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I remember reading news some time ago that said the Galaxy Tab 7" would be getting Gingerbread by the 1st Qtr of 2011. Well there's 2 days left and I haven't seen or heard anything about this..not even anything about it getting postponed.
I know we all want Honeycomb on our devices, i'm just being more realistic about what we can get now. A bunch of devices already have 2.3, when will the tab get it?
Does anyone have any news whatsoever about official firmware updates from Samsung?
It's Samsung. Did you REALLY expect to get any form of an update?
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It's Samsung. Did you REALLY expect to get any form of an update?
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good point.....so 2.2 is a dead end for our TAB ?
The only rumour I heard came from SamFirmware, and it said end Q1, beginning Q2. However, since it wasn't from Samsung, you can't take it as fact.
See here.
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What I think is that Galaxy Tab 7" is an already dead product for Samsung.
So, Samsung is an already dead brand for me. I will never ever buy anything else from them... it's too bad that after buying this product 3 months ago is already forgotten by Samsung
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What I think is that Galaxy Tab 7" is an already dead product for Samsung.
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IMO, it's too early to say this.
Samsung are supposed to be releasing a WiFi only 7" Tab in April. It remains to be seen what they will do, support wise, after that.
We should also bear in the mind that the vast, vast, majority of recent smartphones haven't had a Gingerbread update yet either (at least not an official release), so I think it is premature to be calling Samsung out on this.
Even the Nexus One has only just had its official Gingerbread update, and that was "supposed" to get it first, but the Nexus S spoilt that party!
Personally, I would never say that I wouldn't buy manufacturer XYZ's devices ever again, because that's just setting yourself up for a fall when they release something really, really unique and desirable!
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Dave
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IMO, it's too early to say this.
Samsung are supposed to be releasing a WiFi only 7" Tab in April. It remains to be seen what they will do, support wise, after that.
We should also bear in the mind that the vast, vast, majority of recent smartphones haven't had a Gingerbread update yet either (at least not an official release), so I think it is premature to be calling Samsung out on this.
Even the Nexus One has only just had its official Gingerbread update, and that was "supposed" to get it first, but the Nexus S spoilt that party!
Personally, I would never say that I wouldn't buy manufacturer XYZ's devices ever again, because that's just setting yourself up for a fall when they release something really, really unique and desirable!
Regards,
Dave
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id agree with you usually but in the case of the what i like to call "galaxy try it on the consumers and if it sells we will make a proper one"
Im going back to HTC personally soon as I get chance, their lack of silence speaks volumes, they mouth off about new products and the all singing all dancing features, but the tab has to be one of the worst supported devices ive ever owned, the I9000 has had 2 leaks now for gingerbread with the last one said to be the RC
we have had all of what 3 "fixes" this year and one of those was bodged and none where official.
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but the tab has to be one of the worst supported devices ive ever owned, the I9000 has had 2 leaks now for gingerbread with the last one said to be the RC
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Is it really any surprise that the I9000, which has sold an order of magnitude more and was released several months prior to Tab, is getting more Gingerbread attention?
I'd expect the Tab release of Gingerbread to be built on top of the I9000 build, so this is pretty much what I'd expect.
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Dave
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What I think is that Galaxy Tab 7" is an already dead product for Samsung.
So, Samsung is an already dead brand for me. I will never ever buy anything else from them... it's too bad that after buying this product 3 months ago is already forgotten by Samsung
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the original Galaxy Tab is no dead product!
Samsung will keep this on the market, as they are ATM the only bigger company which has a 7" Tablet.
And they want to fit all user groups
7" 8.9" 10.1"
so if they are not as dumb as apple they need to bring an update for the tab!
but 2.3 will be dead and, as 3.0 needs an other license from google, and samsung will imho not pay for it...
lets hope too see an update!
How do you mean another license from Google?
Android has always been available for free, and although Honeycomb sourcecode has not been publicly released(yet!!), i'm sure it's available to Samsung.
Although 2.3 is nice(running it at my Nexus One for quite some time now), it's not a big step compared to 2.2, and it's got no advantages for a tablet.
It's very possible that Samsung is working on a HoneyComb release for the Galaxy Tab.
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Although 2.3 is nice(running it at my Nexus One for quite some time now), it's not a big step compared to 2.2, and it's got no advantages for a tablet.
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I tend to agree that whilst a new OS version is always nice, this isn't as big a jump as going from say Cupcake to Eclair, or Eclair to Froyo. Sure, there are some nice features in Gingerbread, and some people will want them more than others.
As has been said before many times, if you bought a device based on what it could do *if* it receives an upgraded OS, you didn't purchase wisely. Buy for what it does today (bug fixes excepted of course!).
However, if a company does come out and say that they will be upgrading the OS to a later version, they should be true to their word.
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Dave
We'll get it tomorrow
yes i expect it, becousethe galaxy s have received tha gingerbread update and it has the same specification
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We'll get it tomorrow
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Mr. Obama has personally emailed me about it. He did state it would not come tomrrow, but the only way for us to receive 2.3 is if we vote him as world leader.
/sarcasm
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Mr. Obama has personally emailed me about it. He did state it would not come tomrrow, but the only way for us to receive 2.3 is if we vote him as world leader.
/sarcasm
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You realize that a statement like that is something that would actually come from his camp if he thought it would get him elected for another term.
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You realize that a statement like that is something that would actually come from his camp if he thought it would get him elected for another term.
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Bahaha I'm sure O has more important things on his plate than making sure we get 2.3
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How do you mean another license from Google?
Android has always been available for free, and although Honeycomb sourcecode has not been publicly released(yet!!), i'm sure it's available to Samsung.
Although 2.3 is nice(running it at my Nexus One for quite some time now), it's not a big step compared to 2.2, and it's got no advantages for a tablet.
It's very possible that Samsung is working on a HoneyComb release for the Galaxy Tab.
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Samsung still needs a license from google (think I read it on android central)
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Mr. Obama has personally emailed me about it. He did state it would not come tomrrow, but the only way for us to receive 2.3 is if we vote him as world leader.
/sarcasm
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me too...
I told him that hes a dumbass... and he should stop spamming my inbox .
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Samsung still needs a license from google (think I read it on android central)
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What google did was require a second license for 3.0 but in that license there is language that states any tablet shipped with android 2.x cant be upgraded to android 3.0 which in effect means that no company will beable to offer an upgrade.
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The Galaxy Tab does seem to be a dead product, judging by the track record of samsung. That's not stopping me from getting one, as its an awesome device (gonna replace my Win7 Tablet PC and Galaxy S).
The Galaxy S is dead too, and the old Omnia I had was also abandoned early on, even while it was still the flagship (there was no replacement yet).
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/nexus-4-battery-shot-reveals-potential-quality-issues/
This does NOT look promising on top of the already established problems with the hard-/software Not amused.
Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
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Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
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For real I haven't seen any reviews on the lock screen widgets But yet ready to crush to sweet phone My Gnexus just died last night I even tried omap flasher no dice, And no joke I snapped that ***** right in half.. Talk about build quality, UGH!! Went back to my xperia play :crying: For Now:good: So any reviews pictures from haters, Really doesn't affect my decision on getting this device...
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Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
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That article is solely about potential hardware issues. Hardware is not likely to be changed since the phone goes on sale next week.
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I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
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yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
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That article is solely about potential hardware issues. Hardware is not likely to be changed since the phone goes on sale next week.
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haha made by LG :silly::silly:
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yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
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Maybe Samsung will document something useful by then
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yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
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haha made by LG :silly::silly:
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Drool. I still can't shake thinking about this damn Nexus 4, but extremely annoyed at the negative press and issues it has not even being released it.
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i really think nexus 10 with help a lot with exynos 5 development but i really hope sammy will do some documentation and release working platform source
like galaxy s1 and nexus s
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i really think nexus 10 with help a lot with exynos 5 development but i really hope sammy will do some documentation and release working platform source
like galaxy s1 and nexus s
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Don't get your hopes up Here's some great reading about the issues CM maintainers have with Sammy https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F
He'll be updating this periodically.
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I'm not sure about that, I had high expectations concerning the GS3 and it turned out to be a huge disappointment.
(less Ram compared to the GS2, what a joke).
Until Samsung releases proper documentation Exynos devices are not an option for me anyway.
For a budget device I really don't see this as a huge issue of course they had to make some shortcuts to get such a low sell price. I'm still planning on getting the n4 on release day.
Sure is a bit concerning seeing things like this even before release, but hopefully things will be improved upon down the line with revisions and whatnot. Shame, on the outside its such a beautiful device.
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I'm not sure about that, I had high expectations concerning the GS3 and it turned out to be a huge disappointment.
(less Ram compared to the GS2, what a joke).
Until Samsung releases proper documentation Exynos devices are not an option for me anyway.
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with JB ram back to 833mb
Is that a review unit or a prerelease "With Google" version? Doesn't seem to say.
Wait for the device to come out guys. Wait for a proper teardown. Stop freaking.
AdamOutler is an awesome hacker but he is also a huge Samsung fanboy (like if it wasn't enough with the apple ones) so I take this article as a very biased opinion, I have a LG P500 since january 2011 and never had hardware issues or reception problems and of course I droped it several times.
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Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10?
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On the N4 ? That's a tablet-only feature, for now at least.
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I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
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Is it that hard to believe?
iPhone 4s: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ne-4sios-5-battery-problem-promises-fix/15997
Galaxy S III: http://www.sammobile.com/2012/08/09/modem-update-galaxy-s-iii-fix-battery-drain//
Nokia Lumia 800: http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-lumia-800-battery-issue-fixed-audio-and-camera-next
Apple recently released a patch to curb battery drain on their Macbooks too. I remember. I got the update a few months ago.
I believe the battery problems is purely software related and I expect that because android 4.2 is not finished yet and it will be finished and pushed out by the time the nexus products go up for purchase.
Not trying to be cheeky or anything, but do you have a picture of the snapped gnex? Sounds interesting.
On topic, I'm just glad the battery isn't soldered to something.
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Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop before Nexus 5 owners do And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
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Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop. And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
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I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
Sigh. Did you forget we got a dev preview(s)? Did you miss the memo about there being bugs and that that's why it's delayed? A nexus device will still always be pure android. So no, I don't care that other OEM's are pushing it out faster. If fact that's a good thing for Android. For years Google has been trying to do what you're complaining about. It's only a week or two. In fact I hope it still happens, just so I can be amused by threads such as this.
I'd imagine all future incremental releases come faster to the nexus line than oems ...so I'll just wait...plan on getting a nexus 6 anyways...and who knows how long that will take lol
I think its a good thing OEMs are pushing out Android L so quickly.... so many OEMs don't update there phones at all or if they do its 5-7 months after a new release of android. In my opinion this is great news for Android. I would rather Google sit on the Lollipop for N5 and get the bugs resolved first then release it. Even if it means a month. I mean we have had the Dev preview since June, after all this time is it going to kill anyone to wait a little longer? I think everyone needs to calm down. I am enjoying this build of Lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-lpv-dev-n5-enhanced-t2856934/page796
And it has been running excellent. So big thank you to al the devs who are working hard on these Android L roms. And when Google get official L out there we will all benefit from it, but in good time when Google feels its in tip top shape for the masses.
We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
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We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
I bought a N5 because it was a great price and I like pure Android. Is it really that big a deal that some other phone got updated a few days before the N5 did? People get way too nuts over updates. The N5 will have it soon, I promise.
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First world problems.......
I didn't buy it to be first to get updates....I bought it as a great value smartphone first and foremost, it still regardless of updates you know
I didn't buy it for the updates. I'm not upset by others releasing a bugged aosp source. It is a good thing for the ecosystem that the OEMS are releasing updates so quickly. Would you rather have update after quick update due to bugs, or one pretty solid release. No other line of devices got the official previews. The latest preview has been stable for a daily driver!
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
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You should also read more closely. The article you are getting your information clearly stated lg is trying it in Poland not the US out any other major market.
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If you want to know the reason why I bought a nexus 5? I will answer this in Nov 2015 when Android M comes out and again we wait for its release on our nexus 5s(in 4-5 weeks) while other OEM flagship phones of current age wait in doubt of the release(4-5 months). I bought the device for it's solid software support, not necessarily faster but a solid 2-3 year support official support and most probably a 5 year community support. But then again most people sell the devices 2-3 years down the line.
It's not about other devices getting OTAs faster it's about getting the better of them all. I know this had been mentioned a couple of times before but LG G3 and the Moto X got a test release, something which we received 3-4months back I believe. Google does not abandon it's nexus range device without a proper goodbye.
There are more important things in the world.
It's really rather whether any device has an update. The reason for the delay is known, who would like Lollipop may already have run long.
And then I buy a Nexus because I like Nexus and not to previously have an update maybe a few days. Envy is something really repulsive.
Don't compare 2013 device with 2014 device.
If you really want to compare, please compare LG G3 vs Nexus 6 for 2014, which one is faster to get Lollipop.
2013 devices are LG G2 vs Nexus 5. Which one is faster? :silly:
Are you kidding??!!!!You could install it from 6 month ago.
LG g3 didn't receive anything yet. Just because there was an announcement doesn't mean its released. Besides I hear the nexus 5 gets it on the 12th
I would not trade my nexus 5 for an LG g. Besides, I have been running android l for months. Sure, it's great that os like lg and Motorola are taking the available 5.0 software and porting it to their devices, this is great for everyone.... but that software they are using is no further forward than is currently available for nexus devices.... They aren't getting a finished version.
What's the point in buying a nexus? That's something only you can decide for yourself. Buy what ever takes your fancy at the time
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I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
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For me faster updates were the most important thing than came the hardware specs..
The real question is when will the g2 get the updates g3 being the latest and greatest from LG is getting the update but the older devices will not get it for some time. However the nexus 4 and 5 are not the latest still they will get the update very soon. So if you plan on getting the latest flagship devices you don't need to worry about updates that much but if you plan on keeping your device for a few years nexus is still a great proposition.
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12 of November
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/572117/20141109/nexus-5-7-10-android-0-lollipop.htm#.VGB55PmG9E8
this is fast enought
Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Because Samsung has touchwiz and has to make it perfectly compatible. Takes a while.
That's not an excuse, HTC M9 getting 6.0 tommorow and A9 getting 6.0.1, G4 already getting 6 and G3 started to get it today... Samsung is soo late only now they releasing beta 6.0 to certain GS6 devices.
Yes, it IS an excuse. It is just one that you don't like.
Samsung is updating at the speed they want. I would fully bet that they were intentionally waiting for 6.0.1, as 6.0.0 likely had some issues they wanted to see fixed.
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I hope it's true and they learnt from their mistakes, i remember a lot of GS5 users complained about lollipop more than usually, same with 4.3 that was one of the worst updates sammy ever made.
For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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That's i hope, the reason for beta testing and delays.
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
You are 100% guessing, not 100% sure... Lol
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Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
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If that would happen, that could backfire so fast specially since 6.0 was released to all other devices. heck G3 and GS5 released same year, yet G3 already getting android 6.0, idk if galaxy s5 will get it, and if it will probably Q2 2016... Samsung support is lacking and need to be changed, but since they beta testing android 6.0 now, i hope they won't use it as an excuse to "delay" it to until GS7 launches.
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
They can split the updates to two parts, the main Android 6.0 base update without updating the minor stuff like s health, themes, and just make S Pen compatible, then after short while release a package of updates android 6.0 updates, idk if it possible, but sure as hell Samsung could be faster, again if they put 6.0.1 with as little to no bugs, then i prefer it over rushed release.
why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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They are for the s6 and edge+(UK and south korea). We'll see it in due time.
They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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It's not going to happen
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It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
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I think this time a little bit different. They seem want to improve their Rom quality, do it more carefully. Years ago I realize that Sam S series always be first to update because they are flagship and almost no special features like Note series. Absolutely I agree with you about Sam Roms are very different to HTC, LG.
But as Note 4 users, I was very angry about their update: no theme, no new features, no change on S Pen function, quite bad battery life.
Anyway, Samsung as most profitable Android OEM, have to change some points, do something better about update and Rom. We pay more, they do more better!
If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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I want 5.5-5.7" phone. Nexus 6 and 6P fit need but their battery life not so good. Note 5 just enough for me fullday usage only after extreme optimized/tweaked.
Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM
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Tweetytek said:
You could always pick up the great guides on here, buy a book or two, and start a 7.0N thread including a ROM!
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what an unhelpful and useless reply, really!
of course, probably you grow the cow first if you want to have some milk, or maybe build an airplane first if you need to fly to a different city. if you find it reasonable, good for you!
however this does not give any information regading upcoming Android 7 roms for N910F, or why they are not showing up (are there any issues, etc).
lisbon2004 said:
Guys,
i've been checking XDA every several days to see if there will be any information regarding Android 7 ROMs for N910F, but there seems to be an absolute silence.
Is there anyone from the development teams that could give an update on the subject, should we expect any roms this month, for example? i'm surprised by this silence, because Galaxy Tab S, for example, already has 7.0 rom for weeks:
[ROM][7.0] Android 7 - Nougat [T700/T705/T800/T805]
There have been a lot of complaints regarding battery life on MM, so maybe android 7 will be the next great thing in Note 4 Roms?
thanks!!
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It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
robmeik said:
It says that the Android 7 Nougat ROM for the Galaxy Tab S has no telephony at present! Not a good start for a mobile phone ... however "smart" it may be!!
I suspect that is the main problem!
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it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
lisbon2004 said:
it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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Yes I have the Note 4 (SM-N910F) and the Tab S (SM-T805) and have Lollipop on both. I am sure that as the Android 7 (Nougat) ROM gets rolled out to phones as opposed to tablets there will be some Nougat ROMs appearing for our Note 4. The person who cooked the Nougat ROM for the Tab S obviously had difficulties getting the telephony to work He says:
"Issues
Graphical glitches on rotation and screen off
RIL, meaning no telephony support so far"
- that is probably why that ROM hasn't been developed further for phones!
lisbon2004 said:
it's very difficult to say. Tab S is a tablet, with slow CPU, but with amazing screen and excellent thinness/weight.
Android 6 rom actually made this tablet usable again, a perfect thing for web browsing.
many users (like me) are fine to use it just for wi-fi with Android 7 ROM.
I don't think there will be any problem with Android 7 on Note 4 Snapdragon, but it's amazing that nobody comments on this, and does not give any plans. I'm sure there will be many users willing to jump from 4.4.4 to 7.0...
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The tab s has almost the same procrssor as the note 4 exynos. However yes it isnt a processor which is good for an flagship tablet but Samsung does that with all tablets, the New Tab S2 2016 edition also only has a SD652 processor, which also cant be clasified as high end..
Ok, seems like finally there's progress:
Android 7 for T-mobile Note 4
Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
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Let's hope the recall of note 7 will give us a nougat official samsung rom!
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I logged in just to share that thought too! Since the Note 7 is dead now, I think the Note 4 has to get Nougat along with the Note 5 fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7. Upgrading Note4 to Nougat means more spending and give users reasons to stay longer on old devices, while they want you to buy a new one quicker to cover their expenses.
Upgrading Note4 would be a very noble move from Samsung, but as their previous behavior shows, noble moves are not in their habits.
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I hope too. But let's don't get overwhelmed by the hope.
From business perspective it's pointless to invest in old device support in this situation. They've lost billions on Note7.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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well, if you ignore customers and their loyalty, then it'd be pointless to invest in old device support.
if you value your customers, then it is not pointless.
because happy customers help you sell your products; unhappy customers do the opposite.
at the end of the day, there's nothing really that would prevent a healthy Android 7 ROM to be made for the Note 7.
Samsung has already made a lot of people angry by removing features like Flat screen, the removable battery, ir blaster, etc. If the battery were removable in Note 7, very possibly the recall and the media disaster wouldn't even have happened.
Let's see if they will lean, and will become customer-focused again.
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I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have. I'm not trying to say they are stupid or something, they just don't care or the OS version is not their priority.
Plus lots of old device owners are not direct Samsung customers, that's what this business success is about: if customer wants to be on the edge, (s)he should buy new. I don't know if there's a research about how many - 2-3 y.o. flagships have 2nd+ owners, but the refurbished phone market is quite big. So, part of not so must-do investment like upgrading old phones is not only going to nowhere for the phone makers, but also creates undesired competition for their new products on some markets (e.g. like in my country where operators' offers phone+contract aren't so "sweet" like in countries with bigger number of potential customers and people would think twice if they need to upgrade with brand-new or lightly used). Note4 users are just a thin slice.
And you can't blame Samsung for not taking care about old device owners - they released 6.0.1 update for N910F not so long ago, they run "buy-back" program in lots of places. But, you know, there should be something to get you interested in buying new phone.
OK, seems like we're going off topic here
I did get the same thought about my Note4 and Nougat as soon as I heard about termination of Note7, but... I'm skeptic here. It's hard time for Samsung to invest in something with doubtful possibility to return and make their new products less valuable comparing to old ones.
I've no idea what you all are thinking, but 1. There sure as Hell won't be an official Sammy Update to 7.0. Never ever.
2. 7.0 Custom roms are far away. Since no Samsung phone is on an official stable build (afaik) there's no base yet. So the only Option is AOSP. In my experience even the 6.0 Roms aren't stable enough for a daily driver. Since a Nougat port needs some base, normally the 6.0 Rom would be used as a base. It gets a bit technical from here on, but tldr is, it's not as easy as downloading the source, copying some folders around and bang, rom...
3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
jm2c
domsch1988 said:
3. As a (un)written rule, you never ask for eta's. Ever. It's no problem if you ask if there is anything out there, but as you figured already out, there's not. So asking like a child on christmas day when it's going to be there, especially that close to release of the source, is considered rude.
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your comment regarding the lack of the first official base gives some understanding regarding 7.0 status, thanks for that!
As for the last one, p.3, asking "when" and "how is it going" could be considered rude only by really childish and immature persons.
There are a lot of people here on XDA that flash roms in their spare time too (like people that develop them), and not everyone has too much of it. we would like to have at least some basic understanding about 7.0 progress, to plan migration to the new rom (which requires dedicating several consecutive days for roms flashing, data migration, and testing). Asking when, is about planning.
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true. No one here should think that they use their phones the way we do, here on XDA. 8 out of 10 users just update their devices, because they see the OTA notification appearing, but don´t even care about the differences between the old OS and the new one. If you ask them, what is KitKat and Lollipop, or root, most likely they won´t know the answers. As long as Facebook, WhatsApp, Viber, whatever works, everything´s fine. The only difference they do care about, is battery ilfe. By the way, battery life... I´m an android user since Gingerbread. I had several devices, before i bought the Note 1, and since then I´m using only Note phones, I had the Note 2, Note 3, and now for a long time, Note 4. I never ever understood why some people are so keen on having the newest OS, because according to my experience, the newest is rarely the better... I liked KitKat, especially the X-Note custom ROM´s. Lollipop was on the market for long time, i had to reflash my phone, so i thought i give it a try. After a few weeks of being on Lollipop, i ran back to KitKat, my good old X-Note. Lollipop was a huge stepback in battery life, and i haven´t experienced any really noticable advantages. About a month ago i deciced to upgrade my KitKat to Marshmallow, just out of curiousity. A huge disappointment, again. Battery life is also worse, the overhyped permission management system is a joke, and apart from the off-screen memo i haven´t found anything useful in MM. So, as before, i went back to my good old KK, i enjoy the stability, the extreme long battery life, and, honestly, i don´t even wait to Nougat.
tompika72 said:
"I'm not trying to argue, but lots of people, who buy top devices (whatever that means), usually don't care and even don't know what version of OS they have.".
According to my experience, this is true... (shortened).
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It goes even further than not careing. My own girlfriend HATES OS Updates. i told her, that for her Mate 7 there's a new Android Version out. She refuses to update because every update on every device ever (not only android, windows too) meant major hassle for her. She uses the phone as is and everything that changes anything is evil. Don't try to argue with security or such. She is just feared, that her phone won't work the same anymore. And seeing how much i flash my phone to "get it working" i can't blame her
Battery life is a topic i'm struggeling with. My inner nerd wants to get the maximum runtime out of that thing. But recently, with Doze introduced, i have some major Notification Problems. Allo doesn't notify at all or 2 days later. Whatsapp randomly delays Notifications by hours... Maybe the ever itching battery saving thing has gone to far. I mean, on a typical workday i leave at 6am and come home at 5pm with 75% Battery left. I just stopped caring. The Note 4 makes it through a day on every OS for me. And a second one if i have too. :good:
Seems like no news at all regarding 7.0 ROMs...
an absolute silence...
Several devs making AOSP/CM Roms have stated in their threads, that it's in the works. Only now some devices running stock'ish roms are getting Android 7 (OPO..) We are rocking an oldish phone with a processor/chipset that no official Android 7 phone has. Samsung has no official 7 rom either. So it's just a lot of work to get something useable.
I'm sure our devs have something bootable. But getting from there to something usable/daily driver ready is a long and bumpy road. Give them some time. We'll get it sooner or later. For sure.