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[APP] Gear Getter - based off Pebble Notifier - v1.2 <No More Development>

UPDATED - v1.2 removes the double messages from some apps, fixes another bug.
I wanted a way to get other notifications to the Gear without having to run another client app on the Gear.
There is another project (ATN) that initially used the Email notification to do this. I liked this approach because it was simple, used the gear manager as the delivery mechanism, and the Email notification app on the gear which is robust enough to handle long notifications.
I reached out to Dattas Moonchaser, who wrote the popular Pebble Notifier to see if I could use his app as my base. He obliged so here it is....
Install this on your phone, there is nothing to install on the Gear. The only thing you need to know is to go into Accessibility settings and give Gear Getter permissions (it has a big RED link for this when you launch the app). Also make sure you have Email notification checked in the Gear Manager.
Here are some better instructions - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47449016&postcount=119
Once you enable Accessibility you are able to setup your apps you want to receive notifications from. Couple cool things..
- There is the ability to setup filters
- Ability to setup quiet times
- There is tasker integration (I haven't messed with this)
- This reads the data from the expanded view so you should get pretty robust notifcations
- Easy on the battery
If you feel the need to donate, please do it from the app, and it will go to Dattas who would appreciate it.

mhoepfin said:
I wanted a way to get other notifications to the Gear without having to run another client app on the Gear.
There is another project (ATN) that initially used the Email notification to do this. I liked this approach because it was simple, used the gear manager as the delivery mechanism, and the Email notification app on the gear which is robust enough to handle long notifications.
I reached out to Dattas Moonchaser, who wrote the popular Pebble Notifier to see if I could use his app as my base. He obliged so here it is....
The only thing you need to know is to go into Accessibility and give Gear Getter permissions (it has a big RED link for this when you launch the app).
Then setup your apps you want to receive notifications from. Couple cool things..
- There is the ability to setup filters
- Ability to setup quiet times
- There is tasker integration (I haven't messed with this)
- This reads the data from the expanded view so you should get pretty robust notifcations
- Easy on the battery
If you feel the need to donate, please do it from the app, and it will go to Dattas who would appreciate it.
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Quick question..
I did not install anything yet but I wanted to understand this. Do we install on both the gear and the phone ?
Where does it pull information from ?
I never used the app before, I just wanted some more info before I experiment with it.
And does it require 4.3 ?
Thanks

Can you read the notifications from the gear with this ?.

Elgreco333 said:
Quick question..
I did not install anything yet but I wanted to understand this. Do we install on both the gear and the phone ?
Where does it pull information from ?
I never used the app before, I just wanted some more info before I experiment with it.
And does it require 4.3 ?
Thanks
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You only install it on the phone, there is nothing to install on the gear. It uses the built in Email notification on the gear to display the notifications.
You tell it which apps you want to receive notifications from on your gear.
This doesn't require 4.3, but the Gear Manager does (which this uses).

jawonder said:
Can you read the notifications from the gear with this ?.
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This send notifications from your phone (for the applications you select) to the gear, using the Email notification on the gear to display them.

Thanks, checking it out. I want to see if I can get Instagram notifications. I will report back.

So far so good! Gmail is sending full subject and body of emails! However, when you click "Show On Device" it launches the stock email client instead of gmail. It sounds like that's because it uses the email notification methods.

ProximaC said:
So far so good! Gmail is sending full subject and body of emails! However, when you click "Show On Device" it launches the stock email client instead of gmail.
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Great! The logic for getting the notification details is pretty battle tested so I would expect the content it sends to the gear to be pretty good and mostly match what you would see in an expanded notification on your phone.
The Show On Device I don't think I will get to be able to actually work to open the app on the phone....

Tried twice to install apk and it crashes my Note 3, it reboots on it's own and the apk is not installed .

Strange it doesn't do anything at my end.. I do not get any notifications. Could possibly show a short video of how it works??? Do I need to select the Email in Gear Manager .. Cause I aint getting any Noti's....

jawonder said:
Tried twice to install apk and it crashes my Note 3, it reboots on it's own and the apk is not installed .
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Hmm, have not seen any issues like this, and I have a Sprint Note 3. Can you try to re-download the apk?

Ok it works on my stock rom but not on roms i'm using in SafeStrap slots .

Jeshter2000 said:
Strange it doesn't do anything at my end.. I do not get any notifications. Could possibly show a short video of how it works??? Do I need to select the Email in Gear Manager .. Cause I aint getting any Noti's....
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Yes, you need Email selected in Gear Manager for it to work

Mmmm ok like ATN was in the first place??
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Under FilterList in the settings it states Pebble. FYI.

Ok, this does not work for me. Although it is probably because I running an S4 on 4.2 so far. Waiting for the update to be online.
I'll have to wait for the update to get me to 4.3 for the gear manager to work properly. I have limited functionality still
UPDATE : Well, email does not work, only get recipients name showing, but on the other hand, texting works (using sms pro)
But everything displays double, I mean I see the text and who is from and then under s separator I see it again with just a bit smaller fonts. Don't know why, maybe a setting I need to play with ?
I am glad at least for the texts for now.

Ok strange , after i boot into stock rom and then back to rom slot i installed .

cvondra said:
Under FilterList in the settings it states Pebble. FYI.
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LOL thanks, must have missed that one... It will work for the Gear even though it says Pebble.

I would like to point out that using this method if you use the stock browser it will talk to you and to the best of my knowledge there is no way to stop it.
Also last I knew if you were on a note 2 it will also talk when opening and closing folders and when switching home screens
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2

cherylbaker said:
I would like to point out that using this method if you use the stock browser it will talk to you and to the best of my knowledge there is no way to stop it.
Also last I knew if you were on a note 2 it will also talk when opening and closing folders and when switching home screens
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Crazy! I use Chrome so didn't notice but you are right. More research shows its a bug with Samsung. I'll switch over to the 4.3 method using the security setting in the next few days. Until then I suggest using Chrome.

Apps Wishlist

What would you like for the gear (Keep in mind its a Smart Watch not a Smart Phone)
My first pic is
Stolen Watch, if someone nicks it you can get it back

Whatsapp! Just want to share pics to contacts
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I want to get offline GPS navigation. Sygic unfortunately does not work..

hurdlejade said:
I want to get offline GPS navigation. Sygic unfortunately does not work..
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using the phone for the gps sensor?

1)Shake to wake, like the pebble. The current wake up makes my watch turn on way too often.
2)Expanded notifications without first tapping on the notification like how it is currently. I don't understand why I need to tap on it first before I can read the whole message. Just make them expanded/full notifications always, or at least make it an option.
3)There is too much of a delay for the media controller app. There's about a 1 second delay between pressing a button in the media controller app and having my phone actually change the song. The pebble does the song switch almost instantly. If this is due to the lower bandwidth of Bluetooth Low Energy, make it an option to turn off BLE and use only BT Classic. I would gladly give up battery life for faster notifications/control over my phone. This brings me to #4
4) Faster notifications. Sometimes I have a 1 second wait before a notification shows up on my watch after having already shown up on my phone. Again, if this is due to the limited bandwidth of BLE, make it an option to only work on BT classic.
Edit: Oh I misread the topic. I thought this was about changes to the Gear. I'll just leave this here anyways.

Me too, i would like a GPS guidance for walking.
An extention of Sygic will be really great.

I can honestly say I couldn't ask for much more from my watch.

I would like a keyboard to reply to msgs (from anything that shows up in notification center - email, text, hangouts, etc) - without having to bake in a whole new rom etc

NZ_Nitro said:
using the phone for the gps sensor?
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yup.

Something like Rain Alarm pro does on the sony smart watch. Yes you can get the alert when the app sees rain but the ability to see weather radar on the watch would be awesome!

Some questions about the gear

Thinking of getting either the Galaxy gear or pebble smartwatch for my note 3 and I hope someone can clarify some questions I have:
1. You have to swipe left and right to toggle through the app selection right? Is there a way to disable some of the apps to make them not appear when you're swiping? I don't normally use voice memo, svoice or gallery.
2. When playing music and the display of the gear turns off and you activate it again, will music toggle show on the home page / lock screen or do you have to swipe left/right a few times again to get to music control?
3. I understand the gear syncs with your phone, does that mean all read sms via the gear will also be marked as read on the phone? After you read the sms on your gear does it disappear or can you still access everything through the watch?
4. Is it annoying to have to flick your wrist everytime you wanna check the time?
5. Can you customize which apps you want sound / vibrate notifications from? Like sound only when getting sms and vibrate only when receiving phone calls?
I'm planning on using the gear while out jogging to easily switch music tracks, do you think it can withstand heavy sweat and a little shock?
Thanks

kingofthebraves said:
Thinking of getting either the Galaxy gear or pebble smartwatch for my note 3 and I hope someone can clarify some questions I have:
1. You have to swipe left and right to toggle through the app selection right? Is there a way to disable some of the apps to make them not appear when you're swiping? I don't normally use voice memo, svoice or gallery.
2. When playing music and the display of the gear turns off and you activate it again, will music toggle show on the home page / lock screen or do you have to swipe left/right a few times again to get to music control?
3. I understand the gear syncs with your phone, does that mean all read sms via the gear will also be marked as read on the phone? After you read the sms on your gear does it disappear or can you still access everything through the watch?
4. Is it annoying to have to flick your wrist everytime you wanna check the time?
5. Can you customize which apps you want sound / vibrate notifications from? Like sound only when getting sms and vibrate only when receiving phone calls?
I'm planning on using the gear while out jogging to easily switch music tracks, do you think it can withstand heavy sweat and a little shock?
Thanks
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1. Yes. You can use the gear manager to disable/enable which app you wanna show/hide
2. you have to swipe back again since the screen will turn on with default watch face
3. I use Chomp SMS so I can't comment on this. With Chomp, it won't dismiss on the phone even after you read on the watch or vice versa it won't dismiss on the watch even after you read on the phone.
4. Nope. it becomes second nature for me.
5. no you can't specify individual app control notification. You can choose sound, vibrate, both or silent.
Shock shouldn't be a problem. But sweat is the problem. What other members have done is wear a wrist sweat band and then wear the watch on top of it to protect.
Hope this helps.

kingofthebraves said:
Thinking of getting either the Galaxy gear or pebble smartwatch for my note 3 and I hope someone can clarify some questions I have:
1. You have to swipe left and right to toggle through the app selection right? Is there a way to disable some of the apps to make them not appear when you're swiping? I don't normally use voice memo, svoice or gallery.
2. When playing music and the display of the gear turns off and you activate it again, will music toggle show on the home page / lock screen or do you have to swipe left/right a few times again to get to music control?
3. I understand the gear syncs with your phone, does that mean all read sms via the gear will also be marked as read on the phone? After you read the sms on your gear does it disappear or can you still access everything through the watch?
4. Is it annoying to have to flick your wrist everytime you wanna check the time?
5. Can you customize which apps you want sound / vibrate notifications from? Like sound only when getting sms and vibrate only when receiving phone calls?
I'm planning on using the gear while out jogging to easily switch music tracks, do you think it can withstand heavy sweat and a little shock?
Thanks
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1. Yes, the apps you see are favourites and you can configure in Gear Manager
2. There is a music control app on the Gear. You would need to change option in settings to display last viewed screen (instead of main screen)
3. Can't remember as currently using unsupported phone. I think the answer is yes though for some notifications
4. It comes naturally
5. No
I've found sweat doesn't affect mine, but others say it can get in the little hole behind the camera and fog up lens (it goes away and doesn't affect the physical camera)

Thank you for responding to my queries.
So there's no way to incorporate music control while playing music on the home screen /watch face?
I plan on getting the gear primarily to answer phone calls while driving and controlling media while working out. Very disappointing
Are you satisfied with yours?

kingofthebraves said:
Thank you for responding to my queries.
So there's no way to incorporate music control while playing music on the home screen /watch face?
I plan on getting the gear primarily to answer phone calls while driving and controlling media while working out. Very disappointing
Are you satisfied with yours?
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What do you mean? It works the way it seems you want it to
http://ukm.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/...amsung-Galaxy-Gear-Black-Media-Controller.jpg
(but when playing/paused; background is cover and song title/artist appear at top of screen)
It is a million times better (and useful) than my Pebble - apart from the fact I need phone/rom with TouchWiz for full use (notifications, weather)

I want to be able to control my music instantly when I flick my wrist while something is playing, is this possible? Similar to the music control on our phones lock screen

kingofthebraves said:
I want to be able to control my music instantly when I flick my wrist while something is playing, is this possible? Similar to the music control on our phones lock screen
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Well, mine is set so that when I use motion to turn on (flick wrist) the last used screen comes on - just need to make sure that I opened media control initially
Can't do anything with playlists
You can try setting up Tasker profiles for anything more advanced

Brendo said:
Well, mine is set so that when I use motion to turn on (flick wrist) the last used screen comes on - just need to make sure that I opened media control initially
Can't do anything with playlists
You can try setting up Tasker profiles for anything more advanced
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Yeah I won't be needing the players. Just the basics
Thank you for the input guys, seems like I haven't met anyone who didn't enjoy their gears.
Are SMS and call logs stored on the watch or are they instantly deleted once you dismiss the notification

kingofthebraves said:
Are SMS and call logs stored on the watch or are they instantly deleted once you dismiss the notification
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As long as the phone is connected to the gear, any notifications it receives are archived (ie if you receive messages while not connected, the gear knows nothing about them). You can manually delete from archive

I think that notifications delete themselves after a while, as far as I can see they only seem to stay for around 2 days, which is fine
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markyboy81 said:
I think that notifications delete themselves after a while, as far as I can see they only seem to stay for around 2 days, which is fine
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I know emails will be marked read when they are viewed on the gear, not sure about SMS messages, cant rememeber.
Also a nice thing is when you get a message and you are looking at it on the gear, if you pick up your phone it automatically goes right to that message without having to do anything on the phone.

mhoepfin said:
I know emails will be marked read when they are viewed on the gear, not sure about SMS messages, cant rememeber.
Also a nice thing is when you get a message and you are looking at it on the gear, if you pick up your phone it automatically goes right to that message without having to do anything on the phone.
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Is this the smart relay feature? I can't seem to get it to work. The only way I can do it is to hit 'show on device' on the gear.
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But if you read an SMS from your gear it automatically gets marked as read on ur note right?

What do you use the gear mostly for?

For all you gear owners out there, after months of using it, would you still recommend it? I'm sure a lot of people are still on the fence about spending 300 dollars for a watch
What are your top 3 uses for your gear?

kingofthebraves said:
For all you gear owners out there, after months of using it, would you still recommend it? I'm sure a lot of people are still on the fence about spending 300 dollars for a watch
What are your top 3 uses for your gear?
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1. Making sure I hear all my text messages with my custom ring tone. (& and sometimes answering with a custom pre-made template)
2. making sure I hear it ring on an incoming call (with another custom ring tone.)
3, Answering as a speakerphone when a call comes in while I'm driving.
These are the thing I bought it for & it works super. All the other things like weather etc, are just icing on the cake.
Yes, I would buy it again (I bought it on the day it came out) and have recommended it to friends

Does it get annoying having to flick your wrist everytime to check your watch? Or did the recent updates improve everything?

kingofthebraves said:
Does it get annoying having to flick your wrist everytime to check your watch? Or did the recent updates improve everything?
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I only got my gear 2 days ago, but I don't understand the wrist flicking thing. My watch turns on when I bring it up into a position to look at it. No flicking required. I think it is great. I can't wait for the update for the notifications. Still deciding if the custom ROM is the way to go. I haven't seen yet if the NULL ROM affects battery life.
To answer op:
1)Notifications
2)time and weather
3)media control
4) shopping checklist. Currently via evernote but I am hoping for google keep app in the future.
5) I would like a qr code / barcode scanner.

1. Picking up chicks (all though not as successful as using glass haha)
2. Notifications
3. Quick access apps
Null_ rom makes it a million times more useful
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1. Notifications
2. Weather
3. Time
4. Covert silent pictures

1. See the time
2. Put my arm on a stupid position to make/answer calls
3. see notifications(o no, i can't with my htc one grrr)
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nitropollo said:
1. See the time
2. Put my arm on a stupid position to make/answer calls
3. see notifications(o no, i can't with my htc one grrr)
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I've read somewhere that is possible to connect gear to HTC one...
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Brendo said:
1. Picking up chicks (all though not as successful as using glass haha)
2. Notifications
3. Quick access apps
Null_ rom makes it a million times more useful
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What can you do with null rom? I read the page but since I don't have a gear yet am not sure what everything does.
The whole notification for Gmail, SMS, calendar fb and Whatsapp are now displayed thanks to the update right?
Is it possible to sideload Google keep?

kingofthebraves said:
What can you do with null rom? I read the page but since I don't have a gear yet am not sure what everything does.
The whole notification for Gmail, SMS, calendar fb and Whatsapp are now displayed thanks to the update right?
Is it possible to sideload Google keep?
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Yes, you can sideload anything - even with stock rom. Latest firmware+gear manager means you get notifications from all apps on phone
By using null, you get more of a stock android experience instead of a small/limited menu system from stock touchwiz launcher
Null_ offers stock plus everything in the features list. And if you don't like it, just flash back to stock - simple
Let's just say that I've been testing out a Nexus 5 and because of null, will be returning back to my s4 and the compatibility with gear

1) Time
2) Weather
3) Notifications (I almost never hear or feel my phone notifications.)
4) Phone Calls (Making calls when my hands are doing other things, driving, eating, typing, gaming, etc.)
5) Showing off
It does so much more than my old watch!
And yes, Null_ will make it much more useful, but I did EVERYTHING (root and flash ROM) last night before bed so IDK. Battery seems to be unchanged.

Xirix12 said:
1) Time
2) Weather
3) Notifications (I almost never hear or feel my phone notifications.)
4) Phone Calls (Making calls when my hands are doing other things, driving, eating, typing, gaming, etc.)
5) Showing off
It does so much more than my old watch!
And yes, Null_ will make it much more useful, but I did EVERYTHING (root and flash ROM) last night before bed so IDK. Battery seems to be unchanged.
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Checking your phone while viewing a notification with ur watch will automatically open the app /message on your phone right?

kingofthebraves said:
Checking your phone while viewing a notification with ur watch will automatically open the app /message on your phone right?
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If you are not on a custom ROM I believe that's what it does. I can't remember. With Null_ you can read the message and it gives you the option to open on the phone. I believe it gives you the option either way. I am trying to remember because I was on US stock version (Not sure about the number) then flashed UK version (V700XXUAMK7) but was on it for like 5 minutes before flashing Null_.

kingofthebraves said:
Checking your phone while viewing a notification with ur watch will automatically open the app /message on your phone right?
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Yes, that is smart relay and can be setup in gear manager
Xirix12 said:
If you are not on a custom ROM I believe that's what it does. I can't remember. With Null_ you can read the message and it gives you the option to open on the phone. I believe it gives you the option either way. I am trying to remember because I was on US stock version (Not sure about the number) then flashed UK version (V700XXUAMK7) but was on it for like 5 minutes before flashing Null_.
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Close. null_ has no effect on the notifications - they behave as they do in stock. Some apps show full notifications and no need to view on device, but option is there

Brendo said:
Yes, that is smart relay and can be setup in gear manager
Close. null_ has no effect on the notifications - they behave as they do in stock. Some apps show full notifications and no need to view on device, but option is there
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Any luck syncing Google keep?

kingofthebraves said:
Any luck syncing Google keep?
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I've not tried. It requires internet access though so would need to setup Bluetooth tethering

Brendo said:
Close. null_ has no effect on the notifications - they behave as they do in stock. Some apps show full notifications and no need to view on device, but option is there
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Oh true. I just watched a video and yea it's the same. Since I went from US version to UK version then Null_. I wasn't on the UK version long enough to notice the notifications. That's why I thought Null_ made this possible. This isn't the case for those not on the updated UK version. Before flashing the UK version my Gear would only show who it came from and the option to view on device.
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1) time
2) notifications
3)hands free phoning
4)run keeper
5)taking photos (hold finger over speaker to be sneaky )
6)media control (cool if you got some bluetooth speakers)
I have just had it for a few days now and it is more useful than I thought it would be.
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Why did YOU root your Gear?

just curious to know why some have rooted their gear. especially with the latest update that gives improvements. just got the watch and still learning it but might be tempted to root if there are reasons unbeknownst to me that improves the watch even further

I rooted it so that I can put null Rom on it. That really opened up the watch for me.
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Rooted for adding a theme. The stock icons look like crap and wanted to sideload apps for ringtones, music, videos and notification sounds.
Ian B

I did just to try them null rom. After that I regret it. Although I didn't know you needed root to Install ringtones thanx
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I rooted it to put the Null_ ROM on it, because it looked really nice from the screenshots, and also I thought if i ever wanted to get a non Samsung phone then this would be the way to do it.
However it's not all it cracked up to be.. for the most part for the Null_ ROM extras to be useful you need to have bluetooth internet tethering enabled on the phone which will drain more battery on both devices, and if it disconnects you have to dive into the settings on both to enable it again. all the cool stuff where the phone just tells the watch about things (eg notifications, events, weather, contacts, etc) via bluetooth require a 4.3 TW ROM on your phone, and can be done without the Null_ ROM.
You also lose the double tap power button to open S-Voice, but this might be fixable by disabling the "Power button mod", whatever that is. I haven't looked too deeply - I have just setup a Nova gesture where you double tap the screen to open up S-Voice.
I think my watch looks nicer now with the ROM as you can choose wallpapers, but in my Nova dock i literally just have all the original apps that came with the phone, and the main widget is one of the original clock faces (the event one), i only have a second screen with a shortcut for going into the settings in case i need to enable BT internet, and a battery widget (which i can see by double two finger tapping the screen anyway).
I think the minimalist text widget that fOmey has in the screenshots on the Null_ thread look awesome, but they're just not useful enough. The next event widget is exactly what I need (apart from the time), and the ONLY way you can have a next event widget without requiring internet on the watch is to use the built in widget. If you're gonna use the built in widget, why flash a different ROM at all?
ahh .. anyway. I won't be flashing back to stock, but if i had my choice again.. i dunno if i'd bother.

i put root and null rom on it so i don't have to return it to the store.
even after gear manager updates, stock watch is a overpriced notifier on your wrist.
after rooting it i customize it the way i want it, i have access to mostly used apps, i can use apps that were not designed to be used with gear and much more.

i dunno, wanted root. i feel powerless without root
rooted every device since my gs1. And i know myself enough that i know that at some point i am going to get bored with the stock rom, and will start to customize the things i dont like.
then i want to know how;
the clock functions,
to get out of bootloops,
to simplify the process of adding apps not officially supported.
to theme elements.
to flash custom rom
to revert to stock.
now im prepared

Question, do you have to root in order to flash the recovery and null? Or I can just flan both without root? Also how do you return back to stock? Thanks in advanced...
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Mainly because of NULL rom. For me, without it Galaxy Gear would be useless! (and because after my first root, I root all devices, it gives to you the real power of the gadget!)

RiNo808 said:
Question, do you have to root in order to flash the recovery and null? Or I can just flan both without root?
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You need root.
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I rooted to flash null as well and the only thing I like about it is you can record in 720p. But I don't see too much advantage since my tmobile note3 doesn't seem to have bluetooth tethering option so I can't take advantage of any null app that require data. Didn't like have Nova Launcher as it's just too small of a screen to do anything. That's why I bought a note3 as I wanted a bigger screen. So I mainly use tw on the gear. Besides the 720p recording and seeing all the extra app in the app list is cool but not a necessity. But I'm going to keep it like this for now.
Also forgot to add another advantage with null is shutter sound is gone. You can also achieve this without null but you need to root.
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Guys, I just have my new Samsung Gear after christmas, it works very well, still happy with battery life (around 3 days). Though I miss having a keyboard to reply SMS / Emails, or do some web search.
My question is...
If I want to keep everything as it is;
- default Samsung stuff, default clock widgets
- default auto Bluetooth connection (at least Gear <-> Note 3 do that automatically...)
but* I want to:
- install a keyboard to normally reply my SMS/Emails
- do some simple websearching, with Opera / Dolphin, etc. (My phone has BT teethring)
Can I do that just by roothing my device?

the Gear is really a device that RECEIVES things - notifications, updates to display, etc. If you want to use it to SEND things, then you'll really have to root it and put on the Null_ ROM. With this you can enable bluetooth internet tethering, and the Gear can get full internet. With internet you can install apps like an email client and a keyboard (these actually come with Null_), and respond to emails etc on the Gear. Note: it's very fiddly using a keyboard on the Gear, even with swype style input.
Also regarding SMS, this can't really be done on the Gear as you would expect. As the Gear has no SIM card, you'd need an app on the Gear to talk to your phone and tell it to send the SMS.
But, you can actually do this via S-Voice. So if you're happy talking your SMS to the phone (which isn't too bad in my experience), you can get S-Voice to use your phone to send an SMS.

I rooted mine because I wanted to be able to start my car from my watch, along with hooking it up with Torque to see my times. Being able to add wallpapers is nice too

omniwolf said:
the Gear is really a device that RECEIVES things ... If you want to use it to SEND things ... and tell it to send the SMS....you can get S-Voice to use your phone to send an SMS.
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Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.

mmick said:
Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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I answer texts with svoice all the time. Does svoice work on your device? I've used it to call a contact, narrated a # to dial, and responded to texts.
I can honestly say that there is nothing missing from my stock gear that I wish I had.
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mmick said:
Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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I think you can use tablettalk for that
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mmick said:
Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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yeah, i know the Gear can send things to the watch, it's a BT connection with is bidirectional. My point is that without rooting, the gear isn't designed to send things, it's more of a receiver. 90% of the things done on it are incoming, not outgoing. Sure, all photos go the other direction, and using S-Voice you can create a bunch of things on the watch, but it's the minority.
I think i've alread answered all your other questions, so i won't rehash (more), but it really seems like you want Samsung to add a bunch of outgoing functionality to the watch, which is fine by me, i think a lot of it would be useful.
Yes S-Voice works for me, make sure it's installed and usable on your phone before trying it on the watch.

To free myself of Gear Manager
BT tether + tablet talk = profit

So worth it...
-Null ROM's feature set
-Bluetooth internet tethering (from a U.S. carrier stock ROM with BT tethering option nuked)
-Use with non Samsung device (probably going back to Nexus soon)
S voice is way too limited (even worse on the watch). Google Now and Internet access makes the watch worth the price tag. 300 bucks with a little research and now I can say "Can your Rolex do this?" So worth it...

tkjeeper said:
I answer texts with svoice all the time. Does svoice work on your device? I've used it to call a contact, narrated a # to dial, and responded to texts.
I can honestly say that there is nothing missing from my stock gear that I wish I had.
Sent from my SM-N900W8 using xda app-developers app
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I wish S-Voice worked for me. It doesn't hear me well and I keep getting "I didn't catch that" even when I just want to confirm to send a text.
It gets frustrating.