient quality random data is generated in order to provide for the requirements of the apps that are running. This in turn causes lag until that amount of data is met.
What Seeder does, in essence, is simply enlarging this number pool later used for processing, eliminating the lag, and making some apps run much quicker than before. I don't know if it had a placebo effect on me, but I do think Google Maps runs much faster now that Seeder is installed. Some functions in other apps also seem more responsive.
It doesn't help the RAM you have, as far as I know. Some things just might work a bit faster. For me it was only possibly a slight improvement. For others it seemed like a completely new device, breathing in full again.
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it doesn't help much .. but yes, It did reduce the lag a tiny bit while running apps like the music player and the album on jellyblur 4.4 ..
will give that thread a read ..
Thank you
So, which one workz very best,, either seeder or crossbreeder ?
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syahazu said:
So, which one workz very best,, either seeder or crossbreeder ?
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Have been using seeder for over 2 months now. Have to say, It works flawlessly on gingerbread.. everything is super smooth..
crossbreader seams to have a lot more features .. Will give it a try and let you know !
guys I can confirm 100% no bias, CrossBreeder works better than the Seeder.apk
why? Simple, you flash it and you're done and it has a lot of features which is minimal and convenient for our beloved x8
Eren Jaeger said:
guys I can confirm 100% no bias, CrossBreeder works better than the Seeder.apk
why? Simple, you flash it and you're done and it has a lot of features which is minimal and convenient for our beloved x8
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i agree. also, crossbreeder includes seeder, apart from tge other tweaks it offers.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
cascabel said:
i agree. also, crossbreeder includes seeder, apart from tge other tweaks it offers.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
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yeah to elaborate, CrossBreeder gives you seeder, entropy, adblock, and alot more of awesome tweaks, plus it consumes a little amount of space in the /system directory that's why it's handy, and easy to install as you can flash it directly :good:
OP , i'll give it a try
@Eren Jaeger , Thanks 4 da info mate !!
no problem
Use CrossBreeder instead seeder app. CrossBreeder use haveged instead the rngd binary in the seeder app, this is better. If you want to kill all entropy related lag, use frandom. (if your kernel have frandom module, the CrossBreeder automatically use it instead haveged).
So, the numbers of lags due the entropy pool from the the worst to the best is:
- untouched android system
- seeder app
- CrossBreeder (with built-in haveged)
- CrossBreeder (with frandom module)
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also this right here ^
pilu1978 said:
Use CrossBreeder instead seeder app. CrossBreeder use haveged instead the rngd binary in the seeder app, this is better. If you want to kill all entropy related lag, use frandom. (if your kernel have frandom module, the CrossBreeder automatically use it instead haveged).
So, the numbers of lags due the entropy pool from the the worst to the best is:
- untouched android system
- seeder app
- CrossBreeder (with built-in haveged)
- CrossBreeder (with frandom module)
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This sounds very appealing, I just installed CrossBreeder to give it a whirl.
As for the frandom module, how exactly do you apply it to work with CrossBreeder on X8? It's as if it suggests there should be one for each ROM, but apparently you can use Punchmod to use other versions. Which module did you use and how did you apply it?
EDIT: I really can't say if this is a placebo, but it seems that the GUI absolutely flies now. And clearing the dalvik cache on install apparently liberated ~35MB of space. By the looks of it, this works much better than Seeder. Many thanks for recommending this.
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As for the frandom module, how exactly do you apply it to work with CrossBreeder on X8? It's as if it suggests there should be one for each ROM, but apparently you can use Punchmod to use other versions. Which module did you use and how did you apply it?
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The frandom module is related to the kernel not the rom. If your kernel have this module, not need to do anything, CrossBreeder automatically use it. As I remember, now only alfs10 have frandom, but not sure, maybe the .32 kernel also support it. I not tested the punchmod method, so I can't say anything about this method.
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The frandom module is related to the kernel not the rom. If your kernel have this module, not need to do anything, CrossBreeder automatically use it. As I remember, now only alfs10 have frandom, but not sure, maybe the .32 kernel also support it. I not tested the punchmod method, so I can't say anything about this method.
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So, I guess the X8 stock kernel doesn't have it?
Anyway, applying the module seems to be a tad too complex for me to deal with, given that there is apparently no module compiled for the 2.6.29 kernel, and besides I don't think the difference would be that stellar in the end.
However, if anyone is interested to try the Punchmod utility to apply the module compiled for other kernels, check this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150&page=233
And plow through the next five or six pages. Both the Punchmod utility and the modules can be downloaded from there.
Please do report your findings, I'm sure everyone would be interested to hear them
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So, I guess the X8 stock kernel doesn't have it?
Anyway, applying the module seems to be a tad too complex for me to deal with, given that there is apparently no module compiled for the 2.6.29 kernel, and besides I don't think the difference would be that stellar in the end.
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Of course: the stock kernel NOT have frandom module
But compiling the frandom module is not a hard work if you have linux.
Related
Hi.
Anyone tried to improve performance like on the SGS in changeing filesystem?
Also is the hw acceleration possible, adding a line in the biuld.prop file to enable gpu in scrolling etc?
I must say that my lg p500 on cyanogen7 is much snappier, and milestone can be choppy sometimes. I feel also that qualcomm processors have better performance in the system than milestone's TI. Omap.
I know that p500 has more ram, but I feel like someting is wrong in the milestone that slows down a bit. I know that hvga is more than 2x less pixels than wvga, but still, maybe some hacks will help. Lagfix and HW acceleration helps on many android phones from lg, samsung etc.
HW acceleration is enabled by default.
My Milestone is actually very smooooooooooooth..... and snappy!
Yes, unbearable without SuperCharging it, but effing awesome with SuperCharging
zeppelinrox said:
My Milestone is actually very smooooooooooooth..... and snappy!
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Interesting What ROM did you use? and What overclock frequency?
At the moment CM7 at 1100mhz.
But come to think of it, I don't think I need 1100mhz anymore lol
I'm often "underclocking" it to 800mhz without really noticing too much difference.
But the main thing is, any ROM would fly with supercharging
Go on, ask him wat supercharging is!
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LOL it's in my sig
You Canadians are funny
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zeppelinrox said:
LOL it's in my sig
You Canadians are funny
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Us Canadians are awesome! Hehe
Did you see that CM7 final release is out for Milestone? He said he tweaked the memory a bit.
ya I looked.
It looks alot like my v5 gscript in that he put the launcher in it's own spot with priority 2 and same kill threshold.
I put it in the second slot but he put it in the 3rd slot.
He also pushed the big chunk of apps (secondary server) down the list to the 5th slot from the 4th whereas I had moved them up from the 4th to the 3rd.
But he increased the memory limit so that chunk of apps actually start getting killed at 24 mb!
Previously, those apps weren't getting killed until ram got down to 16mb so it's actually a very big change.
So by default, it may actually behave like my Balanced 1 v5 gscript. heh.
The difference is the Heavy Weight App. We both have it in the 4th slot but in CM7 Heavy Weight App is more protected and has more priority than secondary server (the big chunk of apps) whereas I have secondary servers as being more important.
I want to see what apps fall in that heavy weight category before my update
Will the fact that apps get killed at 24MB now instead of 16MB affect the way that you can now bulletproof two apps in this recent update? Because he warns that it is RAM intensive, but what does it do to the apps in the other slots?
It just means if you're bulletproofing an app, another app that you're not paying attention to will get killed instead of the one you want to keep running. But it would bounce back anyway and something else would get killed.
They just play musical chairs and take turns updating once in awhile.
btw, I adjusted the minfree on my phone and gave heavy weight it's own slot but there is no apps in that spot at all
I run stuff and let it sit and keep refreshing but I never see a heavyweight.
Braidonh said:
Go on, ask him wat supercharging is!
Sent from my Milestone
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You are right! What on earth is SuperCharging???
I googled throug XDA and i cant find a clear meaning of SuperCharging
Yea, supercharge tweaks are great. So maybe changeing the filesystem? Some people said that it wont do any boost, but maybe its worth trying.
I disabled dsi bug workaround and phone is flying on adw ex. I definitely need supercharge script as phone lags sometimes in different apps after some time.
And swap would be nice on our stones, but nobody knows how to do it by kernel module.
Try the super test script on page 38 of my thread.
My next update will be based on that with different minfree values
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Hey there people!
Ok so the HTC Desire C seems to be a non supported device on here there are currently no ROMs for it and even the root/ulbl is not fully tested so devs with HTC experience get here to give this device what it needs!
Anyways the device runs on a 600Mhz processor running a long side 512MB RAM supporting Android 4.0.3 ICS, due to the specs the device can be a little sluggish under high operation situations so here are a few basic tips to help.
Install Zeam Launcher.
A small size launcher that is lightning fast, only thing that rivals it is the FTL launcher and looks like sense 4 launcher.
The launcher size is 338k (Google play size) very fast and minimal looking.
FTL follows the trend but size varies on ur device
Bit-Defender.
This is a tiny anti-malware suite, for full features needs payment, but for free it gives nice protection. and i use the desktop versions so yeah
if you prefer the finding ur device more so i suggest lookout due to free scream/locate and no it does not drain battery life!
Juice Defender.
I listen to music a lot when am out, my old X10 did well with an extended battery and Juice defender installed, so i say add it into the desire C, it actually saves battery and manages ur mobile data/wifi automatically.
(After root)
Install Titanium Backup.
This app is a god send, it can remove files embedded into the /system/app folder, so u can remove crappy HTC Sense launcher, also remove other bloatware and rubbish do be careful tho Rooting does void warrenty and removing apps can stop the device from working (WE NEED A RECOVERY!!)
Sysctl Config
I use this on my X10 for gaming, it provides a bit of a boost to performance not much but its there
(you must have busy box to run this, recommended to have latest superuser installed from Google play)
a scripting program - edit scripts (Advanced users/devs only)
This is what makes roms so dam fast over stock, devs have edited the files to increase VM Heaps and other stuff, if your a noob or no scripting skills dont attempt it wait for a pro to do it for you!
Try overclocking. (Advanced Users/Devs)
I dont know much about HTC kernels im a DoomKernel user for the X10, but he got the kernel another 200Mhz on a single core!
Idk if HTC have left any overclock on the kernel and i dont wanna damage my phone testing it as i got it 3 days ago, so feedback please!
Overclocking is one of the most obvious choices for speed, at the cost of battery life you can put the CPU past its standard levels, speeding up your device.
Personally i dont overclock past what doom set my kernel, if you wish to do it personally use NoFrills CPU (Free) or SetCPU (Paid) both need Root
Ok rant over! most of this stuff may not be yet possible on the device but i hope it does, its a nice little device cheap and cheerful! devs come and unlock the potential it has forget One X n S3 they got there stuff
Disclaimer
I Will Not Be Held Responsible For Any Damages In Any Area Or Spec Of Your Device(s) You Do It Your Fault No One Elses! Nor Mine Or The Devs.
Apps shown in description....
Zeam Launcher (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.zeam&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
FTL Launcher Lite (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sb3d2ZWxkLmZ0bGxhdW5jaGVybGl0ZSJd
Bit Defender Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5iaXRkZWZlbmRlci5zZWN1cml0eSJd
Lookout Security - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sb29rb3V0Il0.
Juice Defender Free - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sYXRlZHJvaWQuanVpY2VkZWZlbmRlciJd
Titanium Backup (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXAiXQ..
Sysctl Config (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuc3lzY3RsLmNvbmZpZyJd
Super User (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ub3NodWZvdS5hbmRyb2lkLnN1Il0.
NoFrills CPU (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsIml0LnNpbmVvLmFuZHJvaWQubm9GcmlsbHNDUFUiXQ..
SetCPU - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5taHVhbmcub3ZlcmNsb2NraW5nIl0.
BusyBox Installer (Free, May not work on device can cause root loss RESEARCH BEFORE TRYING) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuYnVzeWJveC5pbnN0YWxsZXIiXQ..
Have fun people laters.
Only helpful feedback and friendly comments no fighting on here!!
using the zeam laucher good , no lag jellybean laucher do you have ?
Speed
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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Nope Nope Nope ^__^, basically its no good as the Kernal is stock and doesnt permit overclocking.
You should really rename this thread... it has nothing to do with optimizing or speeding up the OS. It just tells you about a bunch of software you could search for on the market, and then says, "oh ya, and overclock."
Performance problem??
Peep my signature..
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
Duke_Suppenhuhn said:
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
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Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
Gamephantom said:
Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
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no ****, sherlock
And back we are
Lets get a few things updated shall we
_Ayhan_
Apex is a good launcher, bit bigger than Zeam but it works perfectly for me, no lag at all and supports themes!
szilike93 Nameless new ROMs have OC ability, with the correct kernels, as said in my 1st post, i would OC, i used OC on a different ROM and played games, didnt last long under bloon tower defense 5. ive just downloaded a new kernel pack from the dev of Nameless, selected a slight OC, but i shall be still setting max OC to 600Mhz but i will be changing the Governor to InteractiveX and I/O to deadline (Going on what worked best for DoomKernel)
Gamephantom
Yeah removing sense UI would be better off for the phone, but as far even the new "De-Sense" options still have baseline sense installed, until Cyanogenmod works fully we have to stick with it, although the devs have made the device smoother with sense, Cyanogenmod should take the crown
So any updates from me?
Well OC kernels are out and working can try them if you wish, New roms are around which are fast, no new "Super" apps to speak of, just a shame its only a single core 600Mhz, there are some apps im testing and shall report back, such as the Jellybean drivers, see if that wacks my battery using GPU rendering, hopefully not, all testing on Nameless 7.2 with 722Mhz Kernel but will be UC to 600Mhz. Hopefully battery life dont suck, Slimsense still best battery life personally for me
Later Guys!
You want to get a good battery life, just push a stock systemui that don't have battery percentage numbers. Images in stock only have 4-5 batt images, while in percentage it gives accurate %1 reading 100 batt images.
Sent from my HTC Desire C
szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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You should do as Xdroidie626 sais.
Download Nameles's ROM and enclosed within You will find 3 kernels. Choose from 2 that allow You to OC Your CPU and flash it.
I'm using the 806MHz Kernel and apart from the obvious,battery life dicreased,can't complain about it at all.
HTC should have released Desire C 806MHz capable in the first place.
Lucky noobs we are to have XDA website and Devs themselves to provide us with tools of salvation from "stock" misery
Btw... Little off-top...
@Einstein.frat
As I mentioned above I'm using Nameless ROM and hereby wish to thank Einstein.frat for his efforts and subsequent effects.
Since I'm a freshman here and my posts are still counted using only one hand I can't avail of the "Thanks" button yet but I will as soon as possible. It may take me a while but I don't post just to bump the counter...
Anyone used this app? Some users reported to have significant lag reduction when starting apps but in my case my O2X was already snappy so the difference is not night and day with this app running but it might have improved a little. I am still on stock GB (Spica's V20q rebuild) + Gueste Kernel 2.2.1 HOC SC
You can refer to the original thread for more information and get the APK : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032&nocache=1
Please share your results here! (mention your ROM / Kernel)...
I tried it and it should be working, but I don't seem to see any dramatic improvement.
Sure, there is a bit of improvement but it might be subtle or just placebo.
I'm running the CM10 on new bootloader btw.
arcee said its a placebo in his gplus
lopiop said:
arcee said its a placebo in his gplus
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Well, that explains why I still lag out in Beach Buggy Blitz, and why that's no noticeable difference on my phone.
Ricardo Cerqueira said that it doesn't work, look at his post in G+: https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
Saw RC's comment about it before even knowing it existed, still tried it and might have experienced a very small difference which I still don't kown if it's just placebo or some part of the script which somehow speed things up a little.
This following discussion is pretty interesting though:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42265#c114
I tried and I can see some difference, opening times are different, not instant opening, but better. Placebo? Placebo effect is documented to function... Anyway, still discussion goes ahead, and something new still comes out.
gramaglia said:
I tried and I can see some difference, opening times are different, not instant opening, but better. Placebo? Placebo effect is documented to function... Anyway, still discussion goes ahead, and something new still comes out.
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arcee said it has something to do with maintaining higher cpu frequencies, thus making apps launch quicker
It works great on my one. One word that is satisfied.
Sent from my LG-P500 using Tapatalk 2
lopiop said:
arcee said it has something to do with maintaining higher cpu frequencies, thus making apps launch quicker
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i was thinking about it, so i changed minimum frequency to 1000mhz instead of 216 or 312 mhz. It's definitely snappier when i unlock the phone and start using it. but switching between apps, is still faster w/ seeder on.
Hey XDA-ers!
BCVictory here! (Call me Bailey, my real name, if you want)
Ever since our beloved Nexus 7 came out there has been claims of people having problems with lag.
Especially since 4.2, the claim has gotten even more traction and it's more of an issue.
I'm here with some things you can do that may help fix/stop the lag.
But first, what is lag?
Lag is: Fall behind in movement, progress, or development; not keep pace with another or others.
So in Android the definition of that could mean: Falling behind in frame rate, not keeping up with or detecting your finger and not 'buttery' or 'smooth' (microstutters)
So now we know what lag is here is a few ways that people claim it stops/reduces the lag.
THIS ALL COULD BE PLACEBO!
ANDROID SETTINGS
Go into Settings
Under the System heading, go into 'About Tablet'
Tap 7 times on the Build Number
You should see Developer Options appear
In Developer Options
Turn these options on:
Disable HW Overlays
Force GPU Rendering
And change these options to either off or 0.5x
Window Animation Scale
Transition Animation Scale
Animator Duration Scale
APPS
Seeder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en
This app claims to:
Assist the kernel in "topping off" the entropy pool by re-seeding it with data from the non-blocking (high performance) random device. Optionally, it can also help alleviate MMC I/O contention by extending the I/O queue, allowing the I/O scheduler to make better decisions, and combine more writes.
On some devices, applications load significantly faster (particularly large ones like Facebook, Chrome, and Youtube), and task switching becomes effortless. Fewer visual "hiccups" occur.
Alot of the media and devs have said this app does not work but it does make this note:
This app does not increase raw performance, but rather eliminates some types of annoying lag (ie. applications briefly freezing, jerky scrolling, delays returning to the home screen, etc).
LagFix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
LagFix is a user-friendly implementation of fstrim utility. It allows you to select which partitions to trim (you should leave defaults unless you know what you are doing) and run the process easily.
Forever Gone
This app will fill your SD Card with many blank files(*.blank), then delete all of the *.blank files.
One of the main 'fixes' people say to fix the N7 lag is to delete some files to make sure the storage has at least 2GB's free.
This app has helped fix lag that relates to this problem without having to delete those files.
Greenify
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
Greenify help you identify and put the bad behaving apps into hibernation when you are not using them, stop them from lagging and battery leeching, in an unique way!
This app helps reduce the amount of rouge apps in the background and save RAM. It's not like a normal Task Manager, It does it automatically.
Pimp My Rom
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androguide.pimpmyrom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
Pimp My Rom is an app that will allow you to choose between a plethora of tweaks, mods, hacks, features and apps to modify and improve your current rom. Pimp My Rom gives you alot of options to enable speed and battery saving tweaks therefore theoretically reducing lag.
FLASHABLE MODS / INIT.D SCRIPTS
Crossbreeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
This is a new take at Android lag reduction. It's lightweight and won't consume battery. Users have reported drastic improvements in usability and even benchmark scores. It will show noticeable improvements on all Android devices from Donut to Froyo to Gingerbread to Honeycomb to ICS and Jellybean.
This is a combination of 5 different methodologies to reduce Android lag.
1. Removal of DNS lag
2. Change wakeup threshold kernel parameters so read blocks are released instantly and writes never wake up as we have an external entropy generator.
3. Modulate OS entropy levels for lag reduction. (Just like Seeder)
4. Remove /dev/random as it's blocking
5. Frandom support
Mitsuyoshi EXT4 Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280496
This removes the journal from all EXT4 partitions. This gives (on average) a 25% increase in system speed (due to the increased I/O rate)
V6 Supercharger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
This claims to: Makes your phone/tablet FAST... super snappy with better multitasking! It rearranges and fixes the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values. So basically, it's a COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX! NO LAUNCHER REDRAWS, faster than ever, multitasking is better... why? Because it works with the lowmemorykiller and letting it work the way it's meant to work.
Jay's Recipe for Buttery Goodness
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1946347
The script remounts /data and /cache with discard and noauto_da_alloc, disables fsync, enables a 128mb zRAM and set-ups a good, stable starting point for further modification. The result is a stable, considerably smoother multitasking powerhouse with overall better power management and performance.
INSTALL/CHANGE KERNEL - OVERCLOCKING
If you are running stock kernel or another kernel, it might be a good idea to try a new one.
One of these benefits is to overclock the CPU and/or GPU.
For my guide to the 'best' kernels for the Nexus 7 click here: N7 'Best' Kernel? (Performance & Battery Tests)
CHANGE LAUNCHER
If your launcher is the only thing that is lagging you might want to change it. There is a guide to the smoothest launchers at this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899350
CHANGE ROM
If none of these tweaks aren't working or aren't enough for you, one of the last options is to change your ROM. There are lots of options out there so have a look around the Android Development and Original Development sections.
My personal favourites are Paranoid Android, P.A.C- Man, RasbeanJelly & SaberMod.
DOWNGRADE TO 4.1.x
If all of the above is not working try some of the older roms that use 4.1.x as their base.
WIPE EVERYTHING AND START FRESH
If absolutely nothing above works then it might be best to wipe everything and install a clean rom.
If any of these steps worked or didn't work for you, please vote in the poll above and also post below what did so you can help others.
If you find anything that helps or doesn't help reduce lag, please post it below.
If you found this helpful, give this post a thanks and give the people who made these tweaks a thanks too.
Reserved.
Sitting back and waiting....
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Great guide, I'm gonna try and use jays butter and cross breeder for now!
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Thanks for the comprehensive guide!
Can't say I've seen any lag on my N7. Maybe something in this mix would actually increase the performance of my N7?
I'll have to sit back and wait for any recommendations that might improve performance. But thankfully, no lag here.
This is pretty frikkin detailed. Good job.
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Would this work on other devices?
CuttyCZ said:
Would this work on other devices?
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Somethings will, if it is device specific, it depends what device you have
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In Developer Options
Turn these options on:
Force 4x MSAA
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What? :laugh:
You realize what MSAA is right? this will greatly reduce your frame rate while gaming.
darkchazz said:
What? :laugh:
You realize what MSAA is right? this will greatly reduce your frame rate while gaming.
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I will remove that
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Fixed
How about minimizing the number of apps that you have that run in the background and limit the number of widgets you have.
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What? :laugh:
You realize what MSAA is right? this will greatly reduce your frame rate while gaming.
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Either way it doesn't stick after reboot
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Greenify does the same like iOS does.
the only time i experience lag is after installing from the play store. any recommendations on how to fix this?
bobprobert said:
the only time i experience lag is after installing from the play store. any recommendations on how to fix this?
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I've always had that lag, I've never found a solution other than waiting a few seconds for it to settle.
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bobprobert said:
the only time i experience lag is after installing from the play store. any recommendations on how to fix this?
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Because the tegra 3 has low(ish) i/o
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Anyone use more than just one of the apps listed at same time?
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What about formatting file system to F2FS ?
F2FS has given me a new tablet.
I found a lot of build.prop and init.d tweaks which were supposedly generic .
I tested a few build.prop and init.d tweaks with XZ ,but i'm confused about these two init.d tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172673
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353903
OP says it can be used for any device but when i read through the scripts they seemed specific to only certain devices.
Can anyone clear this up...
venky716 said:
OP says it can be used for any device but when i read through the scripts they seemed specific to only certain devices.
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Some work on some devices but not on others, pretty much trial and error these days.
XperienceD said:
Some work on some devices but not on others, pretty much trial and error these days.
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Oh ok.
Then could u suggest me a tweak like loopy or cosmic for XZ?
I've applied pretty much all the basic build.prop and init.d tweaks looking for something to speed up my XZ a bit more.
PS: I see all these tweaks in phone specific forums, why isn't anyone doing it for XZ
I just looked briefly through those mods and for me most of them are just placebo's. Since ICS most of the build.prop tweaks are just placebo's that will either work or not work depending how Android is compiled. And if they 'work' most of them just doesn't do anything. For instance, there was build.prop tweak in there to enable 3G or HSPA, but those are already enabled by default. This build.prop tweak will only show the difference between those speeds with a notification bar icon. Also the wifi tweaks can break a stable connection to your ap.
Just remmeber this; if a tweak is that good and stable enough, why wouldn't a developer at Sony or another company implement it in the stock rom? Do you think they want to only screw with you and your device? Making it slower on purpose? And why didn't CM include those tweaks? Because it's just a placebo. Both of them will (try) release the most stable and fast solution there is and not screw with you or your phone.
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I just looked briefly through those mods and for me most of them are just placebo's. Since ICS most of the build.prop tweaks are just placebo's that will either work or not work depending how Android is compiled. And if they 'work' most of them just doesn't do anything. For instance, there was build.prop tweak in there to enable 3G or HSPA, but those are already enabled by default. This build.prop tweak will only show the difference between those speeds with a notification bar icon. Also the wifi tweaks can break a stable connection to your ap.
Just remmeber this; if a tweak is that good and stable enough, why wouldn't a developer at Sony or another company implement it in the stock rom? Do you think they want to only screw with you and your device? Making it slower on purpose? And why didn't CM include those tweaks? Because it's just a placebo. Both of them will (try) release the most stable and fast solution there is and not screw with you or your phone.
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Ya i had that feeling too that's y i went through a lot of threads about these tweaks before implementing them, but i have to say few of them did work wonders and increased smoothness and battery life. Like these:
Build.prop-
pm.sleep_mode=1
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
debug.performance.tuning=1
video.accelerate.hw=1
Thats y i'm not skeptical anymore and want to squeeze out how much ever i can out of XZ. So i ask if anyone knows any good tweaks compatible with XZ?
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Ya i had that feeling too that's y i went through a lot of threads about these tweaks before implementing them, but i have to say few of them did work wonders and increased smoothness and battery life. Like these:
Build.prop-
pm.sleep_mode=1
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
debug.performance.tuning=1
video.accelerate.hw=1
Thats y i'm not skeptical anymore and want to squeeze out how much ever i can out of XZ. So i ask if anyone knows any good tweaks compatible with XZ?
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can please elaborate what does each do?
i found this small tweaks here for the Z, not sure how much better did it work though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237066&highlight=buildprop
adamtan said:
can please elaborate what does each do?
i found this small tweaks here for the Z, not sure how much better did it work though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237066&highlight=buildprop
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Thanks I've added those to build.prop already
pm.sleep_mode=1 - enables deep sleep when idle
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0 - switches off the cpu cores when idle,there are 4 other modes (1,2,3,4,5) each has different ways to switch off the cores 0 is the most battery friendly as it does it asap.
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1- locks launcher in memory
debug.performance.tuning=1 - improves touch responsiveness
video.accelerate.hw=1- smooth video playback
there are a lots more http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29627835
This is an excellent resource for build.prop tweaks that debunks almost all the myths regarding the tweaks people put in them: http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-for-android-ics-a-comprehensive-guide-part-1/ and http://www.jeffmixon.com/examining-build-prop-tweaks-android-ics-comprehensive-guide-part-2/.
venky716 said:
Thanks I've added those to build.prop already
pm.sleep_mode=1 - enables deep sleep when idle
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0 - switches off the cpu cores when idle,there are 4 other modes (1,2,3,4,5) each has different ways to switch off the cores 0 is the most battery friendly as it does it asap.
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1- locks launcher in memory
debug.performance.tuning=1 - improves touch responsiveness
video.accelerate.hw=1- smooth video playback
there are a lots more http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29627835
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Sorry but you're pretty much wrong on everyone of those..
Pm sleep mode hadn't worked since gingerbread
Ril is radio interface layer. That hack was supposed to enable a low power mode for radio. It never worked.
Home app was discontinued in ics
Debug the modern version is already in build prop
As is video accelerate
So they are just placebo
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fards said:
Sorry but you're pretty much wrong on everyone of those..
Pm sleep mode hadn't worked since gingerbread
Ril is radio interface layer. That hack was supposed to enable a low power mode for radio. It never worked.
Home app was discontinued in ics
Debug the modern version is already in build prop
As is video accelerate
So they are just placebo
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I've already come across those articles when i was searching around, after reading through a lot of such blogs i went ahead and decided to test the tweaks.
Placebo or whatever it may be i did see a difference and most importantly they didn't seem to cause any problems so whats the harm.
I have to mention one thing though, as i found a lot of articles against the working of build.prop tweaks i couldn't manage to find anything against init.d ones so does that mean those tweaks work ?
No. Just because they are in a different place doesn't mean they are going to work.. This is not magic... this isn't apple...
We have source code it's very easy to find out what could and couldn't work...
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venky716 said:
I've already come across those articles when i was searching around, after reading through a lot of such blogs i went ahead and decided to test the tweaks.
Placebo or whatever it may be i did see a difference and most importantly they didn't seem to cause any problems so whats the harm.
I have to mention one thing though, as i found a lot of articles against the working of build.prop tweaks i couldn't manage to find anything against init.d ones so does that mean those tweaks work ?
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Let me sell you my range of magic butterfly badges, artfully curved and imbued with all manner of secrets unknown to most.
people swear they make a difference, others don't see anything, but hey they don't hurt(unless of course you stab yourself in frustration with them repeatedly, after prolonged exposure to the sheer stupidity exhibited by most of the human race).
I'm calling them plah_sae_bows.
If there is *no code* to do respond to these calls you are putting in , then they can't make any difference.
Do you know a few years ago some of us made some of these up?
Completely fictitious and people still insisted that made a difference?
ro.bollocks.enable.large =true
That one really make your device go into 'hero mode' a hitherto undocumented mode that increases speed. Saves lives and give you wings ..
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Guys question, how to add that to build.prop? any threads on how to's?