[Q] Battery lasts for 1+ hour at 1% - Moto X Q&A

Hi All,
My battery is lasting for over an hour at 1%. This makes me think that the battery isn't calibrated properly, but the methods I've seen posted for recalibrating my battery haven't worked. Here is what I've tried:
Use phone until it shuts down automatically from low battery
With phone still turned off, charge it until it reaches 100% (about 4 hours)
Turn phone on and use it normally
I've tried doing this method twice in a row, but I'm still having the same issue. I don't remember having this issue when I first bought the phone, although I also made the mistake of not fully charging the phone before I started using it.
Any suggestions for fixing this issue? I don't want to root my phone as I don't have a stable computer (random BSOD) and I'm afraid of bricking it. Thanks!

Lasting an hour on standby.... Or using the phone?
I drain at around 1 percent an hour on standby, and some have even less drain than that.... So if that's mostly stand by you're talking.... It's probably not an issue.
If that's an hour at 1 percent mostly using the phone, then yeah... That ain't right. Lol
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kj2112 said:
Lasting an hour on standby.... Or using the phone?
I drain at around 1 percent an hour on standby, and some have even less drain than that.... So if that's mostly stand by you're talking.... It's probably not an issue.
If that's an hour at 1 percent mostly using the phone, then yeah... That ain't right. Lol
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Lasting an hour while using the phone.

Yeah... That ain't right.
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Any ideas on a fix? I've had the phone for over a month now so I don't think its possible to return it to Verizon at this point.

kdog349 said:
Any ideas on a fix? I've had the phone for over a month now so I don't think its possible to return it to Verizon at this point.
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only thing I could think of, are you rooted? if so, have you made any mods? If not, RSD it back to stock..

If you're getting good battery life I wouldn't worry much about it.
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xpsychox said:
only thing I could think of, are you rooted? if so, have you made any mods? If not, RSD it back to stock..
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I am not rooted. Whats RSD?
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If you're getting good battery life I wouldn't worry much about it.
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My phone has decent battery life, I typically see 2-3hrs SOT. Not sure how people get 5+ hrs.
The main problem is that when my phone gets low battery I never know when its going to die, since it stays at 1% for so long. A little stressful when I'm doing navigation in a new area, so I'd really like to fix it
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Here's a pic of my battery stats that were particularly bad. I think in this one exchange services was eating the battery, but android OS is usually the primary battery consumer.
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Sorry to say, but that's horrible battery life. I'd suggest you read through the battery life thread. Tonnes of stuff there to read and probably help.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
Here it is. I'd read it all when you have the time.
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KJ,
Those pics are unusual usage I would say, but they do illustrate the 1% issue. I'm coming straight from the VZW galaxy nexus so anything over 2hrs SOT seemed awesome to me haha.
Thanks for the tips, I'll check out the thread soon.
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kdog349 said:
I am not rooted. Whats RSD?
My phone has decent battery life, I typically see 2-3hrs SOT. Not sure how people get 5+ hrs.
The main problem is that when my phone gets low battery I never know when its going to die, since it stays at 1% for so long. A little stressful when I'm doing navigation in a new area, so I'd really like to fix it
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If u don't no what red is I wouldn't worry about it... I would try a factory reset on ur phone..
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sometimes it takes your phone one or two cycles to cache up the battery stats. but I would agree that the battery stats file is probably corrupted. i think you might be able to enter the stock recovery mode (without root) and wipe the battery stats. but I'm new to this phone - just talking from prior experiences.

So Sad:crying:

jco23 said:
sometimes it takes your phone one or two cycles to cache up the battery stats. but I would agree that the battery stats file is probably corrupted. i think you might be able to enter the stock recovery mode (without root) and wipe the battery stats. but I'm new to this phone - just talking from prior experiences.
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I looked through the recovery mode and didn't see an option for clearing battery stats.
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Still reading through the battery thread before I make a decision, but it sounds like doing a factory reset might be a good option. Looks like a lot of people are also experiencing high android OS usage.

I'm having the same issue and similar battery stats. I've been on 1% for well over and hour now and never get over 2 hours screen on time.
I've tried several things over the last few days and nothing seems to improve. Curious where you're personally going to go from here. Please keep me updated...

TheBungle said:
I'm having the same issue and similar battery stats. I've been on 1% for well over and hour now and never get over 2 hours screen on time.
I've tried several things over the last few days and nothing seems to improve. Curious where you're personally going to go from here. Please keep me updated...
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Read through the "how's your battery life" thread....tonnes of help already there for battery issues.
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I have. And since I'm having the exact same issue as the OP I would like to see if he finds something that works for him.
edit to add:
I just noticed that Google Keep has had my phone awake for 44m 3s.
That sounds ridiculously abnormal for a note taking app...

Hey Guys,
ever since the 5.1 Update to my Moto X I have been having the same strange bug reported here: Early in the evening it will tell me my battery is about to die (1%) but the phone will still run for hours (not one.... the whole night actually) - see screenshot. This occured together with the famours bug where Android updates its apps if the phone booted while charging. I have of course done a whipe - two times actually. Any idea?

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New Motorola RAZR i battery drains quickly

Hi
I bought the Motorola Razr I yesterday, I been using it all day today.
But the battery is abnormally short. It drops very fast min 10% per hour to 27% per hour. I don't think this is normal for a new phone. The battery temperature is 38°c on normal use.
Am I using the phone wrong or did I get a faulty phone?.
I have nfc on all the time until 23% but after that I turned off nfc to see if that was the problem but it didn't seem to be.
I can get screen captures if needed.
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you need some circles from full to down then you will se the real power.
but the battery with stock rom is not so great as with the custom rom from omar or max.
i dont think your battery is faulty give it some tryes!
and at least you csn not easy change the battery by yourself
regards
xiaokai said:
Hi
I bought the Motorola Razr I yesterday, I been using it all day today.
But the battery is abnormally short. It drops very fast min 10% per hour to 27% per hour. I don't think this is normal for a new phone. The battery temperature is 38°c on normal use.
Am I using the phone wrong or did I get a faulty phone?.
I have nfc on all the time until 23% but after that I turned off nfc to see if that was the problem but it didn't seem to be.
I can get screen captures if needed.
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You might wanna figure out what is actually draining your battery. Search XDA for 'better battery stats' and install it. When your phone is not beeing used it should stay in deep sleep for most of the time, if not, check wakelocks to see whats keeping it from sleeping. For me it was mostly Google Now which caused the drain.
ok so the more i use the battery the better results i may get?
One of the reasons i bought this phone was because of the review on battery life e.g. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/motorola-razr-i-1098183/review/9
Now i have done a wipe of cache and data, did a factory reset. Charged from 10% to 100%. Getting the last few % is hard, this morning i woke up and it was still 99%. Went back after 1 hour to check it was 99% and dropped to 98% while the phone is off and charging.
Once its 100% again i will install the better battery stats as 696 suggested and post my results.
In my pretty long android experience this happens all the time with new phones, after updates.. You can do anything you want (cleaning cache, restart, etc), but it gets finally better by itself after a couple of days.
Don't ask me why, but it works like that.
Battery life of Razr i is excellent, best of all phones (incl iphones) I ever had!
Good luck and have some patience - so simple is that!
Recommended is to charge the new Phone full, before you turn it on the first time. A lil bit patience is needed, but that should help to avoid stuff like this.
And as the Guy above already posted, the battery will calibrate during daily use. It's the same, when you flash or update an Rom. You'll see the "real battery drain" first after a couple of Charges. And don't wipe battery stats in CWM, that's useless.
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And also try disabling Google Now (search for that if you don't know how).
My phone never hits 100% on charve all day stuck at 98 or 99%
jutley said:
My phone never hits 100% on charve all day stuck at 98 or 99%
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I have the same problem phone never gets to 100% it was going to 98% but this morning it was at 97%, thinking of sending it back as it only three weeks old...it should have come right a this stage.
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Did you manage to get to the bottom of the question?
I bought my Razr i 3 weeks ago, I had high expectations about the battery, but the battery only lasts about one day and half, is this normal? I am not a heavy user.
Cheers

Battery lasts REALLY long at 1% battery life?

The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
phositadc said:
The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
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I was doing the same, I watched 3 episodes of Bob's Burgers and it still didn't die.
its an old motorola issue.
i dont know how its for the moto x but for the defy(+) it was pretty bad.
dagoban said:
its an old motorola issue.
i dont know how its for the moto x but for the defy(+) it was pretty bad.
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Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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thepolishguy said:
Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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Better than my HTC Vivid that went 3 percent 2 percent 1 percent DEAD in 5 minutes.
thepolishguy said:
Haha (not 'Haha I'm laughing at you, but, 'Haha it's funny how different people see things differently).
It seems pretty good to me. I never let my phone get down to 1%. I am going to have to resist the innate urge to charge (owning the GNex meant living next to an outlet).
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Hah - Yes -
Coming from the GNex its really difficult to not just plug in the X all the time. I have to keep stopping myself.
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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taappel said:
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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I'm not doubting you but have you, like, used your phone at all?
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taappel said:
I'm on my first charge on the Moto X after switching from the GNex and I still have 80% after 12hrs use. This is insane! My Gnex would have died by now.
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Yeah it's a pretty strong battery.
Also with the 1 percent lasting forever: It's not a bug, it's a reflection of the socio-economic set up of the united states, the 99% die fast, the 1% can pay to live!
I'll shut up now.
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I'm not doubting you but have you, like, used your phone at all?
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Right now I'm at 65% with almost 2hrs of screen time 14hrs total. Not sure how good that is compared to a lot of other phones, but compared to the Gnex it is amazing. I forgot what it was like to not have my phone plugged in all day.
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taappel said:
Right now I'm at 65% with almost 2hrs of screen time 14hrs total. Not sure how good that is compared to a lot of other phones, but compared to the Gnex it is amazing. I forgot what it was like to not have my phone plugged in all day.
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Just saw my Moto X had 65% battery and almost plugged it in thinking it would die soon. The gnex messed my head up.
rman18 said:
Just saw my Moto X had 65% battery and almost plugged it in thinking it would die soon. The gnex messed my head up.
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Same here. I have a plug sitting here and the Moto X next to it and it's so routine to just plug in the GNEX, I want to do the same with the X but I don't have to.
I dont think this is necessarily a bug, I think it takes time for the OS to learn the full scope of the battery - it is always just estimating the charge. I bet after 6 months of use that 1% glitch would go away and you would see more accurate battery reporting. My phone appears to gain %'s when i leave it be after heavy use.
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I dont think this is necessarily a bug, I think it takes time for the OS to learn the full scope of the battery - it is always just estimating the charge. I bet after 6 months of use that 1% glitch would go away and you would see more accurate battery reporting. My phone appears to gain %'s when i leave it be after heavy use.
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Yep same here, phone went from 4% to 7% yesterday when I was trying to make it last. I had turned off Mobile data at 1% battery life yesterday and my phone was dead within 25-30 minutes of being on 1%. I think everyones phone/battery is calibrated differently. With moderate use I'm down to 25-30% left after about 8-9 hours of use. Coming from my S4 I'm so used to being able to Greenify things, I can only imagine what this phone would be like with Greenify.
Same problem
phositadc said:
The other day I was trying to kill my battery, so I let a movie stream from Google Play until it died. It lasted TWO HOURS after the battery hit 1%. Yes, two hours of moving streaming on 1% of battery. See attached screenshot for proof (see the flat line at 1%).
Then, two days ago, I tested again. This time I just let it sit at 1% to see how long it would take to die. It took over 10 hours!! See other screenshot for proof.
Anybody else seeing anything similar? Clearly, when my battery says it is at 1%, it really has about 10-15% battery left.
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My phone is having this exact problem. I get about 10-12 hours battery life down to 1% battery, then it stays on 1% for at least 10-12 more hours. Does anyone know if there is going to be a fix released for this? It messes with my head not knowing when my phone is going to die, and I don't want to charge it if it's not dead. For instance, I'm on 2d 5h 14m on battery and it's been on 1% all day. It's pretty insane. Hope they roll out a fix. Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem.
Next time this happens log your current and voltage readings using current widget so we can see what voltage the battery reads during this flat period at 1%. Then someone could plot the discharge curve in excel. May lead to clues. Perhaps problem with the fuel gauge or battery driver in the kernel. It all depends.
I seem to remember reading that the battery meter tunes itself over the first few charges, and that for the best accuracy you need to run it all the way down then charge it to 100%. 2-3 cycles of this is what was recommended. Can't speak to the validity of it but I know after running it down the first time and seeing the 1% last nearly 2 hours with heavy game use, on the second charge 1% meant 1%.
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I seem to remember reading that the battery meter tunes itself over the first few charges, and that for the best accuracy you need to run it all the way down then charge it to 100%. 2-3 cycles of this is what was recommended. Can't speak to the validity of it but I know after running it down the first time and seeing the 1% last nearly 2 hours with heavy game use, on the second charge 1% meant 1%.
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I'm on my second cycle of running it all the way down now, so we will see after the first 2-3 times if it calibrates itself. If not, i may be bringing my phone back, or ask verizon if they are going to be releasing a fix for it.
Really take it back for that?
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I'm on my second cycle of running it all the way down now, so we will see after the first 2-3 times if it calibrates itself. If not, i may be bringing my phone back, or ask verizon if they are going to be releasing a fix for it.
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kyle1745 said:
Really take it back for that?
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admittedly, probably not. lol. it's just a bit annoying.

Idle drain still a problem?

Is idle drain still a problem after people have rooted and frozen bloat apps? Here is a screen shot of good idle drain from an HTC one mini. 3% in 9 hours.
When I had an X and a Droid Mini, they lost 10-15% in that same time period, despite showing 98% deep sleep in better battery stats. And they were setup exactly the same as the one mini.
Anybody with an X getting anything close to as good as what I posted?
And for those who want to say "who cares," the point is that idle drain overnight is indicative of idle drain during the day. Bad idle drain is a symptom of other problems and poor optimization by Motorola, imo, and it concerns me.
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My idle drain is comparable to what you posted. I went to bed at about midnight with a full charge and now it's 7 and I'm at 98%.
I don't really notice it. I charge overnight and it lasts through the entire day and into the late evenings (8-11pm). When you're getting 5 hours of screen time, I think the optimization is working lol.
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My idle drain is comparable to what you posted. I went to bed at about midnight with a full charge and now it's 7 and I'm at 98%.
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Did you do anything to the qualcom running process like someone else did? I thought we were supposed to leave that one alone. Curious now
rmead01 said:
Did you do anything to the qualcom running process like someone else did? I thought we were supposed to leave that one alone. Curious now
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Nope, haven't touched it. It doesn't give me any issues.
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Nope, haven't touched it. It doesn't give me any issues.
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure my setup is mimicking yours. I do have xposed installed for motoxposed but I'm still on the fence whether it's causing any slow downs or not.
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure my setup is mimicking yours. I do have xposed installed for motoxposed but I'm still on the fence whether it's causing any slow downs or not.
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Are you seeing excessive idle drain? Metal head is about the only person I've seen posting good things about idle drain. I'm tempted to buy another X now that we have root, but seeing 15% drain in 8 or 9 hours of idle just bothers me to no end for some reason.
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Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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I actually tested this and for me it did not make a difference. In fact, turning off active notifications did not affect idle drain either--it was excessive either way.
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Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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Also I would add that I think this problem affects most X owners, even though some (or most) will never notice. The battery threads show that pretty much EVERYBODY has higher than normal android OS use, due to the kernel according to gsam battery monitor. I think that is what's responsible for the drain, and personally I couldn't get it to go down even when I disabled everything. Android OS simply should not be the #2 battery drain behind screen, and it almost universally is on the X and the new Droids.
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Also I would add that I think this problem affects most X owners, even though some (or most) will never notice. The battery threads show that pretty much EVERYBODY has higher than normal android OS use, due to the kernel according to gsam battery monitor. I think that is what's responsible for the drain, and personally I couldn't get it to go down even when I disabled everything. Android OS simply should not be the #2 battery drain behind screen, and it almost universally is on the X and the new Droids.
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My Android OS drain is significantly lower now than it was before I froze everything. We're talking 11% vs 62% for the screen.
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Are you seeing excessive idle drain? Metal head is about the only person I've seen posting good things about idle drain. I'm tempted to buy another X now that we have root, but seeing 15% drain in 8 or 9 hours of idle just bothers me to no end for some reason.
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Nope, just always looking at finding better batt life. Last avg was 0.7% drain overnight. Just did a complete reinstall of the OS, root, and freeze. Going to see what happens tonight. Also hoping my moto assist starts working.
Is your wifi & mobile network access enabled under location access? That also causes drain, seemingly constantly. As far as I know, that is a bug with Google services and isn't unique to the X, but most prevalent in 4.2+ devices.
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Is your wifi & mobile network access enabled under location access? That also causes drain, seemingly constantly. As far as I know, that is a bug with Google services and isn't unique to the X, but most prevalent in 4.2+ devices.
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always. If I turn this off google now and anything else that needs GPS stops functioning. takes too long to get a gps lock without.

Is the battery gauge mis-calibrated on the motox

I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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I've noticed it on a rather old device, a htc desire hd. (running a custom 4.4.2 rom) It lastest so long on 1%.
Probarly you need to re-calibrate your battery, after that it shouldn't get stuck on 1% anymore for such a long time
Jamolah said:
I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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Once a month I recalibrate my battery, and it will sit on 1% for hours some times, and then only minutes the next it just depends. Just let it die then charge it to 100% uninterrupted. Normally they get uncalibrated after rom flashes and if you put it on a charger but don't let it charge to 100%.
I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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iKrYpToNiTe said:
Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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oeusr said:
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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Hmm that's odd never had that issue, I rarely go below 50% during the day.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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It is if you do it every time, but not if you do it once a month or after a rom install.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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danny39 said:
When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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This article is old but it explains why you shouldn't fully discharge a lithium-ion battery often! http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
jayboyyyy said:
batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
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I couldn't have paraphrased that article any better nice!
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
Wutang200 said:
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
I've experienced the same thing on my Moto X.
Something tells me that it's somehow related to poor battery life... But that's just expeculation.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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jakereeves31 said:
I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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ya like i said earlier, i also did read that deleting that folder was pointless but who knows. If my phone was continuing to do what yours is then i would be trying all sorts of things that people said wouldn't work. Then i would throw the phone into beer, bc i can, bc this thing is pretty much waterproof as anything. SOmebody submerged the thing in water for 30 minutes and it was still running. So maybe throw your phone in beer as a last resort.

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So now that we've all had a chance to run 5.1 for a while, how do you guys compare the droid turbo battery life on lollipop vs kitkat?
I get better battery with KitKat. Maybe I just need to run it longer to break it in. I used to unplug my phone at 9 AM and plug it in at 11PM with 20% left and 4 hour screen. With lolipop, I had to plug it in now at 6PM with 30% battery and 2.5 SOT.
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That's what I figured myself... I've been getting slightly worse battery with 5.1 but my friend swears he's been getting a better battery life on lollipop
I too get a slightly worse, or at least no slightest improvement of, battery life. Of course I have only unplugged the phone the first time after upgrading for a few hours so it is just my impression, but my usage pattern is just the same as I did yesterday.
Much better on Lollipop for me.
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I'm getting slightly worse.
I'm gonna give it a week and if it doesn't get better I'm gonna try a factory reset.
My battery life is much better than it was on KK.
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Only a day off use for me, but seems to be the same
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5 hours 10 minutes screen on time at 18% battery.
I'm actually getting a lot better battery life. Im ending the day right now with around 60% and on KK I would typically be down to around 15% at this time. However I had particularly bad battery life on KK
About 3 1/2 hours on screen time and I'm at 34% battery. A bit of an improvement for me versus KitKat.
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Battery life is horrible on LP. KK had better battery. what can we do?
ankurcshah said:
Battery life is horrible on LP. KK had better battery. what can we do?
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Factory reset, and/or look at your battery drain. As posted by others we are getting better life post update, so it's not the LP itself that is causing the issue but something hanging on your phone causing it.
May I ask whether it is normal for Google Play Services to stay awake for nearly the entire period since unplugged? If not, what can I do before factory reset?
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May I ask whether it is normal for Google Play Services to stay awake for nearly the entire period since unplugged? If not, what can I do before factory reset?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/google-play-services-battery-drain-t3083672 helped
I've read that. Does the upgrading of 5.1.1 make any difference?
I haven't noticed any difference. The phone has stayed in the 20-30% range when i get home in the afternoon from work.
I'm getting worse battery and Google services is now the top battery user in my list.....
Google play services is the 4th on mine. Top of the list, right below screen, is Android OS. I find that as long as I disable apps I don't use my battery is pretty good. Unplugged it around 9am and I'm at 63%.
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Mine feels a little worse.. But I've probably been using the phone more than before. It's like a new toy.
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