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NO new rom,NO new kernel,Very Low Update, (this is the end of vivid life?)

HTC Vivid topic is very quiet.
NO new rom
NO New kernel
Very Low update for roms (only De-sensed and Holics have some activate), and i think this low activate goes very soon.
so this is the end of Vivid dev life ?

No there are many good roms out there
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ronnie498 said:
No there are many good roms out there
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i know have many rom before. but it's so many time that don't have new rom. or some of them have bug and not fixed (like signalbar in de-sensed and miui)

Looks like we have 5 currently working roms, several on hold and also looks like they are being updated regularly.
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This phone isn't very popular. We aren't gointo be seeing much more development going on for it and the ROMs that are out there cover all the bases our community is capable of. That being said...every build that's out there right now is very solid and generally a joy to use. If you want a hundred sub-par ROMs to choose from, then by all means sell your phone and get a new one.
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The developers have hit a wall with ril issues so that best thing can really do is give us good tweaked stock roms. The issue is HTC didn't make the phone very developer friendly
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l0000l said:
HTC Vivid topic is very quiet.
NO new rom
NO New kernel
Very Low update for roms (only De-sensed and Holics have some activate), and i think this low activate goes very soon.
so this is the end of Vivid dev life ?
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My kernel doesn't need to be updated. Likewise roms shouldn't need to be updated regularly. If you want buggy roms or kernels that need updating a lot I would advise a different device
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My kernel doesn't need to be updated. Likewise roms shouldn't need to be updated regularly. If you want buggy roms or kernels that need updating a lot I would advise a different device
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i know your rom and kernel are now best for vivid. i use your rom and kernel. i mean add a new feature like usb otg.
(why HTC don't use usb otg? even OneX don't have this. but most of samsung have this. i think that's very important for a modern phone.)
or nobody work on jelly bean (in next forum worked but know is closed)

I'm still lost as to why we can't get a working sense 4.0 Rom.
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l0000l said:
i know your rom and kernel are now best for vivid. i use your rom and kernel. i mean add a new feature like usb otg.
(why HTC don't use usb otg? even OneX don't have this. but most of samsung have this. i think that's very important for a modern phone.)
or nobody work on jelly bean (in next forum worked but know is closed)
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I think USB otg Lso is dependent on hardwaren...could be wrong...and these roms already have plenty of features...have you used leedroid tweaks?
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I'm still lost as to why we can't get a working sense 4.0 Rom.
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Because HTC has s*** coding, doesn't provide source, when they do its s*** and a mess, att just adds to the troubles
The main problem is the rills...basically the devs can't figure out how to get signal -that's in really basic terms for the non-tech people...there's obviously more to it...
Not sure why everyone is so crazy about sense 4...looks the same to me...what we really need is a solid (real) aosp Rom...bot One based off sense...one built from source...preferbally cm9/10...either one...
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Yeah I really don't care much for htc enlight of this phone and my flyer (Cut my losses with it to get a nexus 7). My captivate was my 4th straight Samsung and I was always impressed with HTCs build quality and Sense looked cool so I thought I'd give them a chance. But now they'll never get my business ever again.
CM was always an option until I got these htc pieces of crap. I'm pretty strapped for cash at the moment but when I get back on track financially I'm buying a Nexus phone, either the gnex or its successor if it's out by then. As I've found from my Nexus tab with pure android an the most current version of android the desire to root is pretty weak
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I don't know about you but my phone stays updated and I get new kernals every other week it seems like ....
The Rom.of choice for me is wcx illuminati mod build ....google wcx illuminati and join the forum to get it
#FTW WCX
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randong said:
I don't know about you but my phone stays updated and I get new kernals every other week it seems like ....
The Rom.of choice for me is wcx illuminati mod build ....google wcx illuminati and join the forum to get it
#FTW WCX
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can you explain more about it

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can you explain more about it
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He was a dev here and made some very good roms for the vivid then some crap happened and he left/was banned. Google wcx Illuminati and register to see the roms but, you have to have 10 or more post to download them.
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He was a dev here and made some very good roms for the vivid then some crap happened and he left/was banned. Google wcx Illuminati and register to see the roms but, you have to have 10 or more post to download them.
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send link to me

bswann said:
He was a dev here and made some very good roms for the vivid then some crap happened and he left/was banned. Google wcx Illuminati and register to see the roms but, you have to have 10 or more post to download them.
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Wasn't banned ....he left and had all his stuff taken down....and if you look at some of his post it will say guest and not banned ....
And he is still making VERY GOOD builds
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I don't know why all of develpers can't work together.
every of them have a good knowledge about one piece (gps , sound , ril , ...)
there is any way to get all vivid devs together ?

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Wasn't banned ....he left and had all his stuff taken down....and if you look at some of his post it will say guest and not banned ....
And he is still making VERY GOOD builds
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Oh, OK. I wasn't around when all that happened. His builds are more than very good, lol.
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I just broke my screen. called asurion.. got myself a brand new HOX!!! PROFIT!!!

I really hope the Vivid gets some more Roms I just bought this phone 2 months ago and enjoy it and would like to see some more development
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Why is ROM development so slow for HTC phones?

I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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richyrocket said:
I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM

Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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richyrocket said:
I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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richyrocket said:
I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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richyrocket said:
Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.

I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.

Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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richyrocket said:
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.

Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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richyrocket said:
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.

I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.

[Q] 4.2 for the Holiday

The guys over in the Amaze forums recently got cm 10.1.....just wondering if anyone over here is working on it for the Holiday :fingers-crossed:

H8 is I believe.....
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A few weeks ago H8 mentioned trying to get upstream support for the Vivid. He never said we got that though. I don't think our device is popular enough
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I don't foresee it for a long time, since H8 is also the main man behind the One's CM10.1 as well. Can't be easy to juggle the projects, and the One is definitely a more important phone.

*more popular...
Its more important to get cm10.1 on the vivid... IMHO..
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Lmao. i wish our phone had a bigger userbase. :crying:

It used to
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I am in the process of learnig how to create rom for pones using my one x as a test bed so if i get a brick i still have a daily driver. I will be devolping a rom for this phone as soon as i am confident of my skills

WildfireDEV said:
I am in the process of learnig how to create rom for pones using my one x as a test bed so if i get a brick i still have a daily driver. I will be devolping a rom for this phone as soon as i am confident of my skills
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Good luck :highfive: this phone is not easy to dev for.....HTC and their ****ty source

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Good luck :highfive: this phone is not easy to dev for.....HTC and their ****ty source
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Thanks i relaised that when i tried to create a ASOP rom for my borther desire hd. Have to put Android devolpemnt on hold for studies.

Well I was talking with H8 and it seems that phone might get 4.2 after all of the other HTC phones like the one x and one s and one have stable roms but it isn't any time soon.
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HTC One - Google Edition is coming!

Fully story here at androidcentral[dot]com
This should be great, as porting it to the Sprint version should be a piece of cake for the guys at CM. When this comes out, we should have a fully functioning CM 10.1 rom for the HTC One

I wonder if this will be an official ota flash maybe an option for is running sense
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Still not official. At this point, it sure does sound like it could happen, but I'm still skeptical until I hear that official press release.

Safe to say it's official.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57586184-94/htc-one-google-edition-its-real-and-coming-in-summer/

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Safe to say it's official.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57586184-94/htc-one-google-edition-its-real-and-coming-in-summer/
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...a person familiar with the company's plans told CNET.
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Again, I'm still skeptical. It's probably going to happen, but until I see the press release, it's still just rumors.

with multiple sites reporting it, I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
I highly doubt that HTC will put out an official AOSP Rom for the Sprint/Sense versions we already have, but a developer could easily port the rom to our phones.

Weapons of mass destruction too.
They did a story about it and there are not too many benefits about running stock on this.
You lose out on Zoe and Beats Boom sound.
What HTC needed to do was add a shutter button.

I would be more than willing to give up Zoe and Beats Audio (Which is basically just an EQ setting you could replicate in CM) in exchange for pure google 4.2.2 ROM, or CM 10.1

Only if...
I agree with the physical shutter button. One like the evo 3d had would be awesome.
I am very very excited at the potential for aosp...but I would miss zoe.

I hate the shutter button. Always hitting it on accident on the LTE.
OP, thanks for heads up about this :thumbup:
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Will stock Android be able to make use of the optical image stabilization?

Sense 5 >>>>>>>> Stock Android.

it's finally official, release date June 26th
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/5/30/4379796/htc-one-google-edition-announced-stock-android
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Ok, NOW I'm no longer skeptical.

eXplicit815 said:
Ok, NOW I'm no longer skeptical.
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now we can see super stable AOSP roms
when a dump is available

flex360 said:
now we can see super stable AOSP roms
when a dump is available
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Yeah, but how well will this work if they're only unlocked for AT&T and T-Mobile?

eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, but how well will this work if they're only unlocked for AT&T and T-Mobile?
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It'll work but getting the radios to function over will be a chore I would imagine.
I'm sad they just don't flat out have a CDMA version to go along with it.

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It'll work but getting the radios to function over will be a chore I would imagine.
I'm sad they just don't flat out have a CDMA version to go along with it.
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Yet

Fuzzbutt said:
Yet
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Here's to hoping!
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Beats audio included in Google edition!!
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Upgrade time - How's the CM experience?

Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
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i say hold out until the next htc phone is announced

m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing

ticklemepinks said:
i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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But the HTC one is riddled with QC issues and doesn't really improve much over the last Gen of phones. The next Gen has snapdragon 800, 3000 mAh batteries and whatnot. Plus, the 800s are really close. Like the G2 is already here.
The One isn't that good IMHO. The camera is overhyped really and the number of defects people are reporting make this phone worth skipping.

To stay on track with your question the CM experience is something I don't think someone in their right mind would recomend. Hell it has a tendency to burn up some phones and need replaced.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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My $0.02:
For the short while I was able to use CM, I wasn't exactly blown away. It was exactly the same as my GS2, but with better specs. There were no extra features or anything. It looked nice with Black Infinitum, but again, not really different from my old phone. There were some bugs, so...
And you do have to watch out for the max freq lock, which will burn up your phone as it sits.
EDIT: However, CM Nemesis is coming soon. I would still wait for for a new device with better specs, but hey, this is a fairly new device.

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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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I really haven't had any issues since 10.1
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I used it for a week while on vacation and while it was nice to see a less bloated One with all the additional customization .. there were several issues and features that made me go back.
The biggest was GPS lock - I could not get a steady lock and if I did the radius was quite large, throwing me all over the map.
The phone actually seemed less responsive overall - including a slight delay when turning on the phone.
Missed the htc car app - google car and the ones from the market are not the same
and the IR - now it has only come in handy once, when my remote died; however, the remote can be fun at the bar

The HTCOne is a unique phone, the button layout is strange and is my biggest headache. Contrary to most posts above I like the CM experience on it better then sense, but this is my first (and only ever!) sense phone. I much prefer the AOSP experience. CM is lacking in a few places but core functionality is there and works good enough for me for daily use, for the record I'm on 10.2 20130819
Truthfully though I think I would wait for a new nexus device. I love the feel of the One in my hand but it's nothing amazing hardware wise.

You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Progress is being made. I just post a build in the 10.2 thread with working ir sensor.
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systemshock869 said:
Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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No major issues for everyday use. I've been running nightlies since I got the phone. Battery life is awesome and no random reboots.

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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Ok you lost me.. Did you click the link??
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.

sauprankul said:
Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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the.emilio said:
On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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Well crap. Thanks though. Are these even recognized issues?