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Hey all,
First off I want to say that I've been using htc products since the original orange SPV and whenever I have needed anything this site has always been here for me. Fantastic work, please don't stop - ever. You're a true credit to the Windows Mobile community.
If it's not too much trouble I have some questions about the Keiser that I and i'm sure one of you will know exactly what the problem is.
Choppy music
Recently i've been finding that when playing music to a bluetooth (sony dr-bt22) or cabled headset (using converter) the music will occasionally jump quite a lot. Now it doesn't do this all the time, but I would have thought that when this happens it'd be down to some sort of bottleneck with resources. I've looked at the great taskmgr tool and can't see anything major. There's about 50% of the ram and processing power free and for just playing music I wouldn't have thought this would have drained much. So my thought was maybe it's to do with storage bandwidth, but I'm unable to find out. Can anyone recommend me a tool or a fix for this issue? Is it common?
Wifi
I barely use wifi cause it seems to get insanely hot and use alot of battery. It seems a bit of a waste to me to have a great feature like wifi disable on a device like this. I only have the o2 gprs bolt on and it doesn't connect at great speeds. I'd love to be able to automatically hop onto trusted wifi networks as I roam about particularly as openzone is everywhere these days.
Is the insane heat it's generating a sign that this should not be sat in my pocket all day or is it perfectly safe? I'm guessing this is why it's sapping all the power with all the energy wasted on heat but can't this be avoided? I'm not much of an expert on how wifi works or the safety of having it so close to you all the time.
GPRS performance
I was pretty fed up of the bills I was getting on contract with this phone so I'm now using the o2 png and using the o2 £7 internet bolton. However, I REALLY hate internet explorer! It is extremely fiddly on the move and I can't drag pages around with my finger or so it seems. Can anyone recommend me a really smart browser that is finger orientated? I also seem to be getting insanely poor performance with GPRS/3G, pages are taking a insane amount of time to load sometimes so i'm figuring i'm mostly on GPRS. How is 3g coverage these days and what speed should I be expecting? Or is this all down to the strength of the battery on the phone?
Finger Based Alternatives
I loved some of the ideas in PointUI and would love any recommendations on finger apps - especially for reading mail and controlling windows media player and most of all that annoying stock Contacts window, it can be a pain dragging a pen out or switching to the keyboard just to make a simple call.
Bluetooth Disconnection
Whilst packed into a train on my way to work one day my bluetooth headset power ran out and disconnected from my phone. I happened to be playing music and 100% volume and you can imagine what happened next. Is there a way for Windows Media Player to pause on bluetooth disconnection? It's extremely embarassing!
Thanks in advance for those that reply. I really love this phone and would love to get the most out of it.
Cheers
Mike
Lots of questions -
You do not state what ROM you are on/using - but I had many of the issues with BT and WIFI and music that you state you are having. I upgraded to the ROM in my signature and the BT and WIFI problems went away.
I use Opera now and like it better - don't set your expectations on internet on a 2 by 3 inch screen too high. When your finger takes up 7 percent of the ENTIRE screen it is going to be difficult to point accurately easily. The pointer however works a treat.
Re: BT disconnection - I was at the BYM and listening to music and it happened to me - you apologize and stop the music ASAP. Now - in church while the minister is speaking is a totally 'nother story...
Bill
Hi Whk,
I tried out duttys wm61 rom which I enjoyed the most but seemed to have the largest performance issues on. Before that it was the stock o2 xda build.
Thanks for the suggestion with opera, i'll give it a go.
Cheers!
Mike
I have a Sprint HTC One M7 which is S-Off and WAS rooted/on a custom rom. Why emphasize WAS? Because recently I've developed a strange issue. Any/ALL stock Sense based rom refuses to play stream videos, YouTube videos or any other videos in general. I have searched the issue up online and not one matching case on XDA. Other sources solutions are ridiculous. The funny thing is that videos play 100% fine on any AOSP based rom. This device is not currently connected to Sprint at all, only WiFi, same issue on any WiFi network I try. Oh, back to the emphasis on WAS, I have tried to factory reset, wipe internal storage, and finally, flashed an RUU and took OTA updates up to official Sense 6 and still no luck.
I have read some complications due to Google Movies app but I don't use or touch that app at all, regardless, how is it possible that that app is to interfere specifically with STREAM videos out of all videos sources? And how come it gives no issues on non-Sense based roms?
Any reasonable suggestions/solutions will gladly be THANKED.
SOLVED: Weird, I updated all Google Play apps and it seems to be working. Or it mayjust have been the Youtube online mobile site causing problems instead. I did indeed experience problems with video streaming on websites other than YouTube on other Sense roms, but in the case of returning to stock, it seems to have been a simpler issue
I was wrong, started happening again randomly with all videos again...this is hopeless.
Crossvxm said:
I have a Sprint HTC One M7 which is S-Off and WAS rooted/on a custom rom. Why emphasize WAS? Because recently I've developed a strange issue. Any/ALL stock Sense based rom refuses to play stream videos, YouTube videos or any other videos in general. I have searched the issue up online and not one matching case on XDA. Other sources solutions are ridiculous. The funny thing is that videos play 100% fine on any AOSP based rom. This device is not currently connected to Sprint at all, only WiFi, same issue on any WiFi network I try. Oh, back to the emphasis on WAS, I have tried to factory reset, wipe internal storage, and finally, flashed an RUU and took OTA updates up to official Sense 6 and still no luck.
I have read some complications due to Google Movies app but I don't use or touch that app at all, regardless, how is it possible that that app is to interfere specifically with STREAM videos out of all videos sources? And how come it gives no issues on non-Sense based roms?
Any reasonable suggestions/solutions will gladly be THANKED.
SOLVED: Weird, I updated all Google Play apps and it seems to be working. Or it mayjust have been the Youtube online mobile site causing problems instead. I did indeed experience problems with video streaming on websites other than YouTube on other Sense roms, but in the case of returning to stock, it seems to have been a simpler issue
I was wrong, started happening again randomly with all videos again...this is hopeless.
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This is really weird.. this is the second time I've heard of this problem. Hasn't happened to me yet though.
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This is really weird.. this is the second time I've heard of this problem. Hasn't happened to me yet though.
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Yeah its annoyingly random. I had to jump back to a custom aosp-based rom in the meanwhile. It was working again then it just stopped. I wanted to stick to a Sense based rom as the battery life is very promising. For now i have chosen Beanstalk for its stability/battery life as my temporary choice. I just wish I knew what causes it. Doesnt sound like any Androud virus I've ever heard of, and I've never actually heard of an android virus except something about rootkits.
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Yeah its annoyingly random. I had to jump back to a custom aosp-based rom in the meanwhile. It was working again then it just stopped. I wanted to stick to a Sense based rom as the battery life is very promising. For now i have chosen Beanstalk for its stability/battery life as my temporary choice. I just wish I knew what causes it. Doesnt sound like any Androud virus I've ever heard of, and I've never actually heard of an android virus except something about rootkits.
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My theory is that there's something wrong with the libs on a Sense ROM, that makes it incompatible with the newer versions of YouTube. Might be wrong though, since I'm not a developer. Also, since it happens randomly >.>.
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My theory is that there's something wrong with the libs on a Sense ROM, that makes it incompatible with the newer versions of YouTube. Might be wrong though, since I'm not a developer. Also, since it happens randomly >.>.
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Its not just YouTube its actually...everything. Netflix, MTV app, YouTube, both stock web browser and Chrome when streaming videos, the list goes on. I didnt get to test what happens with videos played from the internal storage though...
Has anyone had any issues with tethering performance? The tethering works for me, but in my car I have a 2012 Nexus 7 mounted in the dash, and while commuting each day I play music and videos from Youtube. My last 4 phones, S3, Note 2, Moto X (2013), and One M8, have all worked as a hotspot just fine for the tablet, but I noticed with my Nexus 6, videos will buffer for 5-10 seconds every 5-10 seconds making them unwatchable.
Speed tests were also slow for the in-dash N7 (1-2 mbps), so I tried with my M8 tethered to the N6, and speed test results were better but it still cannot play video steadily. I have two N6's, and the one I was using was rooted and unencrypted, so I considered that maybe it was something to do with the unencrypted kernel, perhaps a bad driver, so I tested with my other N6 which is only rooted and it seemed to work better. I was able to stream video on every device except the N7, however it did perform better on speed tests when tethered to the encrypted kernel N6. The only device that I can get to stream Youtube when tethered to the decrypted N6 is the other N6.
TL, DR: My testing so far is kind of inconclusive, but I basically just wanted to see if anyone else was noticing anything similar and if you had any ideas. This is really a big deal to me, possibly a showstopper for me if I can't figure something out.
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Has anyone had any issues with tethering performance? The tethering works for me, but in my car I have a 2012 Nexus 7 mounted in the dash, and while commuting each day I play music and videos from Youtube. My last 4 phones, S3, Note 2, Moto X (2013), and One M8, have all worked as a hotspot just fine for the tablet, but I noticed with my Nexus 6, videos will buffer for 5-10 seconds every 5-10 seconds making them unwatchable.
Speed tests were also slow for the in-dash N7 (1-2 mbps), so I tried with my M8 tethered to the N6, and speed test results were better but it still cannot play video steadily. I have two N6's, and the one I was using was rooted and unencrypted, so I considered that maybe it was something to do with the unencrypted kernel, perhaps a bad driver, so I tested with my other N6 which is only rooted and it seemed to work better. I was able to stream video on every device except the N7, however it did perform better on speed tests when tethered to the encrypted kernel N6. The only device that I can get to stream Youtube when tethered to the decrypted N6 is the other N6.
TL, DR: My testing so far is kind of inconclusive, but I basically just wanted to see if anyone else was noticing anything similar and if you had any ideas. This is really a big deal to me, possibly a showstopper for me if I can't figure something out.
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What is your license number? If you are watching videos while driving, I don't to be anywhere near you.
Yup...
I'm seeing insanely slow teathering speeds as well. On an LTE connection with my phone, data on the Nexus 6 is running real speedy like speedtest shows 54Mbps down, 20 up) but the connection on my Nexus 9 tethered to it is dragging butt at 3.22Mbps down and 3.39 up.
Anyone else got a horror story? I'm thinking there's some built in limiting going on here, which I like not at all. Bought my Nexus 6 from T-Mobile. Shouldn't make any difference with a Nexus device, but just in case something's changed, that may be important.
I did some more testing, and figured out that it seems to be related to the bluetooth being on, causing interference or something. Any device that I tether to my N6 seems to crawl if that device has its bluetooth turned on. This is apparently a known issue for the N7, but I have never encountered it before at all.
USB Tethering is fine w/bluetooth on
USB Tethering is fine w/bluetooth on. However, my wifi tehtering is only 0-1 mbps download with bt on.
Odd issue with my Droid Turbo. Google services and certain apps, including Reddit Sync, facebook and youtube, all lag/hang over wifi. Over LTE there is no lag.
I have a 6th gen (newest) Airport Extreme with firmware 7.7.3 (latest) and notice the same slow, laggy performance on the 2.4ghz and 5ghz network. Passowrd is a WPA2 Personal (AES).
I've seen reports so far on a lot of newer android devices (4.4.4 and lolipop) with slow wifi performance, not just the turbo. Curious if any of the other owners here have laggy wifi? Sometimes it will start to load and hang, hit refresh and it'll load 50% of the way, refresh it again and it will finally load.
I've tried a factory reset, clearing problematic apps cache, uninstalling and re-installing problematic apps, resetting router/modem, changed my phones wifi profile dhcp to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4, no change in the wireless performance.
Only thing I haven't tried is a new wireless channel on my router. But since both 2.4ghz and 5ghz display the same problem, I ruled that out.
Funny thing is a speedtest over wifi gives me my full 100 down. Once it loads it's fast, just takes 20-30 seconds of lag before loading.
Thanks all!
I started a thread on reddit about it. Other Droid Turbo owners are experiencing the same exact issues. Posting a link for reference.
http://www.reddit.com/r/droidturbo/comments/2wdb7c/slow_wifi_lag_with_google_services_and_certain/
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Odd issue with my Droid Turbo. Google services and certain apps, including Reddit Sync, facebook and youtube, all lag/hang over wifi. Over LTE there is no lag.
I have a 6th gen (newest) Airport Extreme with firmware 7.7.3 (latest) and notice the same slow, laggy performance on the 2.4ghz and 5ghz network. Passowrd is a WPA2 Personal (AES).
I've seen reports so far on a lot of newer android devices (4.4.4 and lolipop) with slow wifi performance, not just the turbo. Curious if any of the other owners here have laggy wifi? Sometimes it will start to load and hang, hit refresh and it'll load 50% of the way, refresh it again and it will finally load.
I've tried a factory reset, clearing problematic apps cache, uninstalling and re-installing problematic apps, resetting router/modem, changed my phones wifi profile dhcp to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4, no change in the wireless performance.
Only thing I haven't tried is a new wireless channel on my router. But since both 2.4ghz and 5ghz display the same problem, I ruled that out.
Funny thing is a speedtest over wifi gives me my full 100 down. Once it loads it's fast, just takes 20-30 seconds of lag before loading.
Thanks all!
I started a thread on reddit about it. Other Droid Turbo owners are experiencing the same exact issues. Posting a link for reference.
http://www.reddit.com/r/droidturbo/comments/2wdb7c/slow_wifi_lag_with_google_services_and_certain/
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I've noticed the same thing. I've tried it from a netgear R8000 and a Asus rt-ac3200. Same exact thing. I notice it with chrome and google+ alot. Don't have a fix though
civiksi said:
I've noticed the same thing. I've tried it from a netgear R8000 and a Asus rt-ac3200. Same exact thing. I notice it with chrome and google+ alot. Don't have a fix though
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Thanks for the reply. I was waiting to see if anyone else experienced these problems before I posted back.
At least for me, this slow and lag filled wifi experience is ruining the droid turbo. Fingers crossed issues are resolved with lolipop
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Thanks for the reply. I was waiting to see if anyone else experienced these problems before I posted back.
At least for me, this slow and lag filled wifi experience is ruining the droid turbo. Fingers crossed issues are resolved with lolipop
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I chatted with moto last night about the laggy and poor ranged wifi and a couple other issues. I have a screen flicker when using google messenger and capacitive buttons stop working at times. They had me factory reset last night (which I really didn't want to do). They said if it doesn't help they will send me a new device.
I've had a weird half-load the page, stall, then finish loading thing going on for awhile (droid turbo).
Chrome, Firefox, Dolphin, all behave the same. Speed tests are fine, I've had zero wifi
connectivity problems other than the antenna is weak on these phones, IM/SMS works fine,
I seem to get the stalls in youtube but not netflix that I can tell but that's some pretty
iffy observation. The page loading behavior is steady.
I think that it loads fine on LTE, I can click wifi OFF when a page is stalled and it loads.
I can follow the same link and open in a different browser and it'll load right up if I leave it on LTE.
Something is up, I can't tell what but it's been there awhile now. It's really, really, really annoying.
Factory reset didn't fix it, and it did it with no apps installed.
If L don't pop up soon and fix this, bye bye Turbo, will miss your battery..
I'm getting a replacement device for the screen flicker. Let you know if it helps any of the page loading problems but I doubt it.
civiksi said:
I'm getting a replacement device for the screen flicker. Let you know if it helps any of the page loading problems but I doubt it.
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Please do, I'd love an update once you get the new turbo!
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Please do, I'd love an update once you get the new turbo!
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I'm not holding my breath but I bought this the day it came out. Unless the early ones had a problem I expect to see no difference. The lack of replies here either means no one has the problem or just lack of commenting.
I have the slow loading also. I did the factory reset but it seems as I put more apps on it's getting slow again and stalls at times. would a new device fix this?
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Please do, I'd love an update once you get the new turbo!
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I got a new one today but didn't have a lot of time to play with it. It came late due to the snow then I had to go snow blow. Google+ is definitely way better but Chrome pages still stall during loading. I'll update when I have more time to play with it. Any apps you want me to compare?
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I got a new one today but didn't have a lot of time to play with it. It came late due to the snow then I had to go snow blow. Google+ is definitely way better but Chrome pages still stall during loading. I'll update when I have more time to play with it. Any apps you want me to compare?
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Hey, glad you got the replacement! The play store always stalls, along with reddit sync. If you could test either of those, that's be great
Thanks much man!
jhmn7 said:
Hey, glad you got the replacement! The play store always stalls, along with reddit sync. If you could test either of those, that's be great
Thanks much man!
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After really playing with it I don't think its any better especially on Chrome. Google+ is the only thing that seems improved. I have tried it on all of the newest ac3200 routers as well.
On the plus side my battery life has been awesome. But still the wifi sucks. My old device had a build date of 9/28. The new one is 11/8.
I still kinda think there is a router chipset that the Turbo doesn't like. I have this problem at work, despite it being a 100/100 connection. At home on 50/5, its just fine, be it 5ghz or 2.4.
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On the plus side my battery life has been awesome. But still the wifi sucks. My old device had a build date of 9/28. The new one is 11/8.
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This is sad, I will be sending mine back and just wait for the m9 plus. I didn't realize how much I used wifi until i starting having wifi issues.
Thanks for the update
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This is sad, I will be sending mine back and just wait for the m9 plus. I didn't realize how much I used wifi until i starting having wifi issues.
Thanks for the update
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I feel the same way, but am beyond the return period. I started a broader search and it seems like the Moto X has similar wifi issues. Maybe it's more of a Motorola issue.
I'm using a 6th gen airport extreme, how about you?
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I feel the same way, but am beyond the return period. I started a broader search and it seems like the Moto X has similar wifi issues. Maybe it's more of a Motorola issue.
I'm using a 6th gen airport extreme, how about you?
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I started off with a Netgear D6230 , Then I bought a ASUS RT-AC87U and saw no difference so I returned that and kept my D6230 . I had no problem buying a new router but it was only 6 months old and made no sense. My ipads ran fine on both routers along with two xbox's, GS4, GS3, Samsung TV Roku. BTW I ordered a Nexus 6 , I will miss the battery life.
Same issues here. Hope to get some traction!
Here 's the thread on the Motorola forum about the turbo app data lag over wifi.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/06a2f3c5ca
Thought I'd pass it along.
I have a netgear r7000 and r8000. I've noticed if upnp, usb features are enabled, or dhcp is used, these erroneous issues tend to occur. Since disabling, i haven't had any of these issues. Also comcast turned up ipv6, which was also an issue...disabled in the routers and in my switch, and issues disappeared. Turbo wifi works excellenet
I've got a Tmobile Note 4 running Lollipop (updated OTA yesterday). I use a Samsung Wireless Dongle and Screen Mirroring to watch some shows. I noticed yesterday that video playback has become extremely choppy since the Lollipop update. Anyone else experiencing this issue? I double checked my network settings and everything is working smoothly. Video playback on the Note 4 itself is just fine. Just choppy on my TV screen when Screen Mirroring through the Wireless Dongle. Any ideas about how to address this would be much appreciated. I am rooted, running stock TouchWiz Lollipop ROM, if that matters.
Try without the dongle? It does work wireless if you have a smart tv
I have the dongle because I don't have a Wi-Fi Direct/Screen Mirroring capable television. I did dig around in Application Manager and found Wi-Fi Direct Share, and I've cleared the cache and data for it. I'll try it out this evening to see if that will get it working smoothly again.
Should note that on KitKat, the Dongle worked just fine. It is a Samsung brand wireless dongle.
There is no data nor cache to clear on Screen Mirroring app itself nor on the Wi-Fi Direct app. So crossing my fingers this Wi-Fi Direct Share has something to do with it.
I have the same samsung wireless dongle but since I updated to 5.0 i havent had the chance to stream, ill give input in a few when i get home. Also i had a lot of freezing while watching movies on 4.4 not sure if you ever experienced that, it was very annoying. Also I'm stock.
Still not resolved
Wireless dongle playback is still choppy as described in OP. Interested to here from others. A better description might by jerky... Audio is just fine. Might dig around in the build.prop file later. Otherwise, any feedback from others experiencing this issue or others who might have an idea for troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated.
Try booting up in recovery and wiping cashe partition that seems to fix a lot of strange problems for me.
No such luck, mate. Thanks for the suggestion, though. It's bareable as is right now, but it does bug the **** out of me. Haha. I'm just wondering if anyone else out there is experiencing this. I'm thinking of borrowing a Chromecast off someone to see if it has the same issue. I mean, the video in every app is smooth as butter on my phone screen, but the TV is jerky ever so slightly via the Samsung Dongle. I know it's not just me because my wife who typically cares less about tech noticed it.
Leave it to good ol Sammy. Sort of like that BS way they built screen mirroring to break on rooted devices using third party (read:non Samsung dongle) back on the Note 3. Anyone have an idea of something I could try to edit in the build.prop file? Any other ideas? I found an app on the Play Store that's meant to fix Screen Mirroring issues after an update, but when loaded it doesn't give me the option to run it, apparently it thinks I am already patched. Oh. And Samsung was the manufacturer of that app, go figure. So apparently this has happened in in the past?
If all else fails, I may just try a fresh install. I'm trying to wait for the latest version of TWRP because I heard some folks have had no luck flashing ROMs through TWRP after upgrading to Lollipop OTA and then rooting (which is what I did; I never rooted on KitKat because I wanted to keep my 1 yr Sammy Warranty intact, just in case). I know tripping Knox apparently doesn't affect the Tmobile insurance, but I've read varying stories on whether it affects your Sammy factory warranty.
Well. I'm off off to play some AC Unity on the PS4. I'll check back later. Happy trails
I am experiencing the same issue ever since I updated to lollipop. Video mirroring to my Samsung smart TV very choppy.
Nobody has any possible solutions for this? Please give it a shot if you have any ideas whatsoever. Now we have two confirmed reports.
Quick update. Hard reset and even unroooting the device didn't resolve the issue. Definitely something baked into to the latest TMO stock ROM
I've even had the screen freeze on the chromecast when mirroring but audio still plays
@knarfies I used to get a similar issue with Netflix but Lollipop resolved it. So can you connect with Chrome cast, but it freezes occasionally? How often is it happening? The Samsung Dongle works without freezing audio or video but is jerky enough for me and the wife to notice. Wasn't like that on KitKat.
I'm running stock and im using the samsung dongle and the video actually plays smoother on 5.0, when I was on 4.4 it use to freeze all the time I'm not sure why is not playing gird for you guys, plus whatever I was on 4.4 the video playback in general would freez during playback even when I was not screen mirring.
I am currently rooted with a custom kernel and stock ROM, but even before the mods, it was no longer working correctly. Samsung has an app on the Play Store to patch problems with Screen Mirroring after a software upgrade, but when I downloaded it, it said I was already patched. Even after a hard reset and completely non rooted stock everything it hasn't worked perfectly like it did on KitKat since Lollipop.
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I am currently rooted with a custom kernel and stock ROM, but even before the mods, it was no longer working correctly. Samsung has an app on the Play Store to patch problems with Screen Mirroring after a software upgrade, but when I downloaded it, it said I was already patched. Even after a hard reset and completely non rooted stock everything it hasn't worked perfectly like it did on KitKat since Lollipop.
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Thats strange because its the complete opposite for me.