Flash firmware question - Moto X Q&A

hi
i want to flash with Rdslite and with cmd a Verizon firmware to my stock 4.4 moto x dev edition
and i am getting some errors
with flash recovery
do i need to unlock bootloader for flashing other firmwares?
thank u

danger2u said:
hi
i want to flash with Rdslite and with cmd a Verizon firmware to my stock 4.4 moto x dev edition
and i am getting some errors
with flash recovery
do i need to unlock bootloader for flashing other firmwares?
thank u
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Yes..you need to unlock boot loader first. I could be wrong....I'm not an rsd expert. Lol. Should say on that thread...first post.
You can root without unlocking, but you're limited in what you can still do.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....

kj2112 said:
Yes..you need to unlock boot loader first. I could be wrong....I'm not an rsd expert. Lol. Should say on that thread...first post.
You can root without unlocking, but you're limited in what you can still do.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
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no you can downgrade from 4.4 to 4.2.2 with a locked bootloader. many people have done it. you just cant flash CWM or TWRP with a locked bootloader.
here check out this thread it shows two ways to flash back to 4.2.2 and even has a video you can watch hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515

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Rooting

What is the past of least resistance to root a 4.4 tmo X? In order to keep data, is it still that insanely long process?
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WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
KidJoe said:
WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
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thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
km8j said:
thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
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OTA's will be more painful with #2 as there will be more to restore to stock. And of course the unknowns of if the new OTA will be rootable or not, and how long before a root process comes out.
For #1, you should be able to just put stock recovery back and take the OTA, then reflash TWRP and re-root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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km8j said:
Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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flashallthetime said:
Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
xpsychox said:
Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
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You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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Same with Rogers, only versions that can't unlock are Verizon and AT&T consumer version
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quickstang said:
You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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I knew u couldn't do on at and Verizon...but he also never said what he had..not that I saw
Slapped my Moto
and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
DanRo80 said:
and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
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There was another thread about this... Guy said he used a new gmail account and got email
Slapped my Moto
Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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km8j said:
Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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Well, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader, SlapMyMoto (which now incorporates the MotoWpNoMo process into its steps) is the only way (there have been some efforts to consolidate/automate the process). And may not be usable if you're already on 4.4.2 (taking the 4.4.2 OTA update or flashing the full 4.4.2 SBF prevents you from flashing older ROMs which is a crucial step in using SlapMyMoto).
I've not see a 4.4.2 specific root process for locked bootloaders yet, but to be honest, I have a unlocked bootloader, so I haven't been completely paying attention.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, root process is still the same.
there is not going to be any new way to root 4.4 is not going to get a new exploit because 4.4.2 is out and Devs are working on finding a way to root it so the people with locked bootloaders can update.
if you want to root your device you have allready been giving the only 2 ways to do it
Locked bootloader - SlapMyMoto
Unlocked bootloader - Customer Recovery and SUPERSU
please dont bump your thread for info you allready have.
here is a link to both guides for both methods and a guide for unlocking your bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358

Flashing without unlocking bootloader??

i need to know if i can flash a Verizon firmware on a moto x without unlocking the bootloader
thank u
Yes. Signed firmware will flash but it must be the firmware designed for your phone
gunnyman said:
Yes. Signed firmware will flash but it must be the firmware designed for your phone
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what do u mean with firmware designed for ur phone?
it can't be custom if has to be the stock OTA firmware packages so either 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 for your Verizon phone
dray_jr said:
it can't be custom if has to be the stock OTA firmware packages so either 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 for your Verizon phone
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so mine it s unlocked t-mobile and i want to flash the 4.4 verizon firmware for the italian language
that what i mean
danger2u said:
so mine it s unlocked t-mobile and i want to flash the 4.4 verizon firmware for the italian language
that what i mean
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Ok im not sure why you would want to do that.
your phone is only unlocked for GSM carrier's
Sprint/Verizon are CDMA carriers so you will never be able to take your unlocked moto X over to them.
so i guess the question i need to ask is why are you wanted to flash the verizon firmware on your T-Mobile Moto X
dray_jr said:
Ok im not sure why you would want to do that.
your phone is only unlocked for GSM carrier's
Sprint/Verizon are CDMA carriers so you will never be able to take your unlocked moto X over to them.
so i guess the question i need to ask is why are you wanted to flash the verizon firmware on your T-Mobile Moto X
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because Verizon have italian language on system.T mobile doesn t have.
i used Verizon with my first moto x and i flashed over T mobile firmware but i dont remember if i unlocked the bootloader or not
it is a signed firmware so you should be able to flash it without unlocking the bootloader.
i did some research and weird that only verizon offers all the Languages. have you tried flashing a rom like the one below it is made for verizon and all gsm it might have everything you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509
dray_jr said:
it is a signed firmware so you should be able to flash it without unlocking the bootloader.
i did some research and weird that only verizon offers all the Languages. have you tried flashing a rom like the one below it is made for verizon and all gsm it might have everything you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509
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i will try eclipse too but with that i must unlock the bootloader and i don t want
danger2u said:
i will try eclipse too but with that i must unlock the bootloader and i don t want
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safestrap
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
dray_jr said:
safestrap
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
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thanks
this really help me
a dual boot os
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[Q] [Tips&Ques]When I restore Unlocked able device CID,The motox Bricked!!!

My friend Has a verizon carrier motox. Rooted.Not Unlock. I wan't to unlock it.So,I got a verizon dev. ed. motox cid.img and unlock code,wan't unlock it.
I restore the dev. ed Motox cid.img(mmcbll0p29) using adb shell:
Code:
cat /sdcard/cid.img > /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cid
But...friend's motox Bricked....
AP Fastboot Mode tips CID wrong.Stuck in the ap,status system hub 0x39,Unable to boot.
I use dev.ed motox unlock code to unlock verizon motox, CMD display "fastboot oem unlock disabled! "...
The bricked verizon motox can't flash any firmware.Tip "Preflash validation failure"
What should I do????Help me..Please!!! Please!! Thanks!!!
Dusty tears said:
My friend Has a verizon carrier motox. Rooted.Not Unlock. I wan't to unlock it.So,I got a verizon dev. ed. motox cid.img and unlock code,wan't unlock it.
I restore the dev. ed Motox cid.img(mmcbll0p29) using adb shell:
Code:
cat /sdcard/cid.img > /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cid
But...friend's motox Bricked....
AP Fastboot Mode tips CID wrong.Stuck in the ap,status system hub 0x39,Unable to boot.
I use dev.ed motox unlock code to unlock verizon motox, CMD display "fastboot oem unlock disabled! "...
The bricked verizon motox can't flash any firmware.Tip "Preflash validation failure"
What should I do????Help me..Please!!! Please!! Thanks!!!
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You can not and will never be able to unlock the boot loader on a consumer Verizon variant, lesson learned. Your only hope in hell maybe? Is to run the 4.4.2 sbf firmware for Verizon only only only only only, no its not out and maybe awhile before its available
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
You can not and will never be able to unlock the boot loader on a consumer Verizon variant, lesson learned. Your only hope in hell maybe? Is to run the 4.4.2 sbf firmware for Verizon only only only only only, no its not out and maybe awhile before its available
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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I think 4.4.2 firemware can't to save it.Because CID is wrong,can't flash anything.That sounds Bad..:crying:
maybe I substitute the CPU suite or substitute Phone main board can save it...Fixed it should spend about $135:crying::crying::crying::crying:....
Dusty tears said:
I think 4.4.2 firemware can't to save it.Because CID is wrong,can't flash anything.That sounds Bad..:crying:
maybe I change the CPU suite or change Phone main board can save it...Fixed it should spend about $135:crying::crying::crying::crying:....
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Wait for the sbf firmware, if you can access the fastboot menu, it's not totally done, the sbf firmware will hopefully flash it back, you need it anyways ,even if you swap out the internals, and do not flash any other sbf firmware ,it will hard brick it
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Wait ,you can flash the 4.4 Verizon sbf firmware because you haven't updated to 4.4.2 yet
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
I'm new to Motorola flashing, can anyone explain the purpose of cid partition, thanks.
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eksasol said:
I'm new to Motorola flashing, can anyone explain the purpose of cid partition, thanks.
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CID partition is the unlock bootloader certificate.CID parition include the factory information and Carrier information.If no this parition or partition wrong,can't unlock bootloader,and can't flash any firmware.
But on droid razr, erase this parition can flash other carrier's firmware. e.g. XT910 UK retail firmware,
Like the attached picture:
Do you find something???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2578154&stc=1&d=1392344682
flashallthetime said:
Wait for the sbf firmware, if you can access the fastboot menu, it's not totally done, the sbf firmware will hopefully flash it back, you need it anyways ,even if you swap out the internals, and do not flash any other sbf firmware ,it will hard brick it
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Wait ,you can flash the 4.4 Verizon sbf firmware because you haven't updated to 4.4.2 yet
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Okey,man.I don't find another way.
DO YOU have the original CID partition ?just restore it ,i can help you

[Q] Root the European Version MOTO X XT1052?

Hey guys, has anybody achieved root on the spanking new XT1052 the European variant of the Moto X?
I tried getting the bootloader unlocked from Moto support site and apparently the device was not up for bootloader unlocking.. Bumer
Would the XT1053 root methods work? I'm a semi Noob so I'd rather ask before I do something stupid.
Thanks in advance people.
I believe that phone shipped with version 4.4.2, which means the only way to gain root(at this time) is by unlocking the bootloader.
Steve-x said:
I believe that phone shipped with version 4.4.2, which means the only way to gain root(at this time) is by unlocking the bootloader.
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Once you unlock the bootloader how do you gain root?
I had no problems unlocking my XT1052. Are you sure you put the string together correctly?
drago10029 said:
Once you unlock the bootloader how do you gain root?
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Flash a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) via fastboot and then flash SuperSu zip. There are numerous guides how to do this exactly.
Thats the thing, i get the unlocking data when i paste it in the required feild to get an email to unlock the bootloader, it says my bootloader is not qualified for unlocking?
jniklast said:
I had no problems unlocking my XT1052. Are you sure you put the string together correctly?
Flash a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) via fastboot and then flash SuperSu zip. There are numerous guides how to do this exactly.
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actually i just checked i didnt paste the string right, now i unlocked the bootloader! yay
jniklast said:
I had no problems unlocking my XT1052. Are you sure you put the string together correctly?
Flash a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) via fastboot and then flash SuperSu zip. There are numerous guides how to do this exactly.
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I checked the info thread but it didn't say if the process worked for 4.4.2, I found out once bootloader is unlocked you can flash as needed. Thanks for the response!
All the guides about installing custom recovery after unlocking the bootloader posted here are for 4.4. Are they applicable to 4.4.2 also?
DaRkRhiNe said:
All the guides about installing custom recovery after unlocking the bootloader posted here are for 4.4. Are they applicable to 4.4.2 also?
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Yes. Just have the proper custom recovery.
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DaRkRhiNe said:
All the guides about installing custom recovery after unlocking the bootloader posted here are for 4.4. Are they applicable to 4.4.2 also?
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This guide -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738 says its for 4.4 and 4.4.2... (and yes, it works.)

[Q] Install ROM without installing root

So I have an unlockable bootloader XT1058. Currently running 4.4.2 I wanted to root, but have read rooting includes downgrading and doing things I'm not too comfortable in doing (image flashing has claimed one of my phones before). So I was thinking, installing CWM or TWRP looks actually simpler than rooting the phone. I really don't care about losing data on the phone, but would like to do a nandroid before installing a custom ROM. So the question is: can I Install custom recovery, do a nandroid and flash custom ROM without first rooting?
IonAphis said:
So I have an unlockable bootloader XT1058. Currently running 4.4.2 I wanted to root, but have read rooting includes downgrading and doing things I'm not too comfortable in doing (image flashing has claimed one of my phones before). So I was thinking, installing CWM or TWRP looks actually simpler than rooting the phone. I really don't care about losing data on the phone, but would like to do a nandroid before installing a custom ROM. So the question is: can I Install custom recovery, do a nandroid and flash custom ROM without first rooting?
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Return it for a developer edition moto , cause you're never ever going to be able the flash custom recovery with a locked boot loader
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
Return it for a developer edition moto , cause you're never ever going to be able the flash custom recovery with a locked boot loader
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Did you read at all?? I have an UNLOCKABLE bootloader.. Not locked...
IonAphis said:
Did you read at all?? I have an UNLOCKABLE bootloader.. Not locked...
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Nice temper ya got there.
Technically ...an unlockable boot loader would mean you have the only Moto x in existence that has a boot loader incapable of being locked. Ever. Lol
Also....did you read at all? If you mean to say your boot loader is unlocked, then flashing a custom recovery and rooting is the easiest thing in the world to do. And the info on doing it is all over the Moto x forums.......but.....you'd have to read. it's no different than doing it on a nexus. Just a hint.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
IonAphis said:
Did you read at all?? I have an UNLOCKABLE bootloader.. Not locked...
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You change it from locked to unlocked, so unlock it flash recovery and you can do what ever you want from there
Rooting is up to you but most people root , you don't need to
Yes I would suggest doing a nandroid prior to rooting of the stock system img
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
kj2112 said:
Nice temper ya got there.
Technically ...an unlockable boot loader would mean you have the only Moto x in existence that has boot loader incapable of being locked.
Also....did you read at all? If you mean to say your boot loader is unlocked, then flashing a custom recovery and rooting is the easiest thing in the world to do. And the info on doing it is all over the Moto x forums.......but.....you'd have to read.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Sorry for the response, I'm on the phone and didn't really measure my response.. The thing I wanted to know is if my bootloader is unlocked, can I install custom recovery and do a nandroid without first having root or is root necessary to install custom recovery and backup?
IonAphis said:
Sorry for the response, I'm on the phone and didn't really measure my response.. The thing I wanted to know is if my bootloader is unlocked, can I install custom recovery and do a nandroid without first having root or is root necessary to install custom recovery and backup?
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Root is not required. Unlock bootloader, mfastboot flash recovery, boot into recovery and you can nondroid back up.
IonAphis said:
Sorry for the response, I'm on the phone and didn't really measure my response.. The thing I wanted to know is if my bootloader is unlocked, can I install custom recovery and do a nandroid without first having root or is root necessary to install custom recovery and backup?
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Never have I flashed a custom recovery and not immediately rooted after. So try it. It'll work or it won't. LOL
Why not root? Its simple. Twrp will do it for you even.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
gokart2 said:
Root is not required. Unlock bootloader, mfastboot flash recovery, boot into recovery and you can nondroid back up.
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OK thanks. I just read somewhere that to do the nandroid you had to have root since you could not access certain directories... I've had Nexus phones for the last 3 phones so I'm not used to all this knieving and shady proceedings to install root and ROMs
kj2112 said:
Never have I flashed a custom recovery and not immediately rooted after. So try it. It'll work or it won't. LOL
Why not root? Its simple. Twrp will do it for you even.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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So the slapmymoto thing is just for those people with locked bootloader???
IonAphis said:
OK thanks. I just read somewhere that to do the nandroid you had to have root since you could not access certain directories... I've had Nexus phones for the last 3 phones so I'm not used to all this knieving and shady proceedings to install root and ROMs
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An unlocked Moto x is no different than a nexus at all. As far as rooting and installing roms.
Except maybe backward compatibility. My N7 today I flashed the 4.2.2 bootloader....from kit kat and flashed a 4.2.2 rom after. That won't work on an x.
But as long as you're not trying to go back in versions....the procedure for the x and a nexus are nearly identical. Unlocked bootloader x's of course.
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IonAphis said:
So the slapmymoto thing is just for those people with locked bootloader???
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Yes
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
IonAphis said:
So I have an unlockable bootloader XT1058. Currently running 4.4.2 I wanted to root, but have read rooting includes downgrading and doing things I'm not too comfortable in doing (image flashing has claimed one of my phones before). So I was thinking, installing CWM or TWRP looks actually simpler than rooting the phone. I really don't care about losing data on the phone, but would like to do a nandroid before installing a custom ROM. So the question is: can I Install custom recovery, do a nandroid and flash custom ROM without first rooting?
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