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So with my Droid x I could look at my battery usage and routinely see that powering the screen took between 80%-92% daily of my battery life. Big screen...made sense. 30% larger extended battery would last me 10 hours with moderate use
With the bionic, according to my battery usage. Cell standby takes 40% of my battery and phones idle takes 37%. Display only uses 6%. What the hell? So that's why my 2880mAh battery only lasts me 5 hours, with little to no usage for 4 of them. If i turn on wifi, the 3g icon stays (turned off 4g altogether since I only use data at work and it out of 4g range). And I will see it actively syncing many times even when I am doing nothing. Going into airplane more and back live again just makes it pause, starts syncing again immediately. Reboot and its fine for 3 hours then starts again.
What the hell? Do I have a dud? Should I do a wipe of the device a few times and hope it is a software glitch? Cause this is pissing me off that a brick extended battery won't even last me six hours. And I'm barely using it for 4 to 5 of them. Should I return it and exchange for another? Or return it and just get an incredible HD when they launch? Though that will probably have equally bad battery life. I am rooted and everything is backed up so a wipe won't take long to restore.
Also has been doing this since I got it 4 days ago. Have fully drained and fully charged the battery numerous time with no real change.
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Well first of all the display on the Bionic is RGBW pentile which uses much less power than traditional RGB LCD's. So it makes sense that as the percentage of power consumed by the battery decreases the other things like cell standby and phone idle would increase. It has to total 100%.
That said if you only get 5 hours on an extended battery with light use then your phone is defective or possibly a third-party app you installed is misbehaving.
I am at nearly 15 hours with 40% left on a standard battery with 4G on and 1.5 hours of screen on. All I did was root and de-bloat (around 30 apps).
I have the extended battery and get about 12 hours of heavy video and streaming audio, web browsing, maps, E-Mail, texts & calls. This is split about 50/50 4G & WiFi. I have no idea how you're only getting 5 hours. That almost seams impossible to me. Like the above post says, maybe you have an app that isn't shutting down? I am not sure but something is DEFINITELY not normal
But if it was an app behaving badly shouldn't it show up on the battery usage log thing? I'm gonna wipe when my shift ends at 8 am and see how it lasts today with only Go SMS installed. If it is dead in a few hours again I know for sure its the phone or battery. If it lasts then I get to start the painful proccess of adding apps back one at a time until I find the culprit.
Thanks for the advice. 5 hours seems impossible to me too, but that is all it lasts. Freaking me out that it is eating so much. Maybe ill try the stock battery later. Maybe its just the battery that is FUBAR'd
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Legato Bluesummers said:
So with my Droid x I could look at my battery usage and routinely see that powering the screen took between 80%-92% daily of my battery life. Big screen...made sense. 30% larger extended battery would last me 10 hours with moderate use
With the bionic, according to my battery usage. Cell standby takes 40% of my battery and phones idle takes 37%. Display only uses 6%. What the hell? So that's why my 2880mAh battery only lasts me 5 hours, with little to no usage for 4 of them. If i turn on wifi, the 3g icon stays (turned off 4g altogether since I only use data at work and it out of 4g range). And I will see it actively syncing many times even when I am doing nothing. Going into airplane more and back live again just makes it pause, starts syncing again immediately. Reboot and its fine for 3 hours then starts again.
What the hell? Do I have a dud? Should I do a wipe of the device a few times and hope it is a software glitch? Cause this is pissing me off that a brick extended battery won't even last me six hours. And I'm barely using it for 4 to 5 of them. Should I return it and exchange for another? Or return it and just get an incredible HD when they launch? Though that will probably have equally bad battery life. I am rooted and everything is backed up so a wipe won't take long to restore.
Also has been doing this since I got it 4 days ago. Have fully drained and fully charged the battery numerous time with no real change.
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You ran the Blockbuster app, didn't you?
I've read an article or two speculating about the possibility of a batch of Bionics with bad radios that chew up battery. Everyone I've read about that returned their Bionic for this reason has experienced a reversal in their battery experience. Sounds like you should do this as well.
Like the others, mine is like the energizer bunny until I start messing with games and streaming video.
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You ran the Blockbuster app, didn't you?
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Never. LoL I don't run bloatware.
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Those with "bad" radios will obviously have a bad radio if their battery life is crap correct? My Bionic seems to do ok with battery life, but I still can't manage to get what all these other users are getting with the stock battery.
Maybe I'm a heavy user that's in denial of being a "light" user...
My battery life with the extended battery is amazing.
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I've read an article or two speculating about the possibility of a batch of Bionics with bad radios that chew up battery. Everyone I've read about that returned their Bionic for this reason has experienced a reversal in their battery experience. Sounds like you should do this as well.
Like the others, mine is like the energizer bunny until I start messing with games and streaming video.
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I am having the same problem. I am going to give them a call on Monday.
Fixed it. Ran the bootstrap app to get into clockwork. Did a factory reset a few times over to make sure it was all clear. Loaded only the bare apps I needed onto phone and battery went from 7am Sunday morning til 10pm and only lost 50%. XD so it was definitely an app playing badly.
I put almost all my 180 some odd apps back on with titanium. But any that do any kind of syncing I downloaded freshly and didn't transfer any data, started brand new there too. So far today unplugged phone at 2am at work, its almost ten now and its only fallen to 50%. Granted I have far more stuff installed now and wwas using it a bit at work. Not too bad. Want to see how much longer it will go
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How long should the standard battery last with average use?
I unplugged at 6AM with full charge. Ran only 3G until 10:30am and was at 50%. My usage was nominal- few texts, no phone, few emails, about 10 minutes of internet, 30 minutes of Sirius.
At 10:30am I switched to 4G just to test the battery life. The phone mostly sat idle, but the remaining 50% drained in about 1.5 hours.
Does 4G really use that much power... even when the device is sitting idle? If so, then what's the point of making such great 4G devices if the batteries can't keep up?
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How long should the standard battery last with average use?
I unplugged at 6AM with full charge. Ran only 3G until 10:30am and was at 50%. My usage was nominal- few texts, no phone, few emails, about 10 minutes of internet, 30 minutes of Sirius.
At 10:30am I switched to 4G just to test the battery life. The phone mostly sat idle, but the remaining 50% drained in about 1.5 hours.
Does 4G really use that much power... even when the device is sitting idle? If so, then what's the point of making such great 4G devices if the batteries can't keep up?
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damn, that's fast
with a regular battery, and going in, and out of 4g coverage mine will run from 8am to 11pm and still be over 50 percent, of course that's with light to moderate use
What is the definition of "light to moderate" use?
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ROB281 said:
damn, that's fast
with a regular battery, and going in, and out of 4g coverage mine will run from 8am to 11pm and still be over 50 percent, of course that's with light to moderate use
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Were you getting that battery life from day 1? Today is day 4 with my Bionic. People say it can take up to a week for your phone/battery to calibrate, but I've never had to calibrate the battery on other phones.
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What is the definition of "light to moderate" use?
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roughly 20 texts, 5-10 calls, maybe an hour of Facebook throughout the day, a couple hours of web surfing, and maybe an hour of gaming
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Were you getting that battery life from day 1? Today is day 4 with my Bionic. People say it can take up to a week for your phone/battery to calibrate, but I've never had to calibrate the battery on other phones.
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can't say for sure but I know my battery was lasting a hell of a lot longer than 5-6 hours from day 1
I have the extended battery. I get great battery life when playing games, streaming video, listening to pandora, web surfing and phone calls. I am in a 3g area only. But when it comes to just idle time it seems like its using almost twice the amount of battery life as my droid x did. My droid x with the extended battery would drop 10 to 20% while idle from 11:30 pm to 7:30am. My bionic last night, I went to bed at 11:30pm and had 80% with extended battery, I woke up at 7:30am and was at 40%???
Does that sound right?? Also when using wifi the battery drops faster, should it use more battery on wifi or 3g? I have never used any bloatware and have the same apps installed as my droid x.
I'm having the same problem with my phone. 5.5 hours of battery with little to no use. i have to keep my phone on a charger throughout the day.... a power charger. the phone will die if just connected via usb.
Have you guys calibrated the new battery? There is also a neat little calibration trick in the x2 forums, works like a charm.
Google "juhde battery" and it should show up. Can't recommend it enough...
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Well first of all the display on the Bionic is RGBW pentile which uses much less power than traditional RGB LCD's. So it makes sense that as the percentage of power consumed by the battery decreases the other things like cell standby and phone idle would increase. It has to total 100%.
That said if you only get 5 hours on an extended battery with light use then your phone is defective or possibly a third-party app you installed is misbehaving.
I am at nearly 15 hours with 40% left on a standard battery with 4G on and 1.5 hours of screen on. All I did was root and de-bloat (around 30 apps).
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Can you please post your battery usage statistics for Voice calls and Cell standby?
I'm interested to see where I stand also..
Thanks,
So we have all read reviews of the device and the battery performance. From all the reviews I read with various takes on the battery life, I can conclude one thing: HTC One has amazing stand by time but the 1080p screen undeniably consumes significant amount of power.
In other words, the best way to save power is not to use it. But you guys have better solutions, battery pack? battery case? which brand? Please share your thoughts.
I use a 7000mAh power bank from A-Solar.
With this, I can charge two phones or cameras.
http://www.a-solar.eu/EN/portable_power
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So we have all read reviews of the device and the battery performance. From all the reviews I read with various takes on the battery life, I can conclude one thing: HTC One has amazing stand by time but the 1080p screen undeniably consumes significant amount of power.
In other words, the best way to save power is not to use it. But you guys have better solutions, battery pack? battery case? which brand? Please share your thoughts.
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Use power saver setting, it'll save you at least 15% more battery!
I have been playing with mine non-stop (revision ) and a full day is easily doable.
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I have been playing with mine non-stop (revision ) and a full day is easily doable.
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What do you mean by revision?
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What do you mean by revision?
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As in im supposed to be revising for exams, as a uni student, and therefore have had alot of time procrastinating, playing with the phone .
Since ive had mine last week, ive non stop been using it, playing games, using camera, and normal day to day activities, and i must say, im sooo impressed with the battery over the One X,
For example, my One x would come off charge about 7am, by 4 - 5pm i would be charging it again. On my One i take it off the same time, and dont need to charge it till im in bed, approx 11pm - 12am.
Its brill!
Here's some of the things i've been doing since the hero days, a lot of you will know these but here they are anyway
Turn off auto brightness, move it to as low as you can bare.
Switch off all wireless controls when not in use. 3G, GPS, BT, Wifi, NFC.
Turn all email and syncs to manual (personally i leave google alone)
Try not to have a live wallpaper
Try to reduce the amount of active widgets you have.
If possible don't install apps with ads all over them, especially with push notifications, 10 or so of these on your phone can cause real problems with battery.
Use autostarts (responsibly) to reduce what starts up and when for example: Wild blood and Nova 3 (both paid for games) start up with your phone, nuke them with autostarts, there are many more.
Give your phone some full cycles of charge every now and again.
Don't use task killers and always close apps unless you really need to go back to it.
Install better battery stats and check for wakelocks, deal with them and then remove better battery stats, periodically check for them, once a month or every flash.
Try not to overcharge, if youre really picky then get a timed socket, so it'll only charge for the time that you set it to.
There are more but you get the picture, i personally get about 24 hours roughly, maybe more, i tend to charge at night time, this being my third HTC One, and that is roughly the average i got.
Hope this helps.
Fix your wakelocks, use the powersaver mode but only check data connection and CPU settings, only select reduce brightness if you're willing to deal with incredibly difficult sunlight visibility.
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Here's some of the things i've been doing since the hero days, a lot of you will know these but here they are anyway
Turn off auto brightness, move it to as low as you can bare.
Switch off all wireless controls when not in use. 3G, GPS, BT, Wifi, NFC.
Turn all email and syncs to manual (personally i leave google alone)
Try not to have a live wallpaper
Try to reduce the amount of active widgets you have.
If possible don't install apps with ads all over them, especially with push notifications, 10 or so of these on your phone can cause real problems with battery.
Use autostarts (responsibly) to reduce what starts up and when for example: Wild blood and Nova 3 (both paid for games) start up with your phone, nuke them with autostarts, there are many more.
Give your phone some full cycles of charge every now and again.
Don't use task killers and always close apps unless you really need to go back to it.
Install better battery stats and check for wakelocks, deal with them and then remove better battery stats, periodically check for them, once a month or every flash.
Try not to overcharge, if youre really picky then get a timed socket, so it'll only charge for the time that you set it to.
There are more but you get the picture, i personally get about 24 hours roughly, maybe more, i tend to charge at night time, this being my third HTC One, and that is roughly the average i got.
Hope this helps.
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Most of these are decent. Recommending full charge cycles is not. There is no reason to drain to nothing and then charge to full. In fact, that represents a full charge cycle, and each battery has a limited number of cycles it will do. The more you do it, the more the battery degrades.
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Most of these are decent. Recommending full charge cycles is not. There is no reason to drain to nothing and then charge to full. In fact, that represents a full charge cycle, and each battery has a limited number of cycles it will do. The more you do it, the more the battery degrades.
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Agree on the first part... cycling isn't good, it also increases heat in battery which will only degrade the life of the battery, only good that comes out of it is that the battery percentage is correct, meaning it is used to make sure that the percentage you're seeing is correct but the battery life will stay the same.
Also, I thought that a charger cuts out once it has charged the phone, and so overcharging is not possible
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Most of these are decent. Recommending full charge cycles is not. There is no reason to drain to nothing and then charge to full. In fact, that represents a full charge cycle, and each battery has a limited number of cycles it will do. The more you do it, the more the battery degrades.
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Well i've been doing the same thing for my whole life and i've had mobile phones for a long time and the battery for me has never been an issue.
I'm not saying to cycle it all the time, but i would do it every now and again, bare in mind that the battery will degrade after around a year anyway, even worse after two. There isn't a lot you can do in that time that will change that.
Cycling isn't going to hurt the battery at all.
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Also, I thought that a charger cuts out once it has charged the phone, and so overcharging is not possible
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Well if you pop into a phone shop and notice that the screens on the phones sometimes become a bit dodgy, up until you remove the charging cable at least, and then it begins to work again.
Plus the batteries degrade heavily on those phones that have been charged all the time, so over charging definitely has an impact on your battery.
I don't care what anyone says about it not taking charge, overcharging is bad for your phone, excessive over charging anyway.
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Also, I thought that a charger cuts out once it has charged the phone, and so overcharging is not possible
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Well if you pop into a phone shop and notice that the screens on the phones sometimes become a bit dodgy, up until you remove the charging cable at least, and then it begins to work again.
Plus the batteries degrade heavily on those phones that have been charged all the time, so over charging definitely has an impact on your battery.
I don't care what anyone says about it not taking charge, overcharging is bad for your phone, excessive over charging anyway.
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Well i've been doing the same thing for my whole life and i've had mobile phones for a long time and the battery for me has never been an issue.
I'm not saying to cycle it all the time, but i would do it every now and again, bare in mind that the battery will degrade after around a year anyway, even worse after two. There isn't a lot you can do in that time that will change that.
Cycling isn't going to hurt the battery at all.
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Well if you pop into a phone shop and notice that the screens on the phones sometimes become a bit dodgy, up until you remove the charging cable at least, and then it begins to work again.
Plus the batteries degrade heavily on those phones that have been charged all the time, so over charging definitely has an impact on your battery.
I don't care what anyone says about it not taking charge, overcharging is bad for your phone, excessive over charging anyway.
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Well if you pop into a phone shop and notice that the screens on the phones sometimes become a bit dodgy, up until you remove the charging cable at least, and then it begins to work again.
Plus the batteries degrade heavily on those phones that have been charged all the time, so over charging definitely has an impact on your battery.
I don't care what anyone says about it not taking charge, overcharging is bad for your phone, excessive over charging anyway.
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Cycling the battery does nothing for the run time except degrade it. Obviously, occasionally, isn't going to make a difference. But lets not pretend that running the battery all the way down and then charging it back up does anything at all except to use up a full charge cycle.
You're also using overcharge incorrectly. Overcharging is going beyond the limit of the battery, and this often results in flames. What you're talking about is constantly topping off while on charger overnight. So like 100>99>98>100>99>98>100 etc. That is bad for the battery, yes.
All cycling does for ur battery is make sure ur battery is reporting it's level correctly.. Nothing else. It's useful after flashing custom roms.. But it doesn't improve ur battery life or time.
I would always cycle my new phone for a few charges but after that I wouldn't bother. I've nearly always had an extra battery kit but obviously u can't do it with the htc one.
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It's strange that battery lives are variant according to your feedback, my guess is because the screen panels are from variant manufacturer.
As for myself, unplugged at 7:30am, by about 9pm I usually have less then 25%, 3hrs web surfing (using 3G), around 20 min call, one hour gaming and some texts. I think moderate would be a better word for One's battery. Sure a big improvement of One X but still no where near iPhone 5
人云奕云 said:
It's strange that battery lives are variant according to your feedback, my guess is because the screen panels are from variant manufacturer.
As for myself, unplugged at 7:30am, by about 9pm I usually have less then 25%, 3hrs web surfing (using 3G), around 20 min call, one hour gaming and some texts. I think moderate would be a better word for One's battery. Sure a big improvement of One X but still no where near iPhone 5
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Iphone 5? Can we not go there plz!
My friend an iphone die hard fan gets 8 hours max, moderate usage, nothing wrong with his iphone either, which is normal. Battery life is pants on iphone.
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Cycling the battery does nothing for the run time except degrade it. Obviously, occasionally, isn't going to make a difference. But lets not pretend that running the battery all the way down and then charging it back up does anything at all except to use up a full charge cycle.
You're also using overcharge incorrectly. Overcharging is going beyond the limit of the battery, and this often results in flames. What you're talking about is constantly topping off while on charger overnight. So like 100>99>98>100>99>98>100 etc. That is bad for the battery, yes.
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Youre literally confirming what i've already written? Stop trying to grab brownie points lad.
cycling the battery isn't going to hurt it if you do it every now and again (LIKE I SAID) as another user has said, it helps with stats and calibration.
To save the battery life , Is it ok to charge the phone even if the battery has 40 percent ? Or I should recharge it when it is less than 15 percent ?
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To save the battery life , Is it ok to charge the phone even if the battery has 40 percent ? Or I should recharge it when it is less than 15 percent ?
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Exactly,
I always (try to) charge my phone when battery shows in between (15-20%). I keep it plugged in for 1.5 hours till it reaches 95%+
Charging at 40% means you have used one of the charging cycle of a battery and i've read somewhere that every battery has 1000 charging cycles..
Yes..its better not to go there..
My friend uses iPhone 5 and he gets like one whole day with moderate usage (2 hours 3G, 1 hour of gaming, 2 Hours music.,30 minutes of calling & whatsapp ) .. i think the term moderate is different for everyone..
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Iphone 5? Can we not go there plz!
My friend an iphone die hard fan gets 8 hours max, moderate usage, nothing wrong with his iphone either, which is normal. Battery life is pants on iphone.
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Just throwing this out there... I have a Nexus 5 here has pretty poor battery, mostly when it comes to the screen time. Barely getting 2 hours per charge. In fact, I called google today and they are going to replace it; more on that in a bit.
I've tried stock, CM11, CM11 w/chaos kernel, paranoid w/franco kernel - neither is better than the other.. fter seeing some people on stock + franco and other combinations getting 6-7 hours of screen time it got me thinking. Could we be seeing a set of battery manufacturing defects? Google has already changed the speaker grill and button designs [ironically, my Nexus 5 that was ordered 1 week ago came w/the smaller speaker grill and loose buttons].
However, I'm wondering if there was a bad batch of batteries out there? If I didn't get an exchange from google I was going to pop this phone open and replace the battery with a new one just to prove a point. When I spoke to google today, they thought that a 20% drop in about 30 minutes of use was excessive, which I have to agree.
Ideas? Thoughts?
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[quote name="wdwms" post=51191930]I'm wondering if all the variances in battery life we are seeing could be a sign of a broader issue - a large batch of defective batteries?
opened this thread for thoughts/comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2686119[/QUOTE]
Nope. Its the variances in usage and settings. Guaranteed.
I got 6 hours screen time plus on my Moto x....always. with no changes whatsoever, my wife gets 4 1/2. Why? 90 percent of my use was tapatalk. Mostly just text. 90 percent of her use is Facebook, mostly images....with text. Images take more power to load than text.
That primary difference in our usage patterns made a consistent hour and half screen time difference. Oh....and she makes a few calls, I barely ever had or made calls.
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Not meaning to debunk your theory....there are occasional defects....but mostly the huge differences are usage and settings.
The guys getting 6 hours plus screen time usually are running with most services off or frozen. Dim screens. Obviously not gaming much or at all. Not using location services or navigating. These things can make giant differences in battery life.
I suggest getting gsam. And doing a full discharge with it and doing some screen shots at the end. I'm betting if you think you have an issue that can be solved.....or its your particular usage patterns.
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I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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I was using auto....and yeah, generally it's not to bad....now. I think 4.4.2 improved it....doesn't Jack up to full as much.
Then I saw someone mention "display brightness" app ....its awesome. A little slider always on my screen. Love it!
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I get 6 hours screen on time on the reggie. Location left on (high accuracy) and same with Google now. I think the only things I have turned off in Google now are search history and location reporting. NFC off. Auto brightness. I agree with kj its based on your usage. I really only use my phone for tapatalk or texting mainly. Some Facebook (not really too into it) emails and a liiiitle bit of gaming.. I also use custom kernels and slightly undervolt. My phone can take -25 across the board and 675mV at 300mhz. I mostly UV for heating purposes when I game. (Addicted to robot unicorn attack 2 and smash it). Also don't use any kind of tap or swipe to wake (KILLS battery on this phone). Plus I always charge with USB. I read somewhere that lithium ion batteries discharge slower if they are charged with USB as opposed to AC. That and I don't have free A/C slots in my man cave. Just a USB port to from my PlayStation to a qi wireless charger. Yes it takes a while....
your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.
Unless you heavily use GPS or voice calls, 2 hours SoT is too low. To get that you probably have a rogue processes preventing the phone from sleeping. In comparison, I've used the phone to game for over 3 hours on a charge.
Once that's out of the way and if you're still not happy with the battery life you're seeing ask yourself: what's running on my phone that I don't really need?
Every frivolous widget, forgotten service, or Google Now card is going to use some amount of battery and they add up on a limited power source.
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your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.
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That's a great point @simms22, don't think people factor into the equation quality of reception. In China on crappy HSPA+ with 1 bar, I'm lucky to get 3-4 SOT. In Los Angeles on an excellent LTE connection I can get 5-6 SOT. So reception adds 2 hrs of SOT in my case.
OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).
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Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).
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Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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kj2112 said:
Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?
wdwms said:
My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)
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Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.
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I just said in another post about this.....I hope the "fix" doesn't end up messing up my current amazing battery life. LOL.
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wdwms said:
Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)
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Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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bblzd said:
Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
Moto G battery life is mainly due to its considerably less powerful specifications.
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It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
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I stand corrected. I will do my own test using only 3g tomorrow night. Thanks for the info.
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It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the LG V10 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'll leave this here..
Edit. Auto brightness under Florida Sun. Facebook, ebay and reading posting on xda.
Details: Not rooted, bootloader locked, wifi off, sync auto on, 2nd screen stock, location on, LTE on T-mobile, vibration strength stick, vibration with sound, vibration type rapid, vibrate on tap, sound effects dialpad sounds rest off, wifi calling on
Brightness set at 20%, no Auto brightness, 2nd screen on the whole time, Verizon 4G LTE the entire time (no wifi)
Screen on time is a failed meter for battery life.. I can run navigation on all day and have the screen off. I will show less screen time no matter what.. Same goes if you're listening to music while the screen sleeps.. Anyway the avg Lg phone with this battery gets you about 2.5-4.5 hrs of screen time depending on your usage. Same as G3 and 4.. Lg has excellent standby time, but horrible screen time. If you actually use your phone, these will be your results.. I go into different lighting every few minutes so I have to adjust my brightness. No way you can keep it on one setting all day unless you're not going anywhere..ever..
Comparison video Note 5 vs LG V10 vs. Nexus 6P SOT Battery Test!
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Screen on time is a failed meter for battery life.. I can run navigation on all day and have the screen off. I will show less screen time no matter what.. Same goes if you're listening to music while the screen sleeps.. Anyway the avg Lg phone with this battery gets you about 2.5-4.5 hrs of screen time depending on your usage. Same as G3 and 4.. Lg has excellent standby time, but horrible screen time. If you actually use your phone, these will be your results.. I go into different lighting every few minutes so I have to adjust my brightness. No way you can keep it on one setting all day unless you're not going anywhere..ever..
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thats my analysis. I thought going from the g3 to LG v10 would give that galaxy note 5 or s6 edge life...nope. still averaging about 2.5 to 3.5 total use is around 7-9.
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Comparison video Note 5 vs LG V10 vs. Nexus 6P SOT Battery Test!
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i saw that vid and most review sites state the same
Stock no root
BeameD From My LG V10... The one with the ALWAYS ON SCREEN... Watching me.. ?
I am getting around 5 hours of sot time.
5h 48min sot with 15h30 overall on the battery...beast!!!!
do you have GPS, Auto-Sync, Location on or off, and the second screen. That would help us determine what's best
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I'm getting 3.25 to 4.0 SOT with about 10-11hrs battery usage. GPS off, Screen on auto, location off, sync off and I turn sync on once a hour. I'm rooted
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I forgot to screenshot it but I got 20hrs +3hrs SOT bluetooth,location,sync and autobrightness on yesterday. VERY impressed coming from the Note 4, was rooted and bloat free.
Stock barely 3 days old
Results seem good, at least matching the Note 5's. But honestly the G2 still smokes all of these results. I got 19h of use with 1h45m of SOT yesterday... and 74% remaining. Not even kidding. And not even rooted, 5.0.2 stock.
3 hours SOT
I have BT on, wifi on, location on and auto brightness on. Volte is off. I have 2 sim cards installed. My phone is not rooted.
I will get about 3 hours SOT and about 15 hours battery life per day.
I needed to install Greenify to get these results. Before Greenify I was barely getting 8 hours, which was a little depressing.
I do carry a spare battery though, but I would expect a little more than 8 hours from a 3000mah battery.
Right now battery life is mostly on par with my previous Note4. I didn't use need to use Greenify on the Note4 though. I had the same features turned on with the N4 as I have with the V10.
I feel that the N4 had better standby time. Perhaps the 2nd screen on the LG is drawing extra power, but I actually find it useful so am happy to keep this on.
This current setup is working ok for me. I'm not frugal with the use of the phone. Firstly because I really enjoy using this phone and secondly, having a removable battery is the lightest and easiest solution for not worrying too much about running out of power. Tethering to an external power brick is most annoying.
Having said that, it's still an interesting challenge to eke the best out a smartphone battery.
I can see others here are getting 5 hours SOT out of their phones.
I suspect a lot of the features I have turned on have reduced my SOT, but if some of you have a similar setup to mine and have better SOT I would love to know of other useful tweaks that I could try.
5-6 hours, depending on what I'm doing. Unfortunately I treat it like it has a big battery, and usually by the end of the day I'm getting pretty low.
I'm glad that it comes with such a fast charger, and I'm looking forward to getting my spare battery.
I'm lucky to get 3 hours off a full charge.
More than 5 hours all day everyday
nazrin313 said:
More than 5 hours all day everyday
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Show us your average. Also what apps are running. You can stare at a single page or photo all day and get 5hrs SOT everyday anyday
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full spec
you could refer to the full spec of v10 on phonearena
Hi all,
I having issue with my note 9, and I’m new to using note, is a 4% drain normal? Unplug at 12am and not use since and this morning I check battery was at 96% at 6.45am
How long have you had it. It takes some time for it to do battery optimizations but that drain doesn't seem too bad.
tat is only my 2nd or 3rd charge, have it only for 2 or 3 day
I have been draining about .7% an hour since I got it. I wish it was little bit better but the SOT more than makes up for it.
Sorry, but what is SOT? Screen on time?
So now on android ppl use SOT to measure if a battery usage is normal?
YoshiYino said:
Hi all,
I having issue with my note 9, and I’m new to using note, is a 4% drain normal? Unplug at 12am and not use since and this morning I check battery was at 96% at 6.45am
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Just leave it plugged in all night
TechOut said:
Just leave it plugged in all night
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So the drain is normal?
YoshiYino said:
So the drain is normal?
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i usually get 1/2% overnight but when i had outlook installed i was loosing about 20% could be a app but 4 percent isnt something i would be concerned with... do you have AOD enabled?
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i usually get 1/2% overnight but when i had outlook installed i was loosing about 20% could be a app but 4 percent isnt something i would be concerned with... do you have AOD enabled?
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AOD = OFF
Screen resolution = set to HD, (not FHD/UHD)
I have the same issue
I have snapdragon n9600ss first I have enabled AOD and sleep like 2 am and wakeup 8 am check and 90%
I disable AOD and now have 94%
It's the same percentage I have with my old s9 but with AOD so I don't really happy with battery
I will wait 2 weeks and see if get better
ALUCARD4DEAD said:
I have the same issue
I have snapdragon n9600ss first I have enabled AOD and sleep like 2 am and wakeup 8 am check and 90%
I disable AOD and now have 94%
It's the same percentage I have with my old s9 but with AOD so I don't really happy with battery
I will wait 2 weeks and see if get better
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ALUCARD4DEAD said:
I have the same issue
I have snapdragon n9600ss first I have enabled AOD and sleep like 2 am and wakeup 8 am check and 90%
I disable AOD and now have 94%
It's the same percentage I have with my old s9 but with AOD so I don't really happy with battery
I will wait 2 weeks and see if get better
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Wow I'm telling you some of you people have some really unrealistic expectations. Your complaining your phone looses a few percent in 6-8 hours. What do you expect? If you don't want your battery to drain then turn off your phone or plug it in. And then don't come complain you miss calls or have to have it plugged in all the time becusse your worried about a few percent while you sleep.
YoshiYino said:
So the drain is normal?
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Preferable to not leave it plugged in at night if you want to lessen the longevity of your battery.
~.7% an hour is not bad. With root and older phones I was able to lessen to 2-3% per 7-8h. Ideally that is what you want, less than .5% an hour. But we don't have root. Other ways to get less drain at night during sleep is to turn off sync or airplane mode or better yet turn your phone off. But as I said .7% an hour is all day for me in standby. I don't even know what it is at night, probably less.
I've been getting well over 10h SOT and had another hour or two of SOT left should I have chosen to drain down to <5% battery. I have been able to get 8h+ SOT over 36h on a charge. Your expectations are unrealistic as are many others on here. Be realistic or get another phone.
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AOD = OFF
Screen resolution = set to HD, (not FHD/UHD)
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That's interesting has to be a app causing the drain what third party apps do you have installed? the screen res wouldn't affect anything in terms of battery life because the screen is off. I charged last night and I'm at 16 percent right now on WQHD almost been 22hrs since I charged my phone
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Preferable to not leave it plugged in at night if you want to lessen the longevity of your battery.
~.7% an hour is not bad. With root and older phones I was able to lessen to 2-3% per 7-8h. Ideally that is what you want, less than .5% an hour. But we don't have root. Other ways to get less drain at night during sleep is to turn off sync or airplane mode or better yet turn your phone off. But as I said .7% an hour is all day for me in standby. I don't even know what it is at night, probably less.
I've been getting well over 10h SOT and had another hour or two of SOT left should I have chosen to drain down to <5% battery. I have been able to get 8h+ SOT over 36h on a charge. Your expectations are unrealistic as are many others on here. Be realistic or get another phone.
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10hrs of SOT? That's crazy I think 6 was the most but this battery definitely gets the job done for me
TechOut said:
Wow I'm telling you some of you people have some really unrealistic expectations. Your complaining your phone looses a few percent in 6-8 hours. What do you expect? If you don't want your battery to drain then turn off your phone or plug it in. And then don't come complain you miss calls or have to have it plugged in all the time becusse your worried about a few percent while you sleep.
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I’m so sorry I am not complaining but was wondering if it normal, I just got android as I come over from iOS, as iphone dun drain over night
YoshiYino said:
I’m so sorry I am not complaining but was wondering if it normal, I just got android as I come over from iOS, as iphone dun drain over night
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I switch between iOS and android I will say it's a app you have installed they behavior slightly different between OS
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That's interesting has to be a app causing the drain what third party apps do you have installed? the screen res wouldn't affect anything in terms of battery life because the screen is off. I charged last night and I'm at 16 percent right now on WQHD almost been 22hrs since I charged my phone
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10hrs of SOT? That's crazy I think 6 was the most but this battery definitely gets the job done for me
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WoW thats insane SOT!!
Could you please share the stock battery statistics (from settings)
YoshiYino said:
So the drain is normal?
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Everything up to 1%/h is normal, if it's over then worry.
YoshiYino said:
AOD = OFF
Screen resolution = set to HD, (not FHD/UHD)
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Change the resolution to WQHD+, the power saving is too little to worth the downgrade of screen quality. Tested on s7e,s8+ and s9+ and read about it for note 9.
Also worth to note that iphones tend to show less drain at high percentages and then speed up after below 60%, i.e. if you leave the iphone over night with 30% battery, most likely it will drop 1-2%. Still, iphones standby is a little bit better vs android and samsungs. I achieved 1% drop over night or non in M8 android 4.4 times, not since them. My best is around 0.3%/h via root and custom tweaking, for samsung stock it's normal to have 0.4-1%/h. Hope that brings some clarity.
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Everything up to 1%/h is normal, if it's over then worry.
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Thank you so much!
How do i see what apps is draining the battery?