That's the question. Update downloaded ok but I did not install it as I did not want to lose Root access. I have not seen anyone who used Geohot's Active Root to root their phone get the OTA installed.
I have a ton of stuff quarantined (what happens to them? Do they get released/un-quarantined?)
I have other programs that only work with root access such as Ti Backup and AdAway. Will they just cease to function?
APeter001 said:
That's the question. Update downloaded ok but I did not install it as I did not want to lose Root access. I have not seen anyone who used Geohot's Active Root to root their phone get the OTA installed.
I have a ton of stuff quarantined (what happens to them? Do they get released/un-quarantined?)
I have other programs that only work with root access such as Ti Backup and AdAway. Will they just cease to function?
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It don't work, we have known that since the test 4.3 came out
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It don't work, we have known that since the test 4.3 came out
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Well I guess it will just sit there uninstalled until we get a simple root then that works. Thanks
APeter001 said:
Well I guess it will just sit there uninstalled until we get a simple root then that works. Thanks
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You might want to be careful with that. From what I've read in the S4 forums after some unknown amount of time the update will install itself. The only known way to prevent it it to freeze wssync with Titanium Backup. If it never prompts you to install the update you're probably fine, but if it does I'd look into the TiBu option.
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I found a fix. Use super one click.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=437039&d=1289271263
Its done from a computer. Click unroot first if you were previously rooted.
If the program looks like it froze just close it reopen and then click root.
I too lost the root Z4root had given me and this did the trick.
Worked. You gotta be patient with the device. It looks like its not doing anything and may take a few minutes to unroot and then a few minutes to root again, but it works. Thanks.
Zandog said:
Hmmm, Says my device is rooted but when I check root on the device, it's not rooted. I rebooted the device and re-checked. No root according to any of the root apps. Any suggestions?
Post Note: If you are unable to obtain root using this method and your device is twitchy, FC's a lot, unroot your device using this program and it will smooth out. Your not rooted anyway, so remove the root.
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Click unroot first, close SuperOneClick, reopen then click root.
I have used the one click root program to root my captivate.. the problem is I'm still cannot use those program that require root permission.
I got the superuser permission icon already but I'm still cannot use root required apps... someone pls help.
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One rooted when you try and run a program that requires root access a notification should open asking if you why to allow root access.
Click on the super user app. What happens?
nope nothing pop up to ask if i allow the access...
I have tried a two types of one click root program which is Superoneclick and another one by TGA_Gunnman..
But both act in the same way that nothing will pop up and ask whether to allow access...
What happens when you click on the super user app?
Have you tried rebooting the phone?
Have you tried replacing apk with market, search superuser in market, see if it shows installed, try to update or replace
You are on stock, correct
yeap i have tried to reboot after the rooting process...
I can open the superuser app too.
Yes im on stock.
Im thinking should i use z4root now?
Might as well. Did you check for the app in the market?
What are you looking to accomplish with root? What is your goal?
yup i checked the market too... it shows i ald installed the superuser..
Just want to root and use the rom manager to back up...
And i dunno y suddenly the root works! now im okay! Thanks for the help!
I guess we need to install again from market and reboot in order to use this...
No problem, who knows what the issue was. Enjoy, I am sure you will be flashing roms in no time
Hello everyone. I know I'm a noob, but am hoping I can get some help anyway. Tried searching and not too many people are having the same problem, so I started a new thread.
Anyway, I used the one click root found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348557
( I tried to post in that thread, but can't since I don't have 10 posts )
I'm new to hacking and I'll be honest. I only wanted to root my phone so I could use wireless tether, and then use Titanium Backup to freeze a lot of the bloatware on the phone. I have no desire to install a different ROM. I'm happy with the one it has, and happy to take the updates Verizon pushes. Everything was good until the latest update came through. When it downloaded, and rebooted, instead of updating, it booted in clockwork mod recovery. No matter what I tried, I couldn't get the update to go through.
So I settled on never updating again and froze the updater to prevent my phone from trying to update and going to CMR at random times. About 4 days later, my bluetooth quit working. Couldn't figure out why. Thought I was going to have to send it in for warranty work, so I tried to undo all the mods. I unfroze everything, and then hit the one click unroot button. It said it worked. Problem is, superuser is still installed with no way to uninstall.
My first question is this: How do I get superuser gone so my phone can be back to factory so they'll never know it was rooted?
Next I tried to go ahead and get the update since the unrooting process was supposed to have reinstalled stock recovery. Well, it didn't. I still ended up booting up into CMR again. STILL can't update even after unrooting. Double checked, and wireless tether and Titanium backup both say "no root". On a whim, I try the blue tooth and guess what. It worked. May not need to send the phone off for warranty work after all.
So my second question is this: Would freezing the updater cause the blue tooth to stop working? If so, how can I either keep it working or stop the updates without freezing the updater? It's like I have to choose between having blue tooth or having my phone randomly boot into CMR whenever it tries to update.
Third question, pertaining specifically to the one click root I linked to above: How can I get rid of the CMR? Is it possible to root the phone without installing CMR? If I can get it unrooted back to factory ( without superuser or CMR ), how can I root it again so that it doesn't install CMR and keeps the stock one?
I know this is a lot of question and I'm a noob, but I'm a noob willing to learn. If this problem has been encountered before, I apologize in advnace for not finding the appropriate thread. I tried.
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Yes freezing the software update app will cause your Bluetooth to stop working. I used a app called Gemini app manager to go change the permissions of the software update app so it did not have any permissions to do anything. I have not been bothered with update prompts since.
NewDroidXUser said:
My first question is this: How do I get superuser gone so my phone can be back to factory so they'll never know it was rooted?
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There's no need. MTMichaelson has come up with a easy way to keep your phone rooted during the upgrade from ZV7 to ZV8.
NewDroidXUser said:
So my second question is this: Would freezing the updater cause the blue tooth to stop working? If so, how can I either keep it working or stop the updates without freezing the updater? It's like I have to choose between having blue tooth or having my phone randomly boot into CMR whenever it tries to update.
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Yes it will. Several people have reported this in different threads. I'm not sure of a way around this, but I think others might have a way around it. If you follow MT's method to keep root during the upgrade, you want have to worry about it!
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Third question, pertaining specifically to the one click root I linked to above: How can I get rid of the CMR? Is it possible to root the phone without installing CMR? If I can get it unrooted back to factory ( without superuser or CMR ), how can I root it again so that it doesn't install CMR and keeps the stock one?
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There's no need to do this either since you can keep root and upgrade.
Here's what you need to do.
1) Go here and root your phone again.
2) Go here to upgrade to ZV8 while keeping root. There's also a method for reinstalling CWM as the upgrade will remove it.
This will: keep your root, get you upgraded, fix your bluetooth and keep CWM.
Good luck!
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There's no need. MTMichaelson has come up with a easy way to keep your phone rooted during the upgrade from ZV7 to ZV8.
Yes it will. Several people have reported this in different threads. I'm not sure of a way around this, but I think others might have a way around it. If you follow MT's method to keep root during the upgrade, you want have to worry about it!
There's no need to do this either since you can keep root and upgrade.
Here's what you need to do.
1) Go here and root your phone again.
2) Go here to upgrade to ZV8 while keeping root. There's also a method for reinstalling CWM as the upgrade will remove it.
This will: keep your root, get you upgraded, fix your bluetooth and keep CWM.
Good luck!
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Ah, thanks. I'll post again to update how that went. Though, I'd like to keep the stock recovery. I'll try to do it without CWM.
latenighter49 said:
Yes freezing the software update app will cause your Bluetooth to stop working. I used a app called Gemini app manager to go change the permissions of the software update app so it did not have any permissions to do anything. I have not been bothered with update prompts since.
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How did you change permissions in Gemini? I turned off all the autorun features and was able to get Bluetooth working but I didn't see anything about permissions in the settings. I could have missed it though being at work and all. Will turning off all the autorun features of the Software Update app stop it from trying to download the update in the middle of the night when I'm not looking like it sounds like it should?
In gemeni select block app. It's the same as freezing in titanium backup.
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if you have knox 0x0 and took a OTA update does this mean you cant re-root i was rooted then i was foced to update then my root was gone
but my custom rom stayed and super su has now lost all granted access so i'm confused am i not able to root any more because of the update
or what? because odin keeps failing i real want to root my phone again
please help thanks in advance here is my info
Right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510603
Does not trip knox, roots MJ5, and does not wipe anything.
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if you have knox 0x0 and took a OTA update does this mean you cant re-root i was rooted then i was foced to update then my root was gone
but my custom rom stayed and super su has now lost all granted access so i'm confused am i not able to root any more because of the update
or what? because odin keeps failing i real want to root my phone again
please help thanks in advance here is my info
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If su is still there (/system/bin/su or /system/xbin/su), all you need is SuperSU, which you can install from the Play store. (Without an "su-ish" app, apps can't get root, even though su is installed.) If su isn't still there you'll have to root again.
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ZOOPidy said:
Right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510603
Does not trip knox, roots MJ5, and does not wipe anything.
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thanks so much i will try now didnt want to brick my new phone i got from the wife and the watch
thanks again
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Rukbat said:
If su is still there (/system/bin/su or /system/xbin/su), all you need is SuperSU, which you can install from the Play store. (Without an "su-ish" app, apps can't get root, even though su is installed.) If su isn't still there you'll have to root again.
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thanks super su is still there so your saying all i need to do is upgrade the super su or reinstall it
then grant access ?
alwayswatching said:
thanks super su is still there so your saying all i need to do is upgrade the super su or reinstall it
then grant access ?
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No, if SuperSU is still there and you don't get root, the su binry is evidently missing. That mans that you have to root all over again. (You need to be rooted to install the su binary, which you aren't, so ... which is why rooting uses an exploit [a different one in each line of phones] to get temporary root so it can install su to get permanent root.)
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No, if SuperSU is still there and you don't get root, the su binry is evidently missing. That mans that you have to root all over again. (You need to be rooted to install the su binary, which you aren't, so ... which is why rooting uses an exploit [a different one in each line of phones] to get temporary root so it can install su to get permanent root.)
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i have tried with odin but it keeps failing should i use the kingo root insted ?
at this stage what would be the best way to re-root
thanks in advance
Are you following these instructions? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Everyone else seems to report that this method for getting root works.
Kingo root works (though some people don't like Kingo)
Also - always freeze OTA update app after you root, otherwise you'll lose root with every OTA update.
If you're expecting an OTA update, you can unfreeze the app, then use SuperSU survival mode, then let it update, and then turn off survival mode to get root back. But ofc it's too late for that now in your case.
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DrAzzy said:
Are you following these instructions? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Everyone else seems to report that this method for getting root works.
Kingo root works (though some people don't like Kingo)
Also - always freeze OTA update app after you root, otherwise you'll lose root with every OTA update.
If you're expecting an OTA update, you can unfreeze the app, then use SuperSU survival mode, then let it update, and then turn off survival mode to get root back. But ofc it's too late for that now in your case.
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im not doing anything yet i don't want to brick the phone but in answer to your ? yes i want to try kingo
but there is a new version of kingo where you just let it run will that work also there is a video on it at you tube site
called kingo root note 3 should i do the fist kingo or the first one on the top of this thread
thanks in advance and thanks for the quick responce
I don't know the specifics of Kingo, I used the other method.
kingo one button
ok just did the new kingo for 4.3 with mj5 confirmed working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmc_QNJW68E
thanks again to all you guys who took time out to help me i am GREATLY APPRECIATIVE
AGAIN IT WORKS AND DOESN'T TRIP 0X1 IM STILL ON 0X0 NOW ROOTED AGAIN
its a great feeling now to stop the OTA UPDATES thanks guys
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alwayswatching said:
im not doing anything yet i don't want to brick the phone but in answer to your ? yes i want to try kingo
but there is a new version of kingo where you just let it run will that work also there is a video on it at you tube site
called kingo root note 3 should i do the fist kingo or the first one on the top of this thread
thanks in advance and thanks for the quick responce
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ok just did the new kingo for 4.3 with mj5 confirmed working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmc_QNJW68E
thanks again to all you guys who took time out to help me i am GREATLY APPRECIATIVE
AGAIN IT WORKS AND DOESN'T TRIP 0X1 IM STILL ON 0X0 NOW ROOTED AGAIN
its a great feeling now to stop the OTA UPDATES thanks guys
Kingo is fine. The Heimdall and Odin one is a pain in the but and risky. Mostly for restoring. I used kingo and its just fine. If you mess up then you can go to that other link and restore with or without root.
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ZOOPidy said:
Kingo is fine. The Heimdall and Odin one is a pain in the but and risky. Mostly for restoring. I used kingo and its just fine. If you mess up then you can go to that other link and restore with or without root.
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your right odin is a pain sometimes. kingo just worked first time boom one shot done
and i want to thank all the developers for there hard work and time for any program that allows us to do things we love to do with our phones
I installed 3.75 B03 safestrap on my S5A from AT&T. After I backed up my stock rom, I noticed that Safestrap was disabled and I lost my root on my phone. Does anyone know what might of happened? I have no custom roms or that sort of thing on my device. Please keep in mind that I just switched from IOS to Android a few weeks ago and am trying to learn everything via google. Thanks for any input on this matter.
When you say sfaestrap is disabled do you mean while your phone is booting it shoss the safestrap splashscreen with a red [Safestrap: disabled] because in that case safestrap is working that just means you aren't currently booted in to a rom slot which is fine. As for loosing root, what all have you done to verify this? Have you considered just rerooting?
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Rakuu said:
When you say sfaestrap is disabled do you mean while your phone is booting it shoss the safestrap splashscreen with a red [Safestrap: disabled] because in that case safestrap is working that just means you aren't currently booted in to a rom slot which is fine. As for loosing root, what all have you done to verify this? Have you considered just rerooting?
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Yes, you are correct. It shows red [Safestrap: disabled]. I used root checker from the play store to check if I was still rooted. It determined that I was not. The weird thing is, I rebooted my device and got root access again. So I rebooted it yet once again and I lost root access. It seems to be an intermittent problem. If I keep rebooting, it will eventually give me root access again. I was also able to successfully backup my stock rom and restore the device to give me root access again as well. I've just been playing around with it to try and figure out what is causing it to lose root access. Any ideas? I do have a 64gb evo samsung class 10 card if that makes any difference.
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Yes, you are correct. It shows red [Safestrap: disabled]. I used root checker from the play store to check if I was still rooted. It determined that I was not. The weird thing is, I rebooted my device and got root access again. So I rebooted it yet once again and I lost root access. It seems to be an intermittent problem. If I keep rebooting, it will eventually give me root access again. I was also able to successfully backup my stock rom and restore the device to give me root access again as well. I've just been playing around with it to try and figure out what is causing it to lose root access. Any ideas? I do have a 64gb evo samsung class 10 card if that makes any difference.
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Do you have supersu or superuser or any root manager app like that? If not install one and ser it up(install binaries, etc) and give it another go. If yiu do what exactly happens when you check, does any popup come up asking if you want to grant or disallow access?
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Rakuu said:
Do you have supersu or superuser or any root manager app like that? If not install one and ser it up(install binaries, etc) and give it another go. If yiu do what exactly happens when you check, does any popup come up asking if you want to grant or disallow access?
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I already had supersu installed. I don't recall ever having to set anything up. So I think everything is set at default. Should I "install SuperSu into /system"?
citron2k1 said:
I already had supersu installed. I don't recall ever having to set anything up. So I think everything is set at default. Should I "install SuperSu into /system"?
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That shouldnt be necesaary. So i assume everything ran smooth with installing busybox(required for safestrap) and any other root applications? The dialogs came up and such? You never answered my question last time, have you already allowed root checker root access, or has it ever asked for it at all?
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Rakuu said:
That shouldnt be necesaary. So i assume everything ran smooth with installing busybox(required for safestrap) and any other root applications? The dialogs came up and such? You never answered my question last time, have you already allowed root checker root access, or has it ever asked for it at all?
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Yes, I did allow root checker root access. Sorry I missed that question. Further, everything ran smoothly with busybox. I'll just keep an eye on it. I hardly ever have to reboot my phone. Its just a minor hiccup that I have to deal with for now. Thanks for your help in this matter.