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So what's the verdict?

I've read many reviews on this device and so far it seems like it's the perfect fit for me, especially since LTE isn't available in my area. Cheap, well built and uses stock Android... Fantastic. Then I come here and I'm starting to read that it might not be the awesome device I thought it was... Overheating, poor benchmarks, bad battery life... These sound like deal-breakers. So before I retire my MyTouch 3G Slide (yes, I know it's incredibly old...) and buy one of these I must ask if this really does have some major flaws that can't be fixed by a custom rom. It still seems like the bargain of the century, but if it's not going to work like an android-powered quad core phone then maybe I should reconsider.
Sorry if this has been beaten to death but I haven't seen a post that sums up all of the issues with this phone yet.

There are no problems with it, these people just like to whine.. It will be a great upgrade for you
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There have been plenty of posts that sum up the issues and answer your question
1. All reviewers were testing on pre-release builds of the software
2. Maybe all the issues get quashed by the time they release the N4 to the public. Then again, maybe not.
Since you have held out so long, I suggest you stick with it for a week or two more. But if thats something you can't do (I know I can't ), just go ahead and get one.
Given the fact that Google has oriented the Nexus more towards users than towards the devs unlike the previous versions, I doubt they will overlook any hardware issues with the phone. Software glitches, if any, will be fixed soon.

We can't see a ''verdict'' until we see the final product and ppl get their hands on it, as everything being told right now must be taken as speculation as it aint the final version of the phone...

Plus these phones being reviewed are not the final version being released on the 13th

Buy it. You won't be sorry. There's nothing else like it out there. I'm also coming from a very old phone (not as old as yours though) an Optimus V. The way I see it, ANY phone, even one with a few minor flaws, will be better than what we have.
Tapatalk² from my Optimus V

In before lock.

People in this forum don't even have the phone. This phone is going to kick ass. You think Google would choose a phone that had poor benchmarks, poor battery life for their Nexus line. All of this is coordinated and tested ahead of time.

Apparently this whole project was completed in 6 months.
Since they havent made a huge change from the physical interior and exterior of the optimus g, it really can only be better than it with the software.

Patience...
Petraman,
Wait for real reviews after a few weeks the phone is released on Nov 13, 2012. A good review takes time for the reviewer to actually "use" the phone daily and give us a first hand experience. That is what we are looking for when we read the reviews. The early reviews information you should take from them is the hardware analysis only. The software needs time test.

I think it's going to be a great device. I'm coming from an LG G2x, and believe me when I say that LG makes GREAT hardware. It was just the software which sucked. All the reviewers are biased, whether it's towards Samsung or Apple. If anything, you can just return the Nexus or get it exchanged if anything is wrong with it.

anirudh412 said:
There have been plenty of posts that sum up the issues and answer your question
1. All reviewers were testing on pre-release builds of the software
2. Maybe all the issues get quashed by the time they release the N4 to the public. Then again, maybe not.
Since you have held out so long, I suggest you stick with it for a week or two more. But if thats something you can't do (I know I can't ), just go ahead and get one.
Given the fact that Google has oriented the Nexus more towards users than towards the devs unlike the previous versions, I doubt they will overlook any hardware issues with the phone. Software glitches, if any, will be fixed soon.
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:good:what he said!

Go for it and enjoy state of the art development on XDA! Cool

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Go for it and enjoy state of the art development on XDA! Cool
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This. If anything (on the software front) could be fixed, it would be fixed by the XDA first. :good::good:

The verdict is that its not released yet.
Even from the reviews I don't see a single 1 dramatising even one of those problems as much as the people who cry on the forums (and haven't even held one).
Plus, any day of the year, only Anandtechs review is worth anything. They have always been unbiased, transparent and complete. Anand is like a robot.

What verdict? It's not released for consumers yet, order starts on Nov 13th.

Pretty sure we've got enough of these types of threads OP, feel free to continue the discussion in one of them :good:
Closed.

N7 OTA updates?

Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.

What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...

Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.

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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.

Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:

mntbighker said:
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.

Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.

I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)

I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...

Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.

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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?

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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.

mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.

Google Nexus 5 software updates vs. iPhone update speed

iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.

A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.

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A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.
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^Sums it up, it'd be a big deal if they were major updates like 7.1.x etc. but like @speedyink said they were just security patches

phositadc said:
I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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We don't always get what we want.
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phositadc said:
iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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i dont get these android vs ios threads. if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
Google does it this way because it works for them, i honestly dont see a problem with it. whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone

TheAtheistOtaku said:
Whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone.
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Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
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I think all he was trying to say was that he wished Google was a tiny tiny little bit like Apple sometimes. If this was the IPhone 5 they would be getting murdered by the media. Not necessarily unhappy with the phone or Google's services, just patiently waiting for a fix on a few crucial things.

Updates will come when they're ready. I know I don't want an update for the sake of getting a update. Too many times I've seen stuff rushed to fix something and break many other things.
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adio01 said:
Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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A software update won't magically melt the extra glue in your N5. It was already determined that speaker sound required a hardware modification. There is a fix for volume on the N5 already, I think Google is aware of this and might put it in 4.4.1.

droid_<3er said:
Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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1) I didn't say custom roms don't get the bugs iron out i've been rooting/flashing for 4-5 years now and have used some amazing roms. I said they were not for the everyday user and if you don't know what you are doing it can be a hassle.
2) A lot of people argue that the Nexus 5 is a developer phone. I didn't say it was destined for XDA I almost said the exact opposite since average users are buying it.
3) Never said IOS 7 was good/bad nor have I ever used IOS. In your comparison though, lag vs. the entire camera not functioning.
4) I know how to search im just more of a lurker... and I've used that camera app before. The problem is not the quality of the image/camera and that is what that app is aiming to fix. I actually think the N5 is able to take great pictures in most situations. The problem with the camera is that while using apps that utilize the nexus's camera it will become unusable giving you a black/green screen with noise making the camera unusable until you reboot the phone.
I know the camera issue does not affect many users who do not use apps like snap-chat and a few others (or I think using face-unlock will also trigger this) but a lot of less tech savvy have been returning the phone thinking it doesn't function properly. For tech savvy users like us we know the new camera API is coming and can wait it out.
Also, they are exclusively featuring camera on the N5 in all of the commercials I have seen.
Funny story to go with this also. My GF suggested that I need to get a new phone since snap-chat doesn't work anymore... I just sort of laughed and said no way! But just thought it was an interesting perspective.

So who are these people returning their nexus 5 because of the camera? Are they in the n5 v g2 thread?
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I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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All you are saying in the op is that Apple release sh1t software that needs fixing more than Google
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The nexus series is geared towards development end of story

I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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Shoopz said:
I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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I actually get that issue quite often. Occasionally its just a black screen and gives a camera error. Doesn't fix itself until the phones restarted. Stock / Rooted.

There are FAR more iOS 7 users than there are Android 4.4 users. When 400 million iOS 7 users have an issue—92% of all iOS users out there—a lot of people are affected. When 1 million Android 4.4 users have an issue—1% of all Android users out there—this is a very tiny portion of the Android ecosystem and Google does not feel they need to resolve issues timely. You can blame Google and the entire Android ecosystem for this.

rayiskon said:
I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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Not whining and I didn't say that i'm unhappy with the device or want to return it if that was directed towards me, just saying Google needs to fix a few things.
Advertising the Camera -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0XTJqFLIE
Camera Problems -
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1rcc1f/issue_with_camera_crashing_on_nexus_5_running/
Camera Problems Confirmed -
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=61873#c79
And like I said the issue has been confirmed most of us are just waiting on them to rollout the update.
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I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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What rom do you have flashed?

They need to get an update for the n5 quick, to fix the 'bog roll' quality speaker which somehow manages to vibrate the phone more than the actual vibrator does.

There is a 4.4.1 update rolling out shortly. No link, but easily googled.
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It should probably be mentioned that Google have decoupled several apps from the core OS that in iOS would require an OS "update".
For example, Chrome is now a separate update whereas Safari in iOS is not. If security updates to the browser are required, Google just updates Chrome in the Play store, whereas Apple would release an OS "update" which may in reality only affect the browser.
I'm not saying that is always going to be the case, but it may explain some of the timing "differences".
EDIT: Here's a good example, from the iOS 7.0.4 update:
Bug fixes and improvements, including a fix for an issue that causes FaceTime calls to fail for some users.
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The Android equivalent of a Facetime fix would likely just be a new version of Hangouts on Play.
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Roll out of Lollipop for 910U (And a few others)

Thank you Samsung for letting down the 910U. There are absolutely no excuses to take so much time to update all variants. Too many variants and inability to maintain them... Never expected releases to come as fast as on my Nexus 5, but that bad is really a shame (Other manufacturers have already updated their flagships)
With all these different models of the same phone, Samsung has managed to create an extra fragmentation level of the already fragmented Android. Amazing.
And I don't want to hear that is maybe because we'll get a newer version than 5.0.1 or an improved Touchwiz (Like was speculated as an explanation for the very slow initial rollout of Lollipop). Most likely well get finally 5.0.1 when everybody will be on 5.1
I came back to Samsung after a few years (My last one was a Tab 7.7). Definitely amazing hardware each band every time. The software side (incl speed of new releases) is still a shame.
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Have to agree on the hardware front. Amazing, sleek and sexy. For the OS part though it's definitely a let down. I wish they would just apk all of their bloat and just let us use it on any non tw OS. No hidden or private api baked into a slow ui. My sister is running a S4 and laughing because she has LP and I can't even get it. Hell it's not even announced for my version.

i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for

I wonder if they limit variations because there's not any more letter in alphabet or what?

Er. Aditya said:
i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for
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pretty crap when the F and G use the same hardware but different bootloader and modems - would have taken very little time to get a global release for the two models at the same time.

Calm Down untill the Final Release
SM-N910C user here, I feel your pain But you guys should not forget that the Lollipop releases for Note 4 are not final , are more like test builds thats why it is not availble outside of the world except Poland. In essence , more than 90% of Note 4 users didn't receive Lollipop. I have installed Lollipop and I am pretty confident that it needs some tuning and fixing before the worlwide roll out so hopefuly every use gets straight the Final build in some weeks time and not a test build like some lucky N910C-F users!
The Real let down would be in the case where the Final Worlwide release is ready for some variants and not for everyone or the others who didn't receive the final update and receive a test build like now Here there is no space for excuses

Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.

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Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
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Alcibiade said:
Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Free mobile app
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We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4

rj3005 said:
Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Its not about getting life or what, but put urself on our shoes. What would u feel if everyone's got the lollipop amd u were left alone not having it? Good or bad is another matter. Being up to date is what xda is all about. At least that is why i joined xda.

I am totally with you, i know samsung for long time, and i know that they will not release the 5.1 for the 910u version because we didn't get the 5.0.1. in fact, we will get the 5.0.1 when the C gets close to the 5.1 . i am not mad or saying this because i hate samsung, i replied to tell you again Don't give your hopes on samsung to give you something that you want. I can tell from now that we can get the 5.0.1 version in 15 days from now, but without any change of the C version and maybe more buggy than it .

Ashatar said:
We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4
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I do hope indeed...
Again the hardware on Note 4 is amazing (That's why I bought it over the Nexus 6). Hopefully Samsung will get its act together and deliver decent software (from an AOSP perspective) KINF OF on time....
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I agree i purchased the 910U over the 910G in australia and now i wished i got the C. Im sure when lollipop comes finally for the U porting C roms will become the norm and we'll keep up to date. God knows as well as us that samsung wont keep up..

I live in HK where U is the default model.
Weeks are passing... Still no sign. This is really not serious for a phone that's less than 6 months old.

Yep its a big fkn joke.

You should try being in Canada with a W8 model
The W8 model of of the note series is always the last to be updated let's just hope we get a fixed version.

Phone runs fine without Lollipop. If you read about how many are switching back from Lollipop, not in any hurry to get it myself.

Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
And why oh why do people keep contributing to what they call whiney threads?! And whining themselves about them! Nothing wrong with whining every now and again, should people on forums all be constantly happy? Is it written in the rules?
Please of please skip the thread of it upsets you so much! Ffs!

I too am upset and want to wine, getting really impatient
I have the 910U From new Zealand on Spark network...

lawtq said:
Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
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To be fair the issues encountered with the first versions of Lollipop should be put to the credit of Google. On that they screwed up massively and even the Nexus line suffers from it (I also have a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7). It's hard to blame the phone makers on this.
Nevertheless time passes by, most of flagships have been updated to Lollipop and... quite a number of Note 4 haven't. Samsung weakness on the software side is blatant (while they indeed design excellent hardware, the Note 4 and the S 6 are very good example of this)
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Android 8 for SM-G900F

Hi to all SM-G900F fans and for all developers! :laugh:
I'd like to introduce this topic to discuss about the possibility of the Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F to have the new Android 8. Knowing about some amazing improvements that were made to the new Android 8 that will arrive soon, I'd like to know the following:
[ALL FANS] - What do you think about our S5 SM-G900F having an Android 8 ROM? With a booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update, etc.? If that will be possible to the developers apply to the S5 SM-G900F, it would be great or not?
[ALL DEVELOPERS] - What do you think about the idea of creating an Android 8 ROM for a great 2014 phone? It will be possible to do that with all improvements that were claimed for the new Android 8? It will worth that huge effort?
As you can see I love this phone, no doubt about that. :laugh: But, my wish is to have my Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F running Android 8 with all those features that were claimed to have in the new Android OS. If that can be possible, I think it would be amazing for this phone! Because I think the hardware is still good to support newer software and it would be very nice to see an excellent quality/price phone like this to match new ones.
I hope my wish can became true. . .please do not let this phone R.I.P!

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Hi to all SM-G900F fans and for all developers! :laugh:
I'd like to introduce this topic to discuss about the possibility of the Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F to have the new Android 8. Knowing about some amazing improvements that were made to the new Android 8 that will arrive soon, I'd like to know the following:
[ALL FANS] - What do you think about our S5 SM-G900F having an Android 8 ROM? With a booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update, etc.? If that will be possible to the developers apply to the S5 SM-G900F, it would be great or not?
[ALL DEVELOPERS] - What do you think about the idea of creating an Android 8 ROM for a great 2014 phone? It will be possible to do that with all improvements that were claimed for the new Android 8? It will worth that huge effort?
As you can see I love this phone, no doubt about that. :laugh: But, my wish is to have my Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F running Android 8 with all those features that were claimed to have in the new Android OS. If that can be possible, I think it would be amazing for this phone! Because I think the hardware is still good to support newer software and it would be very nice to see an excellent quality/price phone like this to match new ones.
I hope my wish can became true. . .please do not let this phone R.I.P!
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"booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update" Idk if it is possible, but it will be quite hard. If android 8 will come out, we developers WILL DO OUR BEST to get the best out of the s5. Seriously, we try our best but stop saying things like this, developers do this things without wanting anything in advance from you, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT! And please don't open threads like this because it is like opening a thread and just saying "i bought a new phone and i am happy (no **** sherlock lol) "!

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"booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update" Idk if it is possible, but it will be quite hard. If android 8 will come out, we developers WILL DO OUR BEST to get the best out of the s5. Seriously, we try our best but stop saying things like this, developers do this things without wanting anything in advance from you, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT! And please don't open threads like this because it is like opening a thread and just saying "i bought a new phone and i am happy (no **** sherlock lol) "!
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Yeah, you're absolutely right and I apologize for my behavior. I was only excited about that I just decided to try to share my feelings and thoughts with the XDA Community. I love XDA Developers. It teached me so much about everything related to Android over the years. However, I must follow all the rules and have a good behavior so please feel free to remove/delete this thread.
Once again, I'm sorry for having opened this thread. Just a BIG "thank you" to all developers for the hard work they always do and for all members that share doubts and solutions for everything related to Android.
Best regards,
Lu

(please ignore this thread)
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It's alright to discuss about such things, but never push devs beyond what they can do. You simply show disrespect and it's one of the main reasons why devs give up creating something new.
Regarding Android 8 (Android O), I don't think it's going to be an easy task to port it to our device. At first, on Nougat was hard enough to make everything working (camera being one of the main highlights, since N has a completely revamped camera interface under the hood, like different process handling and stuff). I can't imagine, what O actually brings to the table and in no way it's going be a walk in the park.
And neither battery life nor camera is going to be as good as stock. Blame Samsung and Touchwiz for their closed source nature.

Even if it happens, camera will still suck. Why flash something that makes your phone worst and unstable, just to say that you have the latest android version in "phone about"

I don't know why you are so hyped about it, it has really small changes since Lollipop...

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Even if it happens, camera will still suck. Why flash something that makes your phone worst and unstable, just to say that you have the latest android version in "phone about"
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Of course not. It's about to have all the NEW features in your OLD phone (if possible, of course). I think there are several phones (like the Samsung Galaxy S5) that have plenty potencial to run newer software. Besides that, one teacher I had, one day, he told in the classroom that there's no limits when programming, it only depends on our imagination to create solutions. I'm nobody to say that his words are correct or not, but I believe if there's will and hope that things are capable to be made.
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I'd love to see Android 8 on my S5. It is true and it will be always true that the stock TW camera is the best one. It has slow-mo and 1080p60 video (I know that OnePlus camera has 720p90fps slow-mo, but that's not that great comapared to the stock.) But in my opinion, for some picture shooting, it is a great camera with the stock Lineage camera as well. (Maybe one day someone can find Samsung's driver).
Besides that, the S5 runs great with the latest 7.1.2 Android, and I believe that it will run as fast (if not better) with Android O.
Definetly hope for an upcoming information, devs: take your time, make a great rom.

I don't see anything wrong with this topic? The guy just asked if it's possible lol He didn't tell you "MAKE IT NOW!!". About stock android 8 - no. Stock android is boring, even Samsung's version of KitKat has more features than the newest stock android from Google. But some sort of port from, let's say, the Note 8 or the Galaxy S9 would be awesome in my opinion. There already are S8 ports for the KLTE which work with little bugs that will be fixed soon (SkiesROM) or ones that don't really matter that much (DreamUX ROM). Hardware is more than capable. iPhones have super low hardware and Apple updates them for 4-5 years ahead. This means that 'old' 2014 hardware like the S5's can be used perfectly fine even in 2020...with the right developers. BUT, nothing beats official Sammy firmware. Sure, you'll get the new features from android O(reo?) and the new Note8/S9 but bugs are inevitable whereas TouchWiz 6.0.1 is fine in every aspect. I'll stick to my S5 until 2019-2020 and then buy a new S10 or S11 (xd). I just hope that Samsung bring back the features from the S5 like IR blaster, fingerprint scanner on the front, hover view in the gallery and video apps, etc. FM Radio won't hurt too (still envy my S3 Mini for having it, 1%=3h radio) :|

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Why is it taking long
I'm searching for Android 8 daily waiting for any unofficial build or whatever to install and try it
Android 7 got ready only in about 1 and a half week.. That's what i remember at least..

I'm going to be a proud new owner of a Samsung Galaxy S5 Sport! Just ordered yesterday!

FanboyStudios said:
I'm going to be a proud new owner of a Samsung Galaxy S5 Sport! Just ordered yesterday!
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S5 sport??? No such thing
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Edit yes there is lmao just looks like a active and looks good In red

ttocs99 said:
S5 sport??? No such thing
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Edit yes there is lmao just looks like a active and looks good In red
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Lol It came out after the active... I got a blue one

FanboyStudios said:
Lol It came out after the active... I got a blue one
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Wouldn't mind a red one but can't getem in the UK I do t think

ttocs99 said:
Wouldn't mind a red one but can't getem in the UK I do t think
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Would you like a link to one on ebay?

FanboyStudios said:
Would you like a link to one on ebay?
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If you don't mind thanks

ttocs99 said:
If you don't mind thanks
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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/112560349301

FanboyStudios said:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/112560349301
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Why's it going that cheap

ttocs99 said:
Why's it going that cheap
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Its used. And its a few years old