[Q] google search hotword differences - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have a HTC One, and my girlfriend has a HTC One X. Our google search hotwords are different. Mine says "Say Okay Google" and hers says "Say Google". On top of that, mine allows for continuous searching (ie. say "okay google", search something, and repeat), whereas hers only can search once (ie. say "google", search something, then you have to press the voice button to search again. Is there supposed to be a difference ? Do certain devices contain different versions of Google Search ? If possible, can the continuous searching be activated somehow ?

xCal1bur said:
So I have a HTC One, and my girlfriend has a HTC One X. Our google search hotwords are different. Mine says "Say Okay Google" and hers says "Say Google". On top of that, mine allows for continuous searching (ie. say "okay google", search something, and repeat), whereas hers only can search once (ie. say "google", search something, then you have to press the voice button to search again. Is there supposed to be a difference ? Do certain devices contain different versions of Google Search ? If possible, can the continuous searching be activated somehow ?
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That Google Now feature ''Ok Google'' is new in android 4.4 (on your HTC One). The HTC one X is still on android 4.3 and doesn't support this feature yet.

alray said:
That Google Now feature ''Ok Google'' is new in android 4.4 (on your HTC One). The HTC one X is still on android 4.3 and doesn't support this feature yet.
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Are you sure ? I'm more talking about in the actual google search app. Not the homescreen stuff. Also, my One is running 4.3 with sense 5.5, and the One X is running 4.2.2 with sense 5. Both running stock roms. no modding at all.

xCal1bur said:
Are you sure ? I'm more talking about in the actual google search app. Not the homescreen stuff. Also, my One is running 4.3 with sense 5.5, and the One X is running 4.2.2 with sense 5. Both running stock roms. no modding at all.
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Android 4.3 under Google Search tab: ''Google''
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
You can say "Google" to activate Voice Search from within Google Search.
Android 4.4 ''Ok Google''
http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/
Just say “Ok Google”
You don’t need to touch the screen to get things done. When on your home screen* or in Google Now, just say “Ok Google” to launch voice search, send a text, get directions or even play a song.
Don't forget your region/language must be set to US to activate ''OK Google''.

alray said:
Android 4.3 under Google Search tab: ''Google''
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
You can say "Google" to activate Voice Search from within Google Search.
Android 4.4 ''Ok Google''
http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/
Just say “Ok Google”
You don’t need to touch the screen to get things done. When on your home screen* or in Google Now, just say “Ok Google” to launch voice search, send a text, get directions or even play a song.
Don't forget your region/language must be set to US to activate ''OK Google''.
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yes, i know that. but i'm running 4.3 on my One and i can say ok google to activate it.
so..
HTC One: Android 4.3 + Sense 5.5, able to say OK Google to activate, able to continue searching after each search
HTC One X: Android 4.2.2 + Sense 5, only able to say google to activate, cant say OK Google, only able to do once, not after a search
also..
Transformer Infinity: CM 10.2 (Android 4.3.1), only able to say google to activate, cant say OK Google, only able to do once, not after a search
so with the range of devices i have access to, i'm only able to use OK Google hotword for one of the devices. And with that device, i'm able to use the hotword again to search again while in the results of another search. the other two devices can only use the hotword from the initial google search screen.
what i really want to know is why i cant do continuous searches like i can from my HTC One.

Because they don't support it...yet
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[q] Google Now and Google based roms

I really enjoy stock, and am on Pacman ROM right now, I've tried CyanogenMod and a few others and feel like I missing out on something.
My question is, is there anyway to make it so I don't have to use the Google now launcher to see the google now swipe left screen, or use The "OK Google" voice search function?
Ihmaiw2d said:
I really enjoy stock, and am on Pacman ROM right now, I've tried CyanogenMod and a few others and feel like I missing out on something.
My question is, is there anyway to make it so I don't have to use the Google now launcher to see the google now swipe left screen, or use The "OK Google" voice search function?
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Just get a new launcher. Give apex a try
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Android Lollipop taking advantage of DSP

So from what i can tell phones using DSP chips will be able to use ok google now from stock android. Our Moto X's do use that for the Motorola assist features. Does this mean that android lollipop could help go around moto assist? I don't like the delays that Moto assist comes with, and getting to use Google now through stock would be amazing. They only mention that Nexus 6 and 9, will be able to use it, but i don't see why our phone wouldn't be able to.
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
raze599 said:
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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Yes, assist can be disabled. The problem is because assist and the files for it are installed, it disables one from saying "ok, google" and letting google now take over. Assist needs to be on if you want to do voice related things. Unless I'm missing something, I haven't found a way to allow google now voice commands to work with assist on or off
sent from my Moto X (2014)
If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
MaKTaiL said:
If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
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ZeroAlphawolf said:
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
sent from my Nexus 7
0.0 said:
Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
sent from my Nexus 7
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I know that on the 2013 X this did not work. There is an internal, hidden config flag in Google Search that lists the devices on which hotword detection is permanently disabled -- meaning that nothing you did to to moto touchless controls would help.
That being said, there is an app out there, UnleashTheGoogle, that will un-hide all of the hidden settings in Google Search and then you can just remove your phone from the blacklist (if the '14 X is in there)
So after the recent Moto Voice update, i can't get the Google Now hot word Detection to work at all. Going into Google Settings to try to train it to listen to me, it won't activate the mic at all to listen to me, completely refuses too. Plus, to top it off, Moto Voice now says "Opening Google" Whenever it is too retarded to be able to do what i want it to with my voice, which is ridiculous. I Force closed Moto Voice, and the google now search bar had the mic showing that it was ready for voice. (The filled in one.) but did not respond to Ok Google, and by the time i went to train it, Moto Voice had restarted. I might try freezing Moto Voice with Titanium and seeing if i can get google now to work then. All in all, this is disappointing as it stands.
Ok! So Freezing the Moto Voice app did it for me. (That or yelling ok google at my phone for 5-10 minutes in the training voice part of Google Now Voice Settings.) Regardless i can activate Ok Google again from any screen. Though, my Google Now Settings includes the check box for google searching from the Lock Screen, it doesn't seem to work. That might come with Lollipop proper... -crosses fingers.
Edit: It will allow it to Google Search from lockscreen , But not with sound off... that is the feature that might come with Lollipop.

[Q] Active Listening

Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
Do not think of the device as Moto X think of the device as nexus...aka PURE AND COMPLETE stock android. So anything you love about the MOto X odd of you finding it on N6 (unless n6) has it own version, you wont see it.
Hope that answer your question
Aw that's a bummer. There are some Moto apps on the playstore. Hopefully they are usable on the Nexus 6.
msal said:
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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Other than the ability to set a custom listing phrase, what are the "advanced listening features"?
charesa39 said:
http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
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In regards to the texting thing. I hope they fix it to use GV number with hangouts. With the nexus 5 if I use voice commands to send a text it uses my carrier number. Same with virtually every other app that sends stuff auto via text messages,
ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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This is already available with the Google Launcher on my S4 (so long as the phone is charging). Time will tell if this is available on the Nexus 6 from idle when it's not charging.

[Q] Disable Moto Voice in favor of Google Now

Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
Tykin said:
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
cortez.i said:
it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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That will disable the voice wake. I'm looking for a way to jump straight into Google Now anytime I say my Moto Voice launch phrase.
OK, yeah that's different. Interpreted that you wanted to just go to Google Now. With my suggestion, saying "OK Google" takes you to Google Now (vs your moto launch phase).
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
cortez.i said:
can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Thanks! Now I need to figure out if I want to root my phone now or wait for L and Xposed to run on ART.
Lollipop is supposed to be able to do ok google from screen off with phones using the always listening chips. The nexus 6 and 9 are supposed to use it with theirs. I'm still hoping that our moto's well be able to use it as part of stock android so i don't have to use moto voice at all. Only i don't know if they intend to add custom phrase support, which i could stand losing. Though i concur about ART xposed, that i can't wait for.

"OK Google" detection in non-Touchwiz rom?

I'm hoping I post this into the right forum. Please forgive me if it needed to be posted somewhere else.
I'm really high on the "OK Google" detection feature. Right now I'm using the latest nightly of Cyanogenmod (which I love) but the OK Google detection is broken. Even in the Google app, saying "Ok Google" does nothing, and when I try to set it up to work from any screen, it says "Can't use the microphone. Restart device." and doesn't recognize me saying Ok Google.
Has anyone found a non-Touchwiz rom with working OK Google detection?
I would use Touchwiz, but the lagging has become unbearable.
duraaraa said:
I'm hoping I post this into the right forum. Please forgive me if it needed to be posted somewhere else.
I'm really high on the "OK Google" detection feature. Right now I'm using the latest nightly of Cyanogenmod (which I love) but the OK Google detection is broken. Even in the Google app, saying "Ok Google" does nothing, and when I try to set it up to work from any screen, it says "Can't use the microphone. Restart device." and doesn't recognize me saying Ok Google.
Has anyone found a non-Touchwiz rom with working OK Google detection?
I would use Touchwiz, but the lagging has become unbearable.
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I fixed my own problem by regressing to the older Google version in:
gapps-5.1-2015-04-20-15-56-24.zip
I was using the 5-3 google apps.

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