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Should I get an Asus transformer?

What do you guys think? Been looking at it and just tablets in general. Seems as though all the honeycomb tablets have pretty much the same hardware. What are your opinions on it and any owners that know something I should know please tell me
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Go for it specs wise plus its price I think it's good. But if money isn't a problem then go for the 10.1 galaxy tab.
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I don't know anything about the transformer, but I do like Asus laptops.

Transformer is a very solid unit. Good screen, nice and quick, well-built.
If you get one, definitely consider the keyboard dock also. It really makes extended use (especially browsing XDA for hours on end) much more pleasant.
There are a couple of units available in the marketplace at good prices, Donharden has a great 16GB unit. Check them out!
Good luck!

Go for it, best at it's hardward range Tegra 2, compare to Thrive and Iconia..Gtab.
It's thinner and well built. I had played with it and others side by side at office depot. The Tf101 hands down.

Thanks for the input guys, I want to go down to best buy and compare still though, I hate how demo units are always all messed up and slowed down from all the things people do to them. It really makes it hard to judge.
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I'm a bit biased on this (posting via my transformer now). Lol i highly recommend this tablet though, mine is rooted and is just amazing. No issues or quirks and i've had it for bout a month or so. I've made due without a keyboard dock thus far but a am looking into getting one soon.
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Yonnor said:
I'm a bit biased on this (posting via my transformer now). Lol i highly recommend this tablet though, mine is rooted and is just amazing. No issues or quirks and i've had it for bout a month or so. I've made due without a keyboard dock thus far but a am looking into getting one soon.
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Thanks! Just wondering though, are you running 3.0 or 3.1? Also are you overclocking it?
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Thanks! Just wondering though, are you running 3.0 or 3.1? Also are you overclocking it?
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Currently running roachs Prime v1.5, which is 3.1 and waiting for v1.6 which will most likely be 3.2.
I'm overclocked using Blades #17 kernel @1504mhz using jrummy's Android Overclock app.
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Xoom vs nexus 7 jelly bean vid

Hey everyone,
Made this video to compare the 2., You can see the clear winner as far as 'butter' experience goes. I'm happy with both, but I thought I share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiKGUPNd03M
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Xoom looks so washed out in color compared to the 7......for a nightly on the zoom it runs pretty good

you could have cleaned the screen on the Xoom before you made the vid!! lol

I should have. Lol
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Remember it's also the only tablet running jelly bean besides the nexus 7 in a usable configuration
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razorseal said:
Remember it's also the only tablet running jelly bean besides the nexus 7 in a usable configuration
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Not true...Kindle Fire is pretty much fully working. Hascode fixed HW acceleration. I am leaving JB on as my DD.

brizey said:
Not true...Kindle Fire is pretty much fully working. Hascode fixed HW acceleration. I am leaving JB on as my DD.
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we had a kindle. Lovely device... until the nexus came out.
You can't even utilize things like Google voice, maps with gps etc.
But I guess that still counts. I would never put the kindle in the same category as these devices though. We had one until 2 days ago. It sold within 10 minutes, which was $135
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I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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brizey said:
I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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You won't be disappointed man its a sweet tablet, and my 2nd one shipped Friday from the play store. What's better than a Nexus 7? TWO Nexus 7's!
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brizey said:
I am just giving mine to my son. My daughter already has an A200. Can't wait until Monday.
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Perfect.
You're gonna love the nexus 7 if you are coming from the kindle. Like I said, we are coming from a fire, and it's night and day. Maybe if I rooted the kf, it would have been closer. But I don't like to root devices my other half is using. I only root the stuff I use.
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Clienterror said:
You won't be disappointed man its a sweet tablet, and my 2nd one shipped Friday from the play store. What's better than a Nexus 7? TWO Nexus 7's!
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I know what's better than two nexus 7's.......three nexus 7's. Got my three from Sam's Club last night.....

B-Mod said:
I know what's better than two nexus 7's.......three nexus 7's. Got my three from Sam's Club last night.....
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Lol.. one for all the members in the family? Lol
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razorseal said:
Hey everyone,
Made this video to compare the 2., You can see the clear winner as far as 'butter' experience goes. I'm happy with both, but I thought I share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiKGUPNd03M
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Good video I cant wait for it to offically be release I might say screw it to my data plan with Verizon lol

guys, quick little update. I shut off the live wallpaper on the xoom, and it's considerably faster now. Still not 'just like nexus 7' but much much smoother. I'm gonna make another video now and you guys will see the improvement in smoothness and performance. FWIW, I also went from 110 to 111 nightly.

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guys, quick little update. I shut off the live wallpaper on the xoom, and it's considerably faster now. Still not 'just like nexus 7' but much much smoother. I'm gonna make another video now and you guys will see the improvement in smoothness and performance. FWIW, I also went from 110 to 111 nightly.
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I was going to say... you kind of crippled the Xoom having the wallpaper up. While the n7 was made for jellybean I think its more a product of having such newer hardware in the n7 compared to the Xoom. You have faster memory, quad core, and a more powerful GPU on the n7. Even though PPI settings are set higher for the n7, effectively you have less going on, less screen real estate etc for the same or similar resolution. I'd like to see the build.prop edited on the Xoom the same as the n7 if it could be displayed without crashing with everything possible configured the same. I think you are still going to see the fact that the n7 is a generation newer processor wise will still beat out the Xoom.
On the other hand, it still looks pretty nice on the Xoom. Jb breathes new life into dual core devices!
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indeed...
video is rendering still, when done, here is the link
http://youtu.be/4yVH53OD9UM

As he correctly points out in the video, he's using a custom hacked together ROM on the Xoom vs. a stable ROM on the Nexus 7. What he doesn't mention is that the Xoom ROM is a port. It's not compiled from source...it can't be. Google hasn't dropped the Xoom source code for JB into AOSP yet.
Let's compare this again when the Xoom actually has source code available and someone compiles a raw AOSP ROM for it, thus we can compare apples to apples.

oldblue910 said:
As he correctly points out in the video, he's using a custom hacked together ROM on the Xoom vs. a stable ROM on the Nexus 7. What he doesn't mention is that the Xoom ROM is a port. It's not compiled from source...it can't be. Google hasn't dropped the Xoom source code for JB into AOSP yet.
Let's compare this again when the Xoom actually has source code available and someone compiles a raw AOSP ROM for it, thus we can compare apples to apples.
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you think Google builds aosp source code for every device? your smokin!
hash code built jellybean from SOURCE and created the device tree, added necessary drives, and compiled. far from a port, I would only assume the same was done for the Xoom. a port? cmon!

Your accent is ridiculous. Good comparison though.

smirkis said:
you think Google builds aosp source code for every device? your smokin!
hash code built jellybean from SOURCE and created the device tree, added necessary drives, and compiled. far from a port, I would only assume the same was done for the Xoom. a port? cmon!
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OK you're right, I stand corrected. You can probably build for the wingray and stringray out of what's there now, but there are still no binaries for JB for either the Xoom or Nexus S. I'd imagine things will still run better once that stuff is available, particularly updated graphics drivers.

Returning to get S4?

Ive been thinking about returning my one to get a s4 from sprint. My main reason is that I dont find any info that the one will ever get a 100% working aosp rom as im not a huge fan of sense or touchwiz and the s4 is already getting cm nightlies for some variants and shouldn't be long till all versions do. Also what phone do you think will get more dev support?

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Ive been thinking about returning my one to get a s4 from sprint. My main reason is that I dont find any info that the one will ever get a 100% working aosp rom as im not a huge fan of sense or touchwiz and the s4 is already getting cm nightlies for some variants and shouldn't be long till all versions do. Also what phone do you think will get more dev support?
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Don't let the door split ya where the good Lord split ya!
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if you did a search before you started a useless thread. you would have seen this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40724019
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The S4 needs Cm10.1 cause its a pos with stock Touchwiz, the One on the other hand is tits right out of the box and only getting better
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Pretty sure that if you been "modding" devices alike for awhile you would know more about HTC devices and there source code and binaries arn't just a overnight process to port (not to say samsung are easier at times).
AOSP is very close to being done via the msm8960 group that is porting all the code daily. Daniel on the team posted this on his Google+ today Cm10.1 HTC ONE. By next week we will almost have a working AOSP build / kernel for this device, outside polishing its gonna be awesome and worth the wait. If you insist on a s4 go for it! its your money, your decision!

FrozenRiff said:
The S4 needs Cm10.1 cause its a pos with stock Touchwiz, the One on the other hand is tits right out of the box and only getting better
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I agree, touchwiz is terrible imo. With the One you get sense 5 and aosp, the best of both worlds. Tons of people working on things daily, should only get better in the One forums.
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doakills said:
Pretty sure that if you been "modding" devices alike for awhile you would know more about HTC devices and there source code and binaries arn't just a overnight process to port (not to say samsung are easier at times).
AOSP is very close to being done via the msm8960 group that is porting all the code daily. Daniel on the team posted this on his Google+ today Cm10.1 HTC ONE. By next week we will almost have a working AOSP build / kernel for this device, outside polishing its gonna be awesome and worth the wait. If you insist on a s4 go for it! its your money, your decision!
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What about sprint versions you think we will see some aosp action?
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SkinnyBiggs said:
What about sprint versions you think we will see some aosp action?
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There are a few test builds out now.
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There are a few test builds out now.
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Yep. Right here. The team is working on all vsriants. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266048

Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266048
CM 10.1.. Now if you have any other reasons to switch to the s4 you should consider them. From personal experience I gave up my evo 4g lte for a galaxy s3 and really missed my htc phone. Now I am back with the htc one.

knlmwq said:
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266048
CM 10.1.. Now if you have any other reasons to switch to the s4 you should consider them. From personal experience I gave up my evo 4g lte for a galaxy s3 and really missed my htc phone. Now I am back with the htc one.
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Agreed, I had the evo lte, then I got the S3 off ebay and used it for a week and went straight back to my evo lte, can't beat an HTC, gave the S3 to my wife
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I think all of these "one or s4, which.will have more dev" should be locked so they can sink and burn.

Back to Nexus.

Yeah got pretty sick of my Galaxy S4 and it's mf3 update. Specs really don't matter to me as long as everything is stable. The only thing I'll really miss is the ir blaster. I debated on going to the htc one all the way up to the xperia z1. I'm just gonna wait. Can anyone recommend me some good roms? Something stable with features like Halo and Focal and all the good stuff? I know there's a lot and I'm late, but I'm sure there a lot of others looking for the same answers since google sold out of nexus 4s and theres a lot of new users. I should have mine tomorrow morning.
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Welcome back lol
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Welcome back lol
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I should have never left lol
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Shame on you for thinking there is anything better than Nexus were like the spoiled children of Google. The best of everything without all the bulk and sulk bundle they merge into the OS
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Welcome back and I recommend crDroid. It's smooth and stable and has Focal and Halo and a whole lot more. You can find it in the Nexus 4 Android Development forum.
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Misledz said:
Shame on you for thinking there is anything better than Nexus were like the spoiled children of Google. The best of everything without all the bulk and sulk bundle they merge into the OS
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Well, HTC devices are very high quality, after you get past the carrier blocks to root, unlock bootloader, s-off and flash a custom rom, (aosp preferably because its always newer than sense).
But I'd rather get the updates first at the cost of a camera not being as good and ease of rooting.
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mirGantrophy said:
Well, HTC devices are very high quality, after you get past the carrier blocks to root, unlock bootloader, s-off and flash a custom rom, (aosp preferably because its always newer than sense).
But I'd rather get the updates first at the cost of a camera not being as good and ease of rooting.
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I agree. HTC is my favorite when it comes to hardware. I've had the N1 and a One X+ from them.This is going to be my first LG. I know when Google works with companies on their Nexus phones they're usually top notch. My last one was a Galaxy Nexus and I was amazed by the build and it felt perfect in the hands. I can't wait to see how the Nexus 5 is.
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Google would have done HTC. But I guess Apple saw the opportunity when it came to HTC and their build.
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Misledz said:
Google would have done HTC. But I guess Apple saw the opportunity when it came to HTC and their build.
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Yes, I think you are right, but as we commented in another thread the other day (the sony nexus concept phone) there are some brands who could never work with google to make THE NEXUS. They can make google editions, as samsung and htc did, but the nexus, in my opinion, has to be a cheaper phone, so sony and htc should be out of this game...

luiseteyo said:
Yes, I think you are right, but as we commented in another thread the other day (the sony nexus concept phone) there are some brands who could never work with google to make THE NEXUS. They can make google editions, as samsung and htc did, but the nexus, in my opinion, has to be a cheaper phone, so sony and htc should be out of this game...
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Sony loves competition. They're all about competition. They're so addicted to it that just to combat the Nexus 7 they made a Xperia tablet Z, kitchen edition. What the hell? links below
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Tablet,-Kitchen-Tablet,-iGrill-Thermometer/en/p/SGP312U2/WC
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Misledz said:
Sony loves competition. They're all about competition. They're so addicted to it that just to combat the Nexus 7 they made a Xperia tablet Z, kitchen edition. What the hell? links below
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Tablet,-Kitchen-Tablet,-iGrill-Thermometer/en/p/SGP312U2/WC
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Wow, tha'ts true but... what a tablet uh? How much is it?

luiseteyo said:
Wow, tha'ts true but... what a tablet uh? How much is it?
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Around $650-700 USD they estimated it. Comes with a meat thermometer LOL
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Misledz said:
Around $650-700 USD they estimated it. Comes with a meat thermometer LOL
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Lol! and if buy it now, we will send u another one for free!! They don't know what to invent...
650-700 USD isn't competition with the $229 Nexus 7... I think

luiseteyo said:
Lol! and if buy it now, we will send u another one for free!! They don't know what to invent...
650-700 USD isn't competition with the $229 Nexus 7... I think
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True but the fact that it boasts about waterproof, build quality and parts, gaming controller instigation for Ps3 and PS4 it's almost like they know how to build a sturdy tablet. Nexus 7 just has a popular dad and a reliable company which makes it popular.
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BIGSx420 said:
Yeah got pretty sick of my Galaxy S4 and it's mf3 update. Specs really don't matter to me as long as everything is stable. The only thing I'll really miss is the ir blaster. I debated on going to the htc one all the way up to the xperia z1. I'm just gonna wait. Can anyone recommend me some good roms? Something stable with features like Halo and Focal and all the good stuff? I know there's a lot and I'm late, but I'm sure there a lot of others looking for the same answers since google sold out of nexus 4s and theres a lot of new users. I should have mine tomorrow morning.
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Welcome back! Honestly though, did you use the IR blaster very often?
I personally dont know if i would use it much.

nabilfahim said:
Welcome back! Honestly though, did you use the IR blaster very often?
I personally dont know if i would use it much.
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I actually used it a lot. I would use it when I lost my remotes and got too lazy to look for them. At the sports bars to mess with my friends and some other random things. The funniest part of having it was when people would ask what app I used. Mainly iPhone users. Then i would have to explain it needs an ir blaster! Maybe the next iPhone will have them (not) lol
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Try Vanir ROM. It's the smoothest and fastest I've used, it has some unique features and a CM10.2 base. Also has Pie, Halo, Focal and tons of USEFUL tweaks.
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Welcome back... but sorry, ROM recommendation threads aren't allowed. Just read and search and flash away.
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How long will the 2012 Nexus 7 be supported?

How long do you think before Google drops support for it and we get no more updates?

Even if they do drop support for it that's what places like this are for. I'm still rocking a 5 year old phone. Granted it might not be as fancy as the newer models out there. With custom ROMs produced by the fine people of this site it's still up to date as far as what OS it can run.

i think probably soon. htc one X with tegra 3 has dropped support saying nividia did not provide the driver. I reckon for the next update, google will probably say the same thing. Just like how they stop updating galaxy nexus with the same reason

They want you to buy newer models so updates will stop on any device.
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There will still be custom ROM's that you can flash and it'll be compatible for years to come.
I've no intention of getting another tablet for a while yet I may get a chrome book next but I primarily use my Nexus 7, best thing I ever bought.
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PassingThruLife said:
How long do you think before Google drops support for it and we get no more updates?
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Google supports their devices for 18 months, so kitkat is probably the last update we get.. :-\

That's just wrong. ?
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tony056 said:
That's just wrong. ?
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what's wrong?

jonny68 got the point. There are KK roms even for the Nexus S so I'm sure we will be running the upcoming versions of Android on our N7.

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what's wrong?
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About Google stopping the support on Nexus 7 2012.

jonny68 said:
There will still be custom ROM's that you can flash and it'll be compatible for years to come.
I've no intention of getting another tablet for a while yet I may get a chrome book next but I primarily use my Nexus 7, best thing I ever bought.
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Agreed....best thing I ever bought. Totally worth the money and when it comes to support.....I'm still using a 2011 HTC rezound running kit kat thanks to the developers on here. Our nexus 7 (2012) will get updates thanks to developers for quite a while still.
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As you know Kitkat is not compatible with Galaxy Nexus, a 2011 device...
I still think that new version of Android will be compatible with Nexus 2012 (I have one so I hope so too), but probably that was the last officialy version released for this device.
It could change if they sell a new Nexus 7 this year. If they do so... I think that they will drop Nexus 2012 support this year...

The official GNex was dropped not because of the device itself (KK runs fine on my gf's GNex), but because the SoC's manufacturer (Texas Instruments) closed its SoC division and so they stopped updating the drivers and Google wants updated drivers in every new releases.

Erovia said:
The official GNex was dropped not because of the device itself (KK runs fine on my gf's GNex), but because the SoC's manufacturer (Texas Instruments) closed its SoC division and so they stopped updating the drivers and Google wants updated drivers in every new releases.
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jonny68 said:
There will still be custom ROM's that you can flash and it'll be compatible for years to come.
I've no intention of getting another tablet for a while yet I may get a chrome book next but I primarily use my Nexus 7, best thing I ever bought.
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As an owner of a previous Tegra device (g2x) I'm pretty aware of the vendor's level of support: None. Basically, once Google is done with it, nVidia will be done as well. So I wouldn't count on upgrades going on forever like we're used to with Qualcomm devices. Still, I'm getting one cheap as a backup for my N7 2013 LTE (which is in the process of getting a new screen leaving me tablet-less for now... ugh)...

Nexus devices usually get support for 18 months. So it will most likely kit kat is the last update for nexus 7 2012.
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