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What People Should Know About Samsung And Nexus

after 1 year hanging out with teamhacksung irc I have learned alot about samsung the developers of cyanogenmod and teamhacksung has done a great job to do everything they can to bring AOSP Experience
I gotten my phone ( Samsung Galaxy S2 International Version I9100) and back then I dont even know how android works I went for the phone cause of how people booster it was the best phone and beating iPhone 4 which I previously own after months of research and chit-chatting with codeworkx I have learned alot and understand today why he dump samsung exynos support
those who know this will understand that there are bugs in Cyanogenmod 7 for samsung devices which can never be fixed and people blame the community for that and not doing their job
the only reason why it is like this it cause of undocumented stuff and closed drivers sources which are not even out and we until today have never really felt the power of project butter/ics true experiences on our devices
I have waited long enough and suffered so much from samsung Im sorry samsung you guys have lost my respect.
those who are complaining about why this phone does not support LTE get a Optimus G , I don't really know about AOSP Support on Optimus G since LG Controls it how they update or release the source or drivers are closed source atleast it is not Exynos and Mali :good:
so what is nexus about then ?
nexus is more for people who are interested in android development and more on android since it is control by google software and LG Hardware it is a two way thing
and google is still supporting Galaxy Nexus and it is good phone
anyway yes Im getting a Nexus 4 and those who has Galaxy Nexus think carefully about switching as google is not like samsung who release tons of devices and forgets about old one
cheers
p.s mod I dont really know where to post this but if you could move it and dont close this thread as I feel that it is a understanding on educating some people on how android and google works.
thanks
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iKillCypher(teamhacksung/cyanogenmod supporter)

[Q] I want to hear your opinion on the development of GT-N7000

Especially those people who owned the Note since the beginning in Q4 2011.
What do you think of the development of our Exynos-based Note?
How do you feel after one year that CM for our Note even our little brother S2 is not fully working?
Are you satisfied with the stock ROMs provided by Samsung?
How about the superbrick fiasco? Do you think Samsung should have done something more quickly?
What do you think of the Jelly Bean update for Note? Quality is there?
EDIT: One more question. Will you consider a Samsung for your next device?

Development - good not that bad
CyanogenMod - Not working at its full potential but it is still my daily driver
Satisfaction with Samsung firmware ? - Are you kidding ?
How about the superbrick fiasco ? - I considered selling selling my note when Superbrick bug was detected but there were no other 5' phones at that time. Even now, non-removable battery (Xperia Z and others) is a deal-breaker for me.
Jelly bean update - It does not have professional and finishing touch as I quoted your post in other thread.
Am I happy with my Note ?
I am happy because I'm content and I am content because I am happy

For your every question it's a no.. There are not much development even some peps here think uploading the stock deodex rom with xyz name adding some mods which are already present on forum individually is a developmnet..? A big no, but the elite xda-developers who are trying their best bringing cutting edge work and something innovative to android development world is called development and i am very thankful to them.. But still it's not up to par.. I wish i bought a nexus device in place of note regarding android development and modding.. And sammy is just to lazy in providing update to our device and providing source codes, stock jb is just unacceptable for me it's too laggy for anyone who uses cm as a daily driver.. I am afraid to say that cm is also not fully functional, the memory leak sometimes make me go crazy but have to live with this sh*t truth about my beloved note.. After all i love my note than any other device owned by me in past and please don't term me as complainig it's all what any note user has in his heart to say.. And yeah how can i forget about brick bug, when my note firstly got affected by it i was like what the heck is wrong with my baby it is dead and you will not believe still i fear from doing any wipes it doesn't matter if i have modified kernel or not and the black crush issue is like never gonna sorted out
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Development - we hamper our own progress, more politics than codes, groupism, lack of feedback, squelching of viable ideas
CM - an alternative to explore but not be ruled/smothered by.
Samsung performance - Good in many ways- stable, battery friendly/new features/ frequent updates. Good inspite of black clipping, highly priced devices and poor build quality.
Brickbug - never existed beyond the walls of xda and/or rooting process.
Jelly bean - better than ics
Had a lot of fun with my Note. if i didnt have it , with my past experience of it, Id go for a Samsung product but would wait for price to go down first.
NB - Can you really hope for an unbiased answer ? where you become popular and part of the herd if you call Sammy Crapsung and start off your OP with a statement like - I hate Touchwiz , and thanks are heaped on you for it ? Hate begets hate.
I never put forth my views for argument so dont even try.

1 No development to full potential without Exymos drivers, still ppl did best they could. Most devs left by now
[email protected] ... ... ...them.
3No, but some custom ROMs are/were good.
4My phone has sane chip - they should recall vulnerable devices or deliver sw fix earlier.
5For me on AllianceLSZ it is as close as possibly, but I did not tried stock version.
Last one. I don't think so. They grow to big market share - lame corporation. They are lying, promising and not delivering. All I liked -big screen now is no longer Samsung's only thing. I am not fond of cheap plastic too. I liked sd card and removable battery.
Time will tell. HTC one Motorolla X LG who knows?

Development you can't talk about it since it is for every device separate and the devices high end life is under 6 months so developers are using the hit and run tactic since after awhile the device isn't popular and if you now add the delay of source to be given from the manufacture tell me what can - could you await from the developers. Who they make this with 0 to low profit gain except few of them, but that's another story.
You can't compare s2 with any device out there. S2 is legen wait for it dary .
Samsungs firmware upgrade policy was ok till ics came out, the updates where faster then you could find all the changes from one. After the second ics firmware the things did go worse, if I remember right it was s3 comming out time. And before the note 2 was introduced there was the end.
Profit rules them all.
If you don't buy that you will buy the other. Tell me a company who is making a good device with great support? None.
Google isn't producing her own devices.
Apple? Come on you can spend your money somewhere else.
As long smartphones aren't as PC's where you can add 10, different self picked, parts to make a phone and after that you pick a OS to install on it with the drivers for the parts. Till then you will pay to be happy when you will get a fully operating device with SOME of the things you need.
Own a DBT N7000
Flashed first time on JB leak since till then, the device and OS was enought/had nothing to offer more, to my needs.
Cm never used it. But N7000 without spen? Huge respect to the guys and girls for supporting so many devices ofc.
Let the "flames" begin.
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1 [Development]. Well, there are some sweet ROMs and mods, but my mate that recommended looking for stuff here some time ago said there's everything here, and TBH I don't see it, was looking for ported S Memo for JB, ink effect for S Pen only and other small mods and didn't find anything
2 [CM]. Never cared about it, I picked Note for features built around TW
3 [Stocks]. Until JB, it was pretty good, new features, not too much crap, stable and efficient
4 [Brick]. Terrible mistake and marketing failure, didn't affect me fortunately
5 [JB]. Nope, it's a total disappointment, I was eager to update it ASAP, but after I did it I was like "WHAT THE HELL MAN?". Sad, sad update
6 [Sammy]. I never considered any Samsung's phone other than SII or Note, so no

I am still very happy with my Note...with some work to be done, JB is very fast and stable and bugfree...i tried all CM and his derivates and they are great, but i still like modded stock most, mainly for all the features coming with it or possible to add - and it lags 0 (in words ZERO) for me...brickbug was an awful mistake, bricked 2 devices for me (one i got repaired on warranty)...i dont care about blackclipping cause it never affected me that much...
And cause this seems to be the 'bash sammy and note 1 thread' i am looking forward to some public flogging

I am also happy with my note.
I feel there is a strong but disappointed community regarding development. Most developers have strained that Samsung closedness in regards of hardware level drivers have halted back development months if not a year.
I personally feel the folowing is true: because of difficulty in basic os openeness guys like CM team have found time wanting in further development then basic os. I saw endevours in spen functionality and firmly believe if Samsung was more open, not only would rom development taken off more but also the app development. Just gettting rom functional has sucked the living daylights out of a lot of good devs. Had that not been the case they would have been motivated and have time left to revolutionizing further spen/apps stuff. This is a cascading effect.
I in that sense having seen burnouts and close burnouts with certain devs, am definitely not dissapointed in the devs. Greatfull for their devotion and spirit. In Samsung, yes definately dissapointed. I love what Samsung did with JB. But this whole ordeal is not a good example of transforming an opensource platform into a true community platform. That Samsung can do better. Must do better, because the XDA community is already speaking of moving from Samsung to more dev friendly mobiles. Samsung needs to turn that around.
Their future lineup is promising, but with this trackrecord, its not gonna appeal the devs into storming buyin.
More and more users are following favorite devs, if those devs move away, so will xda members following those devs. Time to step up the game Samsung, we know you want to.

Note is a great device(except battery) for me.Yeah,I miss more ported roms from other phones too,but today we have so many different chips and without sources for drivers I know it's hard...
...from SG NOTE N7000 with Tapatalk 2

Livebyte said:
What do you think of the development of our Exynos-based Note?
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From Samsung, laughable. From individuals, can't ask more.
How do you feel after one year that CM for our Note even our little brother S2 is not fully working?
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Read somewhere that Samsung denied CM Officials' request to release TW Source. IMHO, I don't know if its true or actually a matter of concern but it is quite noticeable that other manufacturers' devices have amazing CMs whereas TW based phones are suffering.
Are you satisfied with the stock ROMs provided by Samsung?
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No.
Dear Samsung, Nobody wants your ****ing motion sensor voodoo you call "Smart-this-Smart-that" and annoying visual/audio effects you call "Nature-Nature". Your idea of using a Digitizer with a phone? Excellent. Making a phone that is a Milestone for Smartphones? Fantastic. Providing Dedicated apps? Orgasmic. ****ty optimization? You lost me.
How about the superbrick fiasco? Do you think Samsung should have done something more quickly?
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Lost my "dear" to that once. My Beloved Samsung with Amazing Proprietary Issues.
What do you think of the Jelly Bean update for Note? Quality is there?
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Pfffffhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD
Will you consider a Samsung for your next device?
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Probably. When it comes to RAW Power, Samsung doesn't shy away. That's the beauty of it.

Note has many achievements.
1. It tasted 3 flavors of android.
2. Its the first >5 inch phone which changed the way of users habit.
3. It has seen the mist development more than galaxy nexus. It got all tge major custom releases with tw stock roms as a bonus.
4. Its the only phone which even after 1 and a half year life has a place in users heart.
5. It was a future proof device of its time and the way dev helped it groom is remarkable.
6. Thanks to devs who despite being annoying contributes so much to make our experience good.
Entropy, dr.ketan,Eybee1976, chasmodo, Criskelo, and so many others who take out time to make things better.
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Why No updates custom roms made for Galaxy Camera My Question/Request to Developers

Hey everybody, I was really excited when I first saw videos and reviews about this Camera And I bought one for myself, but since then there are no ROM updates or custom rooms nor any mods for this device? Why there is no development work done for this GC100 camera..? Don't you guys think it's a popular and good device and there are many users who want to customize their GC, alteast port note3 or s5 camera to this device plz plz its a Request you guys are amazing and I know you can do it n I hope you will.. Thanks
Regards

rahib172 said:
Hey everybody, I was really excited when I first saw videos and reviews about this Camera And I bought one for myself, but since then there are no ROM updates or custom rooms nor any mods for this device? Why there is no development work done for this GC100 camera..? Don't you guys think it's a popular and good device and there are many users who want to customize their GC, alteast port note3 or s5 camera to this device plz plz its a Request you guys are amazing and I know you can do it n I hope you will.. Thanks
Regards
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I would settle for a custom recovery...

This is a typical scenerio with the Camera 2 now out and the K Zoom. As soon as upgraded models and especially completely new models are released development usually comes to a screeching halt on the previous models. These are not wildly popular devices, so it's not too surprising that there was never much development to begin with. The same development fizzle happened with my Note 2 phone, and lack of popularity was a big problem with my Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet.

internetpilot said:
This is a typical scenerio with the Camera 2 now out and the K Zoom. As soon as upgraded models and especially completely new models are released development usually comes to a screeching halt on the previous models. These are not wildly popular devices, so it's not too surprising that there was never much development to begin with. The same development fizzle happened with my Note 2 phone, and lack of popularity was a big problem with my Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet.
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Do you think for the sake of this device you could pull someone to get a ROM made?

Didn't I read somewhere on XDA that Philz and Clockwork Mod are no longer producing custom recoveries? Or was that device specific? I thought I read that TWRP is the only name in the recovery game currently.

[REQUEST/DISCUSSION] CM12 for 805/705

Mod moved my post dont know why but hey.
Anyhow we need to get this sorted we need to discussion a way of getting CM12/CM12 based for the 805/705 lte.
cheers guys

If you were requesting that would be a question which is for q and a thread. All you needed to do was add (discussion) to make it stay in general thread. But you should be good for now

As much as i'd love seeing that happen, it is very unlikely.
See, The Tab S (1st Gen) is almost at the end of its "flagship" cycle, the 2nd gen was announced, that's the one that will most likely get attention.

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As much as i'd love seeing that happen, it is very unlikely.
See, The Tab S (1st Gen) is almost at the end of it's "flagship" circle, the 2nd gen was announced, that's the one who will most likely get attention.
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But but buuuuuut.... Some people will buy this tab s since it will be cheap.

Yes, but new projects/development are unlikely, they usually start WITH the release of the equipment, not at the end of their premium cycle.

I really don't know if this is true but I think/hope when official tw lollipop is out that might help in cm12 development.

Could happen because Samsung is going exynos-only this gen of Galaxy S, if they force Exynos, development will be shifted to Exynos, but still, i wouldn't keep my hopes too high.
Reason is, this device will be a year old in a couple of months, its not a maintream device, especially the LTE versions, so while not impossible, i think it is unlikely.

Wow so you guys think it's cool for a less than year old device to not get updated to a major OS release. I guess Samsung has trained its customers to have low expectation.

barth2 said:
wow so you guys think it's cool for a less than year old device to not get updated to a major os release. I guess samsung has trained its customers to have low expectation.
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barth2 said:
Wow so you guys think it's cool for a less than year old device to not get updated to a major OS release. I guess Samsung has trained its customers to have low expectation.
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This thread is about CM12, of course the 705/805 variants will get official Touchwizz Lollipop.

Hi Guys,
Im in the process of porting CM11 to the SM-T805, I stuck with cm11 for now untill samsung releases a lollipop rom for the closed libs, then I will turn my attention to CM12
Most of my work on CM11 should help with CM12
Here is my CM11 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...5-lte-16gb-t3042201/post59128530#post59128530

Question Custom rom?

Hello. There is no custom rom for samsung s23 (sm-911b / ds)?

No, and sadly, there will unlikely ever be.
It looks like you are new to XDA, actually you should only add the "Development" tag if you are actually posting your own development, questions and discussions like this should have the "Question" tag.

Lol ... Very curious to know what come to the conclusion "and sadly, there will unlikely ever be".
The phone has been released 3 months ago, stop staying misinformation.
There is already one for the S23 ultra.

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Hello. There is no custom rom for samsung s23 (sm-911b/ds)?
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[ROM] BeyondROM v1.2 [16/05/2023]-[AWD1]-[SM-S91xB]
Latest Version v1.2 [16/05/2023] ROM Maintainer: Andrei @starbucks2010 ROM Info: Supported devices: S23 Ultra SM-S918B & S23 S911B ROM Base: S91xBXXU1AWD1 (Android 13 OneUI 5.1) May2023 Patch Level ROM Features: Kernel: Stock Samsung...
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gaara19 said:
Lol ... Very curious to know what come to the conclusion "and sadly, there will unlikely ever be".
The phone has been released 3 months ago, stop staying misinformation.
There is already one for the S23 ultra.
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Yeah it's not certain a custom rom will never be released, but the software currently being released by OEMs (and especially Samsung IMO) is already so jam packed with features and quite well executed as well.
I once used to root every android phone I had and even flashed new roms daily as I was doing beta testing. Ever since my Pixel 5 however, this desire has been gone completely. And it appears this is the same for other users, as the user activity on XDA is only a fraction of what it used to be in the days when I was still here for Samsung Nexus S and Galaxy S4 roms.

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Yeah it's not certain a custom rom will never be released, but the software currently being released by OEMs (and especially Samsung IMO) is already so jam packed with features and quite well executed as well.
I once used to root every android phone I had and even flashed new roms daily as I was doing beta testing. Ever since my Pixel 5 however, this desire has been gone completely. And it appears this is the same for other users, as the user activity on XDA is only a fraction of what it used to be in the days when I was still here for Samsung Nexus S and Galaxy S4 roms.
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It's really a community thing. I agree users tend to not using custom ROM anymore. And yes, it's coming mostly because Android is just becoming as almost perfect and Samsung is really doing a great job with OneUi & update on time.
But I believe users tend also to keep the same smartphone longer than before. So I guess , and if the community is still there, custom ROM could have a big place once Samsung will stop to do major update on the S23 (in four years approximately).
So let's see, this phone is awesome, and could have the perfect hardware to make it alive longer than 4 years.
The future will tell

If some people work on bringing up LineageOS on this phone please let us know. People are already working on the OnePlus 11 and Moto X40, with non-booting builds for now.
We need to join forces to bring AOSP/LineageOS to the sm8550. CAF sources are available, Samsung sources too, bootloaders can be unlocked, so there's no reason we can't achieve this.

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If some people work on bringing up LineageOS on this phone please let us know. People are already working on the OnePlus 11 and Moto X40, with non-booting builds for now.
We need to join forces to bring AOSP/LineageOS to the sm8550. CAF sources are available, Samsung sources too, bootloaders can be unlocked, so there's no reason we can't achieve this.
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yess samsung release their source code, but sometimes they left few broken code that couldn't be track down easily because of no version control system.

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yess samsung release their source code, but sometimes they left few broken code that couldn't be track down easily because of no version control system.
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Yeah I know that unfortunately, but there's still CAF sources