Lithium Ion Batterys DO NOT like to be charged at HIGH Temperatures
After doing a heavy intensive CPU App, or playing a game and the back of the phone is getting really hot, let your phone cool off before charging
I played Plants VS zombies for an hour and the battery temps gradually rose to around 68C which is 154.4F
Let it cool before charging, use a battery temp app such as "Battery" to monitor temps
I learned the hard way on my HTC One X after letting it overheat and then charging it while it was overheating it reduced the capacity of the battery ALOT and got the Red light while flashing when charging witch means the battery has overheated
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Your Phone does not have any active cooling system for the CPU, it has Passive cooling witch uses the environment's temperature to bring down the temperature of the internal cpu
Your PC has Active Cooling (Heatsink + Fan)
The nexus 5 has passive cooling (Heatsink only)
same goes with just casual wireless charging. be careful
A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
I can't care less. It has 1 year warranty.
Odd, Is it really monitoring the battery temps? it seems to be linked to the CPU temp and the warm part is located on where the CPU is at and not the battery.
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Odd, Is it really monitoring the battery temps? it seems to be linked to the CPU temp and the warm part is located on where the CPU is at and not the battery.
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it's to my understanding there are 2 sensors in the N5, one for battery and one for cpu
Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
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Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
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Explain my dead HTC One X battery? Exactly not everything works as it should be.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slyp087/slyp087.pdf
if the temp gets high enough the chip cannot react fast enough
or if the charge falls too low lets say 2 volts it cannot charge again because it isn't a safe charging voltage
I think he was actually saying that the charging circuit wouldn't allow the battery to charge at high temperatures. I cannot verify that but since the charging circuit prevents over draw and over charge by cutting "power" it makes sense
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It will cut off after reaching extremes. You don't want it reaching those extremes ever though or it WILL take it's toll on the battery.
Battery's don't like heat. They don't like extreme cold either.
Don't think the battery will ever get to 110F as the phone will shut down/not charge at that temperature until it goes down. Therefore, you probably couldn't spoil the battery if you tried with this fail safe implemented.
With someone's personal testimony about a fried phone, I can offer my testimony that I used a wireless charger on my Nexus 4 + played games until hot + charged whenever I wanted to and the phone, which my GF uses now, isn't any worse for wear.
Especially because the Nexus 5 has a Li-Po (lithium-polymer) and not a lithium-Ion battery
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Hi
These batteries don't like heat full stop, they are like perishable foods and degrade quicker the warmer they are, regardless of being charged or not. This is why laptop batteries do not do well when the laptop is used mostly on the mains, nothing to do with constant top up charging, it is because the battery is constantly held in the warmth of the running laptop all day and age much quicker.
Lithium batteries do not work well in extreme cold, but this isn't permanent and they return to normal when back to room temperature, and lithium batteries are held refrigerated for storage, just like a perishable food.
Regardless of being used or not, the battery will lose a considerable amount of its capacity just by ageing over a year or two. Given the various safety controls built in, it is fairly difficult to cause much more damage than time alone will cause, so you might as well just use and abuse the battery anyway, especially as most people will be replacing the phone after a couple of years.
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Phil
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Don't think the battery will ever get to 110F as the phone will shut down/not charge at that temperature until it goes down. Therefore, you probably couldn't spoil the battery if you tried with this fail safe implemented.
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i dont think you know what the fail safe temperature is
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/cVuWVDW-hyY
there's a thread with someone's n5 getting to 45C(113F) while playing games and without shutting down, and he lives in Canada. imagine what temp it would be at in any reasonably warm climate
110F is not safe if you want to preserve the longevity of your battery. period.
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Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
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Not irrelevant... Mine overheated while attached to my laptop and the led screen blew up. It developed a black bubble at the bottom near the home button.
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@op what phone in this world currently has an internal fan on it ?
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No phones currently have no active cooling on them
Also heres what happened to my HTC One X
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...e-x-battery-draining-rapidly-overheating.html
It drained rapidly and the backside was always hot when it wasn't even in use just sitting on my desk caused it to got hot
and i would charge it to 100% and took it off the charger ~10 mins it dropped to 70% just sitting there idle and the back is super hot
my point is the charging circuit only controls for overcharge with is extremely dangerous
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@op what phone in this world currently has an internal fan on it ?
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Just another example of Google cutting costs to put out this cheapo piece of %$))$!
But actually I did manage to really cook my phone! I set it (plugged in!) in a south-facing window to shoot time-lapse and oh-so-cleverly the sun bright winter sun was streaming through the thermal glass, and on to the silky black phone and...physics happened! About 15 minutes in my insta-greenhouse and I heard a strange whimpering 'ding!' from the phone -- when next I looked it had shut itself down. On reboot Dashclock was reporting "Overheat" "Not charging", and temp of 60+ degrees (can't remember the exact number but it might have been as high as 68!) Panic & a few minutes in the freezer brought it back to normal.
Take from that what you will:
1. It really dislikes being treated like a tomato seedling.
2. Idiot user didn't understand the 'greenhouse effect"
3. The phone does stop charging and goes into shutdown when things get too hot.
Before you judge too harshly, I want to point out the most obvious factor; a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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Before you judge too harshly, I want to point out the most obvious factor; a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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And the size and weight of the phone would grow enormously. Are you kidding? And what phone offered anywhere by anyone does what you suggest?
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...a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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I'm not the smallest guy on the planet, but can you imagine the size of a the pair of cargo shorts/pants that would be needed to carry a liquid cooled smartphone? Massive!! lol
Fwiw, my N5 routinely gets to 107-111f when doing some intensive things with other background intensive things running as well (i.e. banning trolls on my phone both through Tapatalk and Dolphin while listening to a streaming content on mobile wireless and sitting in the sun soaking up some Vitamin D).
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I'm not the smallest guy on the planet, but can you imagine the size of a the pair of cargo shorts/pants that would be needed to carry a liquid cooled smartphone? Massive!! lol
Fwiw, my N5 routinely gets to 107-111f when doing some intensive things with other background intensive things running as well (i.e. banning trolls on my phone both through Tapatalk and Dolphin while listening to a streaming content on mobile wireless and sitting in the sun soaking up some Vitamin D).
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It ain't about the pants, it's about Google being too damn cheap to deliver truer-than-true state-of-the-state-of-the-art! Come to think of it, if Google had the balls to fill those pants we'd have the phone we really deserve!
68 Celsius is about 154 Fahrenheit. But as I said, because it was actually being cooked at the time.
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To those of you who are using the OFFICIAL Google N1 car dock...
More specifically, to those of you who used it for longer periods of time (1hr+) on the dashboard, in the sun..
I know the dock will get really hot, but what about the N1? It's hard to see on the dock pics, does the dock cover the phone completely from the sun? It does look kinda enclosed, so does that help N1 to stay cooler or the opposite, doesn't allow it to air-cool?
I'll be making long roadtrips, using N1 navigation, and I worry about it getting too hot, and thus damaging the battery.
At least when you're using navigation, you only really have to worry about the GPS connection, as the 3G idles once it's cached the route (which I'm sure you know already anyway). My phone does get fairly warm when I'm using navigation + playing music for extended amounts of time, but not to the point where I'm worried about it. If you're gonna be driving for a LONG time, and don't mind the inconvenience, you can see if it still works with the battery removed, that way there's no question as to whether or not it's damaging the battery....or you could go for one of those 2 batteries for $20 deals on ebay and slam in a battery you don't care about.
TL;DR version - yes it gets pretty warm but not too bad, use spare batteries for peace of mind
At least when you're using navigation, you only really have to worry about the GPS connection, as the 3G idles once it's cached the route (which I'm sure you know already anyway). My phone does get fairly warm when I'm using navigation + playing music for extended amounts of time, but not to the point where I'm worried about it. If you're gonna be driving for a LONG time, and don't mind the inconvenience, you can see if it still works with the battery removed, that way there's no question as to whether or not it's damaging the battery....or you could go for one of those 2 batteries for $20 deals on ebay and slam in a battery you don't care about.
TL;DR version - yes it gets pretty warm but not too bad, use spare batteries for peace of mind
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Thanks for the good advice.
However, I want to know about the google car dock and how hot does the phone get while in the sun.
My battery hit 53C (or 127F) while I'm on GPS, Pandora, and the car dock positioned under the sun. I have no doubt it'll kill your battery. But I'm not worried since a spare battery is only $25. Cheaper on eBay I'm sure. At the rate I'm going I'll be surprised to get a year's worth of charging cycles on my current battery.
i took a 2 hour road trip, using navigation the whole time. pulled the phone out of the dock once i reached destination, and didn't think it felt hot at all.
It gets pretty hot for me too. The best thing you can do is use SetCPU and set up a profile so when it reaches a certain temperature have it down clock the processor.
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It gets pretty hot for me too. The best thing you can do is use SetCPU and set up a profile so when it reaches a certain temperature have it down clock the processor.
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SetCPU is not a good solution for me due to several reasons.
I was mostly wondering if the "enclosing" type of dock (the one that covers the phone completely) will keep the phone cooler, or the opposite, allow it to build up heat... that's basically the question..
I have a chinese one-size-fits-all dock that works, but most of the N1 is open to direct sun. Which I don't like.. hence, this thread.
Turn on your ac and activate the windshield defroster vent. That will keep the air temp around the device much cooler than it otherwise would be.
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Turn on your ac and activate the windshield defroster vent. That will keep the air temp around the device much cooler than it otherwise would be.
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mmm... Yeah.. I guess putting my N1 into a zip-lock bag and drowning it in liquid nitrogen would help too..
it gets really hot but not hot enough to damage anything
wick12345 said:
it gets really hot but not hot enough to damage anything
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Thanks.. That's a shame..
Technically, phone doesn't care that much, it's the battery. LiIon batteries hate heat, they degrade in heat pretty fast.
That makes me reconsider buying the google car dock =(
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Thanks.. That's a shame..
Technically, phone doesn't care that much, it's the battery. LiIon batteries hate heat, they degrade in heat pretty fast.
That makes me reconsider buying the google car dock =(
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If your $25 battery dies in a year and a half, rather than two years, does it really matter?
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If your $25 battery dies in a year and a half, rather than two years, does it really matter?
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Actually, frequent prolonged heat will destroy LIB pretty damn fast, about twice as fast as when in room temperature.
Oh and my second official battery was free, I called google and they sent me one for free.
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Actually, frequent prolonged heat will destroy LIB pretty damn fast, about twice as fast as when in room temperature.
Oh and my second official battery was free, I called google and they sent me one for free.
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WOW! Did you just call them up and say that the battery isn't charging or something? Did you have to send the other battery back? Would be nice to get a free battery! Which toll-free number did you call?
We had a fairly hot sunny weather last week, it was almost +35C (95F), I had running Waze (nav), Online Radio, and 30 minutes later - got a phone call (phone was paired to car's BT). Well, Nexus crashed, or, more precisely - hang. I had to remove battery to revive it. Nexus was HOT! I mean - so hot, that it was painful to hold it in my hand!
Btw, idea to turn on a window defroster would not work well in my car - defrost is available only in 2 modes: 1) defrost only 2) defrost+feet warming. So, it is either nexus or me sweating
I am trying to think of adding a small fan at the back of google car dock. Shouldn't it help a bit?!
Another idea friend gave me - to use an aluminum duct tape, and stick it to the back side of the dock to create a reflective layer to protect from sun. I like it, will try today.
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i took a 2 hour road trip, using navigation the whole time. pulled the phone out of the dock once i reached destination, and didn't think it felt hot at all.
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Another idea friend gave me - to use an aluminum duct tape, and stick it to the back side of the dock to create a reflective layer to protect from sun. I like it, will try today.
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I guess other drivers will love it when you blind them
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I guess other drivers will love it when you blind them
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Well, it's not brighter then the reflection from windshield or headlights
But now I think that this thing not gonna help. Found couple discussions on Nexus support forum. Apparently, the problem is not about sun, but more related to the hard charging by the dock. Looks like that instead of regular 1A of current as desktop changer use, car dock is pushing 2A.
If that is the reason, then the only solution to overheating problem would be to not connect a power line, converting a dock into a primitive $55 phone holder.
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WOW! Did you just call them up and say that the battery isn't charging or something? Did you have to send the other battery back? Would be nice to get a free battery! Which toll-free number did you call?
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same here i got a free battery from htc cause i am still in the one year warranty, i just told them that when i use to charge the battery to 100% it goes down to 82% percent in less than 10 minutes that's what i told them and they said that if i was using wifi or gps and i told nope ...so they send me a new battery i am still using the old battery ..and have a new one just in case......just make sure u don't even think about telling them your phone is rooted...or was cause you wont get jack.....
if your worried about the battery heating up do what others say and just buy an extra battery. im sure it gets fairly hot. i live in texas and is also something that worries me but i will still buy this car doc but place it in an area that the son will not hit it. lots of alt locations for me that will be in good eye location.
How does your phone heats up when running stability test cpu/gpu?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability
It would be nice to post your results here so i could compare them. Im suspecting that there is something wrong with mine from when it was returned from warranty repair.
That ****tards broke network reception when repairing power button, then led flash and gps. (Britex s.r.o., Kladno, Czech republic)
So here are mine
CPU OC 1420
charging
7 minutes of cpu/gpu stress test 51°C
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I think you dont know what you're talking about. You mean battery temp?
Obviously they didn't break your phone, what the hell are they gonna do to make your battery heat up, stab it with scissors? Short out cells?
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I think you dont know what you're talking about. You mean battery temp?
Obviously they didn't break your phone, what the hell are they gonna do to make your battery heat up, stab it with scissors? Short out cells?
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Hey Mungulz,
I have trouble understanding you... sometimes you are very helpful, other times it seems you just want to bully people.
Maybe some anger management classes?
It doesn't seem that obvious to me that they didn't "break" the phone... damaged tracks (increased resistance) can lead to more heat due to a little something called Joule effect, I believe.
Also, afaik, our phone uses its case as a cooler. I don't know if it is supposed to have some thermal paste somewhere for thermal connectivity to the frame, but, if it is, openning it up for repair and forgetting to check/reapply paste can also lead to overheating.
So... for me it's not that obvious. Can you elaborate on why you think it's obvious?
I know what im talking about but that shows only battery temperature. just for reference. If its overheating its logical that battery temperature will be also higher because of heat cannot be diverted to the cooler parts of the phone.
I have disassebled the phone and the pcbs were badly alligned not to mention loosy heatsinks.
Sorry for my bad english.
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I have disassebled the phone and the pcbs were badly alligned not to mention loosy heatsinks.
Sorry for my bad english.
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Is it obvious for you now Mungulz that the repair shop might very well break a phone?
xtrustkillx, your english is great I don't understand what you are apologizing for!
@Lars: Or there are 2 persons using Mungulz' account.
@trustkill: be careful with those stability apps mate. I guess you already know that they increase the wear and tear on your CPU and GPU by subjecting it to threshold load right?
About the temperature, it's a difficult one to compare. I have my battery temperature at 1 to 2 degrees above room temperature when idle. (Therefore 33C from a 31C room.) But it goes as high as 42C if I charge it and not point a fan or AC to the phone. Thing is, I notice that my phone rarely goes above 41. I believe that our boards have an initial level of fail-safe where it lowers down the clock speed when the phone reaches 40C.
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So... for me it's not that obvious. Can you elaborate on why you think it's obvious?
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I just struggle to see how a poorly installed heatsink (assuming LG messed it up) can attribute to higher battery temperatures. in my mind this would increase CPU temperatures dramatically to the point of thermal shutdown, while the heatsink is not absobing as much heat as it should.
In theory the battery would be cooler if the heatsink wasn't functioning, as the CPU would shut down. I think this is just a case of far too much load on the phone. Really though if you put 7 watts into a phone this size it's going to get hot regardless of how good the heatsink is.
Furthermore, benchmarking while AC charging is always going to produce high battery temperatures, no matter if your phone was built on a Friday or Wednesday.
To me this thread just seemed like an opportunity to rant about LG or the repair centre, with no real goal.
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@salisbury: I've seen in vadonka's thread (if I'm not mistaken) that you're right. It's actually something controlled by the kernel. There are three "charging modes". If the phone is cool, 1A (providing you're not in USB mode), after a certain temperature it switches to USB mode (that's 0.5A, either you're charging from an USB port or nor) and after a certain critical temperature it shuts off charging completely. These temperatures can be tweaked at kernel level.
@Mungulz: It seems you switched into your polite mode now. Much more pleasant and informative, thanks. I do not know how the phone is built, but, depending on how far the CPU is from the battery, are you saying it is impossible that having very high CPU temperatures will affect the battery's temp? I mean... in my head this is how I'm thinking... the phone uses its case as a heat sink (and there could be some very small heat sinks inside it), if these are not properly assembled, anything that is in contact with the CPU/GPU/whatever heat source will get hotter with it.
I can agree with you, if you really insist, that it is improbable that a battery in a poorly assembled phone will have temperature problems... but I don't think it's obvious! Even if it was there's no need to talk down on someone that suggested it as a possibility.
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@Mungulz: It seems you switched into your polite mode now. Much more pleasant and informative, thanks. I do not know how the phone is built, but, depending on how far the CPU is from the battery, are you saying it is impossible that having very high CPU temperatures will affect the battery's temp? I mean... in my head this is how I'm thinking... the phone uses its case as a heat sink (and there could be some very small heat sinks inside it), if these are not properly assembled, anything that is in contact with the CPU/GPU/whatever heat source will get hotter with it.
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Well the heatsinks job is to divert temperatures away from the CPU.
If the heatsink wasn't installed properly, then the CPU would get extremely hot while the heatsink isn't getting as hot as it should be. Which would make the battery cooler than it normally would be. Just the phone would shut down within minutes
So, I'm nervous about the fact that I can't replace the battery on my ONE. So far every night I've been staying up late until the phone dies, then plugging it in, waiting til the light stops flashing, then powering it up to charge while on overnight.
Problem is, this phone has awesome battery life. Right now at 10.30pm, I'm sitting at 41%, and debating just leaving it unplugged all night.
So what's the deal with memory on these batteries? How much, say over a 2 yr span, will charging a non-drained battery shorten its lifespan or lessen its capacity?
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So what's the deal with memory on these batteries? How much, say over a 2 yr span, will charging a non-drained battery shorten its lifespan or lessen its capacity?
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Lithium ion batteries are awesome. They are lighter, smaller and do not suffer from "memory effect."
Do not drain then fully recharge this phone on a regular basis. That will accelerate capacitance loss. Keep it charged as much as possible, avoid fast charging, try to use your PC to charge it overnight. Do not leave it charging for too long (i.e. days on end). Though on board computers can refuse charging, it is best to stay on the safe side.
2 years, you will definitely notice a decrease in battery life, but by the time it becomes intolerable, you will have upgraded. I can almost guarantee that.
EDIT: Please add to/refute any statements I made if you have greater knowledge on this subject, people.
Thanks! Can you explain why using mr PC to charge is better?
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Thanks! Can you explain why using mr PC to charge is better?
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Because it's a slower charge at a lower amp rating prolongs battery life by not boiling the cells
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Because it's a slower charge at a lower amp rating prolongs battery life by not boiling the cells
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Gottit. Thanks!
No problem,glad I could shed some light on the subject
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So, I'm nervous about the fact that I can't replace the battery on my ONE. So far every night I've been staying up late until the phone dies, then plugging it in, waiting til the light stops flashing, then powering it up to charge while on overnight.
Problem is, this phone has awesome battery life. Right now at 10.30pm, I'm sitting at 41%, and debating just leaving it unplugged all night.
So what's the deal with memory on these batteries? How much, say over a 2 yr span, will charging a non-drained battery shorten its lifespan or lessen its capacity?
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As was previously noted, what you're doing is actually the worst possible thing you can do to a lithium ion battery. In general, best practice is to keep your battery somewhere between 10%-95% charge whenever possible. Once a month, you should "cycle" your battery under 10% (but not fully drained) to keep everything in peak condition. If you're ever not going to use the phone for any length of time, best practice is to drain to 40% and store in a cool, dark area.
When you first get a new device, you do want to condition it by doing three to five (varies on the device) full charge/discharge cycles, but after that, once a month with a conditioning cycle will take care of things for you. And again, as was previously noted, it's not a great idea to leave your phone charging overnight because you can't always depend on the battery controller chip.
These newer cells are all rated to relatively high cycle lifetimes, so I wouldn't worry overmuch. At that point, capacity is supposed to start degrading, although naturally it's going to happen a bit earlier for any number of reasons. I'd be much more worried about avoiding heat though than overcharge.
I'm assuming charging it slowly would keep it slightly cooler than a wall socket and closer to room temp, the better.
There is probably some other reason, but I'm not the person to ask. you can do some independent research. :good:
Just charge your phone when it needs it and don't when it doesn't. Do that and you'll be good until you upgrade no problem.
EDIT: Oh, beat me to it... haha
EDIT: Also, does the 40% apply to phones? Mobile devices never really turn off, they just go into deep sleep, I'm told. I was going to say that too, but then I remembered this. Does the 40% rule apply to non-removable batteries?
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I'm assuming charging it slowly would keep it slightly cooler than a wall socket and closer to room temp, the better.
There is probably some other reason, but I'm not the person to ask. you can do some independent research. :good:
Just charge your phone when it needs it and don't when it doesn't. Do that and you'll be good until you upgrade no problem.
EDIT: Oh, beat me to it... haha
EDIT: Also, does the 40% apply to phones? Mobile devices never really turn off, they just go into deep sleep, I'm told. I was going to say that too, but then I remembered this. Does the 40% rule apply to non-removable batteries?
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It's a question of how much voltage you're chucking into the battery. If you use a low-voltage wall adapter it'll be the same as if you were charging from your PC.
The 40% rule applies to any battery, and they'll all discharge over time anyway (connected or no). If you shut your phone off, everything powers down except (if memory serves) what's necessary to run the internal clock. The impact that has should be pretty minimal (unless you're trying to bury your One for a thousand years, in which case...can't help you there).
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It's a question of how much voltage you're chucking into the battery. If you use a low-voltage wall adapter it'll be the same as if you were charging from your PC.
(unless you're trying to bury your One for a thousand years, in which case...can't help you there).
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Who would buy a low voltage wall adapter?
And yes, I would like to bury my One safely for a thousand years, so when it is found by the generation of humadroids, they will see it and be amazed that a civilization so primitive could achieve such technological mastery.
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Who would buy a low voltage wall adapter?
And yes, I would like to bury my One safely for a thousand years, so when it is found by the generation of humadroids, they will see it and be amazed that a civilization so primitive could achieve such technological mastery.
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I don't know that I bought any, but I have a few lying around from yesteryear's gadgetry.
And at that point, why not launch it into space instead, a la HTC Nexus One?
So I use my phone as my alarm clock and also run the Relax and Sleep app all night. Otherwise I'd just plug it into my lappy throughout the day and not worry about it.
But that raises another question: running the phone overnight while charging it at the same time. Bad juju?
I plugged into my lappy last night around midnight, woke up this morning and had about 95% charge, rather than the usual 100%. I'm assuming this is the result of power output for Relax and Sleep cutting int power input from charging.
I've also been in the habit of leaving my EVO 4G plugged in while tethering. I assume this is also a bad plan?
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sauprankul said:
Lithium ion batteries are awesome. They are lighter, smaller and do not suffer from "memory effect."
Do not drain then fully recharge this phone on a regular basis. That will accelerate capacitance loss. Keep it charged as much as possible, avoid fast charging, try to use your PC to charge it overnight. Do not leave it charging for too long (i.e. days on end). Though on board computers can refuse charging, it is best to stay on the safe side.
2 years, you will definitely notice a decrease in battery life, but by the time it becomes intolerable, you will have upgraded. I can almost guarantee that.
EDIT: Please add to/refute any statements I made if you have greater knowledge on this subject, people.
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MOST of this advice is 100% true.
The only part that is not correct information is the advice to not let it die. It is perfectly OK to do this as long as you don't deep discharge the battery... Example like let it die then not charge it for like a week or something.
The science behind this is the fact that lithium ion batteries actually have a nominal voltage operating range which is like 3.2 - 4.3 volts or something like that. Your device is designed to shut itself down when it gets to about 3.5... This is done to protect the battery from deep discharge cycles.
Letting it die is perfectly alright. Just make sure you charge it soon after.
Also, you don't need to use your PC to charge it. That is in no way necessary. Your device came with a wall charger for a reason...
There are safety features built into the kernel and cable to keep you from damaging the device during charge. Use the wall.. It is perfectly safe and faster / more practical.
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So I use my phone as my alarm clock and also run the Relax and Sleep app all night. Otherwise I'd just plug it into my lappy throughout the day and not worry about it.
But that raises another question: running the phone overnight while charging it at the same time. Bad juju?
I plugged into my lappy last night around midnight, woke up this morning and had about 95% charge, rather than the usual 100%. I'm assuming this is the result of power output for Relax and Sleep cutting int power input from charging.
I've also been in the habit of leaving my EVO 4G plugged in while tethering. I assume this is also a bad plan?
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Your battery will automatically cycle between 95%-99.9999% to prevent overcharge, so you're fine on this front. You probably just caught it on the low end of the cycle.
The issue with charging + tethering is that a phone draws more power when plugged in (ramping up processor, etc.), and tethering eats a lot of power. More importantly, both charging the battery and running the antennas for tethering generate a lot of heat. So long as you watch your battery temp (most good tethering apps will toss in a temperature gauge, although if you're using stock you'll need another solution), you should be fine, but heat is one of the fastest ways to kill a Li-ion battery.
Admiral Sir Manley Power said:
MOST of this advice is 100% true.
The only part that is not correct information is the advice to not let it die. It is perfectly OK to do this as long as you don't deep discharge the battery... Example like let it die then not charge it for like a week or something.
The science behind this is the fact that lithium ion batteries actually have a nominal voltage operating range which is like 3.2 - 4.3 volts or something like that. Your device is designed to shut itself down when it gets to about 3.5... This is done to protect the battery from deep discharge cycles.
Letting it die is perfectly alright. Just make sure you charge it soon after.
Also, you don't need to use your PC to charge it. That is in no way necessary. Your device came with a wall charger for a reason...
There are safety features built into the kernel and cable to keep you from damaging the device during charge. Use the wall.. It is perfectly safe and faster / more practical.
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Although a full normal discharge (phone powering off) won't kill your battery in one go, it's a deeper discharge than I would recommend on a regular basis. Things are built with margins of safety, but I don't like playing on the edge when I can avoid it. The difference between 10%-15% isn't too much either when it comes to my use-case either, so I'm content to bounce between 20/30-95 most of the time.
Rirere said:
Your battery will automatically cycle between 95%-99.9999% to prevent overcharge, so you're fine on this front. You probably just caught it on the low end of the cycle.
The issue with charging + tethering is that a phone draws more power when plugged in (ramping up processor, etc.), and tethering eats a lot of power. More importantly, both charging the battery and running the antennas for tethering generate a lot of heat. So long as you watch your battery temp (most good tethering apps will toss in a temperature gauge, although if you're using stock you'll need another solution), you should be fine, but heat is one of the fastest ways to kill a Li-ion battery.
Although a full normal discharge (phone powering off) won't kill your battery in one go, it's a deeper discharge than I would recommend on a regular basis. Things are built with margins of safety, but I don't like playing on the edge when I can avoid it. The difference between 10%-15% isn't too much either when it comes to my use-case either, so I'm content to bounce between 20/30-95 most of the time.
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That is certainly a good point as well. No need to play on the edge of the cliffs. lol
You see my point tho
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Hello friends...I just bought my Xperia z1 yesterday. I have updated it to 2.257 , with normal usage of 10-15 mins continuously the temp rises to around 33-35 and when i use Camera for around 5-10 mins even, temp rise to around 40 degree and with a game like subway surfers the temp rises to 42-43 degree ... 43 was the highest i saw so far...
Is this ok with this phone ? Or should i go to service center ?
I am using the premium cover i got with the phone, with that on I don't really feel the hotness in my hands but just want to be sure that this is normal heat up with this phone and my phone is not bad..
Also, when the phone is at 43 degree, should i stop using it and allow it to cool ? or should i keep playing the games , use the camera and all...
Any application that can help reduce the heating ? and any better camera app u can suggest ?
Also, please don't suggest to root..I do not want to void the warranty but after 1 year I will definitely root the phone and use custom roms then...
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what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?
If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device
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what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?
If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device
lashton said:
what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?
If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device
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Ambient temp is around 25 only...the back cover just realized is separating from the top end camera side only.
I heard from some friend that If i go to the customer service regarding this heat , they will only say that it is normal as there is no warning message being popped in the phone about overheating.
And at sonymobile.com every one is saying that this is a normal heat up in z1 and on high gaming this temp will even rise to 50+ and there is still no issue except that the battery will drain faster on such temperature. I don't really understand why such heat up is being considered as normal in this phone...I mean it is heating , i can feel it..there can be some h/w issue arise in future coz of this
The explication for the high temperatures, i think, is because the phone is sealed (water proof and all) and the heat can't be very well dispersed in this case. That's why, on Z, many users complained that their phones overheated so much that the adhesive would loosen up (from the back cover) compromising the sealing proof of the device.
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The explication for the high temperatures, i think, is because the phone is sealed (water proof and all) and the heat can't be very well dispersed in this case. That's why, on Z, many users complained that their phones overheated so much that the adhesive would loosen up (from the back cover) compromising the sealing proof of the device.
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This is not always true. Most phones usually do not use any kind of air cooling. There are no fans or even any channels for air to move through in any phone im familiar with. Some phones (GS4 i think?) now have a water loop to transfer heat to the case more effectively, but they pretty much all just use the case to cool down.
When i first got my Z1 i had charged it to full then began using it right away while it was still warm from charging. After about an hour of running every benchmark i could find i started to use the camera on its max setting for maybe 20min before it said something like "temperature is too high, closing camera" (i didnt check the temp but i was a bit warm lol..). I was plugged in for all this usage so i was putting out near maximum heat.
I wouldn't actually be worried about the phone temp, i think this is just the reality of having this beast of a quad core with the standard (very little) heat dissipation. That said i know the CPU/GPU can handle 60-70C no problem, but i would prefer to keep the battery temp below 50C if possible.. Edit: actually the battery health indicator was reading "overheat" and i was at 39C° according to battery temp. I was playing an online game for about 35min.
It would be cool to have a battery discharge widget to show you how much more power is used when all cores and GPU are running, i think some people would be surprised.
The phone should stay cooler if its not plugged in during usage, i think. Also, i'I've never gotten the phone that hot since and im not trying to keep it cool at all.
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It would be cool to have a battery discharge widget to show you how much more power is used when all cores and GPU are running, i think some people would be surprised.
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I use Current Widget it works fine and has a log to file function:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
The phone easily draws over 2 Amps during 3DMark, I guess maximum peak current will be around 3 Amps for some scenarios.That is a lot! Current Widget detected a battery voltage if 4,11V which means a power output of around 8 to 10W peak.
This is on the border of what can be passively cooled in this form factor. Actually it's a marvel of engineering to squeeze so much computing power into a smartphone. And you are right, there is no active air cooling in phones, I have never heard of water Cooling in a handset either, do you have a source? Sounds interesting but I can't believe it
I totally agree on the rest if your post though! Don't worry about heat, the device was meant to get hot, this big 3000mAh battery is there for a reason too. I don't know why so many people get crazy over this, Sony does usually know what they are doing and if they think a high temperature limit is fine, it is.
By the way: In the Nexus 5/ Z1 comparison thread the reviewer stated that the N5 got hotter than his Z1. All modern Smartphones do get hot, it is the tradeoff needed for high performance.
Edit: This topic has also been discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467743
Edit 2: You were right! NEC does use a ultrathin 0,6mm waterfilled heatpipe!
www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Top-...eat-pipe-inside-new-smartphone-models_id44174
I stand corrected! ^^
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I use Current Widget it works fine and has a log to file function:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
The phone easily draws over 2 Amps during 3DMark, I guess maximum peak current will be around 3 Amps for some scenarios.That is a lot! Current Widget detected a battery voltage if 4,11V which means a power output of around 8 to 10W peak.
This is on the border of what can be passively cooled in this form factor. Actually it's a marvel of engineering to squeeze so much computing power into a smartphone. And you are right, there is no active air cooling in phones, I have never heard of water Cooling in a handset either, do you have a source? Sounds interesting but I can't believe it
Edit 2: You were right! NEC does use a ultrathin 0,6mm waterfilled heatpipe!
www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Top-...eat-pipe-inside-new-smartphone-models_id44174
I stand corrected! ^^
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Wow 3 amps i wasn't expecting, but that discharge rate would be required to kill it in an hour. Still nuts, they have defiantly pushed the limits of passive cooling here which disappointed me a bit because this will effect the maximum overclock. I don't know what i need the OC for yet, but thankfully i can just drop this phone in some ice water and it should do over 3Ghz no? My mytough4G went from 1Ghz to 2Ghz so we can expect a 100% overclock here too right? (I don't think the battery could even draw power fast enough..)
And water cooled phones amirite? I was really excited at the water cooled phones, but its not a big deal yet. That NEC probably barely runs cooler, and our Z1 would destroy that cooling setup anyways.. Its almost like they need to increase the size of the new devices to dissipate more heat. Although I'm still a fan of microscopic black hole cooling. Yep, a small singularity should do just fine.
So for now, its ice water and a PS3/BT controller lol.
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And water cooled phones amirite? I was really excited at the water cooled phones, but its not a big deal yet. That NEC probably barely runs cooler, and our Z1 would destroy that cooling setup anyways.. Its almost like they need to increase the size of the new devices to dissipate more heat. Although I'm still a fan of microscopic black hole cooling.
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I really liked the black hole part
Yes just filling the heatpipes with water is no real water cooling, but it's nice to see some innovation. I'd rather like to see vapour chamber heatpipes like on modern graphics cards though, but without any heat sink that would useless too.
You are also right with your more size for better cooling theory, it's no wonder that Snapdragon 800 SoCs are just used in 5" and above devices. That's why I am so impressed with the Xperia Z1f (aka Z1 mini). If I am correctly informed it uses the same SoC as the big Z1 in a 4,3" chassis. That's an amazing feat and the first time a mini variant will be as fast as the big one (unlike S4 mini and One mini). But it will get throttled a lot more than our big Z1s I guess.
Edit: When going for some serious overclocks I would advise you to turn down display brightness completely, that should give you some 0,3 to 0,5 Amps of extra current
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I really liked the black hole part
Yes just filling the heatpipes with water is no real water cooling, but it's nice to see some innovation. I'd rather like to see vapour chamber heatpipes like on modern graphics cards though, but without any heat sink that would useless too.
You are also right with your more size for better cooling theory, it's no wonder that Snapdragon 800 SoCs are just used in 5" and above devices. That's why I am so impressed with the Xperia Z1f (aka Z1 mini). If I am correctly informed it uses the same SoC as the big Z1 in a 4,3" chassis. That's an amazing feat and the first time a mini variant will be as fast as the big one (unlike S4 mini and One mini). But it will get throttled a lot more than our big Z1s I guess.
Edit: When going for some serious overclocks I would advise you to turn down display brightness completely, that should give you some 0,3 to 0,5 Amps of extra current
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crusnikmachine said:
This is not always true. Most phones usually do not use any kind of air cooling. There are no fans or even any channels for air to move through in any phone im familiar with. Some phones (GS4 i think?) now have a water loop to transfer heat to the case more effectively, but they pretty much all just use the case to cool down.
When i first got my Z1 i had charged it to full then began using it right away while it was still warm from charging. After about an hour of running every benchmark i could find i started to use the camera on its max setting for maybe 20min before it said something like "temperature is too high, closing camera" (i didnt check the temp but i was a bit warm lol..). I was plugged in for all this usage so i was putting out near maximum heat.
I wouldn't actually be worried about the phone temp, i think this is just the reality of having this beast of a quad core with the standard (very little) heat dissipation. That said i know the CPU/GPU can handle 60-70C no problem, but i would prefer to keep the battery temp below 50C if possible.. Edit: actually the battery health indicator was reading "overheat" and i was at 39C° according to battery temp. I was playing an online game for about 35min.
It would be cool to have a battery discharge widget to show you how much more power is used when all cores and GPU are running, i think some people would be surprised.
The phone should stay cooler if its not plugged in during usage, i think. Also, i'I've never gotten the phone that hot since and im not trying to keep it cool at all.
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I understand your POV but as long as it is affecting my phone, it's integrity and one of the main features for which i bought it with a premium price and a safety measure has to kick in in order to stay everything "ok" like "temperature is too high, closing camera", I'm not so sure about giving it a pass so easily.
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I understand your POV but as long as it is affecting my phone, it's integrity and one of the main features for which i bought it with a premium price and a safety measure has to kick in in order to stay everything "ok" like "temperature is too high, closing camera", I'm not so sure about giving it a pass so easily.
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However if you leave your device in the sun (car dash or w.e) it can get much hotter then it would from normal operation and when you try to wake the device it will usually immediately power down saying "high temp" or something. This is often the only way you would see this message imo. Pretty much all androids do this, so it really isn't specific to the Z1. An apple device would do the same thing etc.
Absolutely, no arguing.
But I don't agree when this happens while I'm playing a game, while (maybe) other apps are running in the background (multitasking), while wifi or 3g on, with more than 50% brightness level (not to mention maybe plugged to a power supply also to keep the battery from draining). In this particular case, on my old HTC One X, the overheating issue caused 2 burns on my phone's display (but that's another story) and i have them ever since.
So have you actually experienced any shut downs or warnings because of heat? Or do you just want to make sure that there's no problem?
I have been playing a lot if games and used the camera, so far everything seems stable, I have had no problems yet.
Mine reached 60 yesterday while playing dead trigger 2 but the CPU still scaled up to 2.15 so I guess the phone can take up to 65/70 degrees but my hands can't...
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Absolutely, no arguing.
But I don't agree when this happens while I'm playing a game, while (maybe) other apps are running in the background (multitasking), while wifi or 3g on, with more than 50% brightness level (not to mention maybe plugged to a power supply also to keep the battery from draining). In this particular case, on my old HTC One X, the overheating issue caused 2 burns on my phone's display (but that's another story) and i have them ever since.
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Mine reached 60 yesterday while playing dead trigger 2 but the CPU still scaled up to 2.15 so I guess the phone can take up to 65/70 degrees but my hands can't...
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Yea im with you.. At least you can dip this phone in water to cool it down xD
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Mine reached 60 yesterday while playing dead trigger 2 but the CPU still scaled up to 2.15 so I guess the phone can take up to 65/70 degrees but my hands can't...
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60 degrees celsius? Wow mine was doing 45 degrees while playing dead trigger 2 and I thaught I had a faulty handset
HAS ANYONE NOTICED OVERHEATING OF PHONE MOSTLY WHILE CHARGING, GAMING (should expect some heat not this much). I play PUBG on smooth basic plus extreme with no AA and gfx lower settings. Still phone heats up. FAN seems to be a marketing gimmick too. Circulation of air is v poor.
My question is can this be fixed via twrp custom rom tweaks. I'm willing to experiment.
Excuse me. Are you one of those geniuses who charges his phone while gaming?
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HAS ANYONE NOTICED OVERHEATING OF PHONE MOSTLY WHILE CHARGING, GAMING (should expect some heat not this much). I play PUBG on smooth basic plus extreme with no AA and gfx lower settings. Still phone heats up. FAN seems to be a marketing gimmick too. Circulation of air is v poor.
My question is can this be fixed via twrp custom rom tweaks. I'm willing to experiment.
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Yes I have the same issue
Aashishmv said:
Yes I have the same issue
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Describe the issue.
What is the app/activity?
What is the temperature of CPU and Battery?
What is the temperature of air?
nabbed said:
Describe the issue.
What is the app/activity?
What is the temperature of CPU and Battery?
What is the temperature of air?
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I think nubia have fake temp status.
Or is that a bug i don't know
When i turn the fan on at max speed. Temp increased. Things like that happen. Or when i come back to auto from performance mode. Tem goes up.
Which is weird. Makes me believe that all this temp and gpu turbo and fan is a gimmick.
Air temp is 26 deg Celsius.
thel'vadam said:
I think nubia have fake temp status.
Or is that a bug i don't know
When i turn the fan on at max speed. Temp increased. Things like that happen. Or when i come back to auto from performance mode. Tem goes up.
Which is weird. Makes me believe that all this temp and gpu turbo and fan is a gimmick.
Air temp is 26 deg Celsius.
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How do you measure the temperature? Was it a temperature of the CPU or the battery?
If your sentiment is not a user error or a fluke, then your unit is defective. Here's what one of the most prolific Youtube reviewers said about the fan - "it was keeping my phone 8 degrees cooler than my Samsung." I assume 8C, not Fahrenheit, because the reviewer is from UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4v3_3cPh0A#t=7m20s
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How do you measure the temperature? Was it a temperature of the CPU or the battery?
If your sentiment is not a user error or a fluke, then your unit is defective. Here's what one of the most prolific Youtube reviewers said about the fan - "it was keeping my phone 8 degrees cooler than my Samsung." I assume 8C, not Fahrenheit, because the reviewer is from UK.
#t=7m20s
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YouTube ers are paid. I check the temp stats from gaming app . Inbuilt.
Plus the phone feels hot in hand. Not 8 degrees cooler. And Hunan hand can easily feel 8 degrees change in temp over 5-10 minutes
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YouTube ers are paid. I check the temp stats from gaming app . Inbuilt.
Plus the phone feels hot in hand. Not 8 degrees cooler. And Hunan hand can easily feel 8 degrees change in temp over 5-10 minutes
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Instead of admitting that you were sold a defective unit and exchanging it for a working one, you think there's a conspiracy that involves the Nubia corporation and "paid youtubers."
But hey, I'm thinking this guy is not a psychopath. Maybe it's just a user erorr.
Maybe he thinks that having a fan in the phone should make the phone feel cool to touch during gaming.
Maybe he simply doesn't understand that the fan may be lowering the temperature from 55C to 47C, and that 47C will still feel hot to the hand.
Hey guy,
Can you actually provide real world numbers with screenshots?
No one has experienced anything like this before, so either your phone is defective or you have a nervous breakdown.
Yes, the phone overheats while charging but if you switch on the gaming mode to check heat also in certain Celsius comes down gradually and quickly in my case. So fans not a fake gimmick. Also when you are playing games heat is normal for heavy graphic 3d rendering titles like pubg, fortnight I play pubg with extreme HD and it heats but the fan keeps decreasing the heat. My suggestion is to charge where there is air free flow of air like a fan, AC, or cooler to keep ambient temp in control.
praveenparvani said:
Is the phone overheats when charging but if you switch on the gaming more and the famine normal performance also the Celsius comes down gradually so when is not fake also when you playing games that is normal heating I play with extreme HD and it heats but the fan keeps decreasing decreasing heat my suggestion is to charge where there is air flow free air flow are a fan AC cooler on.
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What he said. Sorry.
nabbed said:
Instead of admitting that you were sold a defective unit and exchanging it for a working one, you think there's a conspiracy that involves the Nubia corporation and "paid youtubers."
But hey, I'm thinking this guy is not a psychopath. Maybe it's just a user erorr.
Maybe he thinks that having a fan in the phone should make the phone feel cool to touch during gaming.
Maybe he simply doesn't understand that the fan may be lowering the temperature from 55C to 47C, and that 47C will still feel hot to the hand.
Hey guy,
Can you actually provide real world numbers with screenshots?
No one has experienced anything like this before, so either your phone is defective or you have a nervous breakdown.
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There is term called "anpad", search google. Means noob.
In forums here devs try to explore and experiment with every possible problem the OS or hardware may face.
See im not going to respond further to your low IQ behaviour anymore. Good day to you.
praveenparvani said:
Is the phone overheats when charging but if you switch on the gaming more and the famine normal performance also the Celsius comes down gradually so when is not fake also when you playing games that is normal heating I play with extreme HD and it heats but the fan keeps decreasing decreasing heat my suggestion is to charge where there is air flow free air flow are a fan AC cooler on.
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Yes
That is understandable, but then what is the fun of a fan gimmick when you need additional external air circulation with AC.
Even with clash of clans. Not much demanding game phone heats up. Plus additional charging while playing the temp increases continuously.
Circulation of heat and cooling inside the phone is poor. I'm starting to wonder if the battery has nay issues of heat while charging.
thel'vadam said:
There is term called "anpad", search google. Means noob.
In forums here devs try to explore and experiment with every possible problem the OS or hardware may face.
See im not going to respond further to your low IQ behaviour anymore. Good day to you.
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Low iq behavior? Projection much?
You are the one who's playing games while charging the phone, something that should not be done to a cellphone battery especially with 26C ambient air.
You realize that by charging and playing you are heating up the battery and the cpu at the same time and that's really going to cut battery's life real quick?
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What he said. Sorry.
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Apologies for the mess. Was relyed on Google voice without proof reading. I have edited now.
I'm not suggest to plug in a charger while gaming, it will make the phone hot, especially when you using the original fast charger. Anoher thing is you hae to know you can't get a high performance with the low temperature, if you get a very hot phone, the cpu will running in a low clock speed. The RM3 can get highest score on Antutu so I think the fan is doing something.
JerryYin said:
I'm not suggest to plug in a charger while gaming, it will make the phone hot, especially when you using the original fast charger. Anoher thing is you hae to know you can't get a high performance with the low temperature, if you get a very hot phone, the cpu will running in a low clock speed. The RM3 can get highest score on Antutu so I think the fan is doing something.
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I agree the fan is going something. Had the circulation been a bit effective i think it could have been utilised in a more better way.
Anyways i was just charging the phone while gaming to test the heat limits. Not actually doing it.
Still i have noticed battery heat while standby charging
thel'vadam said:
I agree the fan is going something. Had the circulation been a bit effective i think it could have been utilised in a more better way.
Anyways i was just charging the phone while gaming to test the heat limits. Not actually doing it.
Still i have noticed battery heat while standby charging
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If you are using a fast charger, the battery will get hot, that's normal.
Nubia red magic 3 Phone crashes..
I played pubg for 2hrs, the phone became unresponsive, the phone becomes so hot and the screen flashes with white pictures.. red magic 3..
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I played pubg for 2hrs, the phone became unresponsive, the phone becomes so hot and the screen flashes with white pictures.. red magic 3..
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What was the ambient temperature?
28degree c and lower, the same problem occurs.. nubia support told me its normal?
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I guess i have to stick with it and just cool it down every after 1game of pubg..