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Finally A Comparative Tegra 2 Device (DROID Bionic) Quadrant Test (Youtube Video)

Hi friends, I saw this and knew it would be of interest here. This is a Youtube video of Quadrant being run on a DROID Bionic. It ends up scoring a 2284, which is right in line with what the geniuses here are getting out of thier amazing ROMs and kernels (from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for all your work - all of you - there's too many too name). That 2284 is nothing compared to those 3100+ scores being achieved by that data2loop hack (which I haven't tried myself yet). All this without overclocking yet!? Man, these Tegra 2 devices are just animals!!! I am so glad mine is 100% unlocked (I don't believe this feature is listed on the XOOM ;-) ). Here's the video:
EDIT: The system would not let me post a link because I apparantly haven't posted enough posts yet. My apologies. At any rate, the video can currently be found on Androidandme dot com's home page.
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deep_powder2012 said:
Hi friends, I saw this and knew it would be of interest here. This is a Youtube video of Quadrant being run on a DROID Bionic. It ends up scoring a 2284, which is right in line with what the geniuses here are getting out of thier amazing ROMs and kernels (from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for all your work - all of you - there's too many too name). That 2284 is nothing compared to those 3100+ scores being achieved by that data2loop hack (which I haven't tried myself yet). All this without overclocking yet!? Man, these Tegra 2 devices are just animals!!! I am so glad mine is 100% unlocked (I don't believe this feature is listed on the XOOM ;-) ). Here's the video:
EDIT: The system would not let me post a link because I apparantly haven't posted enough posts yet. My apologies. At any rate, the video can currently be found on Androidandme dot com's home page.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Gva4iqsjqqE

The Omap processors are pretty beastly. Optimus 3D

thed0cb said:
The Omap processors are pretty beastly. Optimus 3D
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Optimus 3D has a Tegra 2 3D processor.....
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The hardware is great but the software is crap.
Motoblur is the worst skin ever. I played around with my friend's Droid X and it lagged like crazy even though it was not supposed to and with moto's locked boot loader policy, I have to pass this phone up.

I'm afraid I agree with you 100%. However, with a Tegra 2, Motoblur shouldn't lag the device. That said though, Motorola should just not plague thier products with it, period. Keep a little faith though, there's still a chance that the bootloader is unlocked on the Bionic. If it is, I'm definitely picking one up.
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UberMario said:
The hardware is great but the software is crap.
Motoblur is the worst skin ever. I played around with my friend's Droid X and it lagged like crazy even though it was not supposed to and with moto's locked boot loader policy, I have to pass this phone up.
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There has been an official announcement that the Bionic will be 100% open source and made for devs. Bootloader will be unlocked.
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markalyea2 said:
There has been an official announcement that the Bionic will be 100% open source and made for devs. Bootloader will be unlocked.
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I call complete and utter bull. If it would have been any Moto phone, it would have been the Atrix. Verizon would never allow an open device on their network. Also, the Android blogs would've been all over it. Not cool man, my heart lept a bit before I had a chance to think.

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There has been an official announcement that the Bionic will be 100% open source and made for devs. Bootloader will be unlocked.
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Can you show where you saw this?

markalyea2 said:
There has been an official announcement that the Bionic will be 100% open source and made for devs. Bootloader will be unlocked.
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I call BS unless you produce a link!

There has been an official announcement that the bootloader has been locked and that if you try tampering with it, the device will enter self destruct mode and blow up with the force of a small nuclear explosion because moto hates you so bad that they not only want to take out you, but anyone within a 5 mile radius of you that might have been influenced by your decision to mess with the allmighty blur!!! Look, I can do that too.

deep_powder2012 said:
Optimus 3D has a Tegra 2 3D processor.....
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No, it has a TI OMAP 4430
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_3d_p920-3759.php

deep_powder2012 said:
Hi friends, I saw this and knew it would be of interest here. This is a Youtube video of Quadrant being run on a DROID Bionic. It ends up scoring a 2284, which is right in line with what the geniuses here are getting out of thier amazing ROMs and kernels (from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for all your work - all of you - there's too many too name). That 2284 is nothing compared to those 3100+ scores being achieved by that data2loop hack (which I haven't tried myself yet). All this without overclocking yet!? Man, these Tegra 2 devices are just animals!!! I am so glad mine is 100% unlocked (I don't believe this feature is listed on the XOOM ;-) ). Here's the video:
EDIT: The system would not let me post a link because I apparantly haven't posted enough posts yet. My apologies. At any rate, the video can currently be found on Androidandme dot com's home page.
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Remember Cyanogen and many other roms do a filesystem hack to artificially boost your scores. An unreleased phone scoring 2284 without any hacks that fake the score is pretty awesome.
I find it pretty silly people are willing to run hacks like the data2loop or filesystem hack with no real-world performance increase except in certain instances like running a synthetic benchmark.
Unless you know for a fact that your flavor of rom isn't hacked (version 5.1 of the Vegan tab rom on the gtablet I'm pretty sure is not), then it's pretty pointless to compare your scores to an unmodified device.
Curt941 said:
No, it has a TI OMAP 4430
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_3d_p920-3759.php
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Yup. Very similar to the Tegra2 SoC except it runs an inferior GPU.
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Optimus 3D has a Tegra 2 3D processor.....
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Tegra2 3D isn't available yet to my knowledge, definitely not ready for a Q1 or Q2 release on a device.

Curt941 said:
No, it has a TI OMAP 4430
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_3d_p920-3759.php
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Yikes! Sorry, my info. was from an article I read at the time CES was occurring. Apparantly the article was misinformed.
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modal realism said:
Remember Cyanogen and many other roms do a filesystem hack to artificially boost your scores. An unreleased phone scoring 2284 without any hacks that fake the score is pretty awesome.
I find it pretty silly people are willing to run hacks like the data2loop or filesystem hack with no real-world performance increase except in certain instances like running a synthetic benchmark.
Unless you know for a fact that your flavor of rom isn't hacked (version 5.1 of the Vegan tab rom on the gtablet I'm pretty sure is not), then it's pretty pointless to compare your scores to an unmodified device.
Just for the record, I DID NOT and HAVE NOT run the data2loop or filesystem hacks (nor am I running CM). You did read my original post, yes? Also, for the record, my quadrant score comes in at 2400 - 2500 (and it IS completely relevant to compare that score to the Bionic's).
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Yeah, I would also like to see a source link on the bionic being unlocked... I think I would die of joy...
And verizon has the droid 1 which has a unlocked bootloader and is full of love...

Damn_Smooth said:
There has been an official announcement that the bootloader has been locked and that if you try tampering with it, the device will enter self destruct mode and blow up with the force of a small nuclear explosion because moto hates you so bad that they not only want to take out you, but anyone within a 5 mile radius of you that might have been influenced by your decision to mess with the allmighty blur!!! Look, I can do that too.
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Damn_Smooth - I believe that one entirely.

(Request) Samsung galaxy note multi-window feature port

Any chance some enterprising dev could get this running on our nexus 7's
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/
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That would be cool if they could, but I'm guessing this is deeply integrated into Touch wiz.
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Umm .. *cough* *cough* Cornerstone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc
It's open source. Roman made an ICS/AOKP/Cornerstone build a long time ago ... felt it was too buggy to continue.
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AOKP got this request recently.
Seems a Cornerstone build would be the only way out...which is unlikely.

I'm fully aware this would probably be quite difficult to port, and likely quite time consuming.
Having said that, I also want this. It makes so much more sense on a 7 inch tablet then a 5 inch whatever.

This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.

khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Running 2 apps at the same time. Seems like a great idea to me. It supports a limited amount of apps, but unlike Galaxy Note 10.1, you could probably hack in other apps to work.

khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...

This would be *nice* to have but I don't know how much easier it would be then to just multitasking between 2 apps now and having the apps full screen. I can see some of the benefits like watching a youtube video while chatting on Google Talk. There are some good alternatives such as popup video players and notepads that overlay on top of current app and typically are resizable and movable.
While it makes sense this would be better on a 7" then a 5"... it really would be best on a 10". 7" barely gives me enough breathing room for 1 app. Plus most of the "compatible apps" are simple things like a calculator and notes

Well it seems VERY useful to me.
It's better than popup apps in my opinion - more app options.

Overscreen browser is a great alternative for now
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No, it's not.
This allows multiple apps to run side by side, Overskreen is just the browser. Also, it's not even compatible with Jelly Bean, so no one who owns a Nexus 7 can use it.

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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
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No, as I said, handful of specific Google apps. Read up on it. Will the list grow? Maybe? I'd have to guess it is a sdk used to support the function, is it worth app dev time to do it and possibly maintain multiple versions of their app?

more then google apps
Not just google apps can do this on the samsung note 10.1 .
samsng snote and lecture app
browser
vidoe player
picture gallery
polaris office
Photo shop (special note version)
I think there a few others that are on the samsung web app store. Samsung sbe adding apps to this.
Now for the bubble burst. The reason they work on the galaxy note is the new QUAD Core cpu and 2 GB Very fast ram .. samsung tried to release a less ram/power version of the 10.1 note with a higer res display. they backed the display down and increased the cpu//ram. this is also to support the WACOM S PEN..
I have been reading alot about the device because mine will be here Monday. So the above if from my reading and research. I can update you more mid next week.. I do not see a need for split windows on a 7 inch screen .. get the overscreen browser and try it.. JUST Does not work for productive work...
Hope this help make it more understandable... too bad samsung did not make the n7 . i give up because of the screen issues sent two of them back and will NOT order a 3rd...

Dude. Overskreen DOES NOT work on Jelly Bean. And it is just one app, vs an entire suite of Google Apps.
Also there's no need for window management.
Nexus 7 has a quad-core processor too, just less RAM - which isn't even a problem, it still can handle side by side apps.
And you're telling some weird stuff here. We are talking about Galaxy Note 2, which allows more apps, and works better. AND it works on a 5 inch screen, so it'll be awesome on a seven inch.
So yeah, please don't come back with your 'research' to tell us that you think that this feature is unnecessary.

i hope sincerely as a dev can make a mod for port this feature in future beacause it's very usefull even if work only with google apps it's better ,
anyone know if a moded youtube apps existing for play a video on background because i search since 3 month but not find ?
thx

I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking

While i would love to have or port this it simply isnt possible, it requires a lot of changing to the frameworks and it would be hard to decompile all of samsungs sources and extract it.

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I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
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Stock android not, but there are a few roms with cornerstone, i think mainly on 10 inch tablets.

Web os did this kinda on a dual core wish android would absorb that multitasking feature right now running multiple apps kinda is a hit and miss
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i freakin HATE 4.2

Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment, things generally run a bit slower, the lock screen is buggy and Quickoffice can no longer save changes to files. Not exactly a forward step.

Same here buddy, lockscreen takes a long time to respond
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I hate it when folks feel the need to start their own topic when there are 100 similar ones that would do.
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Are you sure you turned off automatic brightness?

Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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blackhand1001 said:
Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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If it was really a bad update, why doesn't it affect everyone? I have a stock locked tablet, and simply flashed Google's factory image.. No issue whatsoever!
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I have almost only good experiences with the 4.2, generally feel more stable and haven't noticed any sluggish behaviour. Only problem Im having is with bluetooth, it won't remember profile selections for my paired devices. So everytime I connect to my phone for internet access I need to go and tick internet access under profiles

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The majority of people come here for solid technical advice, and some of this discussion hardly inspires confidence. We also need confidence in Google as we have invested in their product and it is perfectly legitimate to raise concerns about the 4.2 update that they pushed to our devices
If you use Bluetooth, for example to tether, then you will have been thrown by the changes to the interface. It was not obvious how to connect, and is actually quite inconsistent in that clicking the device name disconnects which is different to what's needed to connect.
One of the advantages the Nexus has over the Mini is the 16:10 screen great for widescreen movies. It's no surprise then that loss of USB mount (a feature available when many of us decided to buy the Nexus) has hit us hard. Yes there is a paid App which might allow movie streaming but I use the USB to extend storage for the huge game files we must download and so this is a major loss.

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l suppose google Should be the first stop, I'm sure they will be happy with the feedback.
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I cant believe its not butter :/
On a serious note. I am yet to face any problems with 4.2. I like it alot. Battery life is great, keyboard is great and quick settings i love.
Just like 4.1.2 but with extras
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stevensdrs said:
Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment, things generally run a bit slower, the lock screen is buggy and Quickoffice can no longer save changes to files. Not exactly a forward step.
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Screen brightness is an isolated issue I suspect not caused directly by Android, as most people don't see it.
Everything runs just as fast as 4.1.
Quick Office has a coding problem, not Android.
Stop.
I have only seen 1 real bug in 4.2 and that's the missing December bug.

GldRush98 said:
Screen brightness is an isolated issue I suspect not caused directly by Android, as most people don't see it.
Everything runs just as fast as 4.1.
Quick Office has a coding problem, not Android.
Stop.
I have only seen 1 real bug in 4.2 and that's the missing December bug.
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It is most certainly NOT as fast for me, just because it is ok on your device please don't assume everyone else's is the same!

I actually love 4.2. A little lag here and there, but I owned a Huawei Ascend with like a 500 mHz processor, a Samsung Sidekick 4G with a 1 gHz processor, and a Kindle fire. Seriously Google isn't perfect (but they are damn close) they released an update you don't like, does that mean you should cry and hit the new thread button? No, it means you should just flash 4.1.2 and save server space. Especially when there are 100 other topics exactly as useless as yours. We don't need more of them.

blackhand1001 said:
Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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Clearly you and other folk unhappy with 4.2 should IMMEDIATELY upgrade to Windows Mojave. It will solve all your concerns. Pinky swear!!!

stevensdrs said:
Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment
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Disable Nvidia PRISM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815414

android1234567 said:
Disable Nvidia PRISM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815414
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Has nothing to do with Prism, the heuristics on the backlight seems to allow it to ramp up and down faster than it did before. In fact before the N7 seemed to be very stubborn to change levels, now it's a little too fast perhaps.

No matter what version or ROM I'm using I don't use automatic brightness. I use the lowest setting and adjust when I need to.
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Hating it and loving it ? - wow these are strong words for an OS. Just like W8 people just can't work out whether its the cool thing to be for it or against it yet even though there's no need to take sides or feel possessive about it - we're all here just users equally dependant upon the working of Google aren't we?
One sure thing though - bugs will iron out but things like the way Bluetooth works now and the loss of USB mount are major hits for those of use dependant on those features for the last 4 months.

USB mounting was never part of 4.1... why are people suggesting it was? You needed root and stickmount or a custom ROM.
Stickmount will update eventually. Stop blaming Google for breaking something they never supported in the first place.
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[Q] xbmc uses only one core

hey guys
i was experimenting with xbmc a bit, tried several versions (no-neon and full-neon's) but all versions are using only one core. and this makes even the music playback completely laggy, not to say unhearable...
so my question: has anyone of you found a version or a trick to make it work the way it's meant to work?
what i also experienced, sometimes all four cores are active, but then their clock speed drops to 475 MHz and it's still completely laggy...
thanks in advance
PS: i do know that there is another thread about xbmc from january, but due to all the trouble i had about reopening an old thread, i opened a new one here

Never heard of it before reading your thread and I have it a shot straight away. Downloaded the source file from xbmc.org/download and installed it. I was expecting some lags, but it played any file I threw at it flawlessly both video and audio. It was on the phone storage though, still learning how to stream it from my home network.
Anyway, is it the same xbmc we're talking about? Is the player or only the remote?
Attached are some screen shot of it
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yeah, i mean the "real" app (--> player). but i see you're on the JB leak, i was talking about the (official) ICS. so all i can see until now, LG did quite a good job, regarding performance (also looking at html5). so i guess the waiting is worth it

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yeah, i mean the "real" app (--> player). but i see you're on the JB leak, i was talking about the (official) ICS. so all i can see until now, LG did quite a good job, regarding performance (also looking at html5). so i guess the waiting is worth it
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Yep, I'm on JB. However, in xbmc website FAQ, it says O4X running on ICS is compatible with the app, though they also mention that this app isn't official yet, so they tell us to expect some lags and bugs.
Btw, I tried installing the app in my Android HD set top box running on GB 2.3.4, with 1 Ghz ARM 7 processor and 512 MB RAM. Damn, the apps ran as slow as my grandma. The device is really cheap though ($59 or something, China made) I finally end up using the good old MX Player.
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hernestwisnu said:
Yep, I'm on JB. However, in xbmc website FAQ, it says O4X running on ICS is compatible with the app, though they also mention that this app isn't official yet, so they tell us to expect some lags and bugs.
Btw, I tried installing the app in my Android HD set top box running on GB 2.3.4, with 1 Ghz ARM 7 processor and 512 MB RAM. Damn, the apps ran as slow as my grandma. The device is really cheap though ($59 or something, China made) I finally end up using the good old MX Player.
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i know, it also runs on ICS but just not the way it should
i also use the MX Player usually, but i tried it on my droid because of the beautiful UI. well, so it's PC-only for now

Question.

Hello guys
I wonder why some apps are not compatible with my i9000
example real racing 3, you only need 2.3 or higher in facts i9000 has 2.3.6
so why i cant play this game?
there are thousand more i can't play but my android is still higher than its required.
:/
thanks in advance.

Some apps including real racing 3 are marked as not compatible for some phones , not because of the android version , but because the developers consider that those apps won't work well or won't work at all on some phones. Real racing 3 if you get the apk from somewhere else, works fine for most of the time with very rare lags for a second or two on i9000. I've requested on Google Play that I would like EA to add i9000 for that game as a compatible device but still no respond
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Really interestign that some apps, still work on i9000 but not marked as compatible in google play ...
idCyber said:
Some apps including real racing 3 are marked as not compatible for some phones , not because of the android version , but because the developers consider that those apps won't work well or won't work at all on some phones. Real racing 3 if you get the apk from somewhere else, works fine for most of the time with very rare lags for a second or two on i9000. I've requested on Google Play that I would like EA to add i9000 for that game as a compatible device but still no respond
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Really interestign that some apps, still work on i9000 but not marked as compatible in google play ...
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I totally agree and I hate the fact that the devs refuse to add devices that have proof with video on YouTube that the app works great on a device and they should add it as compatible. But we can't do anything if they ignore that and we have to live with it and get the apk from some other source.
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idCyber said:
I totally agree and I hate the fact that the devs refuse to add devices that have proof with video on YouTube that the app works great on a device and they should add it as compatible. But we can't do anything if they ignore that and we have to live with it and get the apk from some other source.
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Sometimes its because developers also limit availability based on specs - Firefox browser (a bit of a moot point because it works on almost every device) and PvZ 2 are examples of this - some devices don't have access to these apps because the developers believe that in terms of a general viewpoint, these devices won't be able to run it.
So even though Real Racing 3 does apparently work almost flawlessly on the S, its partly beacuse the game devs think that the S doesn't have the specs to run it.
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Soryuu said:
Sometimes its because developers also limit availability based on specs - Firefox browser (a bit of a moot point because it works on almost every device) and PvZ 2 are examples of this - some devices don't have access to these apps because the developers believe that in terms of a general viewpoint, these devices won't be able to run it.
So even though Real Racing 3 does apparently work almost flawlessly on the S, its partly beacuse the game devs think that the S doesn't have the specs to run it.
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I've said the same thing.

I understand what you say, but i can`T understand it ...but as you said, we have to live with it ...
MAybe it is all for the way to sell many new devices and make money ...i don`t know
idCyber said:
I totally agree and I hate the fact that the devs refuse to add devices that have proof with video on YouTube that the app works great on a device and they should add it as compatible. But we can't do anything if they ignore that and we have to live with it and get the apk from some other source.
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