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Future HTC ONE User Question

Hello people!
The upcoming Friday my contract with my cell company expires so the company in order to convince me to sign a new contract is offering me:
HTC One or Sony XPERIA Z1.
Beeing for 5 years a user of various HTC devices I was pretty happy appart my latest HTC ONE X that spend last summer around 2 months in service changing twice mainboard and battery on warranty.
This last experience made me a bit skeptical about going along with the latest HTC device.
Are you happy with your HTC ONE?
Any significant problems you encountered?
Is the camera as bad on daylight as I read in the various reviews?
Do you think I should go with the ONE or maybe try something new with the Z1?
Thanks in advance for your help and feedback.
Cheers!

tasos12 said:
Hello people!
The upcoming Friday my contract with my cell company expires so the company in order to convince me to sign a new contract is offering me:
HTC One or Sony XPERIA Z1.
Beeing for 5 years a user of various HTC devices I was pretty happy appart my latest HTC ONE X that spend last summer around 2 months in service changing twice mainboard and battery on warranty.
This last experience made me a bit skeptical about going along with the latest HTC device.
Are you happy with your HTC ONE?
Any significant problems you encountered?
Is the camera as bad on daylight as I read in the various reviews?
Do you think I should go with the ONE or maybe try something new with the Z1?
Thanks in advance for your help and feedback.
Cheers!
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Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N3 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.

sauprankul said:
Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.
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I am not a great pictures fan.
To tell the truth I usually post some in facebook or Instagram but thats just about it.
I was pretty happy with my HTC ONE X camera but I guess the HTC ONE camera is worse from what you are saying.....
I kind of lost you with the AL acronym.
Can you explain what you mean by AL?

sauprankul said:
Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.
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Lol, someone is having a bad day?
The fact you are having troubles with your HTC One, does not mean everyone does.
Yes, they are two different phones, but the speed difference is only noticable with really heavy games and benchmarks.
With day-to-day use, a person cannot tell the difference.
A bit more neutral non-biased oppinion;
If you look holding a premium device, that feels like a premium device, you can buy the HTC One.
There is not competition in terms of build quality, not a chance.
I'm a stock Android fan, but HTC has done a REALLY good job with Sense 5 (and an even better one with Sense 5.5).
The Snapdragon 600 will hold easily for the next two years..
I'd try them both, and my suggest, if you do not take the HTC One, take a look at the new Nexus.
Updates from Google, Snapdragon 800 and a nice looking phone (dunno about the build quality though).

tasos12 said:
I am not a great pictures fan.
To tell the truth I usually post some in facebook or Instagram but thats just about it.
I was pretty happy with my HTC ONE X camera but I guess the HTC ONE camera is worse from what you are saying.....
I kind of lost you with the AL acronym.
Can you explain what you mean by AL?
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Al = Aluminum. And what Justin^^^ said is true. Suddenly, anything not made out of the finest materials feels cheap to me. In terms of premium feel, nothing can beat the One. It strikes all the right chords, and fits just right. And I do a lot of gaming on the One, and I actually DO see some lag, and its noticeable.
I maintain my position on the camera though. If you're looking for a camera that can capture any detail beyond the "with so and so at so and so", look elsewhere. But for just social media, this camera is fine. It won't perform in low light unless you get a perfect unit (unlikely), so don't count on that.
The Z1 has tons of cool stuff like SD, waterproof, dustproof, snapdragon 800, 20.7 MP camera, 3000 mAh battery etc. It comes down to this: do you want a premium feeling phone that performs adequately, or do you want a beast of a phone that looks and feels only slightly worse.
AL = Aluminum, H1 = HTC One, Z1 = Sony Xperia Z1, N1 = Oppo N1, N3 = Samsung Galaxy Note 3, N5 = Nexus 5, G2 = LG G2, S5 = Samsung Galaxy S5.

sauprankul said:
Z1. Without a doubt. Use the heck out of it for the 14 days so that you can return it if you don't like it though.
The One has a terrible camera. The Z1 doesn't have OIS, but it's better in almost every other regard unless you're a AL-phile or need stereo sound.
Seriously. There is absolutely no comparison between the One and the Z1. They are two different generations of phone and should be treated as such.
I don't like my One. It's not what it was advertised to be, and I wouldn't recommend anybody buy the H1 in light of recent phone announcements like the Z1 and the N1 and the N3 and the N5 and the G2 and the (?)S5. Wow. Those names doe.
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Lol seriously ?
@ Op
Here small comparison just for you between the two
Soc = Xperia z1
Screen quality = HTC One
Sound via headphones = HTC One
Sound loudness & quality via speaker(s)= HTC - here is definetelly no comparison dual stereo speakers vs mono low quality/loudness speaker ..
Build quality = HTC One .. glass simply isn't better then aluminum
Front facing camera = HTC One
Rear facing camera = i don't know what to say here z1 with current firmware trully sux but i know it'll get better later so i'd say z1
Battery life = HTC One ..
Software = HTC One - The software is miles ahead of z1 and better optimised it's lagg/stutter free
Overall issues with the device are far less then with z1 , with 1 you can only get purple tint camera while z1 has issues pretty much with everything
As for the camera @ Op take a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46539474&postcount=2955
HTC One - camera samples thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169626&page=296
Xperia z1 - camera samples thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438859&page=43
Here the whole thread with bunch of photos so take a look a bit before you decide , take a look at z1 samples as well
That's pretty much how the camera works , if this isn't good enough for you and camera is priority for you got with z1
Lastly if you need any more insights about HTC One feel free to PM me i'd be happy to tell you more about it and give you more samples from my own camera if needed from any scenario also answer every question you got about HTC One.

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There is a sticky thread on top of this forum that reads "read before posting here". If you did, you would have noticed that we don't allow any comparison threads here for the reasons mentioned there.
So if you have a SPECIFIC question about a SPECIFIC difference between two phones, feel free to start a new thread with it. But please no general "Is the phone good and why?" or "Is the phone better than...."
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[Q] Have HTC One, should I get a Z1?

OK, so at my work we get a new phone every 18 months. I got the HTC One X last year, it got stolen 3 months ago and I got the newer HTC One on insurance. I now get a new free phone and can choose between all the new models, but I've narrowed it down to another One or the Z1 (my partner gets the old One I currently have).
My questions to Z1 owners:
*It's big. I can use the One comfortably with one hand, is this possible with the Z1?
*The camera on the One is decent, but not brilliant, are you happy with the Z1 camera?
*I LOVE the screen on my One, is the Z1 screen good enough in sunlight, black levels etc.? Some of the reviews remark it's not that great.
*Is the battery very good? I'm happy with the One battery, but wouldn't mind even better battery.
So, basically I'm very happy with my HTC One, which is by far the best phone I've owned, and feel bad not rewarding HTC by showing brand loyalty, but the upgraded chip and camera on the Z1 and the waterproof body are enticing, but the size seems daunting.
Any thoughts?

andysor said:
OK, so at my work we get a new phone every 18 months. I got the HTC One X last year, it got stolen 3 months ago and I got the newer HTC One on insurance. I now get a new free phone and can choose between all the new models, but I've narrowed it down to another One or the Z1 (my partner gets the old One I currently have).
My questions to Z1 owners:
*It's big. I can use the One comfortably with one hand, is this possible with the Z1?
*The camera on the One is decent, but not brilliant, are you happy with the Z1 camera?
*I LOVE the screen on my One, is the Z1 screen good enough in sunlight, black levels etc.? Some of the reviews remark it's not that great.
*Is the battery very good? I'm happy with the One battery, but wouldn't mind even better battery.
So, basically I'm very happy with my HTC One, which is by far the best phone I've owned, and feel bad not rewarding HTC by showing brand loyalty, but the upgraded chip and camera on the Z1 and the waterproof body are enticing, but the size seems daunting.
Any thoughts?
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As a previous owner of the HTC One and current owner of the Z1...
It's manageble with one hand, and I don;t have large hands, but not always very comfortable (hard to hold a decent grip when reaching for certain parts).
Overall pretty happy with the camera, but it has way more potential. But for the the HTC One camera was just too limited, 4MP was small... but only 3MP with certain settings was too small. The Z1 camera is fast, handles lower light well, etc. Just make sure to use manual mode for now.
Z1 Screen is not as nice as the One screen (as far as I'm concerned). The One screen is colder, which I like more, and more bright/speaking. The Z1 screen is warmer, perhaps more realistic. Then again, after only using the Z1 for a while I'm not bothered with it anymore... I just notice it right away in a direct comparison.
Define good battery, I can easily manage 2 days with moderate use. Dunno if it's as good as the HTC one (been a while) but not much worse anyway. ANd that also can improve with future updates.
All in all... Main reason for me to move away from the HTC one:
* Screen Size
* Camera
What I miss most about the One:
* Speakers
* Screen at times/formfactor/build... More a combination of these.
But no regrets at all switching to the Z1!

One was my previous phone and now I'm happy about my z1. In almost every aspect Sony is better, but HTC ONE has brilliant, absolutely brilliant audio output on headphones comparing to s4 or z1
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drakexpl said:
One was my previous phone and now I'm happy about my z1. In almost every aspect Sony is better, but HTC ONE has brilliant, absolutely brilliant audio output on headphones comparing to s4 or z1
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Are you talking about Beats audio, or just the general sound quality?

No, beats audio it's just a compressor and some EQ preset. I was talking about pure audio output spec., its power and clarity.

I currently have both phones but the HTC One is up on Ebay ready to sell.
Size: The HTC One is comfortable to use with one hand, the Z1 is possible but it really isn't comfortable. I do use it one handed just fine so it isn't so much a hindrance but it really isnt comfortable in my average sized hands.
Camera: Mixed bag. If I use manual mode tweak the settings and get things just right, I get a better picture from the Z1. But it does take a bit of setup, the beauty of the One is that you can just launch the camera, click the photo and you have a great looking picture. So personally I prefer the HTC One camera (simply because most of the shots I want to take have passed by the time I have set the Z1 up, so I either have to put up with a crappy superior auto shot, or miss the chance to take the picture entirely!). However, I would hope the superior auto on the Z1 will get better with updates and eventually (because the hardware is superior on the Z1) the auto shots will be better than the One's auto shots. The Zoe and video highlight functionality is unrivaled imo though. Can't find anything that does what that can do as easily and as well.
Personally, I prefer the screen on the HTC One though I can't really pinpoint why. But the Z1 screen is good enough that I don't really care.
The battery is far better on the Z1. I've recently been doing battery tests on them both and after a day of web browsing, 3g movie streaming, music listening and plenty of messaging, the One will die when the Z1 is at about 35%. Bear in mind this was not done in any sort of scientific way. I was using each phone on consecutive days and trying to do the same sort of stuff with them both (using GSAM battery monitor to compare that id had the screen and the various apps on for roughly the same amount of time).
In response to drakexpl, I've found the Z1 to have slightly better sound quality (through headphones) than the One. I use just bass boost eq on both (beats always off on the One), with a decent set of iems and I just find the Z1 to be more vibrant and punchy. I'm no audiophile though.
Anyway that's my input. The HTC One is a fantastic phone and I will miss the external speaker goodness, blinkfeed and especially the Zoe/Highlight functionality, but overall I feel the Z1 is a better phone (but it was a close call as to which one I would sell).

I've owned (short time) Htc one and now have z1, was a good phone but didn't do anything for me. Battery life was not good. But the sound quality was the best of any phone I've had. Thought the speakers would be louder though. But prefer z1.
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dazza7111 said:
I've owned (short time) Htc one and now have z1, was a good phone but didn't do anything for me. Battery life was not good. But the sound quality was the best of any phone I've had. Thought the speakers would be louder though. But prefer z1.
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Not sure of your battery life reference if that was the HTC or Z1, because the battery life on mine is pretty great.
Sound quality with walkman app blows any phone I have previously had out of the water Including the HTC Sensation XE (first beats audio).
The Z1 is soooooo fast and smooth.
I really like the size and shape of it, had the Z and that phone always felt like it was going to fall out of my hand due to the square shape.
Camera is very good for a point and shoot in terms of quality of photos, and higher ISO (say 800) is much better than most point and shoots.
Micro SD Slot, was the reason I jumped ship from HTC to Sony.
My only comment is you may be disappointed with the screen coming from what I would classify as one of the best screens out there. The Sony screen is very good, but I feel the HTC One screens are superb.

danw_oz said:
Not sure of your battery life reference if that was the HTC or Z1, because the battery life on mine is pretty great
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I was talking about the HTC One battery, I just go off work use, was nearly flat and needing charger by home time coming home having to put it straight on charge, If I was going out after work not much time to charge it, After using Note 2 and S4 the Z1 battery life is great yes I use stamina mode (and Greenify) and did on the HTC One, (not Greenify)
HTC one was a good phone just not for me, but it did convert me to prefer glass touch buttons from Samsung plastic ones!

dazza7111 said:
I was talking about the HTC One battery, I just go off work use, was nearly flat and needing charger by home time coming home having to put it straight on charge, If I was going out after work not much time to charge it, After using Note 2 and S4 the Z1 battery life is great yes I use stamina mode (and Greenify) and did on the HTC One, (not Greenify)
HTC one was a good phone just not for me, but it did convert me to prefer glass touch buttons from Samsung plastic ones!
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I'm a bit worried when I read this. Was this just a bad pre-production model they got, or is that representative?

andysor said:
I'm a bit worried when I read this. Was this just a bad pre-production model they got, or is that representative?
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Don't worry too much about this, I've been streaming podcasts all day at work, bit of youtube at breaks few texts, couple of calls, just got in and have about 50% battery left.

HTC One, G2 or Z1 ?

Hi everybody, excuse my english i'm french
So, i will buy a new smartphone, but i CAN'T decide between these phone, it's hard. I've a basic usage, i use my phone for SMS/call/twitter/facebook/(few) games/musique (with earphone)/(few) photos, and that's all I search a beautiful interface, because I HATE Android stock, it's very empty. So i search a beautiful interface with good features, i also search a very fast phone, and that's all because these 3 phone have an amazing screen/performance etc.
I like the HTC One because i think Sense is good, and i can't stay for the new HTC, but the One will have Sense 6.0 (with ROM custom) ? And the One is old..
I like the G2 for his screen, and his is new
And the Z1 for his camera
So thank you if you could help me, i've 800$ so i can buy any phone, thank you !
Excuse me for my english..

inyrfacebiatchh said:
Hi everybody, excuse my english i'm french
So, i will buy a new smartphone, but i CAN'T decide between these phone, it's hard. I've a basic usage, i use my phone for SMS/call/twitter/facebook/(few) games/musique (with earphone)/(few) photos, and that's all I search a beautiful interface, because I HATE Android stock, it's very empty. So i search a beautiful interface with good features, i also search a very fast phone, and that's all because these 3 phone have an amazing screen/performance etc.
I like the HTC One because i think Sense is good, and i can't stay for the new HTC, but the One will have Sense 6.0 (with ROM custom) ? And the One is old..
I like the G2 for his screen, and his is new
And the Z1 for his camera
So thank you if you could help me, i've 800$ so i can buy any phone, thank you !
Excuse me for my english..
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you'd better remove this thread before a mod does...
What does not go here (by far an uncomplete list, just some examples for topics that are not tolerated)
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Device comparison threads "Which is better: iphone or this phone" (see above)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158159

Why is pro and con comparement not allowed on xda ?
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pshdo said:
Why is pro and con comparement not allowed on xda ?
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Pro and cons are allowed in one thread. but for comparisons between 2 or 3 phones, people will take this to serious and it will go out of hand fast. And anyway he put this in an HTC One forum why would take about how awesome another phone is because most of us don't have both phones anyway. But to answer the op the HTC One is the best!!!!

I have M7 and 'had' Z1, just recently sold it due to a few factors such as weight, poor screen viewing angles, ridiculous button placement, limited dev support and extremely average camera in low to medium light conditions. I cant say much about the G2 other than imo its fairly ugly looking.

dirtbikerr450 said:
Pro and cons are allowed in one thread. but for comparisons between 2 or 3 phones, people will take this to serious and it will go out of hand fast. And anyway he put this in an HTC One forum why would take about how awesome another phone is because most of us don't have both phones anyway. But to answer the op the HTC One is the best!!!!
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It is just a little funny that we are alloud to compare eg. the camera of two phones, but to compare two phones is not...
Never mind...
I actually have both phones in the house, and have used the Z1 for two months as my own before i bought the ONE...
- and this is my thoughts on the subject...
Camera:
The Auto feature (point and shoot) of the Z1 is NOT working at all...
The manual function is working, but i think that most of us use auto function anyway...
A Little plus is that Z1 have a deticated camera button.
On the ONE, the auto "point and shoot" function works really great, but in this phone you really have to remember that it is only a 4mp camera nomatter that HTC try to call them ultra pixels...
Sony have at least the option to make a great camera down the line, as they at least have put in the hardware for it inside the phone...
Daily feel:
The Z1 is really fantastic pice of electronics, the glass/alu feel is really nice...
The viewing angle is not amazing, but i mostly use the phone when i look at it anyway, so that is NOT a real problem unless you really need to share your life at any moment with the World arround you, and then you could just turn your phone over to your friend anyway...
The edges arround the Z1 screen is simply much too wide thoug, with no function at all, just a lot of Black (or White or purple)...
Back and home is even onscreen, and not on the edge...
The water proof feature is really nice to have thoug, just wash the phone if it get dirty...
The processor in the Z1 feels supperior to the HTC by a lot, it feels like it have the power to do anything you want...
The ONE on the other hand is alu/plastic, and feels a little cheaper i think, but really nice compared to most phones anyway...
The ONE have a smaller size due to a Little smaller screen and much smaller edges, and it feels better in the hand when you hold it and use it...
- the Z1 is actually a little too big to type on or use it with one hand, and i have no small hands...
The edges on the ONE is much smaller arround the screen and i love that...
But the processor in the ONE actually feels less powerfull... you can actually feel it in daily use...
Sense or Xperia, i can´t really see the differense...
- both works fine, but the Xperia is perhaps a little closer to the pure Android feeling...
I have both in the house as i mentioned, and i have used both as my daily phone, but...
I would proberbly get the Z1 again (don´t hate me HTC ONE forum), but only IF the Z1 had a dual sim feature like my HTC ONE variant...
- i love the dual sim feature in my ONE variant, and THAT is the only reason i bought this phone!

Thank you very much, i've tested the Z1 in a store just 30 seconds, and i was REALLY blufed by the smooth of the phone, it's incredible, the G2 and the One aren't available for testing.. I don't open a game or other, just open the browser (Google Chrome) and scroll into the homescreen, this is very fast, so i think i will buy this phone, but i love Sense and i don't want wait 3 months for the new HTC.. The G2 is not very beautiful, so i pass on this phone. The Z1 have many problems (reviews from buyers), so, it's better i go on the HTC One who is a great value or the Z1 ? If i buy the One, will i have Sense 6.0 with ROM Cutom or Official updates ? Thank you all

Before this thread gets closed. Check out the Xperia Z1S. Newer, better and an IPS screen. Completely waterproof certified too (for 30 minutes). It comes to the US on January 22nd, and I'm completely on the fence on whether to stick with my One or get that.

Z1 good enough.? What u think

Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years

sparxx4 said:
Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years
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A good idea to start is to use google and youtube to search. I just did it, took around 6 seconds and found many results.

I did that already
Its not a big deal to see what others thought and if they satisfied with there z1

I think Z1 is better than M8, I dont talk about the hardware, I talk about the experience

I personnaly don't like the HTC UI, it's a lot heavier than sony's and it's weirdly placed (compared to Google Experience or even sony's).
Overall, I think the Sony's UI is intuitive and clean, closer to a stock Google Experience.

I haven't had any first hand experience with M8, just felt it in hand at a service provider's stand, and I quite don't like it. It has a pretty weird length/width ratio, making it look elongated, and not wide enough. Plus, just like fellow posters mentioned it, HTC Sense UI doesn't make much sense to me, so to speak.
As for Z1, it looks just as classy (if not more so), cleaner and lighter UI, blazingly fast, better camera. Not to mention battery life. Have been happily using this Z1 since last November, best smartphone I've had so far.
So, in my opinion, go for Z1.

if you drive and use navigation app alot, stay away from z1, or probably from android. this sh*t can't even run a navigation + music player through bluetooth at the same time for 1 or 2 hours. reinstalling the firmware doesn't help. huge joke for this much hardware specs... as a driver who has to drive at long distances, i really regret getting the z1, or android... even my 3 years old nokia n8 can do a better job, seriously. so much for android's failed multitasking

0000alex0000 said:
if you drive and use navigation app alot, stay away from z1, or probably from android. this sh*t can't even run a navigation + music player through bluetooth at the same time for 1 or 2 hours. reinstalling the firmware doesn't help. huge joke for this much hardware specs... as a driver who has to drive at long distances, i really regret getting the z1, or android... even my 3 years old nokia n8 can do a better job, seriously. so much for android's failed multitasking
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I am sorry you have such problems, which, honestly I have never experienced. And, yes, I have been using navigation on the Z1, and the music player at the same time. Haven't had any problems on JB, and no problems on KK.
Perhaps you should use a GPS dedicated unit for long distances (I have got a Becker Ready 50, for that matter) although I have used the Z1's navigation for the past 6 months, with no problems whatsoever.
So going on like this will not help the OP, since both phones he mentioned run on Android, and both use the same Bluetooth protocols and also same Google Maps navigation system. But since you mentioned that Nokia N8, well, maybe he should reconsider then.

Aegethir said:
I am sorry you have such problems, which, honestly I have never experienced. And, yes, I have been using navigation on the Z1, and the music player at the same time. Haven't had any problems on JB, and no problems on KK.
Perhaps you should use a GPS dedicated unit for long distances (I have got a Becker Ready 50, for that matter) although I have used the Z1's navigation for the past 6 months, with no problems whatsoever.
So going on like this will not help the OP, since both phones he mentioned run on Android, and both use the same Bluetooth protocols and also same Google Maps navigation system. But since you mentioned that Nokia N8, well, maybe he should reconsider then.
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actually... the problem was that if i drive about 1 hour, the navigation and walkman player will just shut off by themselves, no force close window, nothing... even if they won't shut off by themselves, sometimes they are stuttered and laggy... same thing will happen even if you only use navigation... there is no problem if you are using the navigation for short distances but it's quite dangerous when that problem actually happens on the road.
don't go get N8, i was just saying. the app quality and quantity are too horrible. if OP really only wants to choose between these two, then definitely Z1 (camera), although it won't be a mistake to choose M8 (build quality). but if OP relies heavily on navigation like me, then go get a Lumia.

For everything other than camera and waterproofing, go for m8.
The screen, speakers, sound, etc are light years ahead.
Also way way more development

sparxx4 said:
Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years
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I have had a chance to compare the Z2 camera (the same module) against the One M8. Here is a detailed comparison:
The question is .... why are you comparing Z1 to one M8 instead of the Xperia Z2?
I have tested all three and the question is what you are looking for in the phone. Camera-wise there is no match to Xperias in terms of quality of pictures.
Xperia Z1:
+ Camera
+ IP Rating
- Not an IPS panel = poor viewing angles
- Shatterproof film on the screen with imprinted Sony logo
- Poor speakers
-/+ Blocky Design
- No IR Sensor or podometer
One M8:
+ Awesome Speakers and audio quality both on headphones as well as speakerphone and speakers
+ Very comfortable rounded design (slightly big bezels)
+ Better screen than that on Z1
+ IR Sensor + Podometer
- The body scratches easily
- No IP rating
Xperia Z2
A lot of things that were wrong with Z1 have been fixed in Z2 :good::
+ IPS Display
+ Front-facing stereo speakers (no match for M8 as they have waterproofing but still better than most competition)
+ Noise-cancelling headset
+ 5.2 inch display with better screen to body ratio (almost same size as Z1)
+/- Blocky Design
- No IR sensor or podometer

Thx for this review,
I didnt go for Z2 cuz it is big on hand.
I didnt try it by my self and I didnt know the z1 had thos problem while Z2 dont ?
Will consider it from now on
Thanks for this information

sparxx4 said:
Hi everyone.
Im about to get a new phone and im confused with
Z1 or HTC m8
Any one had compare this phone together.?
I'v heard that z1 camera is way better than the m8 is that true?
I wud be glad to hear both sides. The advantage and disadvantage of the z1 or HTC m8
Thank you in advance
And yes I had Xperia S for 2 years
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That's right M8 pics are better and has more quality than Z1, but Z1 hardware is better
Sony UI is not so heavy to use most spaces of the Ram
Z1 is heavier and can take more damages, even it's water resistance and you can safely take it in water and take pics

Xpera Z vs S4 today..?

Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance

slobo2712 said:
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
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Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.

Dsteppa said:
Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.
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Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...

As a sony funboy,i have to admir that, in low lighf samsunf is way better, but if compare with real life view, samsung looks like crap, greens is not green, blue is not blue. Just crayon colours.
As my tought, samsung's gui looks like cildish, still like android 2.1.
Still i suggest everybody around me to buy samsung. Just to make them suffer. Ahhaha.
For real. Goto one ofe electronic store. Get both of them in your hand. use both of them for awile. With which one you feel better, get it. All new smartphones are powerfull enoght to handle all kind of applications.
Most importand thing is, will you be happy one mounth later you bought device.
Best regards.
Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk

slobo2712 said:
Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...
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I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.

Dsteppa said:
I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.
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Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?

slobo2712 said:
Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?
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In my opinion it isn't I just avoid taking pictures in the dark, when using the flash, I prefer to use torch instead of the actual flash. (Torch keeps your led on instead of flashing.)

I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it

dSERiES said:
I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it
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Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now

slobo2712 said:
Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now
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Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)

dSERiES said:
Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !

Pandemic said:
LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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oh the Irony...by the way you may want to check and compare the price of the z2 and the lg g2...I think the lg g2 is a bit more..accesible? like the xz and s4

My shop can't get rid of your last G2. Been trying to basically give it away for 2 months.
Sony all the way. Far better than most of the alternatives and you doubt have to deal with that crappy interface Samsung uses.

Pandemic said:
LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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Not at all. I own a Z and I love it, as I've said previously. G2 is just near-the-same price category as Z snd S4 nowadays, that's why I recommended it (by saying get a G2 I automatically became an LG fanboy lol ...clever thinking:good
And yes Z2 is an excellent recommendation for someone who is looking for a smartphone in the price range of the XZ and SGS4

Samsung has Knox, Sony does not, making it much more user friendly when it comes to flashing
Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45666586
No solution in sight for Samsung fanboys
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No I dont like LG phones at all,what is knox?I dont want to buy new phone..?tnx

Dammit you people are hijacking this topic! He want's to know XZ vs S4
Stop confusing him!:silly::silly::angel:
P.S. I haven't forgotten your pictures

The Z looks good, the S4 looks ugly.

Oke straight to the point:
XZ is a piece of art with glass and the 1st flagship of Sony, great in performance and a very nice phone and very good custom roms for it ^^
Samsung GS4:
A piece of plastic, comes from the kids store where they sell toys, worse phone and cant tip on the XZ and touchwiz s*cks
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !