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Real google apps in market all!!

Finally some real apps! Scoreboard that keeps track of all sports and picasa album that you can upload photos into. Loving it they both kick butt!!

there is a new one from Google for maps as well, Google maps editor. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it integrates into the map program- I cant pull up stuff I have pinned in the ap with the normal maps program.
I guess the thing I need to learn about android is that we dont really seem to have any plug-ins, just new programs to work alongside the current ones. It seems like google would have an extension, or plug-in that would work WITH maps.

I think Google rolling out a couple apps this late in the game is laughable. Personally, it seems like they've expected the advanced user to do it themselves and they're rolling out apps to appeal to the sidekick end of the spectrum. Anyone locked out of root at this point is feeling pretty butthurt I can imagine. Don't give me a scoreboard app, give me an application that will let me save apps to my sdcard. I can imagine if the latter isn't worked out, it could cause some frustration when they begin to charge for apps; i.e. hard reset= bye bye apps I paid for.
/rant

They probably have larger treams to work on the big stuff, like root. I think, more likeley that these are some of the "personal projects" Google employees are expected to work on.
As far as the hard reset issue, I expect that the market will keep a record of what you paid for so you can download things again as needed.

The My Maps Editor (which I can't find on the market???) is shown as that Google staff member's 20% work time. So while it;s released by Google, it's not actually an allocated Google Project.
Also, I'd say the Picasa app is a "plug-in" not an actual 'side-by-side' app.

gospeed.racer said:
there is a new one from Google for maps as well, Google maps editor. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it integrates into the map program- I cant pull up stuff I have pinned in the ap with the normal maps program.
I guess the thing I need to learn about android is that we dont really seem to have any plug-ins, just new programs to work alongside the current ones. It seems like google would have an extension, or plug-in that would work WITH maps.
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Yeah i hear you, its hard after all these years of being a wm user not to call them plugins. Will have to check out the maps editor one didn't even see it. If it doesn't work with maps then kinda defeats the purpose!

stats555 said:
Finally some real apps! Scoreboard that keeps track of all sports and picasa album that you can upload photos into. Loving it they both kick butt!!
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It's just a name of developer. You can register a company name when register an develop account.

Well, even if "Google, inc" isn't the real Google, they have by far the most polished looking and working apps of anyone else listed in the market that I have seen yet. I dont even need or use Scoreboard, but I still downloaded it and I am very impressed with the workings. Good for impressing friends

no need google!!!

I have the Huawei p40 pro for 2 months. I installed all my apps using Aoura store, everything works great, no issues. I tried to install the Google services, it was hell to get it work but the results make me reset my phone and went back to Aoura. 3 things you need to know about google services to this phone:
1.you need to downgrade to 131 firmware, it was hell to do that!
2.battery drain with google services!!!!!
3.no whatsapp, gmail, outlook notifications!!!

avivasaf said:
I have the Huawei p40 pro for 2 months. I installed all my apps using Aoura store, everything works great, no issues. I tried to install the Google services, it was hell to get it work but the results make me reset my phone and went back to Aoura. 3 things you need to know about google services to this phone:
1.you need to downgrade to 131 firmware, it was hell to do that!
2.battery drain with google services!!!!!
3.no whatsapp, gmail, outlook notifications!!!
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It was easy to got back to .131, I did from .147. I installed Google services etc then updated to Aug security patch .154. I have wattsapp and outlook notification but I don't use Gmail so can't comment on that. While it was a pain to get G services on I'm glad I did as now my banking apps work in the UK, the only thing I miss is contactless payments from the phone.

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It was easy to got back to .131, I did from .147. I installed Google services etc then updated to Aug security patch .154. I have wattsapp and outlook notification but I don't use Gmail so can't comment on that. While it was a pain to get G services on I'm glad I did as now my banking apps work in the UK, the only thing I miss is contactless payments from the phone.
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All my banking apps works well in Israel, no need for google for that, you don't feel battery drain?

avivasaf said:
All my banking apps works well in Israel, no need for google for that, you don't feel battery drain?
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Battery drain may be an issue. I don´t know, as I use google framework etc on this phone since the beginning. And for sure it will not drain the battery more than on other devices and negliable in contrast to "screen on apps" as youtube, for instance.. or gaming....
During the night my device drains about 2% of battery capacity (within 7-8hrs); I can deal with that. Everything else depends on how you use your device.
Regarding your first post, google services have nothing to do with whatsapp. Furthermore downgrading by hisuite proxy ist pretty easy and notifications work, at least for me.
But you are right. Aurora store is fantastic. I use it for all apps except for those I paid for. And it is nice to be independent from google, but...
my reasons why I finally installed the google services:
1, I wanted my paid apps back (e.g poweramp, SD Maid pro, Windfinder pro etc).
2, in app purchases, if necessary in future.
3, I have all my contacts and calendar on my google account and and i'm glad that all my data in this regard is automatically synchronized with my phone again.
4, Google map implementation and some other stuff... now all apps working again.
Of course I can live without google services, especially as I´m a friend of debloating as much as possible. Maybe I will change my decision in future. It´s a nice idea to be independent from google (or apple).... as much as possible.

For someone like me, I need some amount of GMS. For example, my city's bike share and car share programs require GMS. Unfortunately, I cannot get either of them working with the solutions for GMS so far.

potsykate said:
It was easy to got back to .131, I did from .147. I installed Google services etc then updated to Aug security patch .154. I have wattsapp and outlook notification but I don't use Gmail so can't comment on that. While it was a pain to get G services on I'm glad I did as now my banking apps work in the UK, the only thing I miss is contactless payments from the phone.
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Man if I turn back to .131 is it enough to use lzplay or do I have to begin the manual installation?
Do you have a guide?
Thank you

No option at the moment to install google services Google blocked all ways to do that.

how is it possible to downgrade to 131?
All guides are so confusing, especially in the proxy thing
is there any step by step guide?

Question buying for use in usa, have questions

so i ordered one of these. love cameras and this seems to be a great pocket camera/smartphone. since it isn’t a usa destined product, does anyone with experience know what i’m in for? my questions are setup, will google apps be preinstalled, like the play store and google photos? will i get security updates?
any help is greatly appreciated.

elwuero said:
so i ordered one of these. love cameras and this seems to be a great pocket camera/smartphone. since it isn’t a usa destined product, does anyone with experience know what i’m in for? my questions are setup, will google apps be preinstalled, like the play store and google photos? will i get security updates?
any help is greatly appreciated.
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Well vivo, from which place are you buying it from?
Ive seen the phone before, if its from India then it would have google apps etc.
And you would get security updates and you would have google photos.
In my mind, only China imported phones don't have google services sometimes.

Kenora_I said:
Well vivo, from which place are you buying it from?
Ive seen the phone before, if its from India then it would have google apps etc.
And you would get security updates and you would have google photos.
In my mind, only China imported phones don't have google services sometimes.
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uh oh, I ordered it from Hong Kong. fingers crossed then. should have asked here first.

Welllllll, its probably likely theres no google services, but when you get it just post a thread if you don't have it and tag me. Ill try to help you install the global version of the rom on it.

Yeah china banned google atuff with google play so your best bet is to wait till uou recieve it and flash the global rom or you should cancel and choose smth else.

Kenora_I said:
Welllllll, its probably likely theres no google services, but when you get it just post a thread if you don't have it and tag me. Ill try to help you install the global version of the rom on it.
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Can you explain how to install funtouch os firmware?

Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.

PoochieMama said:
Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.
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thanks for all that info. mine is currently in transit to me. i feel much better after reading your comments. i love taking pictures and that is my main reason for getting this phone. will for sure reach out with questions if needed after I get it.

You won't regret it. This phone just captures perfect photos. Even in comparisson to the samsung s21 ultra. My opinion (and my wife with a s21 ultra).
Some things are annyoing but i can live with it. I mean, I can even do phone calls
Just a night shot from now 2 a.m. - it's dark outside and this camera manages to capture photos like its late afternoon...

PoochieMama said:
You won't regret it. This phone just captures perfect photos. Even in comparisson to the samsung s21 ultra. My opinion (and my wife with a s21 ultra).
Some things are annyoing but i can live with it. I mean, I can even do phone calls
Just a night shot from now 2 a.m. - it's dark outside and this camera manages to capture photos like its late afternoon...
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you better get to sleep!

PoochieMama said:
Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.
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Oh google play services are preinstalled?
That's actually new to me.
Sorry, I guess I was kind of misleading with google being removed. It was banned in china but I did not know that google play services still worked.

I received it on Friday. Chinese version definitely. But Google Play Store already installed. I downloaded all the normal Google apps like Android Messages, Chrome, Contacts & Calendar and they all seem to be perfect. Thinking now, I didn’t download Maps yet. There was an originOS update available and a couple of apps had their own also, like I believe the Camera app. So I'm relieved that updates do come through.
First impressions are positive. It is sleek. Kind of nice how it comes with a screen protector pre installed and it comes with a pretty nice back cover.
I "had to have" this because like I said I love taking photos. Just for reference I have a Sony Xperia 1 ii (for sale on ebay), a Galaxy S21 Ultra (going back to Amazon) and a 12 Pro Max. I shot a lot of photos today with the X60 Pro+. They are all nice. A couple though came out tremendously well. I think to get similar photos I would have had to get my Sony a7C or Sigma fp with a fast 85mm to get the same shot. I for sure would not have gotten the same quality from my other smartphones.
Anyways I don’t think I will try to get the global software on this. Seems like I'll be good.

PoochieMama said:
Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.
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Hi from Austria perfect Summary i totally agree with you, i am happy with the China version, for that price ~ 750€ you will get nice hardware, OriginOS is also nice, i like the gesture navigation, but im missing google maps location history so much, there is some restriction on China for google services, because china dont want to be tracked by usa google... other brands from china have same issue with location history.
I found in this thread with some fix for rooted phones to enable ROM to use location history:
Ennable Google Maps Location Sharing & Location History on Chinese MIUI ROM
You need Magisk properly installed on your ROM and then download & install the following modules:
Releases · fei-ke/unlock-cn-gms
去除国行 GMS 某些限制. Contribute to fei-ke/unlock-cn-gms development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
[Magisk module] Google location history unlock for Chinese MIUI roms only
Hi, posting my Magisk mod that I am using since couple of years. This mod works and testen on K20 pro, Note 7 Pro and K30 Pro Zoom Edition. What does it do? It enabled Google location History in Google maps. This is only needed for Chinese roms...
forum.xda-developers.com
maybe @Kenora_I can help us to flash Global Rom from India... hopefully without brickung our phones
@Kenora_I is it possible to flash Global Rom with banking apps working to pay with nfc ?
best regards

Hello Everyone.
I am about to buy this phone but still having some doubts because of the OriginOS. I live in New Zealand. Just would like to ask a couple of questions:
- does it allow to install and use Nova Launcher with gestures?
- is this notification bar and settings bar changeable or at least can set up some gestures for that? Otherwise it requires to touch the top edge of the phone which is not perfect for me
- notifications are visible in Always on Display from FB, whats up, non stock phone or messages apps or not at all?
- does anyone use that with company portal and MS Authenticator? and its working fine?
- how is the battery life - roughly SOT?
I will be really grateful for any help!
Thank you!
Peter

calibra71207 said:
Hello Everyone.
I am about to buy this phone but still having some doubts because of the OriginOS. I live in New Zealand. Just would like to ask a couple of questions:
- does it allow to install and use Nova Launcher with gestures?
- is this notification bar and settings bar changeable or at least can set up some gestures for that? Otherwise it requires to touch the top edge of the phone which is not perfect for me
- notifications are visible in Always on Display from FB, whats up, non stock phone or messages apps or not at all?
- does anyone use that with company portal and MS Authenticator? and its working fine?
- how is the battery life - roughly SOT?
I will be really grateful for any help!
Thank you!
Peter
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Relevant for me too!

AG7447 said:
Relevant for me too!
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Since nobody wants to answer, I will, but I don't use X60 pro+. I have IQOO and had x50 pro+ and therefore the answer can't fail a lot.
1. I didn't try Nova, but I installed Star Prime and it works with gestures as long as you don't uninstall original launcher.
2. Not that I'm aware of.
3. Don't use unsecure apps, but the custom dialer and messages are supported on AOD.
4. Don't use work portal, but there is no reason to not work.
5. Battery is good, one day with heavy use, two with moderate.

So very frustrated and sad.

As per the title, I tried to live with this phone, (3 months) but alas without Google it's dead in the water. It's hardware is fantastic.
But the lack of GMS kills it.
I will be trading it in shortly.

What do you need to do with it and it doesn't work?
Except for some banking applications, for payments via NFC (for this you can use Curve or iCard), and Android Auto, what do you want to use and can't?
WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, Google photos, Signal, Telegram, Maps, Waze, YahooMail (own application, E-mail, work fine too, with Gmail or Yahoo mail account), YouTube Vanced, all work fine ...

I get what you mean but it's just not that great a mobile without GMS.
At least not for me.
The Huawei store is just not that good an alternative. If it were as good as the hardware I would agree but sadly I cannot.
Such a shame, another great mobile crippled by politics.

I still don't understand what you want to use on it and you can't ...
As alternative store you can use APKMirror, APKPure, Aptoide and many other app stores.
If you constantly use payments by phone (NFC) or Android Auto, yes, then I understand the dissatisfaction of not being able to use them.
Otherwise ...
LE: For the NFC payments, I installed Curve, probably tomorrow I will make the first payment, for the test. There are already mates who said that it works without problems (Curve or iCard).

Shymmy said:
I still don't understand what you want to use on it and you can't ...
As alternative store you can use APKMirror, APKPure, Aptoide and many other app stores.
If you constantly use payments by phone (NFC) or Android Auto, yes, then I understand the dissatisfaction of not being able to use them.
Otherwise ...
LE: For the NFC payments, I installed Curve, probably tomorrow I will make the first payment, for the test. There are already mates who said that it works without problems (Curve or iCard).
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Totally agree, life without Google is sweet, and if... If really can't find what you looking for there's Aurora Store and Gspace, love my mate 40 Pro!

Right, I forgot to mention Aurora, this is the main store that I use.
Instead of Gspace I use Ourplay, it's more functional.

I keep Google play Services disabled most of the time. I use it for gmail and Gmaps.
Keeping it disabled saves me 2%@hour SOT!
Lol, Playstore been offline for over a month and it's being hard to fix so I ignore it.
Really Gmaps is the only thing I really need of all the Gookill junk to run, Gmail can be accessed online. I rarely use gmaps.
Google is junkware.
You can use another phone to download Playwhore apps then use ApkExport to make installable copies for the Google free phone.
Be glad you're Gookill free
Find workarounds and be happy!

For Gmail and Yahoo accounts, I use Yahoo mail (without notifications) and Huawei own app, Email app (here I can receive notifications).
Maps works fine too, without login option if I' m talking about normal instalation, and with login option if I'm talking about app installed on Ourplay.

I have had p40 pro since launch and been using the google apps a lot. today they stopped working. I am not happy about it. yes there are alternatives, but i truly dont want them. I dont want to use Waze for public transport or for walking from A to B. At least i have vance but that takes forever to load sometimes. I am just fed up of this

What doesn't work anymore, exactly?
No Google apps?
I understand you have GMS installed on your phone ... or not?
Maps should work ok; on phones without GMS you do not have the possibility to log in, if you want this facility you can use it in Ourplay, it works very well there.
Have you done any upgrades recently (sistem or apps) and since then the respective applications no longer work?
Give more details ... possibly also the version number of the respective application.

Shymmy said:
What do you need to do with it and it doesn't work?
Except for some banking applications, for payments via NFC (for this you can use Curve or iCard), and Android Auto, what do you want to use and can't?
WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, Google photos, Signal, Telegram, Maps, Waze, YahooMail (own application, E-mail, work fine too, with Gmail or Yahoo mail account), YouTube Vanced, all work fine ...
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I don't use Android auto and payment apps but over these I have multiple problems without GMS:
- company tools: teams, mobileiron doesn't work
- play store paid app missing full functionality: onvier, aodnotify pro, VPN client pro (for TAP VPN connection), etc
- most of apps (even those that available in appgallery too) using google apis. so they works but you cannot get notifications, or facing other functional deficiency (typically banking apps, but almost every app)
- I'm local guide on google maps, but cannot login.
I don't trust unknown chinese apps like Gspace and Ourplay furthermore the notifications doesn't work properly.
In this year I used Samsung Galaxy S21+, Xiaomi Mi11 ultra and Huawei Mate 40 pro. the mate 40 Pro would be far best from this trio if it would have GMS.

For me it's a nonsense here.
I buy and I use a chinese phone, but I don't have trust on chineze apps ...
If we remember well, even Play Store (by Google) had problems with some apps (with viruses and other things).
Everyone talks about Google and / or Samsung and how much they spy, but we are only bothered by Huawei or some applications, just because they are Chinese.
I'm not Chinese, I don't raise statues for them, but I think the situation is crazy.

I am in the same boat here with a Mate 40 Pro. How is everyone getting around using banking apps on your Mate 40 Pro? Is sideloading or use them in ourplay considered safe? That is probably the only thing I am missing on Mate.

There are banking applications that work normally and applications that do not work at all.
Usually they don't work through Ourplay either ...
Payment can only be made via NFC through certain applications, such as Curve or iCard.

Well gentlemen,
I have traded mine in for a Xiaomi.
The mate is a fantastic phone with a tragic software problem, (at least for me) I do so hope this situation is resolved.......

Same here. The problem is that government APP and bank APP need GMS, otherwise they just refuse to run.

Czytam te skargi i nie odchodzę od nich. Mam Mate 40 Pro i wszystko, czego potrzebuję, mam na telefonie. Mam 2 aplikacje bankowe i płatności telefonicznie 2 polskie banki (mBank i PKO BP). Android auto nie działa, ale jestem bardzo zadowolony z Petal Maps i od dawna nie myślałem o korzystaniu z Google Map. Trochę i wymiana AA również będzie.

Shymmy said:
What do you need to do with it and it doesn't work?
Except for some banking applications, for payments via NFC (for this you can use Curve or iCard), and Android Auto, what do you want to use and can't?
WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, Google photos, Signal, Telegram, Maps, Waze, YahooMail (own application, E-mail, work fine too, with Gmail or Yahoo mail account), YouTube Vanced, all work fine ...
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Hi I have issue can't login to my local banking apps because keyboard cover login button , is there any idea how to hide keyboard so that I can login..Many Thanks

I have very very very rarely encountered this problem. It always gets fixed by hiding and re opening the keyboard. Otherwise check if you have changed any parameters in the keyboard app, like size and behaviour.

My (short) time without GMS

I wanted to give my experience of using the Mate 40 Pro without Google Services as I believe it's interesting. I get a little obsessed when I can't have something I'm used to having, and am happy to bootloader unlock or otherwise hack my phone to get GMS working like I did with my previous phone, the great Huawei P40 Pro. Don't get me wrong, compromises are required but what can it do or not do.
I should start by detailing what I normally do with a phone.
I use the normal social media apps, WhatsApp, FB, FB Messenger, Reddit, Discord and Twitter. I watch YouTube videos, listen to Spotify, Apple Music, have a few light games, nothing intensive, have a few email clients one for work (Outlook) and one for personal email (Spark - because I like the way it works with multiple accounts). I also use it for banking, food delivery services and shopping with Amazon, eBay etc. I would use the phone for occasional Android Auto duties and route guidance using Google maps. Finally I of course browse the Web. So all in all I would guess that's fairly a normal usage scenario.
First off I should say that of the above list I can do all of that with my Mate 40 Pro. With the exception of Android Auto. But not always as convenient as I could.
Now I've already given a hint at my tech level so I'm not an average consumer and this phone cannot be used to its fullest by your average end user.
Using Phone Clone to setup the phone I have most of my apps working. Notable exceptions are ebay, YouTube and Google Pay. I keep my apps up to date using Aurora Store and try to avoid using the Huawei App Store for anything.
What have I done about ebay and YouTube? I use the web versions. They are fine for my needs, just not quite as convenient as the apps.
Google Pay was something I didn't want to continue to be blocked from using (obviously the P40 Pro even with GMS installed couldn't use Google Pay) so I ended up replacing it with Curve. This app / account provides NFC payments across all your banking cards as well as storing all your loyalty cards too. So almost a direct replacement for Google Pay.
As for Android Auto, that's the one thing I haven't been able to sort out a replacement for but I'm lucky enough to have sat nav in the car which works with the HUD (Android Auto didn't) and using the phone as a wireless hotspot and streaming audio over Bluetooth audio I'm not missing it at all.
It's not perfect but with a little effort it's a lot better than expected. Obviously everyone's mileage will vary.
With all that said, how long will I keep the phone for? No idea, I'm already eying up an Honor Magic 4 Pro but also prepared to consider future Huawei devices.

I'm now selling my Mate 40 pro after over a year of use easily been the best phone that I've owned, changed to a Mi 11 Ultra - First things of note are adverts everywhere, nothing much on the Mate. Like you any apps that don't work then over to the web apps although not sure why ebay doesn't work for you as it does for me (except notifications). The Honor Magic 4 Pro isn't a better device than the Mate (unless GMS is what you want back) the Ultimate version might be a different kettle of fish though, but that sounds like a China only release.

@gnasher666: For Android Auto you can use AAwireless, and for YouTube can still use YouTube vanced, with logging option (even they have stopped it's support, you can still find the apk).

Shymmy said:
@gnasher666: For Android Auto you can use AAwireless, and for YouTube can still use YouTube vanced, with logging option (even they have stopped it's support, you can still find the apk).
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AAwireless, is that the box you buy?

Yes.
I have a friend who bought something like this, he said it works fine.
He recently said he changed it and bought something more expensive, I don't know exactly what he got now.

No phone can really replace the Mate 40 Pro, the camera is just way too good.
I'm looking forward to importing the Magic 4 Pro Ultimate or buying any worthy phone, since all phones that released in this year are not good at all.

Derpling said:
No phone can really replace the Mate 40 Pro, the camera is just way too good.
I'm looking forward to importing the Magic 4 Pro Ultimate or buying any worthy phone, since all phones that released in this year are not good at all.
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I'm very interested in the Magic 4 Pro Ultimate too. Honor are suggesting it may have a global release at some point.

If you don't mind the missing push notifications,
you can still get most apps (not google related apps) via APKPure (which will be genuine apps and they do provide SHA256 checksum, but I believe you will do the hashing checksum again by yourself)
Ebay, bank apps, everything I need works just great