Hello,
I did some research recently, and this caused a little bit of confusion, so I'll post a quick question:
I'm trying to buy this phone on ebay (since I don't have a US CC card), which one should I get, the T-Mobile or AT&T version?
Requirements:
- to unlock it for Europe GSM
- install CyanogenMod
As of now I was going for the T-Mobile, since I've read it's easier to unlock the bootloader, but now I see that the CM is only for AT&T phones? Or am I mistaking?
Thanks!
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Any source confirming this?
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.
RenSoAbrupt said:
Any source confirming this?
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Yes, me. I bought a T-Mobile Moto X in November and had to choose my carrier. I bought another Moto X last week and there was no carrier selection, I only had to choose between GSM and CDMA. Both times I received an XT1053 with a T-Mobile SIM in it.
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TheSaw said:
Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.
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I have no knowledge of the bootloader situation, only my experience with the purchases as noted above.
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As far as AT&T bootloader goes it is still not unlockable. When it will be? Nobody really knows if Motorola is going to add it to its Unlock program.
scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.
larry62 said:
Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.
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Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.
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Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.
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Maybe they were temporarily sold out of the AT&T model? There is some LTE band on the AT&T model not available on the XT1053, but if I remember that band isn't used currently by AT&T in the USA anyways. People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.
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...People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.
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Hmm...good points. :/ I'll take my chances without the software and lock.
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I found an XT1053 on eBay with a spanish user manual. Bought it assuming the bootloader would be unlockable on the motorola site but I was wrong. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 lists the supported devices but "Latin America" doesn't get too specific.
Anyone know how we can determine which devices can be bootloader unlocked? I'd hate to go through this again. Maybe I should have just spent the extra $100 for a t-mobile version... I sure do like the lack of carrier branding on this device.
A better way to answer would be:
All but Verizon and AT&T.
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1ManWolfePack said:
A better way to answer would be:
All but Verizon and AT&T.
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Sadly, it's not that simple. This is not an AT&T (XT1058) or Verizon (XT1060) but an XT1053. I believe it's a Nextel Moto X. It has a spanish manual, defaulted to spanish when setting it up, has an unused SIM card that says Nextel.
It was not able to be bootloader unlocked on the motorola site.
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Sadly, it's not that simple. This is not an AT&T (XT1058) or Verizon (XT1060) but an XT1053. I believe it's a Nextel Moto X. It has a spanish manual, defaulted to spanish when setting it up, has an unused SIM card that says Nextel.
It was not able to be bootloader unlocked on the motorola site.
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just FYI - the T-Mobile one is unbranded. its basically a 16gb dev edition, same model xt1053.
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just FYI - the T-Mobile one is unbranded. its basically a 16gb dev edition.
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Cool. I thought I saw it with a T-Mobile logo on the back somewhere online but I could certainly be mistaken. There are no carrier apps installed on the T-Mobile version?
I think I'll just resell this one and buy the tmo or dev edition new straight from Motorola. Don't want to mess with eBay over and over trying to get one whose bootloader can be unlocked. I thought it was "not AT&T or Verizon" too but now I see that's not the case and it may just be a north american-centric view of the situation...
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Cool. I thought I saw it with a T-Mobile logo on the back somewhere online but I could certainly be mistaken. There are no carrier apps installed on the T-Mobile version?
I think I'll just resell this one and buy the tmo or dev edition new straight from Motorola. Don't want to mess with eBay over and over trying to get one whose bootloader can be unlocked. I thought it was "not AT&T or Verizon" too but now I see that's not the case and it may just be a north american-centric view of the situation...
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double check, but I'm 99% sure. they weren't even selling it in stores or on their own website as far as I know. no physical branding or software I'm pretty sure.
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
HwlHwl said:
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
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They're the exact same phone x1053, make sure the LTE bands are correct for the carriers you want to use (5 and 7 are x1058 only)
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The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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I can't verify whether it's SIM locked or not but I have one in my hand and the T-Mobile XT1053 does not have any branding on it. There is no logo on it. There are no T-Mo apps on it either.
It's unlocked. Using it with prepaid at&t.
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I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo?
And if no, then my next question would be if I used it on AT&T, do I lose LTE? I was told mixed things, that I would and I may not have AT&T 4G LTE.
Because then I may just get the Nexus 5.
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justinisloco said:
I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo? ...
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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).
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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).
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Thanks, would you be able to answer the second question as well?
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You don't lose LTE. You may have to call up AT&T to make sure AT&T lists it as a LTE device, as a few people here have done.
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I'm using the T-Mobile variant on straight talk and I pick up LTE off of at&ts towers
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So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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justinisloco said:
So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Edit: clarifying my train of thought after just waking up.
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Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Edit: clarifying my train of thought after just waking up.
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Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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You'll get it when T-Mobile releases it. I've never been on their service and I got the notification for kitkat about 10 minutes after I inserted my straight talk sim card that's using at&ts towers
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Can't get straight answers!....HELP if you please
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
Another question:
Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.
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No, you have to get an unlock code from Motorola and it voids your warranty.
Why not just get the GSM Dev Ed and keep your warranty after you unlock it?
I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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Zcam said:
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
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AFAIK, the 850MHz band is only used for 2G/3G, which is usable by the unlocked X. From my research, I don't see anyone with any plans to use LTE on that frequency.
Short answer: If AT&T or one of their roaming partners has service, you should be fine.
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Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.
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You would not be able to use native tethering unless you pay for the tethering service to the best of my knowledge.
From what I remember of PDA.net from years ago was that it did not need root to function.
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I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was/is the original stance by Motorola. They got a bit of backlash and reversed the decision for the Dev devices only.
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I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was their old policy. Motorola has reversed themselves on that policy.
The only thread I see is for the Sprint version. Is there a thread for the XT1053? I am using Consumer Cellular (uses the ATT network.)
Will be traveling to Canada next month and would like to have the phone available if the cost is reasonable (Consumer Cellular advises to leave the phone off when out of the country due to high roaming costs, $1-$3/minute). Are the Ebay providers typically reliable?
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The only thread I see is for the Sprint version. Is there a thread for the XT1053? I am using Consumer Cellular (uses the ATT network.)
Will be traveling to Canada next month and would like to have the phone available if the cost is reasonable (Consumer Cellular advises to leave the phone off when out of the country due to high roaming costs, $1-$3/minute). Are the Ebay providers typically reliable?
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??? The XT1053 **IS** the GSM unlocked version. It is already SIM-Unlocked....
The XT1056 is the Sprint variant.
If you do indeed have an XT1053, you need not worry as you are already sim-unlocked....
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??? The XT1053 **IS** the GSM unlocked version. It is already SIM-Unlocked....
If you do indeed have an XT1053, you need not worry as you are already sim-unlocked....
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The Android System Info app say it is the XT1053. Is there anything in the "about phone" section that will confirm this?
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The Android System Info app say it is the XT1053. Is there anything in the "about phone" section that will confirm this?
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The firmware version should say "retail" in it. If so, you are definitely sim-unlocked already.
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The firmware version should say "retail" in it. If so, you are definitely sim-unlocked already.
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The system version is 212.44.21.ghost_row.Retail.en.US so I guess I'm all set then, right? Thanks.
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The Android System Info app say it is the XT1053. Is there anything in the "about phone" section that will confirm this?
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Is there any "fine print" at the bottom on the back? If so, that would say the model number. As @samwathegreat said, every XT1053 we've seen so far has been SIM UNlocked right out of the box.
And if your carrier is using ATT's network, are you sure its not an XT1058? If its an XT1058 then, yes its likely sim locked. In that case either your carrier would need to give you the SIM unlock code (aka network unlock), or you'd have to buy it from a 3rd party seller.
(The XT1058 supports one or two LTE frequencies that ATT uses which the XT1053 doesn't).
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The system version is 212.44.21.ghost_row.Retail.en.US so I guess I'm all set then, right? Thanks.
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You typed that while I was typing my post...
Yes, that is the 4.4.3 rom found on the XT1053. So if that is the XT1053, it should be SIM unlocked.
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Is there any "fine print" at the bottom on the back? If so, that would say the model number.
And if your carrier is using ATT's network, are you sure its not an XT1058?
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It does say xt1053 on the back. It actually came from Motorola with a T-mobile SIM in it but we activated it initially with an AT&T MVNO.
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It does say xt1053 on the back. It actually came from Motorola with a T-mobile SIM in it but we activated it initially with an AT&T MVNO.
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That explains the XT1053 and the ROM on it. Yes, that is SIM unlocked out of the box, and you can unlock the bootloader if you want via Moto's site (but it voids the warranty)
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That explains the XT1053 and the ROM on it. Yes, that is SIM unlocked out of the box, and you can unlock the bootloader if you want via Moto's site (but it voids the warranty)
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It's actually my wife's phone and I know better than to mess with it!
Hi!
Any idea if the unlocked version of Tmobile Nexus 6 will work on Verizon network?
Im asking because there is only one Nexus for all carries in U.S.A
I would do so because Tmobile version for sure wont locked bootloader, unlock it and use it on Verizon.
If nexus legend holds true it should come with an unlockable boot loader like all the other nexus. N7 was compatible with Verizon and it was the same device across the other carriers. If the carrier locks the phone I'd be very surprised.
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There are only 2 NExus 6 models. The US model and then the one for the rest of the world. So we can infer that there will be no carrier branding and it will work on all networks (Sprint, AT&T, Verizon & T-Mobile). So Google really nailed it with one model covering all of the LTE bands on every carrier.
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There are only 2 NExus 6 models. The US model and then the one for the rest of the world. So we can infer that there will be no carrier branding and it will work on all networks (Sprint, AT&T, Verizon & T-Mobile). So Google really nailed it with one model covering all of the LTE bands on every carrier.
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If that's indeed the truth and Verizon doesn't lock it down I'd probably get one myself. I love the G3 but the N6 seems like it could be the way to go...
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If that's indeed the truth and Verizon doesn't lock it down I'd probably get one myself. I love the G3 but the N6 seems like it could be the way to go...
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Thats what google said which is why its implied that all carriers will get the same phone. Google has more control over what carriers can do so it should be a good change.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...of-the-worldhere-are-all-the-supported-bands/
Damn that's awesome.Does anyone know what the 32 and 64Gb device will cost.and will it launch this month? Thanks In advance!!!
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Damn that's awesome.Does anyone know what the 32 and 64Gb device will cost.and will it launch this month? Thanks In advance!!!
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I read something like $649-32GB and $699-64GB
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I read something like $649-32GB and $699-64GB
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That seems about right, I think its fair for what you are getting. Also Nexus devices retain their value extremely well.