Let me apologize first of all as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile knwoing what I am doing (cooking ROMs included) and now just got my Galaxy /Android a couple weeks ago and am blank at all of it.
After messing up with some system files and (useless) stock applications (like I removed stk.apk and other stuff) I decided to do a full hardware reset as the phone started getting random crashes.
But after the full reset things only got dramatically worse. I quickly realized all the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they'd be "restored") and basically nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything.
So, a hardware system reset on the galaxy, doesnt really reset anything except user installed apps and settings... amazing
Can someone please tell me (the idiot here, I know) how to do a real full restore where all system files, all missing files and positively everything gets back in the Tab as it was originally?
What a flippin' nightmare... Thanks in advance very much!
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
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OK, first of all a big thanks for both file and info. Aside from the Stk.apk, the biggest thing that made me run into problems was trying to update my Contacts.apk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907399
things didnt work out for me and even after restoring the original files (Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex) nothing really worked again, reason for wich I tried a system reset.
Now, do I need to re-root the Tab or its still rooted, and can I perform the operations easily with Root Explorer like I did before? You mentioned to use adb and set permissions to 644 after push but, sorry again for the ignorance, I have no clue what adb is nor what/how to set permissions. Pathetic to be ignorant huh?
My last 2 questions are, where could I find the original Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex and if needed a full ROM to do a total restore?... hopefully I wont need to get to that point?...
Thanks a million again.
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
bartito said:
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
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Hmmmm thanks again but I think Im beyond all this. I dont have a file manager on my system, just realized I deleted the useless stock one and had repalced it with Root Explorer and ES File Explorer. I have them on my External SD Card to install them again but withou a file manager or an app installer cant get to them. And I tried download an app installer from the Market and get Framework errors non-stop and downloads do not initialize... I think Im beyond a quick fix... how do I get my hands on a stock full ROM to restore everything... and how? What a nightmare... gotta tell you, I love Windows Mobile... I love it... never ran into anything like this in the past 5 years of using it... never...
Thanks again!
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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Cant. Dont even know if I need Kies installed or not (I did have it installed) but adb just asks me to connect the phone and thats it... its connected aready... this is desperating...
OK I did manage to connect with adb but, how to I install applications? I can navigate to my SD card where I have ES File Explorer and Root Explorer but dont seem to be able to install them... Also if i try to copy Stk.apk I get immediately an failute message... this is crazy...
OK so I managed to install ES File Explorer and Root Explorer with adb... crazy process. It seems my phone is still rooted after the reset. From the phone I copied Stk.apk back to /system/apps where it was before deleted.
But needless to say nothing got fixed... not sure if Stk.apk is now "actually" installed or just there in the folder. But still nothing works and crashes every 10 seconds... logs provider, dialer, phone, framework, contacts... its all a firework of crashes...
Given that you've hard reset your device already, you are pretty much wasting your time trying to "fix" what you broke by messing with /system, and you should really just flash another ROM.
My suggestion would be to follow the advice on this thread.
Regards,
Dave
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
VeEuzUKY said:
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
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Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
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Yes Dave you are right, right and right again!!! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!!
The main thing I have understood with today's messy experience was that the actual ROM files are never deleted or damaged as long as you dont access them via a rooted tool and start deleting them. Now I understand that Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup (my favorite), My Backup Pro and others, only back-up and restore what the user installs on top of the ROM itself. So a full "reset" wipes all that data but leaves the ROM files as they always were. If they got damaged in the process, they'll still be damaged till a a full ROM restores all system data, now I get it.
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
Till I find an app or way to do a simple one-click "backup everything" and then "restore evertything" I always feel vulnerable to changes I make to the Tab that may get it unstable or corrupt and then not being able to be restored properly without a full ROM Flash and then re-installing all from scratch.
With WinMo, I could do all sorts of crazy experiments and tweaking and after that, a registry restore or back-up restore would bring me back my phone to exactly like it was with all my stuff and configuration in a matter of seconds or minutes. Thats what I need to find out with this Tab/Android and then Im ready to be able to explore messing up with this knowing I can always easily go back within minutes to the state I had before with all my apps and settings.
This is what I need to learn next how to do! Trampoline without a safety net is not a good idea. Ive alwways loved WinMo for the ease of backing up and restoring whatever I was doing on my handsets withjout ever worrying to put myself at risk to loose it all. I need to learn this on Android and its definitely more intricate!
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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instechgainza said:
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
VeEuzUKY said:
Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
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no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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instechgainza said:
no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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Where is the modaco kernel section you refer to? I can search for hours and find zilch... these blogs are endless...
VeEuzUKY said:
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
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What you want is a Nandroid backup, which you can only make from a recovery image like Clockworkmod recovery.
Essentially, this does exactly what you want, but you need to flash a new kernel (e.g. the MoDaCo kernel) which supports Clockwordmod.
Regards,
Dave
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
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i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
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When I delete stk.apk (for me useless useless useless) the first thing that happens immediately is that when I hang-up on a call made or received, the Tab vibrates then freezes for about 5 seconds then tells me the phone application has crashed. I tried this with 2 ROMs now as a test and its guaranteed. More even, if you use a program like SYSTEM APP REMOVER you can emulate the removal of an app by disabling it... it only takes me to disable STK and a reboot for the phone not to work. cant get rid of it, that simple
Most posts on this are two years old and links no longer work to files needed...
I have never rooted my SGH-T679 but now I keep getting notices that the phone memory is low. I would like to root without touching the rom on the phone so that I can finally dump the bloatware. I have read the XDA thread on rooting this phone and the links to root-stock.zip - 1.62 MB no longer work - come up file deleted or missing. Also second file required - ClockworkMod (? - not sure the name) also comes up as not found.
Yes, it is an old phone (actually only three years old) and I can't afford a another one right now. If I can still root this phone I can get more years out of it. And I like the Gingerbread rom it has.
Also - will the rooting process wipe out all currently downloaded and installed apps? I'd like to avoid that too if possible.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
Rooting wipes nothing. Links work fine for me. Perhaps dev-host was down at the time.
http://d-h.st/s9X root
http://d-h.st/O36 cwm
Are you talking about storage space? Removing bloat will not help as that only frees up system space which most apps won't use. If you mean actual memory rooting alone won't help and removing bloat won't help at all. These phones have very little memory and the only thing that will really help is a kit kat ROM as they have been optimized for phones with 512mb memory. Tweaks are mainly a placebo as @ArtfulDodger found out for us through extensive testing.
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Dvarl said:
Rooting wipes nothing. Links work fine for me. Perhaps dev-host was down at the time.
http://d-h.st/s9X root
http://d-h.st/O36 cwm
Are you talking about storage space? Removing bloat will not help as that only frees up system space which most apps won't use. If you mean actual memory rooting alone won't help and removing bloat won't help at all. These phones have very little memory and the only thing that will really help is a kit kat ROM as they have been optimized for phones with 512mb memory. Tweaks are mainly a placebo as @ArtfulDodger found out for us through extensive testing.
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I tried both of those links before I posted this. All download buttons on those pages led to spam ads. Seems every comment on those pages is how do I download - and then a mysterious thanks as if the answer was revealed and then deleted. At one point I got a link on that page to go to a page that said no file found - missing or deleted. Just tried again and found one download button that actually worked.
The system memory on my Exhibit 4G is just about full and there is 1.07 GB of system memory. The internal USB/SD memory is almost empty as is my external SD card. What I need to do is free up internal memory - and deleting apps that will not install to Internal USB/SD memory that I don't use has freed up a small amount of that system memory. But there are some apps that will not install to internal SD and insist on sitting in system memory. And then there are the screen after screen of apps that Samsung shoved on this phone that keep updating constantly and 80% of those apps I have never used. So researching this the recommendation always seems to be root and dump the bloatware - and have the ability to swap External SD for Internal SD. So I am looking to root. I have found Clockworkmod on some other site and just got the stock-rom.zip.
Thanks for responding - hopefully if I do this it I won't get notices to delete apps or the phone will cease this function and that function.
So after I root every app on the phone that I installed will still be there and the only difference is the phone will be rooted. Just asking because one video showed an empty phone other than stock apps after rooting.
Ok, then what you are more looking for may be swap sd since your on stock. It may be a hastle shifting things around. In the long run a lot of people chose to use this feature to have quite a few apps. I never personally used the feature as I never load many apps on my phone. So you would do the following.
1. Flash rootstock.zip
2. Flash cwm.zip
3. MAKE A BACKUP!!! (sorry but I need to stress this point as it will save you tons of headaches)
4. Install/flash swapsd you'll have to search for it as its buried in the thread
5. Shift non system apps/data to your memory card (new internal)
6. Enjoy
Hope the info helps.
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Dvarl said:
Ok, then what you are more looking for may be swap sd since your on stock. It may be a hastle shifting things around. In the long run a lot of people chose to use this feature to have quite a few apps. I never personally used the feature as I never load many apps on my phone. So you would do the following.
1. Flash rootstock.zip
2. Flash cwm.zip
3. MAKE A BACKUP!!! (sorry but I need to stress this point as it will save you tons of headaches)
4. Install/flash swapsd you'll have to search for it as its buried in the thread
5. Shift non system apps/data to your memory card (new internal)
6. Enjoy
Hope the info helps.
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how do i "flash root"? sorry im new =)
Instructions are in first post of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686384
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1776 said:
So after I root every app on the phone that I installed will still be there and the only difference is the phone will be rooted. Just asking because one video showed an empty phone other than stock apps after rooting.
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rooting alone will not touch any of your data. It just gives you full permissions to your phone.
however, I HIGHLY recommend you put a custom ROM on this phone. If you really want to get the most out of this phone, it is THE BEST way to go. I've owned this phone since it was first out and had so many problems with it on the stock ROM. I was seriously considering spending a lot of $$ on a new phone. Once I put a new ROM on it, its like a brand new phone. Everything is so much smoother. Just put your data on an SD card. If you sync your contacts with Google they will all sync back up to your phone. All your apps will be re-downloaded. Its a bit of a pain to set them all up again but soooo worth it.
After you make a backup, give it a shot. If you really don't like it then you could go back to the backup... but I doubt that would happen after you see just how well the phone runs.
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rooting alone will not touch any of your data. It just gives you full permissions to your phone.
however, I HIGHLY recommend you put a custom ROM on this phone. If you really want to get the most out of this phone, it is THE BEST way to go. I've owned this phone since it was first out and had so many problems with it on the stock ROM. I was seriously considering spending a lot of $$ on a new phone. Once I put a new ROM on it, its like a brand new phone. Everything is so much smoother. Just put your data on an SD card. If you sync your contacts with Google they will all sync back up to your phone. All your apps will be re-downloaded. Its a bit of a pain to set them all up again but soooo worth it.
After you make a backup, give it a shot. If you really don't like it then you could go back to the backup... but I doubt that would happen after you see just how well the phone runs.
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What ROM did you end up using?
Raschal said:
What ROM did you end up using?
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The most stable one I used was this CM 10, Fairly good performace and was rock solid stable for me.
I am currently using slimkat 4.4 though. It does have some small hiccups but nothing that makes me want to go back to CM 10
wadswerth said:
The most stable one I used was this CM 10, Fairly good performace and was rock solid stable for me.
I am currently using slimkat 4.4 though. It does have some small hiccups but nothing that makes me want to go back to CM 10
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Thanks for the info. I have used Peach Sunrise for sometime. It is very stable.
Towel root?
1776 said:
Most posts on this are two years old and links no longer work to files needed...
I have never rooted my SGH-T679 but now I keep getting notices that the phone memory is low. I would like to root without touching the rom on the phone so that I can finally dump the bloatware. I have read the XDA thread on rooting this phone and the links to root-stock.zip - 1.62 MB no longer work - come up file deleted or missing. Also second file required - ClockworkMod (? - not sure the name) also comes up as not found.
Yes, it is an old phone (actually only three years old) and I can't afford a another one right now. If I can still root this phone I can get more years out of it. And I like the Gingerbread rom it has.
Also - will the rooting process wipe out all currently downloaded and installed apps? I'd like to avoid that too if possible.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
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Have you ever heard of towelroot? there is a website called towelroot.com, and i am not sure whether it still works, but you should try anyway. You click the lambda and it will download an app. You then install it and click the make it rain button, and you should be root. After that, download Supersu, and root checker. You should then be able to clear bloatware with a root browser.
Hi All,
Day by day, another MIUI quirk/challenge... Things that were easy and possible under other phones and stock Android versions seem ever so more challenging under MIUI....
So, I purchased a nice 128GB SD Card to go with the built in storage. Mainly for moving data around, so don't loose it...
However due to Android 4.4 and beyond, Google make it difficult to write access this. However other File Managers and Android versions in past, I've managed to re-enable this. However with this phone, so far I have not found to a way to unlock it yet??
The usual app (FX Explorer) doesn't work, says I can't unlook the root of the SD Card, only individual folders... which it then complains, isn't the root.... (yeah, I know that... you wouldn't let me unlock the root of SD).
I try MIUI Storage settings, but that has nothing in there to unlock it....
I then install Google Files, as strangley a guide says that'll work... it doesn't....
There was then a guide with the stock Xiaomi File Manager to unlock write access to SD Card, yet the options in the guide don't exist in this version. And can't see how allowing access to my Contacts in File Manager and then clearing the settings would fix it anyway?
So now running out of idea's to allow access to SD Card... T'was so simple on other Android devices.....
Cheers, Lister
Update: Seems I am not alone, many have this bug and looks not to be fixed.... or consistently fixed. Very hit and miss....
https://www.reddit.com/r/miui/comments/joxuhi
The plot thickens.... or not, so it seems !!!
So under Developer Settings, there is an options to "Force Write Access to External SD for all Apps" so I have enabled this and it has done..... diddly squat !!!
What's the point of providing an SD Card slot, with no write access...??
Lister
Hi All,
Has anyone had any luck getting an Ext SD Card to be writable between apps....?? As all the usual methods that I know of, and apps (FX) that have worked in the past, don't work.
The OS built in settings don't work, and the hidden Developer Settings to force write access don't work....
So at this point, I am racking my brians why Xiaomi even bothered to include an SD Card slot, as currently its pointless and redundant !!!
I'm having to copy it from the Internal memory, onto PC, then from PC back onto Exteral.... and it's slow as hell and doesn't always work... It's a brand new SanDisk MicroSD purchased from large retail store... So not like its some iffy thing off eBay.
Cheers, Lister
Thats, lets say, weird. i never had that problem, try finding something in the developer options?
if nothing worked, then root your phone i guess
Yeah it's very weird, I've never faced this issue on any of my other phones in the past.... Which have mainly been Samsung's.... S2, S5 and Note 1.... All old and trusty models, had no issues with those phones over the years, they were like TANKS.... just kept on working.
However this phone, I am encountering issue, after issue.... things that worked like stock/standard under normal Android are not working on MIUI.... I can't even get Ringtones to work, just have the 3x ringtones it comes with with no option to add more....
SD Card won't allow me to write at the root of the card, it says create a folder from the root of the card and then make the folder writable. I do that, then the OS complains this isn't standard practice and that I should allow the whole card.... which was what I was trying to do, when it tells me "for my own privacy" not write at the root level... Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!! lol
I am trying not root the phone itself at the moment, as this is the most moddern and recent phone ever purchased and trying to run it as stock with banking apps.... But if pushed, I may try rooting and try masking root at a later date....
But for now, if there is any official non-root ways of making the SD Card work, would be grateful...
Cheers, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Yeah it's very weird, I've never faced this issue on any of my other phones in the past.... Which have mainly been Samsung's.... S2, S5 and Note 1.... All old and trusty models, had no issues with those phones over the years, they were like TANKS.... just kept on working.
However this phone, I am encountering issue, after issue.... things that worked like stock/standard under normal Android are not working on MIUI.... I can't even get Ringtones to work, just have the 3x ringtones it comes with with no option to add more....
SD Card won't allow me to write at the root of the card, it says create a folder from the root of the card and then make the folder writable. I do that, then the OS complains this isn't standard practice and that I should allow the whole card.... which was what I was trying to do, when it tells me "for my own privacy" not write at the root level... Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!! lol
I am trying not root the phone itself at the moment, as this is the most moddern and recent phone ever purchased and trying to run it as stock with banking apps.... But if pushed, I may try rooting and try masking root at a later date....
But for now, if there is any official non-root ways of making the SD Card work, would be grateful...
Cheers, Lister
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Yeah the root of the sd card is not allowed a lot of phones, i have a lumia 530 (windows phone) and don't have full access, but my huawei p smart 2019 has root of the sd
Hi All,
Just gets better and better..... NOT !!!
Xiaomi why the fook have you included an SD Card reader to your phones, and Google why do you allow the user to VIEW but NOT use additional storage? Might as well remove the SD Card slot and add a 3rd SIM slot.
Then rebrand Android OS to Google-iOS, and continue to lock this sh*t down !!! Utterly pointless....
Google Issue Tracker
issuetracker.google.com
So it seems this is a known issue since Android 11, getting worse in 12 and dread to think by time of 13. So many unhappy and angry users out there over Googles latest changes... So Google lock their DocsUI storage down to secure their devices, thus users are installing unknown apks to try and re-enable it or ROOT their phones to regain the feature back. Therefore reversing what Google are trying enforce... lol
Pity I purchased a 128GB SD for this phone, might as well slamed in a 2GB for all the use it'll get...
Lister
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
hmm
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
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Btw, on 4), I didn't need a reboot on A10, just enabled write access, then updated. Your mileage may vary, though, with A11+.
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
Day by day, another MIUI quirk/challenge... Things that were easy and possible under other phones and stock Android versions seem ever so more challenging under MIUI....
So, I purchased a nice 128GB SD Card to go with the built in storage. Mainly for moving data around, so don't loose it...
However due to Android 4.4 and beyond, Google make it difficult to write access this. However other File Managers and Android versions in past, I've managed to re-enable this. However with this phone, so far I have not found to a way to unlock it yet??
The usual app (FX Explorer) doesn't work, says I can't unlook the root of the SD Card, only individual folders... which it then complains, isn't the root.... (yeah, I know that... you wouldn't let me unlock the root of SD).
I try MIUI Storage settings, but that has nothing in there to unlock it....
I then install Google Files, as strangley a guide says that'll work... it doesn't....
There was then a guide with the stock Xiaomi File Manager to unlock write access to SD Card, yet the options in the guide don't exist in this version. And can't see how allowing access to my Contacts in File Manager and then clearing the settings would fix it anyway?
So now running out of idea's to allow access to SD Card... T'was so simple on other Android devices.....
Cheers, Lister
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I changed my SD card to another version and my problems were fixed... I don't know if it will help others bud I now associate the problem with my SanDisk as it is not working in my other Redmi
Be aware that when swapping cards, even if you had previously granted card write access, you'll get into the same problem again with the new card. Is it related it to FX not relying on system file transfer app to handle permission, but doing it on its own, instead?
Equally, bookmark links, which are linked to the card's individual path (/####-####/), once you swap card, won't work anymore, either.
Unfortunately, seems none of these and other reported issues seem will ever be fixed, so maybe it's time to move on...
Btw, wonder if this still works...?: NextApp SDFix
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
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thank you also @xetc for reporting the fix first. I was experiencing this on my secondary phone with LineageOS 17.1/ Android 10.
@tliebeck can you revisit the v. 8.0.3.0 code and re-implement the way you enabled media card write access in that version back into the current version? Obviously something got twisted (and has been ever since v. 8.0.3.0 +)
Above all, thank you for your app !!
Not sure why to use FX Explorer. I use Total Commander and it works to the ext SD card fine. (NOTE: Be aware that if you update to the 3.33 version or higher, you will lose the ability to install apps manually from the SD card. Blame Google! You can solve this by signing it with your favorite app (like apk-signer) so Play won't keep telling you there is an update to the program.
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
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The old 8.0.3.0 from December 2020 is now a 7-day trial app, and step #3 does not produce any "enable write access" from the top right hamburger menu. I enabled root/developer access in its settings but no difference.
EDIT: though I see no "enable write access" anywhere the app, I can read and write to it, and send files from it to Drive, the last 2 things fail on my RN11. Both are on custom ROMs on A13. So, this has to be a developer's issue in the ROM, OR something with the card itself. I will keep testing to see what I can find.
i.e. this no longer works (NOTE: this might just be an SD card issue. I am able to write to and send files from an external SD on a different ROM on a different A13 phone - Redmi Note 10 Pro - without any permissions stalls at all using Total Commander 3.31, for example.)
xetc said:
Be aware that when swapping cards, even if you had previously granted card write access, you'll get into the same problem again with the new card. Is it related it to FX not relying on system file transfer app to handle permission, but doing it on its own, instead?
Equally, bookmark links, which are linked to the card's individual path (/####-####/), once you swap card, won't work anymore, either.
Unfortunately, seems none of these and other reported issues seem will ever be fixed, so maybe it's time to move on...
Btw, wonder if this still works...?: NextApp SDFix
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Nope. It produces an error. "Platform permission file is invalid. no groups specified in WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE"
Sheist! said:
The old 8.0.3.0 from December 2020 is now a 7-day trial app, and step #3 does not produce any "enable write access" from the top right hamburger menu. I enabled root/developer access in its settings but no difference.
i.e. this no longer works (NOTE: this might just be an SD card issue. I am able to write to and send files from an external SD on a different ROM on a different A13 phone - Redmi Note 10 Pro - without any permissions stalls at all using Total Commander 3.31, for example.)
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Hi @Sheist! ,
All versions/editions of FX Explorer are considered a Trial edition when first installed... You can enable full features for a 7 - 14x day trial to which it reverts back to limited features. You only miss out on the bonus, networking/app management and few extra controls/filesystem features.... All the core Explorer features are still there...
This method was correct and accurate at the time of testing, which I believe I was on Android 11, as I don't think A12 was around at the time. Since upgraded to A12 afterwards it has still kept write access to the SD Card enabled after the hack.
I've not tried this method on A13 yet, as I am still on stock rom. However, each release of Android, from version 10 upwards keep tweaking SD Card usage, and restricts access to it more and more... So A13 could well have issues, don't know.
Personally, when I tried Total Commander back on A11, I couldn't get it to work at all (despite reading a guide somewhere) saying to use this. I tried all the various apps out there, one even suggested using the MiExplorer. No method worked at all, apart from that very specific release of FX Explorer, and when tried worked like a charm. As it always has done since Android 4.4x when Google first started messing around with SD Cards. I believe Android developers were asked to remove such features from their File Manager apps, hence why after 8.0.3.0 this feature disappeared.
There was a method briefly, using Googles own "Files" app, known as packagename "My Documents" or something like that... This feature only worked on Android 11, and had limited access when enabled. However as this is often a system app, and without root... Trying to disable, debloat, replace this app... this method also was fiddly and didn't work.... the only sucess that worked for me was what was mentioned above.
I tried practically everything, and was at the point of giving up and annoyed I wasted money on a 128GB SD card not to be used... until I stumbled on the above. Relieved it worked, and thought if it helps others in similar position, share the info... as I read pages and pages (forums/Googles own documentation) on how its disabled, how it no longer works, workarounds that didnt work... I believe it should still work for A11, and poss A12 roms (does via upgrade), however not personally tested on A13.
Cheers, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi @Sheist! ,
All versions/editions of FX Explorer are considered a Trial edition when first installed... You can enable full features for a 7 - 14x day trial to which it reverts back to limited features. You only miss out on the bonus, networking/app management and few extra controls/filesystem features.... All the core Explorer features are still there...
This method was correct and accurate at the time of testing, which I believe I was on Android 11, as I don't think A12 was around at the time. Since upgraded to A12 afterwards it has still kept write access to the SD Card enabled after the hack.
I've not tried this method on A13 yet, as I am still on stock rom. However, each release of Android, from version 10 upwards keep tweaking SD Card usage, and restricts access to it more and more... So A13 could well have issues, don't know.
Personally, when I tried Total Commander back on A11, I couldn't get it to work at all (despite reading a guide somewhere) saying to use this. I tried all the various apps out there, one even suggested using the MiExplorer. No method worked at all, apart from that very specific release of FX Explorer, and when tried worked like a charm. As it always has done since Android 4.4x when Google first started messing around with SD Cards. I believe Android developers were asked to remove such features from their File Manager apps, hence why after 8.0.3.0 this feature disappeared.
There was a method briefly, using Googles own "Files" app, known as packagename "My Documents" or something like that... This feature only worked on Android 11, and had limited access when enabled. However as this is often a system app, and without root... Trying to disable, debloat, replace this app... this method also was fiddly and didn't work.... the only sucess that worked for me was what was mentioned above.
I tried practically everything, and was at the point of giving up and annoyed I wasted money on a 128GB SD card not to be used... until I stumbled on the above. Relieved it worked, and thought if it helps others in similar position, share the info... as I read pages and pages (forums/Googles own documentation) on how its disabled, how it no longer works, workarounds that didnt work... I believe it should still work for A11, and poss A12 roms (does via upgrade), however not personally tested on A13.
Cheers, Lister
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The problem is I have other apps that need to write to the SD and at this point they started failing. I don't suspect A13, as CherishOS does not have this issue on RN10P, OR the SD card I am using on that RN10P phone is error-free. My card would not read in the crDroid recovery in my RN11 UNTIL I formatted it in Windows with NTFS. Even formatting in the phone in exFat gives an exFat error in the incorporated crDroid recovery! This is probably still some issue with my card or its formatting, as I don't see noise on this issue from other users. My external SD was working fine for my write/copy-to apps on A13 until I fixed the issue getting it to read in crDroid recovery, which oddly I don't even need anymore! (successfully installed TWRP to ramdisk now). I need to reformat back to exFat and see where I am. If good, then I will reply again.
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi @Sheist! ,
All versions/editions of FX Explorer are considered a Trial edition when first installed... You can enable full features for a 7 - 14x day trial to which it reverts back to limited features. You only miss out on the bonus, networking/app management and few extra controls/filesystem features.... All the core Explorer features are still there...
This method was correct and accurate at the time of testing, which I believe I was on Android 11, as I don't think A12 was around at the time. Since upgraded to A12 afterwards it has still kept write access to the SD Card enabled after the hack.
I've not tried this method on A13 yet, as I am still on stock rom. However, each release of Android, from version 10 upwards keep tweaking SD Card usage, and restricts access to it more and more... So A13 could well have issues, don't know.
Personally, when I tried Total Commander back on A11, I couldn't get it to work at all (despite reading a guide somewhere) saying to use this. I tried all the various apps out there, one even suggested using the MiExplorer. No method worked at all, apart from that very specific release of FX Explorer, and when tried worked like a charm. As it always has done since Android 4.4x when Google first started messing around with SD Cards. I believe Android developers were asked to remove such features from their File Manager apps, hence why after 8.0.3.0 this feature disappeared.
There was a method briefly, using Googles own "Files" app, known as packagename "My Documents" or something like that... This feature only worked on Android 11, and had limited access when enabled. However as this is often a system app, and without root... Trying to disable, debloat, replace this app... this method also was fiddly and didn't work.... the only sucess that worked for me was what was mentioned above.
I tried practically everything, and was at the point of giving up and annoyed I wasted money on a 128GB SD card not to be used... until I stumbled on the above. Relieved it worked, and thought if it helps others in similar position, share the info... as I read pages and pages (forums/Googles own documentation) on how its disabled, how it no longer works, workarounds that didnt work... I believe it should still work for A11, and poss A12 roms (does via upgrade), however not personally tested on A13.
Cheers, Lister
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I reformatted in the phone again (exFat) and all apps work fine again to/from the external SD card. I am on TWRP so I don't care about the installed crDroid recovery issue anymore. (A13, crDroid 9.3, TWRP 3.7.0_12-0)