Hey all. Lately I've been on a mission to "cut the Google" cord and have now worked my way down to my Nexus 4. I was wondering if anyone else in the Nexus 4 community runs a Google free device.. Maybe we can share our setups and suggestions.. Android for me isn't what it was when I first got involved.. More and more Google seems to want to dig deeper and deeper into tying everything on a phone into their servers.. I'm sorta over it and Google itself at this point with their hamfisting of their apps and services .. I love the OS, not the company.. Hence.. AOSP without Gapps..
My Google free setup right now is the following
ROM: Raskat (without any Gapps or Google Play Services obviously)
I use the following as my software sources.. Main one being 1Mobile Market which is one of the largest (and legal) Play Store alternatives.. Even has Chrome, Maps, Play Services etc if you actually want Google apps. (which would defeat the purpose but they are there)
Amazon App Store
F-Droid
1Mobile Market
Slide Me
Mail: I haven't ditched gmail yet as I have 3 gmail accounts and it's going to be the largest move away from Google and saving it for last. I connect with the AOSP email IMAP client for now though.
Browser: Cleared all my saved bookmarks and passwords off Googles Dashboard and manually create a list of bookmarks saved locally only in AOSP browser. Passwords all saved locally in KeePass
Contacts: I exported my contact list from the Google servers as a Vcard (then deleted them all from Google) and imported it to my contacts app. I keep a backup on a cloud service and locally if I update them.
Maps: I use MapQuest as it doesn't rely on the Google Maps API.
Calendar: is my only missing link right now as most all calender apps I found rely on Google Calenders framework to sync etc.
So far I'm enjoying it. I lost a lot of payware from the Play Store I've bought over the years but I'm learning to live without it. I'm thoroughly enjoying knowing my device is truly Google free at this point.
styckx said:
Hey all. Lately I've been on a mission to "cut the Google" cord and have now worked my way down to my Nexus 4. I was wondering if anyone else in the Nexus 4 community runs a Google free device.. Maybe we can share our setups and suggestions.. Android for me isn't what it was when I first got involved.. More and more Google seems to want to dig deeper and deeper into tying everything on a phone into their servers.. I'm sorta over it and Google itself at this point. I love the OS, not the company..
My Google free setup right now is the following
Raskat (without any Gapps obviously)
I use the following as my software sources.. Main one being 1Mobile Market which is one of the largest (and legal) Play Store alternatives.. Even has Chrome, Maps, Play Services etc if you actually want Google apps. (which would defeat the purpose but they are there)
Amazon App Store
F-Droid
1Mobile Market
Slide Me
Mail: I haven't ditched gmail yet as I have 3 gmail accounts and it's going to be the largest move away from Google and saving it for last. I connect with the AOSP email IMAP client for now though.
Browser: Cleared all my saved bookmarks and passwords off Googles Dashboard and manually create a list of bookmarks saved locally only in AOSP browser. No more syncing.. Passwords all saved locally in KeePass
Contacts: I exported my contact list from the Google servers as a Vcard (then deleted them all from Google) and imported it to my contacts app. I keep a backup on a cloud service and locally if I update them.
Maps: I use MapQuest as it doesn't rely on the Google Maps API.
Calendar: is my only missing link right now as most all calender apps I found rely on Google Calenders framework to sync etc.
So far I'm enjoying it. I lost a lot of payware from the Play Store I've bought over the years but I'm learning to live without it. I'm thoroughly enjoying knowing my device is truly Google free at this point.
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I, too, have cut off most of my links to Google. I would like to know if there are any more alternatives out there....
Scheherez said:
I, too, have cut off most of my links to Google. I would like to know if there are any more alternatives out there....
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Nice to see I'm not the only one here so far.. There are a lot of options out there and 100% completely possible to run a 100% completely Google free device.. AOSP is beautiful without Googles apps and Play Services hamfisted into it data mining god knows what. I also don't miss the Play Store and everything and anything having a price tag attached to it regardless of quality.
It's nice looking into the accounts section and not seeing Google or them even being an option.
Another great Maps alternative is OsmAnd Maps and Navigation
Is there also an increased battery life using your phone this way without all the processes running in the background?
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Probably but I haven't really focused on that so I can't give any sound feedback. Running your device this way is more of a personal choice to get rid of "big brother Google". I liken it to dumping Ubuntu for pure Debian instead.
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I have thought about doing this many times but for me it is all about the ease of the items I use from Google that make my life easier. Also, the play store has me hooked in because I have spent quite a bit on there.
Yeah I'm in the process of doing the same thing. I'll be honest Google wanting to access more and more of my data has gotten to me a little. It's okay for them to manage my mail (I've come too far), but when I get notifications about flight itineraries it goes from being convenient to conveniently creepy. To be frank, I have no doubt that Google is as responsible as any other company is with my information. And given their user base, the occasional slip up is to be expected. But the bottom line is I don't really enjoy a multinational corporation having that much access to my personal data. And no, they're not harvesting all my information and selling it to other companies to spy on me, like some think.
I just feel like they ought to be reined in a bit. And F Google+ and uploading my photos without me having ever asked. Do you, Google. Just do it without me.
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1Mobile Market? Don't they take your information too?
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Nope.. I never created an account. it is optional or sign in with your Google account. Nothing to buy there really anyway. Has everything I need that is normally carried on the Play Store. Just the freeware versions.
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You mentioned you use the aosp browser. Just so you know, that is a google app, and if you allow it, it will sync to your google account.....just sayin' I personally think firefox would be the first choice if you don't want anything google. It allows firefox account syncing, plugins, etc. And the plugings aren't cheesy like dolphin's. They have real ones like ab+, and all.
AOSP Browser without Google Services Framework will not sync to anything, it can't. It's Impossible. It is a plain as day web browser with local bookmarks being the only thing available. If I go to add an account in settings there isn't an option for Google because nothing Google related is on my build. It's AOSP as AOSP gets.
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styckx said:
AOSP Browser without Google Services Framework will not sync to anything, it can't.
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Right....no gapps package. I forgot
hp420 said:
Right....no gapps package. I forgot
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No problems. This has been fun and not something most actually do so.. It's out of the typical routine of things. :laugh:
Sounds interesting to try cuz I don't understand why android system is always searching for location in app ops although I have all location off
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Do not forget the article on the XDA main page:
Remove the Google from CyanogenMod with Freecygn
I would mostly/only miss Google Maps.
user822 said:
Do not forget the article on the XDA main page:
Remove the Google from CyanogenMod with Freecygn
I would mostly/only miss Google Maps.
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Thanks but. No way..
I refuse to touch Cyanogenmod with someone elses devices let alone my own devices. Cyanogenmod has been dead to me for years.
styckx said:
Thanks but. No way..
I refuse to touch Cyanogenmod with someone elses devices let alone my own devices. Cyanogenmod has been dead to me for years.
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Mind elaborating as to why? Purely curious lol. I personally only do AOSP builds, myself, but I'm interested in why you are so anti-CM? I assume nowadays it has to do with Cyanogenmod, Inc.?
EnMod said:
Mind elaborating as to why? Purely curious lol. I personally only do AOSP builds, myself, but I'm interested in why you are so anti-CM? I assume nowadays it has to do with Cyanogenmod, Inc.?
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Since you asked and I'll keep it short.
What Cyanogen Inc is now isn't a surprise to many.. Most purist (read: Fans of AOSP) Android users after CM7 saw the direction CM was heading and abandoned ship at ICS/CM9. I've said many times.. Cyanogenmod 7 was the last good Cyanogenmod. Instead of just making a cool AOSP based ROM with features they started trying to make Cyanogenmod a "thing". It all started with that terrible File Manager they shoehorned in and snowballed from there. It's laughable at best to pitch Cyanogenmod on the "AOSP Derived" line that so many still use.. At this point it's like saying the Ford Fusion is derived from the Model T (ok, that's an extreme example but you get my point). Add in everything they did when the Cyanogen Inc company was formed.
Nope..
Wow.
I could never imagine doing this.. I use Google for contact and calendar sync and email, bookmarks etc... even on my Lumia 520.
MameTozhio said:
Wow.
I could never imagine doing this.. I use Google for contact and calendar sync and email, bookmarks etc... even on my Lumia 520.
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Yeah.. It's a personal thing. It hit me just how much data Google hoards when I randomly looked at my Google Dashboard one day and saw the Chrome Sync stats. Seeing in pictures just the sheer amount of data they have on me was a "moment". Then I started just piecing everything together about how many sectors of technology they've got their hands in all based around "providing services" over the internet. I just decided that was the end for me. I deleted all my dashboard data, went back to Firefox, deleted my Google+ accounts. I'm just going back to the old school days.. Limiting what is given to companies and lowering my online profile. For now keeping Google just for email and nothing more. It's just not per-say Google.. It's just the current trend of everything "needing" to be online and "synced" in some cloud. I don't need my entire livelihood and trends online.. No one should.. But... That's just my opinion. I can't stay away from everything (I mean I have a Facebook account) but I can do a lot to minimize what is given.
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Finally some real apps! Scoreboard that keeps track of all sports and picasa album that you can upload photos into. Loving it they both kick butt!!
there is a new one from Google for maps as well, Google maps editor. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it integrates into the map program- I cant pull up stuff I have pinned in the ap with the normal maps program.
I guess the thing I need to learn about android is that we dont really seem to have any plug-ins, just new programs to work alongside the current ones. It seems like google would have an extension, or plug-in that would work WITH maps.
I think Google rolling out a couple apps this late in the game is laughable. Personally, it seems like they've expected the advanced user to do it themselves and they're rolling out apps to appeal to the sidekick end of the spectrum. Anyone locked out of root at this point is feeling pretty butthurt I can imagine. Don't give me a scoreboard app, give me an application that will let me save apps to my sdcard. I can imagine if the latter isn't worked out, it could cause some frustration when they begin to charge for apps; i.e. hard reset= bye bye apps I paid for.
/rant
They probably have larger treams to work on the big stuff, like root. I think, more likeley that these are some of the "personal projects" Google employees are expected to work on.
As far as the hard reset issue, I expect that the market will keep a record of what you paid for so you can download things again as needed.
The My Maps Editor (which I can't find on the market???) is shown as that Google staff member's 20% work time. So while it;s released by Google, it's not actually an allocated Google Project.
Also, I'd say the Picasa app is a "plug-in" not an actual 'side-by-side' app.
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there is a new one from Google for maps as well, Google maps editor. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it integrates into the map program- I cant pull up stuff I have pinned in the ap with the normal maps program.
I guess the thing I need to learn about android is that we dont really seem to have any plug-ins, just new programs to work alongside the current ones. It seems like google would have an extension, or plug-in that would work WITH maps.
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Yeah i hear you, its hard after all these years of being a wm user not to call them plugins. Will have to check out the maps editor one didn't even see it. If it doesn't work with maps then kinda defeats the purpose!
stats555 said:
Finally some real apps! Scoreboard that keeps track of all sports and picasa album that you can upload photos into. Loving it they both kick butt!!
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It's just a name of developer. You can register a company name when register an develop account.
Well, even if "Google, inc" isn't the real Google, they have by far the most polished looking and working apps of anyone else listed in the market that I have seen yet. I dont even need or use Scoreboard, but I still downloaded it and I am very impressed with the workings. Good for impressing friends
I Dont. Please post your ideas on bing. Check bing out at http://www.bing.com
I LIKE GOOGLE.
i only used that site once..google is more for me
I like bing's map aka micro soft maps. Thay have my city made detailed then google maps. May be whole india also.
People actually use it? I though it was a failed attempt by them...
Google > Bing
its an epic fail
Naa bing sucks... Google all the way!!!
Nothing wrong with Bing, esp. the new bing app with turn by turn nav.
I have made it my new search engine on my phone since google wants to take me to their version of mobile websites now (google renders the page and screws it all up)
I liked the Bing Navigation, but never really used it. I only used Bing for cash back, but they ended that. I use google or twitter for my news/searches.
Bing.com made it into the blacklist of my router!
Due to not pop up any results after a phrased search.
Google did a better job at that!
google is the one I used more frequently. My secon option is yahoo.
Ive used bing once, and that was only to search for google.
I prefer it to Google, myself. More relevant results IN MY EXPERIENCE.
That said, who only uses one search engine? If I don't get results I want on one I hop to the other.
I like some Bing's....
Anine Bing, Carmella Bing... http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...photo&sa=1&q=bing&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
But I always use google to search, Bing is to imprecise..
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People actually use it? I though it was a failed attempt by them...
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I hate bing, why do people use it. it dosent WORK!!!!! =)
google for the win
Surely not me!
But I have noticed that now comes flagged as default searcher on many computers sold in department stores.
Bing is really excellent for *ahem* adult videos... But Google for everything else.
With all the negativity about google music not being available in the UK, or outside the US in general, i figured this may be good news for some here.
I'm not sure if this has been covered before or not so here goes.
I basically found a way to get the google music service working in the UK, no fake google accounts, settings to change or anything like that is needed here at all.
If you just try and go to music.google.com from outside the US you normally get a message saying it's unavailable so here i tell you how to get around this for quick and easy access to the ability to store 20000 songs for free.
1. Go to www.unblock-us.com and sign up for a free 7 day trial by giving them your email address. This site is great for also accessing other US content such as US netflix and all sorts of other things outside the US (I actually subscribe to this service as i think it's brilliant, others may not want to do so).
2. Update your DNS settings on your computer/laptop/router as per the guides on the above site.
3. Once up and running on the Unblock-US DNS, fire up your favourite browser and go to music.google.com and sign in. NOTE you will no longer get the message saying it's for users in the US only.
4. Set up Google music, download the music manager to your computer and start uploading music.
5. You can now remove the Unblock-US DNS settings and go back to using your normal settings. Your Google account will still work even if using a non US internet connection and you will be able to access the Google music site from any computer.
6. Enjoy Google music anywhere, on any connection.
Please hit the thanks button if this helps.
Rik.
You can also use the TOR browser, keep refreshing until you have a US based proxy then just navigate to Google music and register your account. Once you've registered you can use Google music anywhere (normal browser, android app, etc)
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aindow said:
I'm not sure if this has been covered before or not so here goes.
I basically found a way to get the google music service working in the UK, no fake google accounts, settings to change or anything like that is needed here at all.
If you just try and go to music.google.com from outside the US you normally get a message saying it's unavailable so here i tell you how to get around this for quick and easy access to the ability to store 20000 songs for free.
1. Go to www.unblock-us.com and sign up for a free 7 day trial by giving them your email address. This site is great for also accessing other US content such as US netflix and all sorts of other things outside the US (I actually subscribe to this service as i think it's brilliant, others may not want to do so).
2. Update your DNS settings on your computer/laptop/router as per the guides on the above site.
3. Once up and running on the Unblock-US DNS, fire up your favourite browser and go to music.google.com and sign in. NOTE you will no longer get the message saying it's for users in the US only.
4. Set up Google music, download the music manager to your computer and start uploading music.
5. You can now remove the Unblock-US DNS settings and go back to using your normal settings. Your Google account will still work even if using a non US internet connection and you will be able to access the Google music site from any computer.
6. Enjoy Google music anywhere, on any connection.
Please hit the thanks button if this helps.
Rik.
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You can do all of that using way simpler methods via Hotspot Shield or a web based proxy (e.g. hidemyass.com).
I'm pretty sure this subject has been covered before here on XDA, but thanks anyway. :good:
Had access for a while, been able to do this since the day it launched. I even managed to get some of the free music.
As someone who occasionally buys music (I know some must think I'm mad to pay for it) I'd like the option of being able to use the store. Its no problem though i just buy elsewhere and let my PC add it.
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I'd probably see if tunlr.net works first.. no point in paying for something you can get free.
I wish google would start rolling out some of this stuff.. they put all these features into jelly bean then when you run the OS you get the same old..
I used tunnelbear a few weeks back. Was a painless installation, adequate speeds since I just had to accept the google music terms and conditions, painless removal from my computer and I was up and running with google music in 5 minutes or less.
when I was signing up I just used a SSH tunnel to a (virtual)server I rent in the US worked fine.
I would also like the ability to be able to actually purchase music from the google store, my music collection is in dire need of an update.
Is it also possible to get google magazines and google books working?
Google music is up and running at my phone for about 5 months now.
Market Unlocker is the easiest in my opinion. Pro version fetches proxy automatically and all you have to do is turn it on.
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I also used TunnelBear. Really easy and quick to setup. I had tried the Tor browser before but didn't have any joy. So I recommend TunnelBear.
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Yes, +1 for tunnel bear. Tor browser only ever set my location to anonymous proxy. Funnily enough Google wasn't fooled!
brb123 said:
Is it also possible to get google magazines and google books working?
Google music is up and running at my phone for about 5 months now.
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The apps themselves work, but whenever I try to make purchases, it tells me that I need a US credit/debit card
But I have been trying to get hold of some prepaid voucher american/canadian visas in order to counter this, but there don't seem to be any available to buy online.
So if any Americans fancy going to a local store for me and buying a couple, please do (will pay obviously...:cyclops
AleT said:
Yes, +1 for tunnel bear. Tor browser only ever set my location to anonymous proxy. Funnily enough Google wasn't fooled!
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wow! thanks. i installed tunnel bear, registered in google music and then uninstaled tunnel bear and it works!
i'm in portugal using Google Music
thanks!
is there a chance that once Google Music comes to the UK, users who used this work around could be affected from not using the UK service?
twistedh said:
The apps themselves work, but whenever I try to make purchases, it tells me that I need a US credit/debit card
But I have been trying to get hold of some prepaid voucher american/canadian visas in order to counter this, but there don't seem to be any available to buy online.
So if any Americans fancy going to a local store for me and buying a couple, please do (will pay obviously...:cyclops
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I bought some music the other day with my Aussie credit card. I set a US address (hint: look up real estate sites for a genuine address ) and set this as my default shipping and billing address. You have to do this in http://wallet.google.com prior to logging on to http://music.google.com. Remember to reset this for your regular purchases through the Play Store.
I've had Google Music in Canada for months now. Used super hide ip and signed up.
I'm unsure if it's harder to sign up now then it was when I signed up.
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Music uploaded not showing on tablet
Hi guys
I have a problem with this process. I used Tunnel Bear and i was able to install Music Manager without a glitch. As i type this my music library is uploading at a steady rate. I live in Spain (where the Nexus is available since just a couple of days, although no music service so far) but bought the Nexus 7 trough a friend in Canada a few weeks ago (could not wait, ha). The Google Music app is, therefore, preinstalled, but my music so far is not showing at all. There`s only a message to use USB to transfer music locally. I did try to sideload the app, but it did not make any difference. Same result rebooting the tablet. Nothing showing. So far i have about 100+ songs uploaded, but there`s nothing to show for in my tablet. Surely i`m doing something wrong?
sith1970 said:
Hi guys
I have a problem with this process. I used Tunnel Bear and i was able to install Music Manager without a glitch. As i type this my music library is uploading at a steady rate. I live in Spain (where the Nexus is available since just a couple of days, although no music service so far) but bought the Nexus 7 trough a friend in Canada a few weeks ago (could not wait, ha). The Google Music app is, therefore, preinstalled, but my music so far is not showing at all. There`s only a message to use USB to transfer music locally. I did try to sideload the app, but it did not make any difference. Same result rebooting the tablet. Nothing showing. So far i have about 100+ songs uploaded, but there`s nothing to show for in my tablet. Surely i`m doing something wrong?
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Got the exact same problem! Not working on nexus 7 with preinstalled music.app but its working on my galaxy s2 using the music.apk provided by xda!
Any solutions? Would be great to be able to use the app on nexus 7!
Just picked up my Nexus 7 today on launch day in Holland and will definitely be trying any of the aforementioned options.
Thanks so much for the valuable info.
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Dainemeid said:
Got the exact same problem! Not working on nexus 7 with preinstalled music.app but its working on my galaxy s2 using the music.apk provided by xda!
Any solutions? Would be great to be able to use the app on nexus 7!
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Have you both tried clearing the app data in settings? That should fix it
BTW, +1 for tunnel bear. I was trying for over an hour using various proxys, none worked. This did it in 2 mins. Got over 2 thousand songs on now, not even a 1/3 of the way through......
Hey,
I am always a bit scared (paranoid?) when it comes to log in anywhere with my google account. I have a huge amount of data in my cloud (of course I use double-auth) and I do not want to risk anything with that account.
So, when I use RemixOS and/or the RemixOS Player, would you consider it save, to use your "real" google account in that system?
Because when I start to really use Remix, I would like to have ALL my android benefits in that shell. My contacts, my Apps, my Drive, my everything.
As far as I know, Google took away play store support from Remix (for whatever reason) and Google obv does not like to have people accessing the play store from within Remix.
So when I activate Play Services with my real account registered, is there any danger, they might block/close that account as "un-licensed use of play services" or something like that?
I am a Android Developer, so if something happens to this account, even my Apps would be in danger. But on the other hand, such a shell makes no sense to me, when I can NOT use the real account.
What would you do? What would Plato do?
Thanks for your thoughts
H.
160 views, more than a week and not a single person will tell, whether he or she uses his real google account or a faked one?
Wow... this forum really has lots of active users.
I was hesitant to buy P40 Pro (I had P30 pro) because of a lack of GMS. But I am spontaneous and had a birthday... and both one
My first observations:
+Great camera - especially zoom one!
+video is better
+Has double tap to wake up, boy how I missed this I disabled it - too many self unlocks
+Fast!
+UFS 3 is a lot faster internal storage than 2 on P30 - downloading pictures is 2x faster over WiFi
-the screen is a bit darker than P30's?
-this huge cutout on a screen for useless (for me!) 3D camera
-has pre-applied screen protector I removed it and now is fine
-The wide camera is 18mm instead of 16mm in P30 Pro
- battery last shorter time
more + and - will come as I use it from 5 h
Now about missing services - phone clone app is by far the best cloning solution I ever used - in 5 minutes I had an almost exact copy of my P30!!! Minus Google Chrome and something else, I can't remember I miss Chrome but for now, with some minor hiccups, FireFox is filling the gap! Chrome is the best I installed it
All apps I use are up and running for the moment - future updates I need to figure it out how to backup calendar? - The internal backup app is doing the job remain to be seen restore if needed
In General, I am happy with it, only time can prove me wrong
Thanks for sharing your experiences! Still doubting to buy this phone. Chromecast and lack of Strava are the only things really holding me back at the moment.
Chrome I never use anyway (Firefox preview is nice!), I suppose Brave Browder doesn't work either? Or does it?
MajestyZ said:
Thanks for sharing your experiences! Still doubting to buy this phone. Chromecast and lack of Strava are the only things really holding me back at the moment.
Chrome I never use anyway (Firefox preview is nice!), I suppose Brave Browder doesn't work either? Or does it?
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Today using apkmirror I instaled chrome and google gallery - they work thou cant make chrome sign in with my account
Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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I tried APKPure installing google Duo but Duo can't connect for some reason (GMS? )
pesho00 said:
I was hesitant to buy P40 Pro (I had P30 pro) because of a lack of GMS. But I am spontaneous and had a birthday... and both one
My first observations:
+Great camera - especially zoom one!
+Has double tap to wake up, boy how I missed this
+Fast!
-the screen is a bit darker than P30's?
-this huge cutout on a screen for useless (for me!) 3D camera
-has preaplied screen protector
-Wide camera is 18mm instead of 16mm in P30 Pro
more + and - will come as I use it from 5 h
Now about missing services - phone clone app is by far the best cloning solution I ever used - in 5 minutes I had almost exact copy of my P30!!! Minus Google Chrome and something else, I can't remember I miss Chrome but for now, with some minor hiccups FireFox is filling the gap!
All apps I use are up and running for the moment - future updates I need to figure it out how to backup calendar?
In General I am happy with it, only time can prove me wrong
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check this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...s-live-gms-t4081351/post82258015#post82258015
you may be suprised how much more alternatives you can get and sometimes even much better
MajestyZ said:
Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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As I know from my friend, Netflix can stream HD on P40 Pro. Check again please
Huaweifans said:
As I know from my friend, Netflix can stream HD on P40 Pro. Check again please
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Where did he get the APK for Netflix? I can't find one on APK pure that works.
hpsauce37 said:
Where did he get the APK for Netflix? I can't find one on APK pure that works.
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Latest Apk on Apkmirror
Huaweifans said:
Latest Apk on Apkmirror
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Says not compatible with my device. I assume you need play services installed?
hpsauce37 said:
Says not compatible with my device. I assume you need play services installed?
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Show me the DRM Info on your P40 Pro please
Huaweifans said:
Show me the DRM Info on your P40 Pro please
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Of about 120 apps there's only 1 that i really need which I can't get to run (parklio, they rely on google for the login it seems).
I can easily replace the weather apps that won't work without google, a couple of apps like Banking keep complaining about missing google play services but still work.
Somehow it feels really good to be able to get rid of google in one way or another.
After some time of usage - updating apps seems to be an issue - I played Clash of clans for some years (nursing children accounts too ) and when moved to P40 everything seems to be ok BUT new version seems to be a problem - found the game in Amazon store - when tried to install it sais uninstall first - I'll lose all accounts after new version arrived tried again this time Amazon Instaled the game as e second version without accounts ....
I have all my apps and games without GMS. Just Sparkasse Bank in Germany haven't but in the future I believe that it will be solved.
And I'm happy without GMS. And my Handy is also happy without Googles devil in my phone.
Is there a chance to run the store and other applications without pop-up notifications? I have tried several articles but none of them remove notifications about the lack of certificates. After 30 minutes of attempts, google frimework id returns, I delete the old gsm application and install v2 but notifications like that are still there. Anyone have any idea or know the solution?
The P40 Pro has been a blessing in disguise. Challenging at first, it has been a great exercise to eliminate my reliance on Google services. The only Google app that I have installed (other than Android lol) is YouTube Vanced. I just wanted the player instead of the website, and I'm not even logging into it.
I'm also using Waze which apparently is owned by Google, but it does not rely on GMS at all. I do miss Google Maps a little, especially my custom maps and pins everywhere. Time will tell if I really need to come up with a workaround, but I'd rather not pollute my phone
Using mainly APKPure and APKMirror, I got all my apps back. Some apps throw Play Services error when trying to access some features, but overall they've retained all the functionality that I care about. I was never much of a "digitally connected/synced" person to begin with. I don't like logging into apps left and right or having them store my activity online, so maybe this switch is easier for me than others. I also never really used GMail for anything but Android related stuff, and I stopped using Microsoft/Outlook accounts in favor of Protonmail, once again trying to reduce my reliance on the tech giants.
Can we live without Google if they do not want us?
We can use the best phone without Google
My advise:
install Microsoft New Edge browser to notebook and sign in with your microsoft account. Do the same on P40 Pro. For Install, I use AppGallery, when app is not there I use APKPure. Some apps did not work if I used some other Store.
Install:
OneDrive - not only one of the best cloud drive, with this app you can upload photos to notebook and then forward to google photos from notebook.
Outlook - it can superb handle gmail AND google calendar. I have shared google calendars with my wife and kids. Outlook can do this. I do not know any other app that can do that.
Here we go - Excellent navigation. I have allways used Google Maps. It is the best. Period. But, as I daily drive 300+km, Maps often do not find the address. I then used app Here, wich did the job. We still can use Google Maps App, you only can not sign in to the app. In that case i have browser bookmark at home screen. So, with maps we are good covered. (there are more apps that are great, but this is enough)
Problem is with our Bank Apps.
I have accounts at 2 Banks, I am forced to have two, not big deal. My point here: One Bank work great over my browser. Confirmation number I get to SMS. It is not ideal, but it works.
Another bank use app that produce onetime code. There is not workaround with the browser.
I have solved that another way: my another Huawei (P smart Z). This phone can use GMS. I installed AirDroid to PsmartZ and all APPS that do not work on P40 Pro. Then, I installed AirMirror to P40 Pro. When needed, I can connect to P smart Z from anywhere, use that app and then close the connection.
Apps that do not work:
-Google apps where you have to sign in
-Microsoft Authenticator, Google Authenticator
-SmartRemote Bosch (unbelivable)
-Lidl, Lidl Plus (unbelivable)
-ChargeMap, ABRP
-DEĊ½ - simple but great rain radar picture here in Slovenia
What we need fast is ability to pay wih phone. Huawei must do more here.
But my bank have send me email, they are working on their banking app to work with new Huawei Phones, YESSSS!!
I will write more, I have run out of tint
I still do not understand, why google do not sell GMS online?
Google can not work with Huawei, but can sell software to me, or not?
Outook is really great app. It can sync google contacts!!!!!!
Good to know, If anybody need this.... I DO!!!!!
I posted some of this elsewhere but this feels like a good thread to put useful non GPS info into. I got my P40 Pro yesterday and am hoping to avoid GPS as it seems to be quite a complicated process that does not always stick and needs repeating regularly. Also the opportunity to de-google is actually quite tempting. Here is what I have found so far:
- My Lastpass, PayPal and banking apps work totally fine as before. What is interesting though is I saw some info that said that these work ok if you transfer using Phone Clone but may stop working if you then update them using other sources. I have another droid so will likely manage updates for these by Phone Clone
- Outlook seems to work ok for notifications but I am not sure they come through as regular as they should. I think it would be good to start a list of apps that do not rely on GPS to push notifications. Sadly Newton mail does
- Google photos is the hardest to replace seamlessly, Amazon photos should be a good alternative (if you have prime) but just seems to crash constantly. I have OneDrive but am still considering if I want to carry on using Google photos as my main photo repo, such a shame that DropBox stopped carousel as that was great!
- Chrome actually seems to work, you just cannot login.
If there are any fellow non-GPS people out there shared experiences appreciated!