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Questions about the N7

Not sure if this is the correct area but I have a few questions:
How well does the tablet preform?
How do you guys find it?
Is it good for gaming?
How's the battery life of the device?
Is it worth the amount of money people are selling it at?
What do you recommend the 8 GB or 16 GB
Might have a few more but that's all for now, hope you guys can help me out!
Thanks.

1. Fantastically, I haven't noticed any lag, no unresponsiveness at all
2. It's a great device and is built sturdily, the only problem I have with it is that the keyboard is just little too wide to type while holding it, it's possible but mistakes are common
3. Excellent, I've been playing Shadowgun, Need For Speed, Angry Birds, Cogs and World of Goo on it and it's been performing really well, no lag at all and the screen size is just right, and it even keeps the games in memory after opening lots of other apps and it responds really well.
4. Great, got about 7 hours out of it while gaming solidly with screen on auto brightness, when on apps other than games it lasts about 8 hours and a half
5. Yes, considering it does everything rather well, I thought reading would be difficult but it's not
6. If you download a lot of the "bigger" games from the Play Store, then go for the 16GB, if not, everything is cloud based so just go for the 8GB, unless you want to store stuff for offline use

Warbs816 said:
1. Fantastically, I haven't noticed any lag, no unresponsiveness at all
2. It's a great device and is built sturdily, the only problem I have with it is that the keyboard is just little too wide to type while holding it, it's possible but mistakes are common
3. Excellent, I've been playing Shadowgun, Need For Speed, Angry Birds, Cogs and World of Goo on it and it's been performing really well, no lag at all and the screen size is just right, and it even keeps the games in memory after opening lots of other apps and it responds really well.
4. Great, got about 7 hours out of it while gaming solidly with screen on auto brightness, when on apps other than games it lasts about 8 hours and a half
5. Yes, considering it does everything rather well, I thought reading would be difficult but it's not
6. If you download a lot of the "bigger" games from the Play Store, then go for the 16GB, if not, everything is cloud based so just go for the 8GB, unless you want to store stuff for offline use
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Thank you so much for your informative feed back, could I install a 32 GB MicroSD card? If so that would be cheaper, since it's quiet a lot for a 16 GB Version and its only double the capacity!

Sorry for double comments, but does the launcher do landscape? I saw somewhere it don't do that, or maybe there's a setting for that?

TheCyberShocker said:
Sorry for double comments, but does the launcher do landscape? I saw somewhere it don't do that, or maybe there's a setting for that?
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There are two hacks to get this fixed. One is build. prop edit. the other i think is a framework xml edit (dont quite me on the second) Its a assumption but im sure its framework related. I do not have my tablet yet :crying:
This will most likely require you to Root your tablet.

Awe why don't they just add a setting like most launchers ;(
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Had no plan of rooting the device cause didn't see the need to lol guess I would need to for this, do you think the edits will be easy to do? X
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I'm sure you know it does landscape except when on the launcher screens, but mine didn't have "auto rotation " enabled out of the box. If anyone isn't getting landscape when browsing the web, etc., check your settings.
BTW, I just use Apex Launcher and now have landscape on the homescreen too.
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Well I know about the auto rotation but the launcher I want auto rotation on also like most launchers
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Well I know about the auto rotation but the launcher I want auto rotation on also like most launchers
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I would use Apex. It's free and not only does it auto rotate the home screen, you can configure your launcher to exactly how you want it.
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Yeh might end up using that or zeam launcher if that's how you spell it lol
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How are the speakers on the n7?
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TheCyberShocker said:
Thank you so much for your informative feed back, could I install a 32 GB MicroSD card? If so that would be cheaper, since it's quiet a lot for a 16 GB Version and its only double the capacity!
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There's no MicroSD card slot on the Nexus 7.

Gah!!! Really? Darn it ;(
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What does unlocked mean? Thought it meant like mobile network lol
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TheCyberShocker said:
What does unlocked mean? Thought it meant like mobile network lol
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The mobile network unlock is called SIM unlocking, which allows you to switch to other networks. Bootloader unlocking, the most commonly talked about here on XDA, means modifying your device to allow custom versions of Android.

Probably means the second one then, so that's equivalent to rooted? or not?

Another thing is, the USB port on the device, can that be used for any keyboard? maybe also a usb hub, so i can connect a mouse to it also?

Bump
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TheCyberShocker said:
Another thing is, the USB port on the device, can that be used for any keyboard? maybe also a usb hub, so i can connect a mouse to it also?
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Keyboard/mouse: yes. USB host capability (for expanding the storage of the device via flash drive): only when rooted so far. An update might fix it if enough people complain, but for now, you have to root it and get stickmount (or a similar app).
And shouldn't this thread really be in Q and A?
-Ara

Real reason to root the Nexus 4

Anybody have one besides for development? The Google representative here at Best Buy is arguing that to him, he sees to reason to root a nexus phone because its already AOSP. I watched the new XDA video on it and showed him but he feels he isn't missing anything worth it.
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zander145 said:
Anybody have one besides for development? The Google representative here at Best Buy is arguing that to him, he sees to reason to root a nexus phone because its already AOSP. I watched the new XDA video on it and showed him but he feels he isn't missing anything worth it.
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Rooting will allow you to install some apps that require root ie. TitaniumBackup.
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zander145 said:
Anybody have one besides for development? The Google representative here at Best Buy is arguing that to him, he sees to reason to root a nexus phone because its already AOSP. I watched the new XDA video on it and showed him but he feels he isn't missing anything worth it.
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How else would someone use rooted apps?
Titanium backup, adaway, even cerburus offers better protection on rooted devices.
Maybe you want to do a nandroid backup, flash ROMs, kernels, tweaks etc
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So it can grow when water is added to it.

Nandroid backups...
"Because you can"
AOKP, Cyanogenmod, etc.

Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTkHe7-lXw

chrisjcks said:
How else would someone use rooted apps?
Titanium backup, adaway, even cerburus offers better protection on rooted devices.
Maybe you want to do a nandroid backup, flash ROMs, kernels, tweaks etc
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I tried that a while ago. He said "android already does that, when I logged in it downloaded all my apps" i tried explaining that he had to download them and with titanium backup it saves your settings and everything and you don't need data, but he didn't listen saying he was on WiFi and something else. And he says he's okay with the virus protection 4.2 offers.
I just figured out why its useless talking to him though. He's a iSheep. He only has a nexus 7 and 4 because Google gave them to him.
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Geo411m said:
Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTkHe7-lXw
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I showed him that but his eyes kinda glazed over when i made him watch it... i said it in the OP.
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Well if someone is completely against rooting and doesn't see any benefit in it, then he will be happy even with a iPhone.
No need to argue about the missed possibilities

Geo411m said:
Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTkHe7-lXw
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Good vid!

+1 for Titanium
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Titanium, file access, being able to remove system apps, there are many reasons to root besides developing..
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Adway is my number one reason. I can't stand ads anymore. They are everywhere! on the internet browser, games, radio and apps. Adaway gets rid of all of them. Makes me enjoy my nexus phone so much more
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I'm tired of flashing ROMs, after a G1, Vibrant, Galaxy Tab and GS2. I'm currently happy enough with proper unskinned, pure Android on my N7 & N4. I don't feel compelled to root either one. It sounds like some of you think that makes me a bad person! LOL
My old Galaxy Tab is on CM9, used by my 7 y.o. son. The GS2 is on CM10, used by my 12 y.o. daughter. I consider both more imperfect combinations than 4.2 on my Nexxi. Great, best options for their hardware, but the Nexxi are superior. My daughter wants an N4 when they're back in stock. I now want a N10 to complete the trifecta.
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yah its user preference. Some people get tired of flashing ROMs, like myself and in the end of the day I just want phone to work reliably. BUT i am rooted!

I love the aspect of custom kernels most. You can improve performance, battery life or even add features to the device.

Don't bother the guy into rooting. I've rooted since my Og moto droid. Back then you wanted more performance or features that didn't come stock. Aosp has hit a point where I don't need to root anymore. So many Roms out there that claim its been optimized, zipalinged , faster this and that battery this and that. It always ended up buggier than **** days later. Rooting takes time, research, more time.
4.2 has everything I need. I don't need ti because I don't need to wipe my phone. There are no preinstalled apps I need to get rid of. Tethering is included.
Android is about choice. Please don't label someone an isheep because they are happy with what they have.

Root is 1 file. Why not?

Modify clock speed
Modify the screen colors(Voodoo i think)
Performance gains(ext4, jit, etc)
Fix Bugs in stock Rom
Can fix compatibility with apps
Remove Bloatware if exists
Access to Root apps like ChainFire 3D

Titanium backup
Don't need anymore reason

[Q] Multitasking.- fixed or not?

I love the look of this phone, and I was insanely happy with my One X but I had to make the jump to the S3 (and later the Note 2) because of the multitasking woes that plagued the phone. No matter how I phrase an internet search I can't hear any preview that addresses the issue that many review sites completely ignored the last time around.
So the bottom line question is this: Will the M7 have standard multitasking? (I.e. the phone does NOT refresh applications/web pages/etc in an effort to conserve battery life).

+1 this was my biggest gripe with the hox....I switched to the gs3 as well but looking to possibility move back to htc if this has been fixed
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Indeed. HTC has fantastic build quality (I'd easily put the one X with any iPhone). If it had multitasking I'd put up with a non removable battery. Especially since I tend to watch a lot of Netflix lately while waiting for classes and I love the idea of the speaker placements on the m7.
And the one X still had the best camera I'd ever had on a smartphone)
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Sorry guys can you clarify about the multitasking issue on the HTC One X? I had an Nexus phone a few years back and thought all Android phones fully multitasked out the box so to speak.

Android has multi tasking but i heard htc one x broke that. When you switch to another app and comeback using recent apps that app would need to be reopened which means it gets terminated even if you dont kill it

It has been fixed on the One according to all the videos I've seen
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Do you have a link?
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daleski75 said:
Sorry guys can you clarify about the multitasking issue on the HTC One X? I had an Nexus phone a few years back and thought all Android phones fully multitasked out the box so to speak.
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The HTC One X had the worst multi tasking of any phone. You could literally go between just two apps and they apps would have to completely reload. They would not even be in a save state. For instance, i would be surfing the internet, go text real quick and come back, only to find my internet had to reload the whole page I was just on 30 seconds ago. It was horrible. It ruined the phone for a lot of people. And forget about trying to switch between any more apps lol. I'm not sure if HTC even acknowledged it, or I believe they said "that is just how it works". If I had known it was that bad, I would have got the s3 over it. But I bought one of the first ones so woe is me.

soapbubble said:
Do you have a link?
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What I said is based on those hundred of One videos I've watched. Still I'll post if I manage to get a link
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I found a German video right here where you can see it.
At 2:32 you can see it.
This video is short but quite informing also if you dont understand german.
lg chris115379

sorry but i don't see anything in that video that shows that the HTC one has true multi tasking?
i hope all the people who have played with the demo units can let us know.

It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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ponts said:
It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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Just to clarify:
People aren't asking if the HTC One can multitask, it is obvious that it can.
We are asking:
How is the memory management on the phone? Does it unload app quickly, like the HTC One X? Or does it save them in memory.
With the HTC One X, if u opened a webpage, then went to the home scream, once u returned to the webpage it would reload instead of staying in memory.
We want to know if basicly this behaviour is still present? Or if it stays in memory.

Maedhros said:
Just to clarify:
People aren't asking if the HTC One can multitask, it is obvious that it can.
We are asking:
How is the memory management on the phone? Does it unload app quickly, like the HTC One X? Or does it save them in memory.
With the HTC One X, if u opened a webpage, then went to the home scream, once u returned to the webpage it would reload instead of staying in memory.
We want to know if basicly this behaviour is still present? Or if it stays in memory.
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Hello! I'm not sure about this problem but do you have a HTC One X? If so did you guys ever check the defined values of it's OOM settings already? Since that's the one that handles the killing of background apps etc.

ponts said:
It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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can you please explain how the video demonstrates the multi task for me then? thanks.
this issue with the multi tasking we're referring to was the modification made by HTC in Sense. see here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/17/htc-confirms-one-x-multitasking-tweaks-in-sense-4/

Ddot196 said:
The HTC One X had the worst multi tasking of any phone. You could literally go between just two apps and they apps would have to completely reload. They would not even be in a save state. For instance, i would be surfing the internet, go text real quick and come back, only to find my internet had to reload the whole page I was just on 30 seconds ago. It was horrible. It ruined the phone for a lot of people. And forget about trying to switch between any more apps lol. I'm not sure if HTC even acknowledged it, or I believe they said "that is just how it works". If I had known it was that bad, I would have got the s3 over it. But I bought one of the first ones so woe is me.
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This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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wednesday13 said:
This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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It all depends on your minfree values. With minfree values you/HTC can set the phone to close apps at certain memory values, to have a certain memory free when you are using apps.
Higher minfrees= more apps closed= more ram available to the few opened apps
Lower minfrees=more apps opened= less ram available to the many open apps.
All this can be changed once you root the phone so I wouldn't worry what it comes with. The beauty of Android is that EVERYTHING basically can be changed. That is if you root it There are about 1000000000 ways to do it

HOX Multitasking
Yes this was the initial behaviour of the HOX but since updating to Jelly Bean i have not noticed this anymore.

wednesday13 said:
This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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I've owned an S3 since release and rarely, if ever, have had this problem. Do you routinely use 30 apps at once or something?

ydoucare said:
I've owned an S3 since release and rarely, if ever, have had this problem. Do you routinely use 30 apps at once or something?
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S3 with 2gb ram? Or 1gb ram? I open like 7 tabs on chrome then I get a launcher redraw for 1gb ram
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NFC / Google wallet (4.3) issues...

Hey everybody ! I'm a regular user of Google wallet and since the android update to 4.3 I'm unable to utilize the apk.
I've tried with stock rooted and with custom rom but to no luck
I'm trying at a McDonald's location that I know works based on the fact that I've used it many times in the past. At least prior to the update.
Had anyone been able to use Google wallet since the 4.3 update?
Edit: I'm using an ota based rom

Interesting. I had no issue setting it up or enabling tap-to-pay, but I haven't actually tested it yet. I'm sure the custom ROM wouldn't work if it was anything besides Sense based, but I'm not 100 on Sense based custom ROMs. I'll test it out this evening when I swing by PetCo.

I haven't had any problems. Tested yesterday
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Deathsnuggle said:
I haven't had any problems. Tested yesterday
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What rom are you using please?

Have the same problem as OP. Tried it Stock rooted and BadBoy which im currently running. Both no go. Setup was fine, but when i try paying with it, nothing happens. And yes, my NFC was on and had a stable LTE connection.

No issues for me. I even got used as a training experience for a new PetCo employee. Apparently they'd been waiting on me coming back in so they could show them how to handle NFC payments. I'm not sure how I feel about being that well known at PetCo for using Google Wallet.

Tried Google Wallet at CVS Pharmacy and Best Buy both times the transaction was declined even though I wasn't close to my max credit line or on my debit card.

I've had issues since the update to the Google Wallet app. Not sure it's 4.3 the problem. But I'm getting a transaction declined when I use it. But I know it has nothing to do with my limit being reached because I always endup paying with the actual card.
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@rougegoat & @Deathsnuggle was your use while on the new 4.3 rom or something else?
My experience is nothing happens. No vibration (which normally happens when you place phone on nfc placard to pay)
no denied (because it doesn't connect or communicate)
and after trying to communicate with my wife's phone (HTC evo 4g lte) which normally at least vibrates to acknowledge something's attempting to communicate, nothing happens there either (which used to before the update)
And just to clarify I did the radio update, firmware update, recovery update, then rom (android 4.3 w/sense 5)
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I'm on omjs bad boys rom. Did you guys do full wipes? I cleared cache, dalvk cache, system, and data about three times. Everything's working from first flash.
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Deathsnuggle said:
I'm on omjs bad boys rom. Did you guys do full wipes? I cleared cache, dalvk cache, system, and data about three times. Everything's working from first flash.
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I wiped everything. Coming from 4.1 I wanted a fresh slate. Haven't even transferred my music and pictures back yet. I haven't tried badboyz rom yet though.
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Stock 4.3 + root.

Stock 4.3, root, s-off. I had a few issues the first day, but have had no issues since. But I really don't like that they set the password requirement to once a day as the default.
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Ok I wanted to post that I found out what was causing MY problem... I was using exposed framework. I'm NOT SAYING that it breaks nfc but some combination I had going was causing my issue.
I installed my rom again without exposed and it works again.
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knightwolf123 said:
Ok I wanted to post that I found out what was causing MY problem... I was using exposed framework. I'm NOT SAYING that it breaks nfc but some combination I had going was causing my issue.
I installed my rom again without exposed and it works again.
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I had a feeling it was related to this, but I love toolbox too much. What module were you using?

Well interestingly enough, the nfc function works with the android beam but my Google wallet apk isn't functioning.
Looks like back to the drawing board.
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knightwolf123 said:
Well interestingly enough, the nfc function works with the android beam but my Google wallet apk isn't functioning.
Looks like back to the drawing board.
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Yea I full wiped the other day and didn't install anything EXCEPT Google Wallet and couldn't get it to work. Wallet says tap and pay is setup correctly, but can never authorize a transaction even though my phone beeps and vibrates when it makes a connection with our vending machine. I'm on Badboyz, which is pretty close to stock.

Ph33zy said:
Yea I full wiped the other day and didn't install anything EXCEPT Google Wallet and couldn't get it to work. Wallet says tap and pay is setup correctly, but can never authorize a transaction even though my phone beeps and vibrates when it makes a connection with our vending machine. I'm on Badboyz, which is pretty close to stock.
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I get the beep and buzz with android beam but nothing with Google wallet. I need to try another store. I keep trying the same McDonald's. Lol. Maybe I'll goto Starbucks and buy a muffin later. Their coffee taste horrible.
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They just pushed another update to wallet yesterday, maybe it contains bugfixes.
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AaronM7 said:
They just pushed another update to wallet yesterday, maybe it contains bugfixes.
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Yup. I tried with the Google wallet apk update too

Always on, Google now turns itself off often

Hey guys, in the screenshot that setting to have Google always on, keeps turning off but for the love of me I don't know why, any advice?
When I switch from enhanced to basic and back to enhanced again, it does allow me to flip the switch for always on again, but as you can imagine if k have to do that, the whole thing becomes pretty useless, used to work just fine btw :banghead:
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dynamo147 said:
Hey guys, in the screenshot that setting to have Google always on, keeps turning off but for the love of me I don't know why, any advice?
When I switch from enhanced to basic and back to enhanced again, it does allow me to flip the switch for always on again, but as you can imagine if k have to do that, the whole thing becomes pretty useless, used to work just fine btw :banghead:
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update up from 5.1, thats all i could tell you.

Aren't I already as far as Google has gone?
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Or am I misunderstanding ?
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Start with your custom ROM. I am rooted/stock, and no issues with this.

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Or am I misunderstanding ?
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i saw the pa version as 5.1, and missed the other 5.1.1 part. my bad :angel:

Mmm I should try stock again and see if I have the same problem?
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I was having this issue on a few of my favorite custom Roms. I running JDX right now and all is well. It was also good on Sinless ROM.
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Reboot
hate to be that guy, but did you try turning it off then on again?
Worked for me on Nexus 6 stock Android 6.0.1 Google Now version 5.10.32.19.arm

hucknbid said:
hate to be that guy, but did you try turning it off then on again?
Worked for me on Nexus 6 stock Android 6.0.1 Google Now version 5.10.32.19.arm
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Hehe yeah, I actually found a weird sequence of actions that fixed the problems, but since then I've moved onto a different ROM and really haven't had trouble since
found the post on reddit, right here
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/37qjp1/ok_google_fix_for_android_m/