I'm trying to get S-Off on my One with rumrunner, but nothing seems to be working, i've tried several stock rom's , also Custom roms , several insecure kernels. But none seem to be working. I'm currently on:
HBOOT: 1.55
CID: T-MOB101
ROM: 2.24.111.3
This Stock ROM at least gives shell requests, and keeps pouring till >8 and repeats if i restart.
Support would be greatly appriciated, have already spent 15 hours for S-Off with no succes.
Thanks
Gixy said:
I'm trying to get S-Off on my One with rumrunner, but nothing seems to be working, i've tried several stock rom's , also Custom roms , several insecure kernels. But none seem to be working. I'm currently on:
HBOOT: 1.55
CID: T-MOB101
ROM: 2.24.111.3
This Stock ROM at least gives shell requests, and keeps pouring till >8 and repeats if i restart.
Support would be greatly appriciated, have already spent 15 hours for S-Off with no succes.
Thanks
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hboot is 1.55, but ROM is 2.24??
please post a "fastboot getvar all" (remove IMEI and s/n)
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.55.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 4A.22.3263.03
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main:
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) serialno: ############
(bootloader) imei: ################
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m7_ul
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064
(bootloader) modelid: PN0710000
(bootloader) cidnum: T-MOB101
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4297mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-d2906a15
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
Gixy said:
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.55.0000
(bootloader) cidnum: T-MOB101
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this seems to be the bad combination for alot of folks in the Rumrunner thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487888&page=55
Gixy said:
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.55.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 4A.22.3263.03
(bootloader) version-main:
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) product: m7_ul
(bootloader) modelid: PN0710000
(bootloader) cidnum: T-MOB101
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
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oh, very uncool, no firmware version.
hboot 1.55 would lead me to assume a 3.xx firmware, so try using ARHD 31.6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
(it's rooted, and unsecured kernel)
if you're still having trouble with rumrunner, maybe give Ubuntu a shot, seems to be working, eg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567727
nkk71 said:
oh, very uncool, no firmware version.
hboot 1.55 would lead me to assume a 3.xx firmware, so try using ARHD 31.6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
(it's rooted, and unsecured kernel)
if you're still having trouble with rumrunner, maybe give Ubuntu a shot, seems to be working, eg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567727
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I have tried ARHD 31.6 also, no succes ;(
Got ABD , fastboot & HTC drivers installed correctly.
clsA said:
this seems to be the bad combination for alot of folks in the Rumrunner thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487888&page=55
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Gixy said:
I have tried ARHD 31.6 also, no succes ;(
Got ABD , fastboot & HTC drivers installed correctly.
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maybe @clsA is right.
if it was me, and i (really) wanted to do it, i would go for an Ubuntu Live USB, and give it a shot. (if at first you dont succeed try, try again)
nkk71 said:
maybe @clsA is right.
if it was me, and i (really) wanted to do it, i would go for an Ubuntu Live USB, and give it a shot. (if at first you dont succeed try, try again)
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Are there any threads about running Rumrunner on Ubentu?
I've already got Ubuntu installed on other hard drive, and can boot it up right now.
But i'm quite new to ubuntu, couldn't get ADB drivers working for my One.
But managed to startup soju xD. Am not getting ADB connection
Is there some thread about Rumrunner ubuntu ?
Thanks for all your support though !
Gixy said:
Are there any threads about running Rumrunner on Ubentu?
I've already got Ubuntu installed on other hard drive, and can boot it up right now.
But i'm quite new to ubuntu, couldn't get ADB drivers working for my One.
But managed to startup soju xD. Am not getting ADB connection
Is there some thread about Rumrunner ubuntu ?
Thanks for all your support though !
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have you checked the instructions for the rumrunner Linux package: http://rumrunner.us/instructions/
and best to use 32bit Ubuntu (from what I recall) not 64.
let us know how it goes.
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Gixy said:
But i'm quite new to ubuntu, couldn't get ADB drivers working for my One.
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Sorry, my bad thought you said "could get adb working", look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560130
nkk71 said:
have you checked the instructions for the rumrunner Linux package: http://rumrunner.us/instructions/
and best to use 32bit Ubuntu (from what I recall) not 64.
let us know how it goes.
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Sorry, my bad thought you said "could get adb working", look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560130
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Iḿ saying ADB drivers on windows are fine, I´ve just tried linux, and end up in Pouring... 8
Gonna give Rumrunner another try.
Gixy said:
Iḿ saying ADB drivers on windows are fine, I´ve just tried linux, and end up in Pouring... 8
Gonna give Rumrunner another try.
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32bit ubuntu seems to work better that 64, just in case, good luck
nkk71 said:
32bit ubuntu seems to work better that 64, just in case, good luck
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I just created one for myself here on a 4GB Kingston Flashdrive
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
Using linux, running ARHD 31.1 iḿ not getting Shell-requests at all :s
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I just created one for myself here on a 4GB Kingston Flashdrive
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
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still downloading (for 40 minutes) another 10 minutes...
nkk71 said:
still downloading (for 40 minutes) another 10 minutes...
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Linux doesn't work for me as well, another 2x pouring... 8
Using ARHD 31.6 and tried stock as well
nkk71 said:
still downloading (for 40 minutes) another 10 minutes...
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lol i booted it and installed rumrunner 10 min ago
Gixy said:
Linux doesn't work for me as well, another 2x pouring... 8
Using ARHD 31.6 and tried stock as well
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well, crap!!
have you tried 41.0? ... I know this is getting sh*tty, but some combination should work... have you checked in rumrunner thread, and see if someone had the same issue with solution.
clsA said:
lol i booted it and installed rumrunner 10 min ago
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Why install Ubuntu and Rumrunner, you're already S-Off or am i wrong xD
nkk71 said:
well, crap!!
have you tried 41.0? ... I know this is getting sh*tty, but some combination should work... have you checked in rumrunner thread, and see if someone had the same issue with solution.
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I've checked the thread, Tried some solutions : Several stock roms , some of them SHOWED Shell requests, other just rebooted a few times . 31.6 Doesn't show shell requests, lookedup SuperSU settings, tried requesting root acces, and simply granting all acces. Also checked with RootChecker, root seems to be fine.
41.0 Was my daily driver for a month, this was my first try with Rumrunner, which failed, no shell requests.
EDIT: I'm gonna give 41.0 another try, didn't tried linux with that one. But i don't expect much difference honestly xD
Gixy said:
Why install Ubuntu and Rumrunner, you're already S-Off or am i wrong xD
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practice ...i work on others phone's
this is from the link I posted
Quote:
Originally Posted by maspro View Post
Woohoo, I'm a happy person right now.
I made a partition dump of my phone according to this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2488772 and provided some additional information about my specific configuration and send it to the Rumrunner devs to see if it was possible to add support for S-OFF. After some emailing back and forth the last couple of days, I agreed to accept the risks and be a test case to see if it was possible to S-OFF my device, since my firmware was to new to make use of the existing exploits Rumrunner 0.5.0 is using. So we had a remote session together..... and a couple of minutes later my phone was S-OFF.
Don't ask me what the devs did, I looked at the adb screen, saw lots of commands and screen output flying around, but for the most part didn't understand it... Anyway my phone is still alive and I'm S-OFF.
Thx devs and I also made a donation (1HE93648R1560915F)!
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Related
hi, I am trying to s-off my htc one according to these instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
When it comes to entering the command "./revone -P" I receive error code 1 (note: not -1).
Rebooting and going through the steps does not help. I've searched everywhere and cannot find a resolution in regards to this error code. Any help would be super appreciated. Thanks
Are you rooted & running the commands in 'su' mode?
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
mattjcl said:
hi, I am trying to s-off my htc one according to these instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
When it comes to entering the command "./revone -P" I receive error code 1 (note: not -1).
Rebooting and going through the steps does not help. I've searched everywhere and cannot find a resolution in regards to this error code. Any help would be super appreciated. Thanks
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Which hboot version do you have?
redbull123 said:
Which hboot version do you have?
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hboot version 1.44. phone is rooted :s
mattjcl said:
hboot version 1.44. phone is rooted :s
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I'm running into the same problem. Nothing I've seen seems to help. Rooted, and on hboot version 1.44 as well.
Try, try, and try some more. Its a developers preview of an exploit. It doesn't work every time and sometimes take multiple attempts. Just keep trying.
AT&T HTC One
Baadnewz's InsertCoin 3.0-14
Flar2's Bulletproof 4.3
Nothing I've tried is working for me. In my searching though I did find that T-Mobile phones are suspected to have had an update that patches the exploit. It doesn't bump the hboot number, but seems to prevent the current version of revone from working. Apparently it was an OTA update but new phones seem to be shipping with it.
For now I'll keep trying periodically, and hope someone discovers a workaround.
old:The sam Issue here with HBoot-1.44.0000 | revone v0.2.1
Originally Posted by designgears View Post
You need to be on a stock sense rom. Just make sure you don't flash an RUU with 1.54.
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That's correct. With Stock 4.3 revone -P will bring Error code = 1
just flashed back too this http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2183023 and now revone works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45094440#post45094440
sr20vet said:
Nothing I've tried is working for me. In my searching though I did find that T-Mobile phones are suspected to have had an update that patches the exploit. It doesn't bump the hboot number, but seems to prevent the current version of revone from working. Apparently it was an OTA update but new phones seem to be shipping with it.
For now I'll keep trying periodically, and hope someone discovers a workaround.
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If you're on T-Mobile, you could try the following downgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45053094&postcount=5219
Seems to have worked for quite a few.
nkk71 said:
If you're on T-Mobile, you could try the following downgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45053094&postcount=5219
Seems to have worked for quite a few.
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Worked for me too, just successfully got s-off with revone. Thanks a lot! Counter to the instructions I did have to run the downgrader from fastboot not the home screen.
sr20vet said:
Worked for me too, just successfully got s-off with revone. Thanks a lot! Counter to the instructions I did have to run the downgrader from fastboot not the home screen.
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:thumbup:
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
I had the exact same error, I think it's to do with trying revone on 4.3. I'm in the process of downloading the downgrader and will report back to see if I can get revone to run!
EDIT: The way I solved it was to avoid a 4.3 rom, so I went back and reflashed Android Revolution 13.3 and then tried the steps and it worked absolutely fine, then reflashed the latest Android Revolution 20 4.3 rom and everything was fine, hope that helps anyone else!
Follow the steps in this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4BWxtjaamM
mattjcl said:
hi, I am trying to s-off my htc one according to these instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
When it comes to entering the command "./revone -P" I receive error code 1 (note: not -1).
Rebooting and going through the steps does not help. I've searched everywhere and cannot find a resolution in regards to this error code. Any help would be super appreciated. Thanks
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I am having the same problem... Please help me out someont. Thanks in advance...
dipal_roy said:
I am having the same problem... Please help me out someont. Thanks in advance...
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wha tis the output of "fastboot getvar all" ?
alray said:
wha tis the output of "fastboot getvar all" ?
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version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000
version-baseband: 1.24.21331147A1.09G
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main:
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
serialno: HT452WM03802
imei: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
imei2: Not Support
meid: 00000000000000
product: m8_ul
platform: hTCBmsm8974
modelid: 0P6B65000
cidnum: HTC__038
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 0mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: 3aa067db
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
I just need to s-off my device............. Thats all. Thanks in advance
dipal_roy said:
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 3.19.0.0000
version-baseband: 1.24.21331147A1.09G
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main:
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
serialno: HT452WM03802
imei: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
imei2: Not Support
meid: 00000000000000
product: m8_ul
platform: hTCBmsm8974
modelid: 0P6B65000
cidnum: HTC__038
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 0mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: 3aa067db
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
I just need to s-off my device............. Thats all. Thanks in advance
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Revone is for htc one M7 hboot 1.44
Your phone isn't a M7..
sunshine is what you need
and M8 forum here
Hey Guys,
I want to make my HTC ONE a Google Play Edtioin, so.I am currently trying to make my HTC ONE (international) S-Off with Soju. i hae USB- Debugging turned on, my Bottloader is unlocked and my phone is rooted.
Everytime i try to run soju i get this Erreor:
Checking for updates......
Test 1: Rebooting into bootloader
Waiting for fastboot (7/120)
Waiting
Test 2: Booting device
Waiting for ADB (16/120)
must ferment longer...
must sanitize, skunky rum is nasty
hold please..............................................
[------------------------------------------------------------]
Rebooting into bootloader (again)
Waiting for fastboot (7/120)
FATAL: Download updated package at www.rumrunner.us
Press ENTER to exit
Does anyone know how to fix this?
Fabivons said:
Hey Guys,
I want to make my HTC ONE a Google Play Edtioin, so.I am currently trying to make my HTC ONE (international) S-Off with Soju. i hae USB- Debugging turned on, my Bottloader is unlocked and my phone is rooted.
Everytime i try to run soju i get this Erreor:
Checking for updates......
Test 1: Rebooting into bootloader
Waiting for fastboot (7/120)
Waiting
Test 2: Booting device
Waiting for ADB (16/120)
must ferment longer...
must sanitize, skunky rum is nasty
hold please..............................................
[------------------------------------------------------------]
Rebooting into bootloader (again)
Waiting for fastboot (7/120)
FATAL: Download updated package at www.rumrunner.us
Press ENTER to exit
Does anyone know how to fix this?
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just do what the output tells you to do!
Go to www.rumrunner.us and use the updated version.
LibertyMarine said:
just do what the output tells you to do!
Go to www.rumrunner.us and use the updated version.
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Thanks for your reply!
I already have the newest version so that doesn't seem to be the problem :/
Fabivons said:
Thanks for your reply!
I already have the newest version so that doesn't seem to be the problem :/
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hmm, what OS did you install? Try to install a 4.3 zip from here: http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ch/p/android-revolution-hd-mirror-site-var.html
And could you please provide a "fastboot getvar all"?
thanks
P.S.
Just in case you don't know... censor the IMEI and the build number... just everything that is unique on your phone!
LibertyMarine said:
hmm, what OS did you install? Try to install a 4.3 zip from here: http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ch/p/android-revolution-hd-mirror-site-var.html
And could you please provide a "fastboot getvar all"?
thanks
P.S.
Just in case you don't know... censor the IMEI and the build number... just everything that is unique on your phone!
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I recently installed Android Revolution HD 41 and the ElementalX-m7-10.10.1 Kernel.
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.55.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 4A.21.3263.04
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main: 3.62.401.1
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) serialno: /
(bootloader) imei: /
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m7_ul
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064
(bootloader) modelid: PN0710000
(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__102
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 3941mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-bb768ae1
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
Fabivons said:
I recently installed Android Revolution HD 41 and the ElementalX-m7-10.10.1 Kernel.
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.55.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 4A.21.3263.04
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main: 3.62.401.1
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) serialno: /
(bootloader) imei: /
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m7_ul
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064
(bootloader) modelid: PN0710000
(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__102
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 3941mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-bb768ae1
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
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then I think you should try the STOCK 4.3 ROM... this should definitely work. I tested it twice.
http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=One_3.62.401.1_odexed.zip
(Thanks @mike1986.)
Then download the newest version of rumrunner s off:
http://rumrunner.us/rumrunner_downloads/rumrunner_HTC_0.5.0.tgz
BUT carefully listen to the instructions on the site!
http://rumrunner.us/instructions/
Fabivons said:
I recently installed Android Revolution HD 41 and the ElementalX-m7-10.10.1 Kernel.
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.55.0000
(bootloader) version-main: 3.62.401.1
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) product: m7_ul
(bootloader) modelid: PN0710000
(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__102
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
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LibertyMarine said:
then I think you should try the STOCK 4.3 ROM... this should definitely work. I tested it twice.
http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=One_3.62.401.1_odexed.zip
(Thanks @mike1986.)
Then download the newest version of rumrunner s off:
http://rumrunner.us/rumrunner_downloads/rumrunner_HTC_0.5.0.tgz
BUT carefully listen to the instructions on the site!
http://rumrunner.us/instructions/
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Sorry to bug in, but may I recommend ARHD 31.6 (already rooted and unsecured kernel): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
nkk71 said:
Sorry to bug in, but may I recommend ARHD 31.6 (already rooted and unsecured kernel): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
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No problem... I tried this one too but none of the ARHD worked for me.. anyways... rumrunner roots and flashed a unsecured kernel..
LibertyMarine said:
No problem... I tried this one too but none of the ARHD worked for me.. anyways... rumrunner roots and flashed a unsecured kernel..
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When you got s-off, were you using the universal tool, or the firmware specific tools? as far as i can see, the universal tool (unlike the specific versions), need root and unsecured kernel (which the previous fw specific packages did by themselves).
nkk71 said:
When you got s-off, were you using the universal tool, or the firmware specific tools? as far as i can see, the universal tool (unlike the specific versions), need root and unsecured kernel (which the previous fw specific packages did by themselves).
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I used both... for the new phone I used a universal tool... but I didn't root the phone previously...
Where did you see that? I read again through the whole page and couldn't find a order to install supersu or/and a unsecured kernel...
Maybe we shouldn't discuss this in the thread... we're highjacking this thread^^ Anyways, would be interesting where you got this information form
LibertyMarine said:
I used both... for the new phone I used a universal tool... but I didn't root the phone previously...
Where did you see that? I read again through the whole page and couldn't find a order to install supersu or/and a unsecured kernel...
Maybe we shouldn't discuss this in the thread... we're highjacking this thread^^ Anyways, would be interesting where you got this information form
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I think it's okay, as long as we don't go forty posts on it; i saw it on while using rumrunner 0.5.0, ........ "ERROR: looks device is not rooted AND lacks an unsecure kernel. su or Fu!!!"
in fact ROM was rooted (odexed), but stock kernel, after installing custom kernel it was ok.
nkk71 said:
I think it's okay, as long as we don't go forty posts on it; i saw it on while using rumrunner 0.5.0, ........ "ERROR: looks device is not rooted AND lacks an unsecure kernel. su or Fu!!!"
in fact ROM was rooted (odexed), but stock kernel, after installing custom kernel it was ok.
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Hmm... that's weird^^ but to be sure, I'd also do what you recommend... I just didn't have this problem.. don't know why.. the One was just out of the box, unlocked.. not even rooted^^ don't know how this exactly happend. Maybe I was on a previous verison of rumrunner s off... but I am pretty sure it was one of the universal.. I'm gonna dig around in my logfiles.. I stored everything somewhere on my HD...
LibertyMarine said:
Hmm... that's weird^^ but to be sure, I'd also do what you recommend... I just didn't have this problem.. don't know why.. the One was just out of the box, unlocked.. not even rooted^^ don't know how this exactly happend. Maybe I was on a previous verison of rumrunner s off... but I am pretty sure it was one of the universal.. I'm gonna dig around in my logfiles.. I stored everything somewhere on my HD...
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AFAIK, rooted rom should work, and unsecured kernel is only "preferred".
nkk71 said:
AFAIK, rooted rom should work, and unsecured kernel is only "preferred".
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sorry, because of a lack of English knowledge, I didn't understand what you meant with this message. Sorry, could you please try to say it with different words ?
LibertyMarine said:
sorry, because of a lack of English knowledge, I didn't understand what you meant with this message. Sorry, could you please try to say it with different words ?
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yes, sorry: as far as i know (AFAIK), when rumrunner switched from specific to universal, the first thing that was needed was a rooted rom, with an unsecured kernel "preferred, but not necessary",
now (as the number of devices, etc. have been added), rumrunner works best with a ROM compatible with firmware, also rooted and unsecured kernel (ie kernel with write-protection disabled)
nkk71 said:
yes, sorry: as far as i know (AFAIK), when rumrunner switched from specific to universal, the first thing that was needed was a rooted rom, with an unsecured kernel "preferred, but not necessary",
now (as the number of devices, etc. have been added), rumrunner works best with a ROM compatible with firmware, also rooted and unsecured kernel (ie kernel with write-protection disabled)
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Aha, ok.. thanks! Thank you very much for updating my knowledge!
I'm on stock, rooted, custom recovery and HBoot 1.55... This is what I did....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606577
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Thank you so far!
I am going to try it out!
But I have one more question.. is there a fix for the big black menue button which appears in the Google Play Edition?
Fabivons said:
Thank you so far!
I am going to try it out!
But I have one more question.. is there a fix for the big black menue button which appears in the Google Play Edition?
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oh mate.. what luck that I randomly saw your post... otherwise noone would have seen it.. remember: If you want to have an answer, quote or the other person won't be notified! This is just the way this forum works.. I am sorry.
Yes there is a fix:
Download Xposed Installer and install it on your device. Then install the framework... and search in the store(the one in xposed) for 3dot menu Mod... install it and the 3dot menu is away! To get the 3dot menu working, i can recommand Gravity box which you can use to remap the softkeys(longpress, doublepress)...
Edit:
Xposed doesn't work on ART Engine at the moment! Only dalvik works. Running it on ART will lead into a bootloop... but Xposed know this and disables ART before you run into further errors
Fabivons said:
Thank you so far!
I am going to try it out!
But I have one more question.. is there a fix for the big black menue button which appears in the Google Play Edition?
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is everything fine?
First of all, my predicament continues from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725647
Previous situation: (Skip if you're not interested in what got me into this)
I originally intended to return to 100% stock and send it back to HTC to get my purple camera fixed, but after 3 days of trying, I messed up.
Since it took up so much of my time and I was frustrated, I decided to send it back regardless of warranty. I send it to my carrier after wiping everything. HTC demanded about 450USD for a 730USD phone, my carrier suggested sending it to a workshop since they'd have a much more reasonable price. The workshop demanded 150USD(about half for the software and half for the camera replacement). I didn't care whether my phone came back in stock or not, so I told them to go ahead and fix the camera ONLY. But they strongly suggested that I fix my software first, so I took it back. Now I'm stuck exactly where I left it.
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fastboot getvar all
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.44.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 4A.23.3263.28
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main: 4.20.709.14
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) serialno:
(bootloader) imei:
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m7_u
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064
(bootloader) modelid: PN0711000
(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__621
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4302mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
getvar:all FAILED (status read failed (Too many links))
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Current situation:
S-ON with hboot 1.44. I can't S-OFF with revone since it only works with 4.2.2 ROMs.
I tried using revone to s-off again by installing a Guru_Reset_M7_2.24.709.1 ROM, but then I got a "revone failed (error code = -6)" during the process. Also couldn't install an RUU, always got a "ERROR[140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR".
What I need:
S-OFF and upgrade to latest hboot.
All I can do now is restore my nandroid backup(ARHD 63.0) during the day when I need my phone, and try fixing it whenever I have time.
I have tried everything I can think of, and I'm completely stuck right now. PLEASE HELP.
Please help
BUMP
theplaypig said:
What I need:
S-OFF and upgrade to latest hboot.
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Install the ROM mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48955645&postcount=251
then use revone to S-Off
PS: and edit your first post and remove IMEI, not to be shared publicly
EDIT: Why is (bootloader) version-main: 4.20.709.14 ??
nkk71 said:
Install the ROM mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48955645&postcount=251
then use revone to S-Off
PS: and edit your first post and remove IMEI, not to be shared publicly
EDIT: Why is (bootloader) version-main: 4.20.709.14 ??
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I think it's because I downgraded my hboot from 1.56 to 1.44 while running a ARHD 62.0 ROM?
Will this method still work? Waiting for download to finish...
theplaypig said:
I think it's because I downgraded my hboot from 1.56 to 1.44 while running a ARHD 62.0 ROM?
Will this method still work? Waiting for download to finish...
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okay, just read the other thread, and now i see the problem.... but i don't know if revone will work or not with this combination of hboot + firmware + ROM.
give it a try, otherwise also try both rumrunner and firewater.
nkk71 said:
okay, just read the other thread, and now i see the problem.... but i don't know if revone will work or not with this combination of hboot + firmware + ROM.
give it a try, otherwise also try both rumrunner and firewater.
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Just tried using revone with the rom you mentioned, I get the same "revone failed (error code = -6)" during the process.
Firewater doesn't work too(via HTC One Toolkit). When I click "Start Firewater", the pop out cmd window(which informs you the of the risks)
won't let me insert "Yes", it doesn't respond to any input.
Trying rumrunner...
What's my next step if it doesn't work?
theplaypig said:
Firewater doesn't work too(via HTC One Toolkit). When I click "Start Firewater", the pop out cmd window(which informs you the of the risks)
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don't use toolkits, use it via command prompt, download latest version, and follow the adb instructions: http://firewater-soff.com/
I have tried to use both rumrunner and firewater to s-off my htc one m7. At first, rumrunner complained of my kernel, so I installed carbon (based off of android 4.3) and elementalX. This combination causes rumrunner to tell me to wait and pray, and firewater exits in the middle.
I think that the firewater problem is due to the adb shell exiting when the phone reboots: it's unable to maintain the connection, and continue to run firewater when my phone is rebooting.
I have no idea why rumrunner isn't working.
Any help would be appreciated.
science_man said:
I have tried to use both rumrunner and firewater to s-off my htc one m7. At first, rumrunner complained of my kernel, so I installed carbon (based off of android 4.3) and elementalX. This combination causes rumrunner to tell me to wait and pray, and firewater exits in the middle.
I think that the firewater problem is due to the adb shell exiting when the phone reboots: it's unable to maintain the connection, and continue to run firewater when my phone is rebooting.
I have no idea why rumrunner isn't working.
Any help would be appreciated.
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With firewater are you using a USB 2.0 connection?
Do you have a good internet connection with the phone & PC?
Have you tried a different port? Cable? PC?
majmoz said:
With firewater are you using a USB 2.0 connection?
Do you have a good internet connection with the phone & PC?
Have you tried a different port? Cable? PC?
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I am using a USB 2.0 connection
I have a good internet connection with the PC, and I assume my phone can access my wifi.
I have tried different cables and ports, but not computers. It seems like this isn't my problem, but I'll give it a try just to be safe.
science_man said:
I am using a USB 2.0 connection
I have a good internet connection with the PC, and I assume my phone can access my wifi.
I have tried different cables and ports, but not computers. It seems like this isn't my problem, but I'll give it a try just to be safe.
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I'm going to assume that ADB is up to date. Some have reported that ARHD 81.0 is a good candidate because it is close to stock. So, you might give it a try. If you read thru the firewater thread you may get some ideas on what combinations to try. If you get the "Whelp this sucks..." message then firewater will not work and you next option is sunshine with it's $25 fee.
majmoz said:
I'm going to assume that ADB is up to date. Some have reported that ARHD 81.0 is a good candidate because it is close to stock. So, you might give it a try. If you read thru the firewater thread you may get some ideas on what combinations to try. If you get the "Whelp this sucks..." message then firewater will not work and you next option is sunshine with it's $25 fee.
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Before I try ARHD (my internet is slow and I'm not looking forward to the download), what do you mean by the "Whelp this sucks..." message? I have never gotten an explicit error message from firewater; rather it just exits when the phone first reboots without any effect.
science_man said:
Before I try ARHD (my internet is slow and I'm not looking forward to the download), what do you mean by the "Whelp this sucks..." message? I have never gotten an explicit error message from firewater; rather it just exits when the phone first reboots without any effect.
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You should keep trying until you get that message. You say your internet is slow, could it be the cause of the communication error in that firewater is not waiting long enough to get a reply via the internet?
majmoz said:
You should keep trying until you get that message. You say your internet is slow, could it be the cause of the communication error in that firewater is not waiting long enough to get a reply via the internet?
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I have tried several times to run firewater, and when it does fail, it doesn't give the impression that it almost succeeded; adb shell exits when the phone reboots. That doesn't seem like it would change randomly, unlike an actual error. Also, my internet isn't so slow that I have connectivity issues, usually. I will try again, but mostly right now I'm just waiting for this ROM to download.
Thanks for trying to help, by the way!
While trying to install Android Revolution, the installer tells me "set_metadata_recursive: some changes failed" just after it tries to set permissions. Then, when I try to boot, I get stuck in a boot loop, where my phone enters recovery instead of booting the system. I am using twrp recovery, by the way. On the ARHD page, there is something mentioned about a custom firmware, but I don't know how to find out which firmware would be the correct one.
I'm assuming the reason I can't install ARHD is because I don't have s-off. But that is what I am trying to get by installing it, so there is no point. Can I install ARHD without s-off? If so, what do I need to do differently?
science_man said:
While trying to install Android Revolution, the installer tells me "set_metadata_recursive: some changes failed" just after it tries to set permissions. Then, when I try to boot, I get stuck in a boot loop, where my phone enters recovery instead of booting the system. I am using twrp recovery, by the way. On the ARHD page, there is something mentioned about a custom firmware, but I don't know how to find out which firmware would be the correct one.
I'm assuming the reason I can't install ARHD is because I don't have s-off. But that is what I am trying to get by installing it, so there is no point. Can I install ARHD without s-off? If so, what do I need to do differently?
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Use TWRP 2.6.3.3 recovery.
cyrusct82 said:
Use TWRP 2.6.3.3 recovery.
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Although 2.6.3.3 does get rid of the error message, my phone still gets stuck in a boot loop when trying to boot ARHD.
Do you think my problems installing ARHD stem from not having s-off? It is stated somewhere that it is possible to install it with s-on, but I don't know what else I would have to do to get that to work.
science_man said:
Do you think my problems installing ARHD stem from not having s-off? It is stated somewhere that it is possible to install it with s-on, but I don't know what else I would have to do to get that to work.
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You don't need s-off to flash AHRD ..only the google play edition requires s-off
post your fastboot getvar all (minus your serial no and IMEI)
clsA said:
You don't need s-off to flash AHRD ..only the google play edition requires s-off
post your fastboot getvar all (minus your serial no and IMEI)
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fastboot getvar all
Code:
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.57.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 4T.28.3218.04
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main:
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) serialno: ************
(bootloader) imei: ***************
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m7_ul
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064
(bootloader) modelid: PN0712000
(bootloader) cidnum: BS_US001
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4132mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-6d8a0b9b
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
all: Done!
finished. total time: 0.051s
science_man said:
fastboot getvar all
Code:
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.57.0000
(bootloader) version-baseband: 4T.28.3218.04
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: None
(bootloader) version-main:
(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
(bootloader) serialno: ************
(bootloader) imei: ***************
(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000
(bootloader) product: m7_ul
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064
(bootloader) modelid: PN0712000
(bootloader) cidnum: BS_US001
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4132mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-6d8a0b9b
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
all: Done!
finished. total time: 0.051s
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You have the developers edition CID
theirs no reason why ARHD shouldn't work
try an older version like arhd 53 or 62
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=9984
I managed to install Android Revolution 53 after installing twrp 2.6.33 (2.8.0.2 gave me that error about permissions I had earlier). However, this didn't appear to get me any closer to getting s-off. The exact same error happens with rumrunner as happened when I had carbon installed.
science_man said:
I managed to install Android Revolution 53 after installing twrp 2.6.33 (2.8.0.2 gave me that error about permissions I had earlier). However, this didn't appear to get me any closer to getting s-off. The exact same error happens with rumrunner as happened when I had carbon installed.
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Try ARHD 53 with compatible Bulletproof Kernel
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Danny201281 said:
Try ARHD 53 with compatible Bulletproof Kernel
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I am already using ElementalX kernel, and "For Sense 5 Android 4.2.2:
Install ElementalX with vanilla settings and you will have Bulletproof Kernel". So I think I already am.
science_man said:
I am already using ElementalX kernel, and "For Sense 5 Android 4.2.2:
Install ElementalX with vanilla settings and you will have Bulletproof Kernel". So I think I already am.
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No Elemental x is not bulletproof kernel no matter how you install it. Both kernels come from the same Dev, why would he make 2 kernels if you could get the same thing from just one.
Bulletproof kernel has proven to be far more successful with firewater than Elemental x. It's worth a try :good:
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Danny201281 said:
No Elemental x is not bulletproof kernel no matter how you install it. Both kernels come from the same Dev, why would he make 2 kernels if you could get the same thing from just one.
Bulletproof kernel has proven to be far more successful with firewater than Elemental x. It's worth a try :good:
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You have fixed every single one of my problems. My phone is now s-off. Thank you so much.
science_man said:
You have fixed every single one of my problems. My phone is now s-off. Thank you so much.
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Your Welcome and Congrats on the s-off it's kind of a great feeling huh! :highfive: enjoy the s-off goodness
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Hi,
I want use my warranty but at the moment my HTC One M7 is unlocked and has S-OFF. It already has the stock rom and the newest OTA.
I hope you can help me with my problem although it is often asked. Unfortunately I haven't found the right instructions that i understand.
I don't know how i can change the HTC's status back to "locked" and not "relocked" in the bootloader screen. Moreover the HTC needs to be S-ON.
Thank you,
..alwazs
..alwazs said:
Hi,
I want use my warranty but at the moment my HTC One M7 is unlocked and has S-OFF. It already has the stock rom and the newest OTA.
I hope you can help me with my problem although it is often asked. Unfortunately I haven't found the right instructions that i understand.
I don't know how i can change the HTC's status back to "locked" and not "relocked" in the bootloader screen. Moreover the HTC needs to be S-ON.
Thank you,
..alwazs
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actually s-off is usually ok if everything else is in order
follow nkk71's superguide here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541082
your being s-off will make it pretty simple
I tried this tutorial before I started the thread but it doesn't help me. I have used a naindroid Backup to get the stock rom. The instructions to lock my HTC doesn't work. I can't use shell commands or boot a recovery like cwm over fastboot
..alwazs said:
I tried this tutorial before I started the thread but it doesn't help me. I have used a naindroid Backup to get the stock rom. The instructions to lock my HTC doesn't work. I can't use shell commands or boot a recovery like cwm over fastboot
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what is your "fastboot getvar all" ?
alray said:
what is your "fastboot getvar all" ?
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version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 1.57.0000
version-baseband: 4T.29.3218.08
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 6.09.401.11
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-OFF
serialno: FA35NW919949
imei:
meid:
product: m7_ul
platform: HBOOT-8064
modelid: PN0710000
cidnum: HTC__102
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 3849mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: off
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: dirty-6d8a0b9b
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
..alwazs said:
I tried this tutorial before I started the thread but it doesn't help me. I have used a naindroid Backup to get the stock rom. The instructions to lock my HTC doesn't work. I can't use shell commands or boot a recovery like cwm over fastboot
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..alwazs said:
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 1.57.0000
version-baseband: 4T.29.3218.08
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 6.09.401.11
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-OFF
serialno: FA35NW919949
imei:
meid:
product: m7_ul
platform: HBOOT-8064
modelid: PN0710000
cidnum: HTC__102
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 3849mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: off
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: dirty-6d8a0b9b
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
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use nkk71's guide with the 1.28.401.7 ruu.zip (follow post 1 2 and 4)
alray said:
use nkk71's guide with the 1.28.401.7 ruu.zip (follow post 1 2 and 4)
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I have used the command "fastboot flash zip ruu.zip" twice and now I'm stuck on waiting for device. What should I do now? I don't want to damage the HTC.
Edit: After a reboot the PC doesn't regonize my HTC in fastboot mode.
..alwazs said:
I have used the command "fastboot flash zip ruu.zip" twice and now I'm stuck on waiting for device. What should I do now? I don't want to damage the HTC.
Edit: After a reboot the PC doesn't regonize my HTC in fastboot mode.
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Windows 8 / 8.1 ?
nkk71 said:
Windows 8 / 8.1 ?
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Yes, i have Windows 8.1.
Anybody care to answer that, I am not entirely sure I covered it in posts 1 and 2
it seems
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nkk71 said:
Anybody care to answer that, I am not entirely sure I covered it in posts 1 and 2
it seems
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But it should be only problem when I downgrade.
A: when you downgrade to hboot 1.44, or it get's downgraded during an ruu, fastboot commands will no longer work and you will be stuck, so you need to use Win7 or Linux (continue reading FAQ)
Edit: Oh, thanks majmoz. I didn't regonize this.
..alwazs said:
But it should be only problem when I downgrade.
A: when you downgrade to hboot 1.44, or it get's downgraded during an ruu, fastboot commands will no longer work and you will be stuck, so you need to use Win7 or Linux (continue reading FAQ)
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You effectively downgraded your hboot to 1.44 when you ran the RUU 1.28.401.7. You will need to use Linux or a Win 7 machine to progress further!
..alwazs said:
But it should be only problem when I downgrade.
A: when you downgrade to hboot 1.44, or it get's downgraded during an ruu, fastboot commands will no longer work and you will be stuck, so you need to use Win7 or Linux (continue reading FAQ)
Edit: Oh, thanks majmoz. I didn't regonize this.
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majmoz said:
You effectively downgraded your hboot to 1.44 when you ran the RUU 1.28.401.7. You will need to use Linux or a Win 7 machine to progress further!
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I use this driver hack for 2 years and it has always worked om my windows 8.1 PC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49131915
use the old dirty method it works
theirs also this, but the one above is all i ever used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-s/general/guide-fix-fastboot-windows-8-1-t2858337
clsA said:
I use this driver hack for 2 years and it has always worked om my windows 8.1 PC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49131915
use the old dirty method it works
theirs also this, but the one above is all i ever used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-s/general/guide-fix-fastboot-windows-8-1-t2858337
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Hey there, you've mentioned that quite a few times iirc,
Would you mind writing it up for me to add to the FAQs [emoji4]
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nkk71 said:
Hey there, you've mentioned that quite a few times iirc,
Would you mind writing it up for me to add to the FAQs [emoji4]
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Theirs nothing else to be said really, this works >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-s/general/guide-fix-fastboot-windows-8-1-t2858337
I had been using the old Dirty method, but after a clean windows 8.1 install (new Asus Motherboard) I found the above and it worked and was easier.
@nkk71 here's an example >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59586504 Starts at Post 27 and down
clsA said:
Theirs nothing else to be said really, this works >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-s/general/guide-fix-fastboot-windows-8-1-t2858337
I had been using the old Dirty method, but after a clean windows 8.1 install (new Asus Motherboard) I found the above and it worked and was easier.
@nkk71 here's an example >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59586504 Starts at Post 27 and down
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thanks, already updated the FAQ a few minutes ago
nkk71 said:
thanks, already updated the FAQ a few minutes ago
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Yeah, just backing it up with some good old fashioned Proof !!