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[Q] I have root on 4.2.2, but no recovery and want 4.4

Hey guys, so I was on 4.4 and downgraded and managed to get my 4.2.2 rom rooted.
Now I want to upgrade to 4.4, but when I attempt to go into recovery, it just restarts into android.
I attempted to flash a recovery, but it continually failed. Maybe I am doing something wrong when attempting to flash the recovery..
Attached is what I have so far.

I take it that you didn't use the directions in the SlapMyMoto to achieve root

nhizzat said:
I take it that you didn't use the directions in the SlapMyMoto to achieve root
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Well originally I used 64 scrip to downgrade to 4.2.2 then used moto x tool kit.
I am currently unrooted on 4.2.2 right now. What is the best way to go about continuing?
when I tried using pwnmymoto it doesn't install..

derik123derik123 said:
Well originally I used 64 scrip to downgrade to 4.2.2 then used moto x tool kit.
I am currently unrooted on 4.2.2 right now. What is the best way to go about continuing?
when I tried using pwnmymoto it doesn't install..
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please follow the directions in the guide at the below link.
also is your phones bootloader unlocked?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358

dray_jr said:
please follow the directions in the guide at the below link.
also is your phones bootloader unlocked?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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I am pretty sure I am bootloader locked.
I am now on 4.4 rooted but when I attempted to flash a recovery I'd get a preflash failure.

derik123derik123 said:
I am pretty sure I am bootloader locked.
I am now on 4.4 rooted but when I attempted to flash a recovery I'd get a preflash failure.
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well that would be why you cant flash TWRP recovery. you can not flash TWRP or Clockwork on a device with a locked bootloader.
the only recovery you can use on a locked bootloader is Safestrap
which can be located here
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
good luck
but i would recommend re-flashing to stock and re-rooting your device so you don't have and issues because you tried to flash a unlocked bootloader recovery on a locked bootloader device

And if you had read, you'd know that selecting "recovery" in the bootloader actually boots Android with write protection off.
Also, this is why I don't like toolkits. Too many people jumping in head first without an inkling of understanding of what's going on with their phone.

Root for 4.4.2 GSM Developer Editiln

For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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overthatscreen said:
For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If so I am sure it will only be a matter of time before someone updates the TWRP custom recovery for a Moto X on 4.4.2.

The only way to root 4.4.2 is off your phone's bootloader is unlocked or can be unlocked.
There is no root for locked bootloader
Here is the process for unlocked bootloader
Unlock your bootloader
Install custom recovery
Flash SuperSU flashable zip
And your done
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dray_jr said:
Install custom recovery
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But can you use the version of TWRP that is for 4.4? Or has it been updated for 4.4.2? Don't the custom recoveries need to be updated for the new versions of the OS?

The same version of twrp works for 4.4 and 4.4.2.

So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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overthatscreen said:
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Yes and Yes. I also have a GSM Dev Edition with an Unlocked Bootloader and the same root method worked and the bootloader remained unlocked.

overthatscreen said:
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ?
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It is always the same if your bootloader is unlocked in that you flash custom recovery and install a superuser. The only thing that would change is if the custom recovery changes for the new version of the OS or if the super user is updated.
I just outlined it all here:
How To Root Your Unlocked Moto X Running Kit Kat
overthatscreen said:
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Going through the root process has nothing to do with unlocking your bootloader. Once unlocked, your bootloader will stay unlocked until you relock it.

Sounds good. I'll just reflash back to stock and update then root.
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Well I just got done flashing with the Moto X Restore Utility, updated to 4.4.2, flashed TWRP, and rooted.

Aw well. I was going to contribute that if you were annoyed by the 4.4.2 OTA constantly in your face: you can disable the MotorolaOTA system service.

?? What do i use to ROOT Verizon DE stock.. I am confused..

I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J

ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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PwnMyMoto and jcase's methods are for locked bootloaders. You first need to unlock your bootloader. Then you need to decide if you want to take the OTA to 4.4 or not because once you upgrade to 4.2.2 post-camera, you can never downgrade to 4.2.2 pre-camera without bricking your device.
If you want to upgrade to 4.4, here are the instructions to unlock and gain root:
[STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS] Unlocking and Rooting a Dev Ed Moto X Running Kit Kat
I have read of others who kept the 4.2.2 bootloader and other partitions and just selectively flashed those partitions they wanted as each new upgrade's sbf firmware was released. I don't know what advantages there are to doing that.

ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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It's a Developer Edition. Take all the updates available (4.2.2 camera update, 4.4 and now 4.4.2). Get the unlock code from Motorola and unlock your bootloader. Once that is done, flash twrp recovery and then install root via twrp.
Very simple on Dev Editions just because you can unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery (twrp, cwm, etc..).

I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).

KidJoe said:
I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
I didn't know there was a different TWRP for 4.2.2.
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).
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From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
Great info, thanks.
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
I did something like that for an HTC ONE i have on straight talk. I unlocked the bootloader from the HTC website, then installed TWRP, and then rooted and its running a 4.4.2 ROM that is great.

ejason said:
From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
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Incorrect. You can do whatever you want with the DE, regardless of what version of Android you're on.
Sent from my Moto X

ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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There are directions on a 1 page pamphlet that came with your VZW DE on how to unlock the bootloader.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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It is all in that step-by-step link I gave you above.

Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?

ejason said:
Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?
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did it finish flashing? mine says that when i flash a recovery also, but it flashes.
after you flash it dont reboot, just go into recovery (volume down to move the selection, volume up to execute)
then select reboot system, and it will ask if you want to root.

ejason said:
ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the twrp.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and cd into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the twrp with goo manager?
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ok, thanks for everyones hellp. Done and done..

Rooted AT&T Moto X on 4.4....how to install 4.4.2

Hey Guys,
I've got a my AT&T Moto X rooted on 4.4, but I'd like to install 4.4.2 and remain rooted.
I've got a locked bootloader, but I'm having a hard time finding the steps necessary to update the OS, and stay rooted. Can someone point me in the right direction? I've used the search feature, and found info on safestrap, and the ATT 1058.XML, but I cannot find the correct version of SafeStrap needed, and detailed instructions.
Thanks in advance!

If your bootloader is unlocked, flash the SBF of ATT's 4.4.2 (there is a thread telling you how to return to 100% stock using RSDLite), then follow the thread telling you how to root a developer edition X.

97vulcan said:
but I cannot find the correct version of SafeStrap needed
Thanks in advance!
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KidJoe said:
If your bootloader is unlocked, flash the SBF of ATT's 4.4.2 (there is a thread telling you how to return to 100% stock using RSDLite), then follow the thread telling you how to root a developer edition X.
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My Bootloader is locked...I can't find the steps to update to 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.

97vulcan said:
My Bootloader is locked...I can't find the steps to update to 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.
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There isn't much here about using Safestrap with the X.. Rootzwiki.com has a few threads.
I haven't used it, so I don't know if there is a 4.4.2 for Safestrap on ATT.
Since the Chinese website/middleman thread is back up, you can try and get a bootloader unlock code that way.

97vulcan said:
My Bootloader is locked...I can't find the steps to update to 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.
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Safestrap binary: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Upgrade from 4.4 to 4.4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-165-44-1-ghostatt-sbf-t2730956
edit: If you upgrading from 4.4, you can likely skip step 8 (wipe/factory reset).

Ctrl-Freak said:
Safestrap binary: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Upgrade from 4.4 to 4.4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-165-44-1-ghostatt-sbf-t2730956
edit: If you upgrading from 4.4, you can likely skip step 8 (wipe/factory reset).
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Thank you! I'll post results after 4.4.2 install.

Successfully installed 4.4.2, and it's working great! Thanks again!

Having some issues want to restore

I'm running 4.4 on first gen moto x. I am rooted with jcase method (back when it was script only..lol) I have a loss of battery life. I use to be able to run all day and come home with 40ish %.. I've ran a tad over 9 hours today and I'm at 18%. I have had touch screen issues off "center" for example.. If I'm googleing something and I click on first one pops up I may click on the 2nd or 3rd.. I'd I'm on Facebook and I click "like" it at click on the link.. I am thinking of fxzing my phone back to stock and erase it all. But my concern is 1. If it pulls update before I can stop it, is there a root out for it yet? 2nd, I have not had to root my 4.4 is there an easier way now?
Thanks for the help!!
Slapped my Moto

If you're on 4.4, why not use Sunshine to unlock your bootloader? That way, you don't have to worry about your first or second question.
To answer your questions:
1. It won't and even so, you have to choose to install the update.
2. TowelPieRoot.
I highly suggest you pony up the $25 to unlock your bootloader though.

I'm on Verizon..last I knew it was unlockable..
Edit: OK...nvm done a bit of research...this is awesome.. Only issue I'm having is I try to download sunshine and it basically says its corrupt.
Slapped my Moto

OK another ?. I did the su shine unlock and tried to install CM11 and bootlooped so I had to reinstall stock...trying to do root I remember I need reflash 4.2.2 and use slapmymoto etc to regain root then take 4.4 update... But I don't think its out what if I take 4.4.4 will I still have root?!
I've also seen u can use towlpieroot but once u reboot, u lose it...is there a perm solution?
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium

If you unlocked your bootloader you just flash twrp and it roots for you. Hopefully you didn't brick by flashing a lower firmware.
You can just use the Verizon fxz in the general section to update to 4.4.4 and then root with twrp. You are unlocked, no exploits or towel pie or slapping. Just root forever
Sent from my XT1060

xpsychox said:
OK another ?. I did the su shine unlock and tried to install CM11 and bootlooped so I had to reinstall stock...trying to do root I remember I need reflash 4.2.2 and use slapmymoto etc to regain root then take 4.4 update... But I don't think its out what if I take 4.4.4 will I still have root?!
I've also seen u can use towlpieroot but once u reboot, u lose it...is there a perm solution?
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium
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If sunshine properly unlocked your bootloader, you shouldn't have any issues rooting, no matter what ROM you have on your phone.
Once you unlock your bootloader, you do not need to use SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto or the like, nor do you need MotoWpNoMo.
If you get 4.4.2 or higher on your phone do NOT downgrade!!!
PIE and TowelPieRoot only work on 4.4.2, it does not work on 4.4.4. And it is only a temp root, as with a locked bootloader on 4.4.2 and up, you can't disable write protection.
IF you've used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader then, To ROOT Once you unlocked your bootloader, Download the latest TWRP Recovery from -> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/234 (under the Download-Fastboot heading) and the latest SuperSU from -> http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu or the latest CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use them while following the instructions in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738

KidJoe said:
If sunshine properly unlocked your bootloader, you shouldn't have any issues rooting, no matter what ROM you have on your phone.
Once you unlock your bootloader, you do not need to use SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto or the like, nor do you need MotoWpNoMo.
If you get 4.4.2 or higher on your phone do NOT downgrade!!!
PIE and TowelPieRoot only work on 4.4.2, it does not work on 4.4.4. And it is only a temp root, as with a locked bootloader on 4.4.2 and up, you can't disable write protection.
IF you've used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader then, To ROOT Once you unlocked your bootloader, Download the latest TWRP Recovery from -> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/234 (under the Download-Fastboot heading) and the latest SuperSU from -> http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu or the latest CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use them while following the instructions in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
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Deffinatly good to know..but kind of sucks cu now I won't have a nandroid back up..been using safestrap..lol
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium
Edit: I already ran slapmymoto and m WP is killed long ago (like 4 months ago) so it's done and gone.. I'm thinking of takeing the 4.4.4 but I want root and only temp root is what I found... unless you know of something I don't?

xpsychox said:
Deffinatly good to know..but kind of sucks cu now I won't have a nandroid back up..been using safestrap..lol
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium
Edit: I already ran slapmymoto and m WP is killed long ago (like 4 months ago) so it's done and gone.. I'm thinking of takeing the 4.4.4 but I want root and only temp root is what I found... unless you know of something I don't?
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You used MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection. If you upgrade to 4.4.2, you'll likely keep root which was provided by SlapMyMoto, but the vulnerability being exploited by MotoWpNoMo was patched, so write protection will be re-enabled.
On 4.4.2 and up, the only way to disable write protection is unlocking the bootloader.
The Vulnerabilities used to gain root via SlapMyMoto on 4.4, and Pie, TowelPieRoot on 4.4.2 are patched in 4.4.4, and there is no root on 4.4.4 unless you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery to root.
That being said. If you have NEVER upgraded to 4.4.4, you could try Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. Its $25, but it checks if your phone is compatible before it charges you. This thread discusses it -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471
And in case you missed the many posts/threads... Once on 4.4.2 or up, DO NOT DOWNGRADE or attempt to downgrade!!!! You will end up with a Brick!! (So this means if you have 4.4.4, you can't downgrade to 4.4.2 or 4.4 to try and use the older exploits/processes.)

that's actually what i did.. lol, thanks though.