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Sharing my experience with a Chinese version Mate 20 Pro

So I finally received my Chinese version Mate 20 Pro Emerald variant and I spent the last 24 hours setting it up, now it's finally getting into a more or less stock android feeling. I decided to write a post because man, I've never spent so much effort just trying to setup a new phone.
Ordering
I ordered the phone from Huawei T Mall store on Nov. 11th. I paid about 1250 CAD through Alipay for the phone and ~ 600 RMB having my friend sending it to me via DHL. I also had to pay some import tax getting it into Canada but it's just bad luck, plus the tax really depends on how much you declare the value to be.
First Impression
I had a Oneplus 5, I like the cleanness of its ROM, it's close to stock android and I was using the Rootless Pixel 2 Launcher which makes it essentially a stock Android device. The Mate 20 Pro is a bit heavier than the Oneplus 5 and it's just slightly bigger.
I started with applying the tempered glass screen protectors I bought also from Taobao when I ordered the phone. Sadly I can't seem to get it in the right place, and it's greatly affecting the screen responsiveness and accuracy. I ended up throwing them away.
Turning it on, and I'm already having issue with the initial setup process. First of all, I was asked to create a Huawei ID. But guess what -- I live in Canada but Canada isn't an available option in the region list, somehow US is. I mean, this phone is not even available in US, why would you provide that as an option but not Canada?
I went ahead choosing US as the region. It asked for phone verification, that worked for me because US and Canada share the same country code.
After that, I uninstall a bunch of pre-installed apps -- they are mostly popular apps in China, plus a few useless utilities made by Huawei. I uninstall about 25 apps during this process.
Then I tried to restore all my apps from the old phone, first step would be getting Google Play Service working. Surprisingly Google Play Service is pre-installed. but I wasn't able to update it through the Huawei App Store, because US Huawei ID apparently is not supported. In fact I can't use any of the pre-installed Huawei apps, they are all blocked. So I deleted my account and created a Chinese one instead.
I was able to access the app store and update Google Play Service, along with Play Store. Google backup apparently didn't work. I ended up using the Huawei "Phone Clone" app to transfer all my stuff to this phone. It does the job pretty well.
Getting third party launcher working on Chinese ROM (If you have a global version then this may not apply to you)
Spent sometime getting all the apps logged in and tweaking settings, I started to look into replacing the stock launcher. But then you can't change launcher on the Chinese rom, so I did some research and here is what I did:
1. Install a third party launcher. I chose Nova Launcher here. Never used it before but Rootless Launcher kept crashing and for Rootless Pixel 2 Launcher, there is an annoying security alert saying "Google is using microphone" that kept popping up.
1. Enable developer mode
2. Enable USB Debug
3. Connect the phone to PC
4. Access ADB shell
5. uninstall stock launch: pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
6. Reboot
A few notes on using this 3rd party launcher hack:
* I also installed the Nova companion app to have Google Feed panel access.
* You need to allow Nova companion to auto-launch in Settings -> Apps -> App Launch, otherwise rebooting the phone will make Google Feed panel disappear.
* If you select gesture navigation in system setting, swiping up from bottom may not work.
Getting Google Assistant to work
The phone has the Huawei voice assistant by default, and changing the default Assistant app to Google doesn't work. The shortcut still only bring up the Huawei voice assistant. The fix is to uninstall the app using the same process above. The package name is com.huawei.vassistant. After reboot, I was able to access Google Assistant using the home button (I still prefer three key navigation). "OK Google" doesn't work on Home screen though.
Make sure push notifications are working
I also noticed I don't receive push notifications most of the time. For example, I have Duo Mobile which is used as an authenticator at work. Having the screen on, I didn't receive the push notification. I had to launch the app manually to see the authentication request. Here is a workaround:
1. Settings -> Apps -> App Launch
2. Find the app you wish to receive push notification
3. Disable auto manage, it will ask you how you want to manage manually, choose Auto-launch and Run in Background at least
Known Issues/Todo list
Here are some of the things that I'm having issue with but haven't figured out a solution yet. Please let me know if you know a solution to any of them:
1. Google Pay Contactless does not work. This is almost a deal breaker. From what I've read, it seems to be just Chinese version doesn't work.
1. LastPass accessibility setting gets reverted to off randomly. This seems to related to when I close all apps using the trashcan button on recent apps screen.
2. Default Assistant app setting mysteriously gets reset to None. Still don't understand why.
3. Text in the notification just look so bad. Also not sure how to tweak that.
4. The security alert for app using microphone keeps popping up in Google Assist and Google Feed. I'm not sure how I should feel about that...
Things I like about this device
1. Chinese version supported dual SIM. I believe the global version does not.
2. photos in low lights are awesome.
3. charging is super fast! I also got the wireless charging thing.
4. I'm happy with its battery performance so far.
5. It's a faster device overall. The games I play run smoother on this phone comparing to Oneplus 5. I understand OP5 is an older phone but that's the only reference point I got.
That's what I had so far. I'm also keeping an eye on the progress of FunkyHuawei Mate 20 Pro support -- I'm looking forward to flash the global version ROM hoping it has better google integration and less chinese-oriented useless "features".
Hope it helps!

Thanks for sharing

Does the device show as being certified in the Google Play Store? If not, this would probably explain why contactless via GP doesn't work

Minotaur said:
Does the device show as being certified in the Google Play Store? If not, this would probably explain why contactless via GP doesn't work
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Yes it shows as certified in playstore.

henexekrar said:
Yes it shows as certified in playstore.
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Hmmm interesting... is there an error message or such that might indicate why GPay doesn't work?

Minotaur said:
Hmmm interesting... is there an error message or such that might indicate why GPay doesn't work?
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when attempting to enable contactless, the following messages appear in order:
contacting your bank...
your bank is verifying your card...
added feature cannot be setup. contact your bank to resolve this issue.
I called the bank and they said they didn't get the request so they don't know what error it is.
I contacted Google and haven't got a response.

Did you already have the card in your GPay wallet, and were re-verifying, or did you add it from scratch? Guessing it may not make a difference though.

Minotaur said:
Did you already have the card in your GPay wallet, and were re-verifying, or did you add it from scratch? Guessing it may not make a difference though.
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I had the card in the wallet for a long time. Used it with my old phone without issue.

Does it support Band 66? Thanks
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I was in China last week and almost bought the Mate 20 Pro. After reading many reviews I decided to not buy the Chinese Version and pay a little more to get the Google version from Hong Kong

Any updates?
Were you able to find any way to get LastPass working properly?
Accessibility features keep resetting for me right away.

Hi, have your version finger-id? I bought a mate 20 pro red in aliexpress but i can't find the finger-id......

John_nl_74 said:
Hi, have your version finger-id? I bought a mate 20 pro red in aliexpress but i can't find the finger-id......
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The LYA-AL00 with 6 GM RAM and 128 GB storage has no fingerprint sensor. It only uses face, pattern, and password unlock.

Chinese Rom Down Sides for Global Use

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on a 256/8 varient of the k20 pro with the intention of just using the phone as daily with the Chinese Rom in A urope ,I know there will be other roMs but I just can't be arsed with all the modding about,getting too old and too busy to be messing,but love the look of the phone specs etc
Is there any downsides to using the Chinese rom,Im happy enough with the lack of band 20 and I understand the phone will get OTAs and there is English support
Are there any other problems besides the bloat which should be easy to remove, bit of fiddling for play store too I think
Should all apps work ok etc or anything else I should look out for

I think Europe version should be mi 9t pro, if you want to flash Chinese stock room, unlock bootloader first, fastboot flash Chinese full package

tenshikurabu said:
I think Europe version should be mi 9t pro, if you want to flash Chinese stock room, unlock bootloader first, fastboot flash Chinese full package
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No no no,read my post before giving a reply, I was enquiring about the Chinese rom,the kind of disadvantages to using it in Europe because there is no 9T pro,no global rom as yet

Im using it Croatia, there is lack of the band 20 and you manually must instal google playstore and services. Other than than that there arent any dissadvantages

A friend that had chinese miui on mi8, told me that he had some problems with gps, and also it would have low signal strength, and those where fixed with global rom.

Gps works fine, and signal strength depends on coverage off cell towers. I can say that it has same signal strength as poco atleast where i live.

ef1x said:
Gps works fine, and signal strength depends on coverage off cell towers. I can say that it has same signal strength as poco atleast where i live.
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I would imagine GPS is particularly good with the new dual band GPS it has.

i'm more less in the same page, im eager to buy the Chinese version, but not sure if i wont give up of B28, coz its make a lot of diff here in Brazil.
Do you guys think this band will be available for future update, like previously happened to Mi9, it didnt have band 28, but its got now. Maybe its only software dependent, right?

No Google Keyboard (English) in China ROM K20 Pro
I could not see the Google Keyboard that can be used across apps even after installing the Google Services in my K20 Pro Chinese Version.

i am also in your situation , i can't understand why there isn't a k20 pro chinese rom review to explain exactly which are in DETAILS the difference , we know about play store etc
@GANESHBRUCE can't you you install any keyboard from play store ? (including google keyboard) ?

I wanted a chinese rom device,but ended up buying a k20pro with fake indian rom.can i flash chinese rom without a issue?

I bought the the Chinese rom 256/8 and I the amount of bloatware is insane! At least I have uninstalled 30 apps, some can't be installed, this was a turn off for me, but now I just have to live with it. Other things all good all fine.
But I want to ask experts here, is there any privacy issue with the Chinese ROM? With this amount of apps I feel like they have all kind of data monitoring just to shove their adds in my face, so is there anything I must do? Block something or stop specific service?

One can use the Chinese ROM without any flashing but you have to live with some Xiaomi app and some minor Chinese in some places even after switching to English.
There are no major issues as far as I know.
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aamer_it said:
I bought the the Chinese rom 256/8 and I the amount of bloatware is insane! At least I have uninstalled 30 apps, some can't be installed, this was a turn off for me, but now I just have to live with it. Other things all good all fine.
But I want to ask experts here, is there any privacy issue with the Chinese ROM? With this amount of apps I feel like they have all kind of data monitoring just to shove their adds in my face, so is there anything I must do? Block something or stop specific service?
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Third party app paid Xiaomi a price for their apps to be pre-installed. The only ad coming through may only be from Xiaomi MIUI.

I've used it for a week and everything worked just fine, there was some cool features that only works in chinese rom wich was MI AI wich pre loads apps and its basically like google assistant (pre loading apps was cool), it had a special keyboard only for inputing passwords and there's more! the downside was because i installed google play store by an apk (maybe if you install gapps.org it fixes it) it coudn't sync my contacts and other things (real big problem for me) and besides the stupid chinese apps there's some MIUI apps that doesn't change with the language like the calendar and others i don't remember...
Try it for youself, at the moment i'm using mi globe rom, wich is based of the chinese rom + features and debloated.

NXxR said:
I've used it for a week and everything worked just fine, there was some cool features that only works in chinese rom wich was MI AI wich pre loads apps and its basically like google assistant (pre loading apps was cool), it had a special keyboard only for inputing passwords and there's more! the downside was because i installed google play store by an apk (maybe if you install gapps.org it fixes it) it coudn't sync my contacts and other things (real big problem for me) and besides the stupid chinese apps there's some MIUI apps that doesn't change with the language like the calendar and others i don't remember...
Try it for youself, at the moment i'm using mi globe rom, wich is based of the chinese rom + features and debloated.
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You need to install calendar and contact sync apk and ensure autostart is enabled to sync.

GANESHBRUCE said:
I could not see the Google Keyboard that can be used across apps even after installing the Google Services in my K20 Pro Chinese Version.
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You can download GBoard (Google Keyboard) from the Playstore and set it as your Default keyboard in Settings.

I used it for a while but had to switch to the India ROM (kinda Global I guess).
Honestly the English version of the China ROM (stock) was fine with me but Google Home wasn't working fine because it mixed up English and French (phone was in English/ Google Home in French), my wife couldn't use it because she doesn't speak English. The other downside was the MI "Browser" being launched by default for all external apps including GMail, very annoying for me.
Other than that everything was working fine, and I liked being able to see the new features (like the new multiple shot in the camera not available in India). The bloatware was kind of ok with me, except MI AI which was sometimes confused with Google Assistant by the phone in certain apps/ devices (Bluetooth).

GANESHBRUCE said:
I could not see the Google Keyboard that can be used across apps even after installing the Google Services in my K20 Pro Chinese Version.
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Uncheck using Mi Secured Keyboard in the settings.

can someone of you tell me if there is Netflix on the Playstore in the china stable rom ? i know he has L3 widevine but i wanna be sure i can use last APK version without any issue. i'm fine with 540p quality of L3.
thanks

There's life without GMS

I was hesitant to buy P40 Pro (I had P30 pro) because of a lack of GMS. But I am spontaneous and had a birthday... and both one
My first observations:
+Great camera - especially zoom one!
+video is better
+Has double tap to wake up, boy how I missed this I disabled it - too many self unlocks
+Fast!
+UFS 3 is a lot faster internal storage than 2 on P30 - downloading pictures is 2x faster over WiFi
-the screen is a bit darker than P30's?
-this huge cutout on a screen for useless (for me!) 3D camera
-has pre-applied screen protector I removed it and now is fine
-The wide camera is 18mm instead of 16mm in P30 Pro
- battery last shorter time
more + and - will come as I use it from 5 h
Now about missing services - phone clone app is by far the best cloning solution I ever used - in 5 minutes I had an almost exact copy of my P30!!! Minus Google Chrome and something else, I can't remember I miss Chrome but for now, with some minor hiccups, FireFox is filling the gap! Chrome is the best I installed it
All apps I use are up and running for the moment - future updates I need to figure it out how to backup calendar? - The internal backup app is doing the job remain to be seen restore if needed
In General, I am happy with it, only time can prove me wrong

Thanks for sharing your experiences! Still doubting to buy this phone. Chromecast and lack of Strava are the only things really holding me back at the moment.
Chrome I never use anyway (Firefox preview is nice!), I suppose Brave Browder doesn't work either? Or does it?

MajestyZ said:
Thanks for sharing your experiences! Still doubting to buy this phone. Chromecast and lack of Strava are the only things really holding me back at the moment.
Chrome I never use anyway (Firefox preview is nice!), I suppose Brave Browder doesn't work either? Or does it?
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Today using apkmirror I instaled chrome and google gallery - they work thou cant make chrome sign in with my account

Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.

MajestyZ said:
Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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I tried APKPure installing google Duo but Duo can't connect for some reason (GMS? )

pesho00 said:
I was hesitant to buy P40 Pro (I had P30 pro) because of a lack of GMS. But I am spontaneous and had a birthday... and both one
My first observations:
+Great camera - especially zoom one!
+Has double tap to wake up, boy how I missed this
+Fast!
-the screen is a bit darker than P30's?
-this huge cutout on a screen for useless (for me!) 3D camera
-has preaplied screen protector
-Wide camera is 18mm instead of 16mm in P30 Pro
more + and - will come as I use it from 5 h
Now about missing services - phone clone app is by far the best cloning solution I ever used - in 5 minutes I had almost exact copy of my P30!!! Minus Google Chrome and something else, I can't remember I miss Chrome but for now, with some minor hiccups FireFox is filling the gap!
All apps I use are up and running for the moment - future updates I need to figure it out how to backup calendar?
In General I am happy with it, only time can prove me wrong
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check this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...s-live-gms-t4081351/post82258015#post82258015
you may be suprised how much more alternatives you can get and sometimes even much better

MajestyZ said:
Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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As I know from my friend, Netflix can stream HD on P40 Pro. Check again please

Huaweifans said:
As I know from my friend, Netflix can stream HD on P40 Pro. Check again please
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Where did he get the APK for Netflix? I can't find one on APK pure that works.

hpsauce37 said:
Where did he get the APK for Netflix? I can't find one on APK pure that works.
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Latest Apk on Apkmirror

Huaweifans said:
Latest Apk on Apkmirror
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Says not compatible with my device. I assume you need play services installed?

hpsauce37 said:
Says not compatible with my device. I assume you need play services installed?
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Show me the DRM Info on your P40 Pro please

Huaweifans said:
Show me the DRM Info on your P40 Pro please
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Of about 120 apps there's only 1 that i really need which I can't get to run (parklio, they rely on google for the login it seems).
I can easily replace the weather apps that won't work without google, a couple of apps like Banking keep complaining about missing google play services but still work.
Somehow it feels really good to be able to get rid of google in one way or another.

After some time of usage - updating apps seems to be an issue - I played Clash of clans for some years (nursing children accounts too ) and when moved to P40 everything seems to be ok BUT new version seems to be a problem - found the game in Amazon store - when tried to install it sais uninstall first - I'll lose all accounts after new version arrived tried again this time Amazon Instaled the game as e second version without accounts ....

I have all my apps and games without GMS. Just Sparkasse Bank in Germany haven't but in the future I believe that it will be solved.
And I'm happy without GMS. And my Handy is also happy without Googles devil in my phone.

Is there a chance to run the store and other applications without pop-up notifications? I have tried several articles but none of them remove notifications about the lack of certificates. After 30 minutes of attempts, google frimework id returns, I delete the old gsm application and install v2 but notifications like that are still there. Anyone have any idea or know the solution?

The P40 Pro has been a blessing in disguise. Challenging at first, it has been a great exercise to eliminate my reliance on Google services. The only Google app that I have installed (other than Android lol) is YouTube Vanced. I just wanted the player instead of the website, and I'm not even logging into it.
I'm also using Waze which apparently is owned by Google, but it does not rely on GMS at all. I do miss Google Maps a little, especially my custom maps and pins everywhere. Time will tell if I really need to come up with a workaround, but I'd rather not pollute my phone
Using mainly APKPure and APKMirror, I got all my apps back. Some apps throw Play Services error when trying to access some features, but overall they've retained all the functionality that I care about. I was never much of a "digitally connected/synced" person to begin with. I don't like logging into apps left and right or having them store my activity online, so maybe this switch is easier for me than others. I also never really used GMail for anything but Android related stuff, and I stopped using Microsoft/Outlook accounts in favor of Protonmail, once again trying to reduce my reliance on the tech giants.

Can we live without Google if they do not want us?
We can use the best phone without Google
My advise:
install Microsoft New Edge browser to notebook and sign in with your microsoft account. Do the same on P40 Pro. For Install, I use AppGallery, when app is not there I use APKPure. Some apps did not work if I used some other Store.
Install:
OneDrive - not only one of the best cloud drive, with this app you can upload photos to notebook and then forward to google photos from notebook.
Outlook - it can superb handle gmail AND google calendar. I have shared google calendars with my wife and kids. Outlook can do this. I do not know any other app that can do that.
Here we go - Excellent navigation. I have allways used Google Maps. It is the best. Period. But, as I daily drive 300+km, Maps often do not find the address. I then used app Here, wich did the job. We still can use Google Maps App, you only can not sign in to the app. In that case i have browser bookmark at home screen. So, with maps we are good covered. (there are more apps that are great, but this is enough)
Problem is with our Bank Apps.
I have accounts at 2 Banks, I am forced to have two, not big deal. My point here: One Bank work great over my browser. Confirmation number I get to SMS. It is not ideal, but it works.
Another bank use app that produce onetime code. There is not workaround with the browser.
I have solved that another way: my another Huawei (P smart Z). This phone can use GMS. I installed AirDroid to PsmartZ and all APPS that do not work on P40 Pro. Then, I installed AirMirror to P40 Pro. When needed, I can connect to P smart Z from anywhere, use that app and then close the connection.
Apps that do not work:
-Google apps where you have to sign in
-Microsoft Authenticator, Google Authenticator
-SmartRemote Bosch (unbelivable)
-Lidl, Lidl Plus (unbelivable)
-ChargeMap, ABRP
-DEŽ - simple but great rain radar picture here in Slovenia
What we need fast is ability to pay wih phone. Huawei must do more here.
But my bank have send me email, they are working on their banking app to work with new Huawei Phones, YESSSS!!
I will write more, I have run out of tint
I still do not understand, why google do not sell GMS online?
Google can not work with Huawei, but can sell software to me, or not?

Outook is really great app. It can sync google contacts!!!!!!
Good to know, If anybody need this.... I DO!!!!!

I posted some of this elsewhere but this feels like a good thread to put useful non GPS info into. I got my P40 Pro yesterday and am hoping to avoid GPS as it seems to be quite a complicated process that does not always stick and needs repeating regularly. Also the opportunity to de-google is actually quite tempting. Here is what I have found so far:
- My Lastpass, PayPal and banking apps work totally fine as before. What is interesting though is I saw some info that said that these work ok if you transfer using Phone Clone but may stop working if you then update them using other sources. I have another droid so will likely manage updates for these by Phone Clone
- Outlook seems to work ok for notifications but I am not sure they come through as regular as they should. I think it would be good to start a list of apps that do not rely on GPS to push notifications. Sadly Newton mail does
- Google photos is the hardest to replace seamlessly, Amazon photos should be a good alternative (if you have prime) but just seems to crash constantly. I have OneDrive but am still considering if I want to carry on using Google photos as my main photo repo, such a shame that DropBox stopped carousel as that was great!
- Chrome actually seems to work, you just cannot login.
If there are any fellow non-GPS people out there shared experiences appreciated!

European (C432) Mate 40 Pro native GMS for Google-login (non-root non-virtual) Euro-variant International [NOH-NX9]

I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Native Solutions (with push notifications, location services, google login):
None so far.
Virtual Machine environments:
Lighthouse (Only working for C636 region, not C432 euro-edition)
OurPlay (Chinese-only interface, but uses system languge for installed apps)
DualSpace (loses ability to install apps/updates after a day)
VMOS (old android v7, with virtual root and Xposed)
VPhoneGaGa (old Android v7, with virtual root)
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for the international version, so we can test properly. Because Google apps are what many of our coworkers, colleagues, and friends use we unfortunately can't just abandon them. Therefore, only solutions that work with login to Google services (not just GMS but actual Google authentication, like for Gmail, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Chat, Maps, Calendar, Photos, etc.) will be accepted.
Apparently MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's…
Contact app developers about publishing to the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
See how we can help figure out solutions
Share alternatives we are using to the Google(-dependent) services we have been locked in to (I will add best to this list)
Google Alternatives
Meet/Duo:
https://meet.jit.si/
Google Chat:
https://element.io/ (like Slack, MS Teams, Discord)
https://signal.org/ (like FB Messenger, WhatsApp)
Google Maps:
https://osmand.net/
Authenticator:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.shadowice.flocke.andotp/

I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one

Hi..
I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.

Do you have guidance on the last version of Maps ??
I have it just on 10.49.3 version ...

Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
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I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait

chortya said:
Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
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I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait
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Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.

That is a good statement. But the situation is as it is and simple peasant users like we are will not be able to change it

Any updates on this?

torickray said:
Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.
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Edit...

Still waiting.

Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.

daxter125 said:
I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one
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yes same feeling

Waiting game

banmao said:
Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.
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Same here

kxra said:
I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for international users who need to login to Google services (not just GMS but actual google authentication, like for Play Store, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Maps, Calendar, etc.) so we can test properly.
MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login apparently, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's:
Contact app develpoers about supporting the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
Share alternatives we are using to the Googele(-dependent) services we have been locked in to
See how we can help figure out solutions
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keep this up!

I've purchased Huawei Mate 40 Pro on yesterday, but seems like everyone is facing the same issue when installing GMS using Googlefier that lzplay show message in Chinese that it didn't support for this device. Maybe there's alternative way to reinstall the app again?

latif99 said:
Hi..
I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.
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but I never see solution that people downgrade (Mate 40 Pro) and install GMS

All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.

Shymmy said:
All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.
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It stil works on the Chinese version Mate40 Pro

I read in a video posted on youtube that a chinese app ourplay its like a chinese version of playstore installs gms for emui 11.
Tried installing the app the only problem is it you can only use the app with a china IP address so i couldnt fully verify if it works or not.
Anybody wanna try for mate 40 international phones?
Installer can be downloaded on their site ourplay.net

Question Setup Mi 11 Ultra

I got my phone earlier today from Giztop and reset the phone without thinking. It doesn't have the Google apps anymore. Is there as easy way to reset as a brand new phone from Giztop being setup for the US?

Try checking this out

Joeybagodonuts22 said:
I got my phone earlier today from Giztop and reset the phone without thinking. It doesn't have the Google apps anymore. Is there as easy way to reset as a brand new phone from Giztop being setup for the US?
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Don't bother installing gapps. It will never function normal. Best thing to do is BE PATIENT, unlock bootloader and flash EU or global rom.It will take 7 days but it will worth it. Chinese rom with externally installed gapps is not quite stable and it has too many clashes with chinese versions of the same program such as Get Apps Store which basically reminds you that it is there every time.

lord219 said:
Don't bother installing gapps. It will never function normal. Best thing to do is BE PATIENT, unlock bootloader and flash EU or global rom.It will take 7 days but it will worth it. Chinese rom with externally installed gapps is not quite stable and it has too many clashes with chinese versions of the same program such as Get Apps Store which basically reminds you that it is there every time.
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Chinese firmware is best one out there. I need google services as much as you do. After unboxing you already have basic google services (example to add Google account). All you have to do is download Play Store.
Chinese apps ? So easy to remove them (of course without root).
You saying "Get Apps Store" is not is not useful? Only from there you can update your system apps ! (Example: today I received update on "rear display". Many fixes in this update actually)
After all I realized I have everything I need. Phone with minimum Google background processing, but with full support of anything i want. 3-4% battery drain overnight lmao...is very respectful. (Stock Root it/Adaway)
And yes enjoy your EU rom with micro lags in open/close apps and luck of 120Hz in many places.
Global is old firmware and loaded with google bloatware in a system.

avetny said:
Chinese firmware is best one out there. I need google services as much as you do. After unboxing you already have basic google services (example to add Google account). All you have to do is download Play Store.
Chinese apps ? So easy to remove them (of course without root).
You saying "Get Apps Store" is not is not useful? Only from there you can update your system apps ! (Example: today I received update on "rear display". Many fixes in this update actually)
After all I realized I have everything I need. Phone with minimum Google background processing, but with full support of anything i want. 3-4% battery drain overnight lmao...is very respectful. (Stock Root it/Adaway)
And yes enjoy your EU rom with micro lags in open/close apps and luck of 120Hz in many places.
Global is old firmware and loaded with google bloatware in a system.
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There is no lag if you disable all animations in developer options
Just touch it and it's open immediately

avetny said:
Chinese firmware is best one out there. I need google services as much as you do. After unboxing you already have basic google services (example to add Google account). All you have to do is download Play Store.
Chinese apps ? So easy to remove them (of course without root).
You saying "Get Apps Store" is not is not useful? Only from there you can update your system apps ! (Example: today I received update on "rear display". Many fixes in this update actually)
After all I realized I have everything I need. Phone with minimum Google background processing, but with full support of anything i want. 3-4% battery drain overnight lmao...is very respectful. (Stock Root it/Adaway)
And yes enjoy your EU rom with micro lags in open/close apps and luck of 120Hz in many places.
Global is old firmware and loaded with google bloatware in a system.
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I did everything to stay on stock Chinese Rom. Initially the phone came opened and some staff installed already. I prefer a fresh install. I did exactly what the first post says. Factory reset and boom no play store. I found every program I need out there in the wild apk services. They worked fine but Some had issues with update some was behaving strange like no notification etc. Stock Chinese ROM is great but I sometimes use French characters and built in Roboto Font was not looking pleasant. I did non-root debloating too but still it wasn't great. I accidentally removed some programs that was important for keyboard for some reason. Furthermore, I even use Chinese Rom now but it is EU Rom with weekly beta updates. It has the latest firmware, miui 12.6. For example you received the latest rear display update and its news recently but rear display was updated here already. I can use rear display to shot vlog videos or slow motion videos etc. The charger takes 30 mins to bring the phone battery to an acceptable level. So, even if it drains overnight, it takes 30 mins to have your phone juiced up. Another point to mention is sim card and some payment methods are designed for China in Chinese Rom and you can't select some settings directly. There are workarounds for sure but why bother when there is an easily customisable settings in EU ROM.

Appreciate all the info!!! Think I am all set now. Trying to get the last few things setup. Moving from a OnePlus 7T Pro McClaren. First impression of this is amazing.