For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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overthatscreen said:
For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If so I am sure it will only be a matter of time before someone updates the TWRP custom recovery for a Moto X on 4.4.2.
The only way to root 4.4.2 is off your phone's bootloader is unlocked or can be unlocked.
There is no root for locked bootloader
Here is the process for unlocked bootloader
Unlock your bootloader
Install custom recovery
Flash SuperSU flashable zip
And your done
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dray_jr said:
Install custom recovery
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But can you use the version of TWRP that is for 4.4? Or has it been updated for 4.4.2? Don't the custom recoveries need to be updated for the new versions of the OS?
The same version of twrp works for 4.4 and 4.4.2.
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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overthatscreen said:
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Yes and Yes. I also have a GSM Dev Edition with an Unlocked Bootloader and the same root method worked and the bootloader remained unlocked.
overthatscreen said:
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ?
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It is always the same if your bootloader is unlocked in that you flash custom recovery and install a superuser. The only thing that would change is if the custom recovery changes for the new version of the OS or if the super user is updated.
I just outlined it all here:
How To Root Your Unlocked Moto X Running Kit Kat
overthatscreen said:
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Going through the root process has nothing to do with unlocking your bootloader. Once unlocked, your bootloader will stay unlocked until you relock it.
Sounds good. I'll just reflash back to stock and update then root.
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Well I just got done flashing with the Moto X Restore Utility, updated to 4.4.2, flashed TWRP, and rooted.
Aw well. I was going to contribute that if you were annoyed by the 4.4.2 OTA constantly in your face: you can disable the MotorolaOTA system service.
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Is there any current root methods for the 4.4 OTA update for the MotoX?
Any and all answers will be appreciated!
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
mastermind278 said:
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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Thanks!
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bladeofdarkness said:
Is there any current root methods for the 4.4 OTA update for the MotoX?
Any and all answers will be appreciated!
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First you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 (camera update) via RSD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515&highlight=rsdlite
Then Either:
A. Follow All Steps in SlapMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896 (which ends with 4.4 rooted)
OR
B. Do RockMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590 (which leaves you with 4.2.2 camera update rooted)
Install Safestrap - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Then, Install the 4.4 ROM via Safestrap (plus remember to manually flash 4.4 kernel and radio) - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/
I did the latter, but I think the more mainstream path seems to be the SlapMyMoto method....
up to you...
on OTA 4.4
so is everyone saying if you are on 4.4 there is no way to root unless you follow the downgrade process by jcase?
seems silly I went through all the trouble of buying a develop edition and i just unlocked my bootloader and i still have to do this extensive process just to downgrade to get root and keep root and then upgrade why is there not a quick simply root on 4.4 DE
Valnomien said:
so is everyone saying if you are on 4.4 there is no way to root unless you follow the downgrade process by jcase?
seems silly I went through all the trouble of buying a develop edition and i just unlocked my bootloader and i still have to do this extensive process just to downgrade to get root and keep root and then upgrade why is there not a quick simply root on 4.4 DE
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Ermm correct me if I'm mistaken but the above instructions are only for locked bootloaders. Since you have the dev edition, all you need to do is unlock the bootloader, flash the TWRP port floating around here, reboot and accept the SuperSU installation.
It's that simple. As someone buying a dev edition, I would have thought you would know this.
Sorry I did not know that coming in to this I wasn't really given a choice because moto screwed up cyber Monday I just figured what the hell get the Dev edition as it's protected with warranty and unlock boot loader I did find a cyanogen wiki that eventually lead me to your conclusion I flashed twrp and now rooted thanks
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mastermind278 said:
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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In other words jump through hoops.
esskayy said:
Ermm correct me if I'm mistaken but the above instructions are only for locked bootloaders. Since you have the dev edition, all you need to do is unlock the bootloader, flash the TWRP port floating around here, reboot and accept the SuperSU installation.
It's that simple. As someone buying a dev edition, I would have thought you would know this.
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I have the non dev edition - I'm guessing it's not this easy then?
Assumption
mpkrcl said:
First you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 (camera update) via RSD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515&highlight=rsdlite
Then Either:
A. Follow All Steps in SlapMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896 (which ends with 4.4 rooted)
OR
B. Do RockMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590 (which leaves you with 4.2.2 camera update rooted)
Install Safestrap - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Then, Install the 4.4 ROM via Safestrap (plus remember to manually flash 4.4 kernel and radio) - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/
I did the latter, but I think the more mainstream path seems to be the SlapMyMoto method....
up to you...
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I apologize, my advice above assumed a locked/unlockable bootloader (ATT or VZW retail)
Dev Editions or other carriers are unlockable at Moto's website, then just flash a custom recovery, and flash SuperSU.
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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PwnMyMoto and jcase's methods are for locked bootloaders. You first need to unlock your bootloader. Then you need to decide if you want to take the OTA to 4.4 or not because once you upgrade to 4.2.2 post-camera, you can never downgrade to 4.2.2 pre-camera without bricking your device.
If you want to upgrade to 4.4, here are the instructions to unlock and gain root:
[STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS] Unlocking and Rooting a Dev Ed Moto X Running Kit Kat
I have read of others who kept the 4.2.2 bootloader and other partitions and just selectively flashed those partitions they wanted as each new upgrade's sbf firmware was released. I don't know what advantages there are to doing that.
ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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It's a Developer Edition. Take all the updates available (4.2.2 camera update, 4.4 and now 4.4.2). Get the unlock code from Motorola and unlock your bootloader. Once that is done, flash twrp recovery and then install root via twrp.
Very simple on Dev Editions just because you can unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery (twrp, cwm, etc..).
I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).
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I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
I didn't know there was a different TWRP for 4.2.2.
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).
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From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
Great info, thanks.
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
I did something like that for an HTC ONE i have on straight talk. I unlocked the bootloader from the HTC website, then installed TWRP, and then rooted and its running a 4.4.2 ROM that is great.
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From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
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Incorrect. You can do whatever you want with the DE, regardless of what version of Android you're on.
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ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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There are directions on a 1 page pamphlet that came with your VZW DE on how to unlock the bootloader.
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ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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It is all in that step-by-step link I gave you above.
Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?
ejason said:
Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?
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did it finish flashing? mine says that when i flash a recovery also, but it flashes.
after you flash it dont reboot, just go into recovery (volume down to move the selection, volume up to execute)
then select reboot system, and it will ask if you want to root.
ejason said:
ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the twrp.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and cd into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the twrp with goo manager?
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ok, thanks for everyones hellp. Done and done..
Hey Guys,
I've got a my AT&T Moto X rooted on 4.4, but I'd like to install 4.4.2 and remain rooted.
I've got a locked bootloader, but I'm having a hard time finding the steps necessary to update the OS, and stay rooted. Can someone point me in the right direction? I've used the search feature, and found info on safestrap, and the ATT 1058.XML, but I cannot find the correct version of SafeStrap needed, and detailed instructions.
Thanks in advance!
If your bootloader is unlocked, flash the SBF of ATT's 4.4.2 (there is a thread telling you how to return to 100% stock using RSDLite), then follow the thread telling you how to root a developer edition X.
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but I cannot find the correct version of SafeStrap needed
Thanks in advance!
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KidJoe said:
If your bootloader is unlocked, flash the SBF of ATT's 4.4.2 (there is a thread telling you how to return to 100% stock using RSDLite), then follow the thread telling you how to root a developer edition X.
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My Bootloader is locked...I can't find the steps to update to 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.
97vulcan said:
My Bootloader is locked...I can't find the steps to update to 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.
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There isn't much here about using Safestrap with the X.. Rootzwiki.com has a few threads.
I haven't used it, so I don't know if there is a 4.4.2 for Safestrap on ATT.
Since the Chinese website/middleman thread is back up, you can try and get a bootloader unlock code that way.
97vulcan said:
My Bootloader is locked...I can't find the steps to update to 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader.
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Safestrap binary: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Upgrade from 4.4 to 4.4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-165-44-1-ghostatt-sbf-t2730956
edit: If you upgrading from 4.4, you can likely skip step 8 (wipe/factory reset).
Ctrl-Freak said:
Safestrap binary: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Upgrade from 4.4 to 4.4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-165-44-1-ghostatt-sbf-t2730956
edit: If you upgrading from 4.4, you can likely skip step 8 (wipe/factory reset).
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Thank you! I'll post results after 4.4.2 install.
Successfully installed 4.4.2, and it's working great! Thanks again!
I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
I second this. Same situation as you (Verizon model) and would like to go 4.4.4 and keep my root.
popcornmeat said:
I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
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If your bootloader is unlocked, yes, you can keep root, though you will need to the reflash supersu.zip (or have twrp automagically do it). Otherwise, no. There is no root available for unlocked 4.4.4. If you don't have an unlocked bootloader, check out the Sunshine thread in the general section.
Is your X an ATT XT1058? If not, you should be able to unlock for free through Moto (there are a number of threads around on doing so). For you @EpicBlob, since you are using a Verizon XT1060, if it isn't the Dev Edition, Sunshine is your only option now and is $25 to use.
Kind of, if root is hidden via superSU you can take the ota & then use sunshine. But why risk it.
As I recall, you can keep root but you will loose write access to system. This means if you use root to modify anything, it wont stick after a reboot. I would advise against it unless you have an unlocked bootloader.
If you have a custom recovery, you need to flash your stock recovery first also. ?
Darth said:
If you have a custom recovery, you need to flash your stock recovery first also. ?
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Where can I find the stock recovery for XT1052 running 4.4.4... tried alot couldnt find it......can u point me...???
JJHunterx said:
As I recall, you can keep root but you will loose write access to system. This means if you use root to modify anything, it wont stick after a reboot. I would advise against it unless you have an unlocked bootloader.
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I have an AT&T XT1058 too, my but i had my BL unlocked through sunshine.
I am still on 4.4, but now that i have my BL unlocked, i want to update to 4.4.4. Why do you say that i can keep the root but i will loose write access to system?
Can't i restore it?
Minato04 said:
I have an AT&T XT1058 too, my but i had my BL unlocked through sunshine.
I am still on 4.4, but now that i have my BL unlocked, i want to update to 4.4.4. Why do you say that i can keep the root but i will loose write access to system?
Can't i restore it?
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You didn't mention you had an unlocked bootloader.
If it were me, I would RSD back to stock 4.4, take the OTA's to 4.4.4, flash recovery, flash root. (Only if you have an unlocked bootloader of course. )
I would just find the 4.4.4 AT&T sbf/fxz and flash it manually instead of taking OTAs.
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I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
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EpicBlob said:
I second this. Same situation as you (Verizon model) and would like to go 4.4.4 and keep my root.
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Sorry I'm joining late... But...
If your bootloader is LOCKED (Standard on the ATT XT1058, and Verizon XT1060), then do not upgrade to 4.4.4. You will lose Root. The vulnerabilities exploited by Pie and Towel have been patched in 4.4.4, and you will not be able to re-root.
However, If while on 4.4.2 or lower you have unlocked your bootloader by either using Sunshine, or purchasing an Unlock Code from the China Middle man when available (the only two options to unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 and Verizon XT1060 non-developer edition), you will likely lose root taking the update, but can re-root after 4.4.4 is on your phone.
To take OTA, you need stock recovery on your phone, and to be as close to stock as possible (so the OTA's preflash validation check doesn't fail). After the OTA is installed, flash TWRP, reboot-bootloader and enter TWRP.
The other option is to download the 4.4.4 SBF from one of the sites listed in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347 and flash your phone with it via RSDLite or mFastboot. After flashing, use mFastboot to flash TWRP recovery, reboot-bootloader, then enter TWRP.
Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
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Unroot + Update
treepog said:
Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
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Unroot + Update, then Root again...
Thank you both for the replies. Yes, I'd like to unlock bootloader. I don't remember exactly what I used to root since it was a while ago. I believe it was an app. Does it matter? What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader?
How do I unroot since I don't remember exactly how I rooted? Then once I unlock bootloader do I try to get the auto update from Sprint or download the update somewhere?
Thanks again!
bushako said:
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
Sent from my Moto X
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nijom said:
Unroot + Update, then Root again...
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You can unroot by the su app but you don't have to be unrooted to take ota's. Just have stock recovery and your stock ROM. If I were you, I wouldn't update the bootloader, so you can easily go back. Lots of complaints about 5.1. So go unlock the bootloader first with root, flash twrp, and then flash this ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155843
Then if you don't like stock lollipop, you can go back. Lots of people like 4.4.4. This ROM doesn't update the boot loader
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