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Moto X (can bootloader be unlocked)

Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny

vinnyjr said:
Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny
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it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).

sleepyguy007 said:
it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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Thanks for the fast reply. Great information.
Vinny

If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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wturner859 said:
If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.

I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"

I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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pjcordi said:
I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader, obviously Fido hasn't given them the OK, see if you can return it and pick up the rogers version at full price and use your Fido Sim card,you shouldn't have to Sim unlock as we all know Rogers is Fido's parent company
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Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Basically the problem is some carriers are not giving their imei lists to Motorola to have those phones in the unlock program. Thats probably why there are some Latin America units that can't unlock

pjcordi said:
Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Being Fido makes no difference, it runs the Rogers firmware and is unlockable. Its looking like several people have tried to unlock bootloaders today(including me) and the Motorola website has said they are not eligible. So my conclusion at this point is that the backend server that handles the codes is down/broken.

sleepyguy007 said:
it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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For the Nextel Mexico XT1053, It has been confirmed that is a mistake as can be seen in this thread on Motorola's Website. They are working the issue, but it may take more time.

GoClifGo05 said:
Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.
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Wrong. I contacted Moto. The GSM unlocked version is NOT bootloader unlockable. My unlock code does not work. I am sending it back.

neotenshi said:
I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
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Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader,
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^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215

As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
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KidJoe said:
^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
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As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.

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attn1 said:
The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.
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So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet

flashallthetime said:
So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.

attn1 said:
Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.
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So the 2 idiots you spoke to are wrong, you can unlock
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

[Q] T-Mobile Moto X: can I use it on any GSM carrier?

Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!

The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.

HwlHwl said:
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
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They're the exact same phone x1053, make sure the LTE bands are correct for the carriers you want to use (5 and 7 are x1058 only)

Steve-x said:
The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?

Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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I can't verify whether it's SIM locked or not but I have one in my hand and the T-Mobile XT1053 does not have any branding on it. There is no logo on it. There are no T-Mo apps on it either.

It's unlocked. Using it with prepaid at&t.
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Confused by Moto X versions

I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks

Anderson2 said:
I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
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Republic wireless phone only works with republic wireless.
Start with your carrier then go from there. If GSM and you NEED root i suggest t-mobile or dev edition so u can unlock bootloader and always guarantee root.

What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.

aooga said:
then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. .
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?

netsyd said:
Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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yes

aooga said:
What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.

Anderson2 said:
I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.

aooga said:
Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US

savagedp said:
Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
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The radios all differ slightly. And yes, you should get the tmobile one since it's sim unlocked. I don't know the bands of your carrier, so you might have to look it up and compare it with the US bands.

Ok just checked. Seems like only 3G will work in Singapore. LTE here is band 3 and 7. whereas T-mobile seems to be just on band 4.

[Q] TMobile or AT&T (No US)

Hello,
I did some research recently, and this caused a little bit of confusion, so I'll post a quick question:
I'm trying to buy this phone on ebay (since I don't have a US CC card), which one should I get, the T-Mobile or AT&T version?
Requirements:
- to unlock it for Europe GSM
- install CyanogenMod
As of now I was going for the T-Mobile, since I've read it's easier to unlock the bootloader, but now I see that the CM is only for AT&T phones? Or am I mistaking?
Thanks!

It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Any source confirming this?
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.

RenSoAbrupt said:
Any source confirming this?
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Yes, me. I bought a T-Mobile Moto X in November and had to choose my carrier. I bought another Moto X last week and there was no carrier selection, I only had to choose between GSM and CDMA. Both times I received an XT1053 with a T-Mobile SIM in it.
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Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.
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I have no knowledge of the bootloader situation, only my experience with the purchases as noted above.
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As far as AT&T bootloader goes it is still not unlockable. When it will be? Nobody really knows if Motorola is going to add it to its Unlock program.

scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.

larry62 said:
Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.
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Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.

scottjb said:
Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.
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Maybe they were temporarily sold out of the AT&T model? There is some LTE band on the AT&T model not available on the XT1053, but if I remember that band isn't used currently by AT&T in the USA anyways. People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.

larry62 said:
...People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.
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Hmm...good points. :/ I'll take my chances without the software and lock.

[Q] Which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola?

I'm looking to buy a used Moto X, and am trying to figure out which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola and not a carrier. I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US. I don't trust the carriers to continue pushing out Motorola's updates, so I'd rather just get them from Motorola directly.
My understanding is that the new dev versions and the retail, full-priced versions from Motorola will get updates. How do I identify those on the secondary market? Is it as simple as - if the back doesn't have a carrier logo, it gets updates from Motorola? Should I only be looking for an XT1053 and not an XT1058?
Looked in the FAQs and searched, but couldn't find an answer.
Thanks!

I could be wrong, but I don't think any of them get the update OTA straight from motorola. Even the dev and unlocked GSM's roms are labeled as T-Mobile retail. However, if you have one of those devices and an unlocked bootloader, you can download the system images straight from moto's website and easily install the updates yourself. So either version works in your case. The only difference is that you lose your warranty if you don't have a dev edition.
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That Ain't Falco!!! said:
I could be wrong, but I don't think any of them get the update OTA straight from motorola. Even the dev and unlocked GSM's roms are labeled as T-Mobile retail. However, if you have one of those devices and an unlocked bootloader, you can download the system images straight from moto's website and easily install the updates yourself. So either version works in your case. The only difference is that you lose your warranty if you don't have a dev edition.
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Thanks for the answer. So, theoretically, it wouldn't matter which device I got. Good to know. Thanks!

511pf said:
I'm looking to buy a used Moto X, and am trying to figure out which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola and not a carrier. I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US. I don't trust the carriers to continue pushing out Motorola's updates, so I'd rather just get them from Motorola directly.
My understanding is that the new dev versions and the retail, full-priced versions from Motorola will get updates. How do I identify those on the secondary market? Is it as simple as - if the back doesn't have a carrier logo, it gets updates from Motorola? Should I only be looking for an XT1053 and not an XT1058?
Looked in the FAQs and searched, but couldn't find an answer.
Thanks!
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If you want to be able to use your phone on multiple carriers, definitely buy the XT1053.
The XT1053 comes bootloader-unlockable and sim-unlocked. If you buy the XT1058 AT&T variant, the bootloader cannot be unlocked (unless you are lucky enough to get a code from the china middleman), and the phones are SIM-Locked to AT&T (unusable on T-Mobile). Some have reported success getting a SIM-Unlock code from online sellers, but others have reported that they tried all of the online sellers and none of the unlock codes work.
If you want a phone that will 100% be usable on any GSM carrier, buy the XT1053.
All variants should [eventually] receive the updates.

Don't know about XT1053 but I got the XT1052 and it came with unlock-able bootloader too, and of course all GSM SIM cards are working.

511pf said:
I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US.
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In addition to what That Ain't Falco!!! said..
The ATT XT1058 doesn't support HSPA/HSPA+ on AWS(1700/2100mhz). When T-Mobile first launched their HSPA/HSPA+ network that is the frequency they used. While they are working to upgrade and re-farm their 1900Mhz spectrum to HSPA/HSPA+, in areas where they haven't yet completed that, the XT1058 would only get EDGE when using it on T-Mobile
While the GSM Unlocked XT1053 is sim unlocked out of the box and bootloader unlockable, unlocking the bootloader does void the warranty. The Dev Edition XT1053 can't be customized (comes as 32gig, black face, woven white back, silver accents and says Dev Edition on the back), but unlocking the bootloader does NOT void the warranty. But in reality, the hardware "inside" is exactly the same, and they use the same roms/updates.
If you want to root, its easiest/best if you can unlock the bootloader.

Great answers, guys. Thanks a ton for taking the time. I'm definitely going to look for the XT1053.