I recently started a thread at the XBMC forums about this but it looks like I'm not going to get any useful answers, at least so far. So instead of being guilty of cross-posting, I will just post the link so people can read the OP and respond to it here mad: the spambot said I couldn't post any links yet so just do a search on this title and Google will give you the link in the first hit):
XBMC for Android B&N Nook HD+ installation and performance
I think I will get more useful answers here.
Basically I want to buy a Nook HD+ for the sole purpose of putting XBMC for Android on it. I want to be sure if is worth the effort before I actually buy one. I am hoping there are people here who have done this and can relate their experiences.
My main questions are:
1. Do you have to root to be able to side-load the XBMC .apk? It seems that for many devices this is no longer necessary but I am willing to do it if it is necessary or can improve performance.
2. What is viewing 720p and 1080p streaming and local content like? Is it acceptable or unbearably choppy?
3. Can many XBMC add-ons be installed or is there only a limited subset? It looks like this port is relatively new.
I have been running XBMC on my HD+ for several months. I'm currently running the alpha version (called Gotham) which is due to go into Beta in the next month or so.
Anyway, as far as I can tell, there is not a limit to how many add ons you can install or use. Although some don't seem to work with the alpha version, but that should be expected. I've noticed that 1080p content seems to buffer quite a bit while streaming, but it runs fine locally.
I don't think you have to root, but you do probably need to install the extra features package that leapinlar has in order to install from other sources - can't remember what it's called but I'm sure you'll have no problem finding it.
I've been happy with how XBMC runs on the hd+, I don't think you should have any problems with it. In fact it may even be better with streaming HD content than it used to be. I just haven't been using it for that lately. I usually download and watch from the SDcard. I guess it depends partially on what sources you use.
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bpaulien said:
I have been running XBMC on my HD+ for several months. I'm currently running the alpha version (called Gotham) which is due to go into Beta in the next month or so.
Anyway, as far as I can tell, there is not a limit to how many add ons you can install or use. Although some don't seem to work with the alpha version, but that should be expected. I've noticed that 1080p content seems to buffer quite a bit while streaming, but it runs fine locally.
I don't think you have to root, but you do probably need to install the extra features package that leapinlar has in order to install from other sources - can't remember what it's called but I'm sure you'll have no problem finding it.
I've been happy with how XBMC runs on the hd+, I don't think you should have any problems with it. In fact it may even be better with streaming HD content than it used to be. I just haven't been using it for that lately. I usually download and watch from the SDcard. I guess it depends partially on what sources you use.
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Thanks for your reply about your experiences. I didn't get any email notice of your reply or I would have answered earlier. I don't want to play files from the SD card, only streaming content. As far as the extra features package, don't you need to root before you can install it?
xbmc runs flawlessly on carbon 4.2.2 unofficial, flashed cyanogenmod 4.4.2 and lots of sync problems.
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I'm quite content with the idea of getting a Nook Color for my birthday, but I think I'd fall in love with it if it had flash capabilities.
Does it?
~CyanCrayon
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Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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jaydon34 said:
Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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One great use is flash video. >.>
Doesn't the Nook Color have ARM 7?
And comparing an iPad to a Nook Color is like comparing apples and oranges...
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I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
You can still watch flash videos through various apps like skyfire... i think
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I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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Actually I can confirm a 2.2 release.
Engadget:
"And, thankfully, there might be a much easier way coming, with Barnes & Noble reportedly telling Smartphone Mag that Android 2.2 will be officially coming to the Nook Color in January. Yes, Android 2.3 is what's happening, but this is still an exciting upgrade as it will finally also allow access to a traditional Android home screen and even enable the Android Market."
But in the same article, it says that froyo has already been hacked on...
Edit: Here's the link. http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/nook-color-getting-android-2-2-and-market-in-january-current-ha/
~CyanCrayon
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That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.
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That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.
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Yeah, you're probably right. >_<
B&N has said that 2.2 will come in 2011 at some point.
Patience young Jedi.
In Devs we trust...they will get it done....
Relatively speaking the development on the NC has been quite active given the low user base, and short amount of time it has been on the scene.
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I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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getting 2.2 doesn't necessarily mean nook will support flash. I have a feeling it won't be fully supported and may be like the archos with choppy flash playback.
but will be interesting to see what happens.
i think people need to realize that the device is meant to be an ereader and I don't think B&N is going to spend money to make the device into a tablet.
Well flash has already been proven to work based on the 2.2 build here.
While it may not be completely smooth, it will be useful for sure.
My netbook doesn't even run flash video completely smooth either but its perfectly acceptable.
For those who haven't received the update yet!
Testing on various sties, south park, cnn, speedtest and yahoo's flash stock chart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evj9ryPB_Z8
Playing a bit on my GF's farmville account:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec4LLbGl4mc
Overall, the experience is pretty good! It's not the same experience that you'd get on a Core i5 laptop, but more like the experience you'd get an Atom machine.
Next step is to read up on overclocking this to 1.5Ghz, anyone done that yet?
That should put us closer to a full desktop internet experience!
No doubt when these mobile cpu's hit 1.5-2.0ghz and Android is at ver 3.2+, we won't have to give up anything to experience the internet on a tablet.
SIDENOTE: So, my 12yr old cousin has an iPad and when we were playing with it, he would always say, "oh, that site doesn't work, I have to wait for them to make an app"-- so, wait...a lot of these apps are just reproductions of these websites but in app form.
Well, that's probably a significant reason why the iPad will always have more apps. It's because you can't access the site in any other way. So, if you take that into consideration, by having Flash Player 10.2 now, we have access to all these websites that DON'T NEED an app version in order to experience their content. So, how many "apps" does that open up for us?
I would say a lot more than 65,000! Okay, I looked it up. We now have access to over 1.4 million apps!
Where's the flash 10.2 apk?????? Please share.
Nevermind, got it.
Thanks guys got it!
Link is here:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/motorola-xoom-forum/6538-flash-your-xoom.html
Sorry admins, I may have posted this in the wrong forum, maybe you could please move it to general? It was late last night when I found out my Xoom updated and wanted to make this demo right away.
BTW, to get the most out of this, you'll probably want to change your user agent to Desktop
http://blogs.computerworld.com/17882/android_honeycomb_browser_user_agent
Works pretty well! Used last.fm streaming with no problems. Gotta try some flash games...
Im kinda curious... how do you guys use your Nook?
Did you ditch retail os for cm? Do you use both?
I did, running on nothing but cm.
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CM only, waiting for CM9
I emmc dual boot stock and CM7. Only reason I still have stock at all is for the kids interactive books.
CM only. Been running ICS since the source were first pushed/I learned to compile.
Dual booting BN 1.4.1 on eMMC for subscriptions and Conde Nast pubs, with CM (Mirage) on SD. Probably going back to CM on eMMC soon.
After many variations on my emmc and sd card, I finally settled for MN 1.3 which allows full BN software access (especially "read in store" which I use to offset no ebook discounts or coupons) and relatively unimpeded Market access on the "Zeam" side.
I recently updated it with 5.12.20 which (though designed for 1.4.1) installed with no problems and has not caused any issues.
One major plus with it is that I can now use HBO Go! The image is not quite as good as Netflix but is certainly acceptable.
Use very few apps on the BN side with almost all app usage on the "Zeam" side.
Very pleased with the current setup.
Now, if I could just figure out how to stretch the screen to 8.9 inches all would be right with the world!
Having never set up MN, how do you switch from Zeam to stock when in use?
Comes up as option (which side do you want to use type of thing) when you finish booting or whenever you press the "N" button.
From 12/2010 until around 8/2011 I used my NC as my tablet, but also read quite a bit on it, using CM7 most of that time. I got a Dell Streak 7 in August, and mostly the NC got dusty in the meanwhile.
But now I've been playing with it again quite a bit with ICS on it.
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From 12/2010 until around 8/2011 I used my NC as my tablet, but also read quite a bit on it, using CM7 most of that time. I got a Dell Streak 7 in August, and mostly the NC got dusty in the meanwhile.
But now I've been playing with it again quite a bit with ICS on it.
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Been using the ICS Kang from fattire and dalingrin?
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I got my nook yesterday and it's already rid of stock.
I couldn't find any use for it, JUST books. And I can download an Android e-reader so why bother? I love mine on CM, I'm waiting on a second memory stick to convert my mom's as well. She's made because mine is hacked and has so many more functions and hers isn't
CM only on mine. I'm pretty sure most of the other people here are using CM as well.
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I purchased a refurbished NC a month ago for $119 (?) and on first boot installed CM7 on emmc.
Use it primarily as a reader with Kindle, Zinio, news via browser and a weekly publication i get in PDF format.
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Boy, I use my nook for everything. I have run every rom out there. Currently running MIUI. Read news, Facebook, books, play games, listen/watch podcasts, watch Netflix and TV.com, use it as a personal planner - email, calendar and task list, use educational apps for my kids and grandkids, surf pinterest, and on and on. I have so many apps that i had to expand my data image to 2 GB. My whole life is on my nook! I'm a 53 year old grandma and feel pretty proud that at my age I've hacked nooks for myself and 4 others. They are as hooked on their nooks as I am.
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I use mines as an oversized remote controlled controlling my xbmc setup =D
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Miui rom with Zeam launcher from SD, but I will install CM or Miui to emmc since we can't use the B&N store in Europe.
My family members are using the Nook as an ereader, checking mail and for Facebook. I use it also as my portfolio for clients showing still photographs and 360° panorama images.
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Been using the ICS Kang from fattire and dalingrin?
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I've been using the ICS Cyanogen repository and building it per their instructions, yes.
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I've been using the ICS Cyanogen repository and building it per their instructions, yes.
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So I have been away from the forums for a few months (maybe more, heh). Where can I find more info on this build?
I've had my Nook for a year, and although it's been rooted, I only used it as an ereader. I just installed CM7 on it today, and I still plan to use only reader apps on the device. I like the freedom of being able to customize the device any way I want. CM7 is great, but my NC will still be used mainly as a reader.
I am dual-booting Nook 1.4.1 and CM7, but I spend most of my time on CM7
Hey guys,
I just ordered my Touchpad today, should be here by the end of the week. It is used and the previous owner had ICS running on it I believe. My question is, what would you guys suggest I do once I receive it? Upgrade to JB? Any certain mods or kernels that everyone uses now? Just trying to familiarize myself with the Touchpad forums so I can get right on what I need to do once it comes in.
Thanks
Roms for touchpad
aujbman said:
Hey guys,
I just ordered my Touchpad today, should be here by the end of the week. It is used and the previous owner had ICS running on it I believe. My question is, what would you guys suggest I do once I receive it? Upgrade to JB? Any certain mods or kernels that everyone uses now? Just trying to familiarize myself with the Touchpad forums so I can get right on what I need to do once it comes in.
Thanks
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There are multiple roms for hp touchpad users and each have there own weaknesses and strengths
The best way to familiarize yourself with rom types is to download the free app goomanager in the play store.
It will help you get the roms
In my perspective i beleive that the rom in the attachments is the best
It has no visible bugs and works smoothly on Hp touchpad
Mic works
Camera works- 1.3M
Cm 10 is new and beta so i would not recommend it
Try the one that is recommended in text file
Happy Flashing
[email protected] said:
There are multiple roms for hp touchpad users and each have there own weaknesses and strengths
The best way to familiarize yourself with rom types is to download the free app goomanager in the play store.
It will help you get the roms
In my perspective i beleive that the rom in the attachments is the best
It has no visible bugs and works smoothly on Hp touchpad
Mic works
Camera works- 1.3M
Cm 10 is new and beta so i would not recommend it
Try the one that is recommended in text file
Happy Flashing
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Thanks a lot for the rom suggestion. Any other suggestions (from you or anyone else) regarding kernels, overclocking, any particular apps that run really well on these tablets or any apps that are great for tablets that aren't so much for phones...? If it helps, I want to use it mainly for work (attorney), like viewing and editing documents, etc.
aujbman said:
... If it helps, I want to use it mainly for work (attorney), like viewing and editing documents, etc.
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Westlaw (Next, not classic) has a meh app (basically a glorified mobile web app), but text is much easier to read on a bigger screen. LexisNexis doesn't have one as far as I know. Google Drive is good for documents.
I don't agree that CM10 is not ready as a daily driver. I use it as one and have since the latest preview came out. That's something you will probably need to try for yourself.
bananagranola said:
Westlaw (Next, not classic) has a meh app (basically a glorified mobile web app), but text is much easier to read on a bigger screen. LexisNexis doesn't have one as far as I know. Google Drive is good for documents.
I don't agree that CM10 is not ready as a daily driver. I use it as one and have since the latest preview came out. That's something you will probably need to try for yourself.
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Thanks. I have both (Westlaw and Google Drive) on my phone and will definitely be carrying them over. How about running Ubuntu? Any pros/cons when using for my purposes??
aujbman said:
Thanks. I have both (Westlaw and Google Drive) on my phone and will definitely be carrying them over. How about running Ubuntu? Any pros/cons when using for my purposes??
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I've never run Ubuntu on any hardware (Arch) and I use only CM10 on my TP, so I can't really speak to that. Maybe someone else here who is running Ubuntu on the TP can help you out. I would imagine that the software repositories in Ubuntu could be helpful, like LibreOffice or a LaTeX editor, but I'm not sure how that would work out on a touchscreen.
Apps
aujbman said:
Thanks a lot for the rom suggestion. Any other suggestions (from you or anyone else) regarding kernels, overclocking, any particular apps that run really well on these tablets or any apps that are great for tablets that aren't so much for phones...? If it helps, I want to use it mainly for work (attorney), like viewing and editing documents, etc.
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over clock with rom manager
95% of the apps in play will be compatibe with hp touchpad on this rom
the only app that i couldn't install is vice city
Office suite is a great app that can edit documents, powerpoints, excell sheets ext.
"There's an app for that!"
Ubuntu is too slow to use as a daily driver unfortunately.
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I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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The short answer is: Yes, it's worth it. The difference between stock 2.1 and either Cyanogenmod 10.1 or Carbon is like night and day. Just being able to configure the homescreens the way you want is worth the small effort to install a new recovery and ROM on the HD+. You get a whole range of options of how you interact with your tablet (PIE, HALO, ribbons, etc.).
I've installed both CM10.1 and Carbon and prefer Carbon, but that's more of a personal thing. One nice thing is that my Galaxy Nexus is on Carbon, so I have just one interface for both of my mobile devices.
If you are not sure if you want to change the Nook, download the SDCard only version of CM10.1 it works great and will not touch your installed system.
jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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Oh GOD yes!!! I just did it to my Plus and L♥VE it. I used this [NookHD+] CM10.1 native emmc install updated 07/06 but [NOOK HD/HD+] Installing CyanogenMod 10.1 for Dummies is also easy to follow.
It makes the device so much easier to use. Its like my Galaxy Note 2 but bigger and I can now install the tablet app versions of the apps I have like SketchBook Pro. Win,win. :victory: The only two apps I lost were the Nook and Starbucks. Since my main reading app is Moon+ Reader Pro I didn't care and only sideloaded the Nook app to see if I could. I pay for my coffee with the Starbucks app on my phone so I don't need it on the Plus.
Just read through everything a few times until you're comfortable. It takes about 30 minutes or less.
I actually installed it twice because I wasn't feeling well the first time and was frustrated with the stock, it took wayyyyy to long. So the next day I reverted back to stock and did it again. Just to be sure (you know friends are going to ask me to root theirs). Honestly, easy peasy.
Once you do it you will wonder why you waited so long.
Now if I can get them to add the screen navigation buttons like I have on my Note 2, to get from screen to screen without swiping, I would be really happy. (hint, hint)
It took me two days before I setup the hybrid version. After a week or so I installed Carbon. It's great. My daughter left her's stock. I have no desire to return. Do the SD boot and check it out.
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jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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If you ask me CM 10.1 makes the Nook HD worth having, It runs as well, there are a few minor bugs in the scheme of things with none a show stopper, battery life is good, performance is good, movies music all play well, the Nook App still works plus you get the full tablet experience and customization. I have no plans to ever return to stock, unless a warranty situation arrives. I am running CM 10.1 in emmc, I never even bothered with running it on an SD card first. I had my nook less than a day before I put CM 10.1 on it.
jfenton57 said:
I don't mean to sound uninformed, but I see conflicting reports over whether it's truly worth the performance gains relative to some issues with things such as static wallpapers, video, etc.
Can anyone chime in based on their own experiences?
Thanks in advance!
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For myself, the answer is definitely a yes. It has much more functionalities after flashing to cm10.1. However, if you are only interested in reading book, web-browsing and sending emails. It may not be a bad idea to keep the stock rom as it's more stable and power efficient.
i was quite hesitant to do the cyangen mod because i had no experience with android devices. i started with sd card and then took the leap to native install.
benefits:
all google play apps
automatic backup of all to google
quick updating to new verions without losing any data
you can still download the nook app if you want
in short - it's great. don't bother with the dual boot solution.
especially now since the hd+ is being phased out by b&n - a versatile android os on top of good hardware is the way to go.
It is definitely worth it. I had stock os with "app from outside source enabled" mod on it for a while to test drive it. I had alot of my apps from Amazon store so I wanted to make sure everything was ok. Since this solution was great, it still felt a little bit limited so I said to myself, why not just go all the way since I was keeping it.
I did it and never looked back.
For those who've mentioned Carbon, is it available for the HD as well?
I've got the CM10.1 hummingbird ROM running off sdcard on my HD; I was going to install it to internal today but if Carbon is available for HD I'll test it out first.
MonaLisaOverdrive said:
For those who've mentioned Carbon, is it available for the HD as well?
I've got the CM10.1 hummingbird ROM running off sdcard on my HD; I was going to install it to internal today but if Carbon is available for HD I'll test it out first.
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If you look in the development forum you will see carbon is available for both HD and HD+ on emmc.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Well, the thing is that everybody that repliesyhere will tell you it's worth it. Most stock users don't really read this
I have tried both and got back to stock as it was good enough for what I do with the hd+. I just added the nova launcher so it feels like any other tablet and it has all the options I need.
I'm not saying that cm or cb afe bad or anything but I'm happy with my stock+nova launcher
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leapinlar said:
If you look in the development forum you will see carbon is available for both HD and HD+ on emmc.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Yeah...I found v8 of the ROM after the two+ hour search/parse forums yesterday. Basically had enough time to install it and do some basic configuration before I collapsed, so I forgot to come back and delete this post .
On the plus side, sleep battery life is excellent! Unplugged the Nook immediately after installing the ROM and syncing my main Google account. It dropped 6% while I was configuring some apps and settings, but did not drop at all while in sleep mode overnight.
Now time to start researching, then testing and building . Would anyone be interested in a working Scheme interpreter or nano editor?
I would love to see nano
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testlab said:
Well, the thing is that everybody that repliesyhere will tell you it's worth it. Most stock users don't really read this
I have tried both and got back to stock as it was good enough for what I do with the hd+. I just added the nova launcher so it feels like any other tablet and it has all the options I need.
I'm not saying that cm or cb afe bad or anything but I'm happy with my stock+nova launcher
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I was a stock user with Nova for a week and found it too limited. I guess it depends what you want to do with it.
I sometimes run Stock from an SD card on my HD+. When running stock, you can access all your apps without another launcher. From the Apps screen simultaneously touch "Apps" and hold down Vol down.
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