Hey Guys,
Android multitasks like a boss, unlike iOS it doesn't pause it's apps on pressing the home key, while completely letting it stop running code, but i'm still missing something in android:
For example, when i'm at home and i connect my phone to my speakers in the living room, i sometimes use youtube to play tracks that i don't have on my storage. This works fine but when the track is nearly finished and i switch tabs in the dolphin browser to open another song before the track is over, the playback immediately stops because i changed tabs.
Or when i'm listening to a song on youtube through and i want to go back to the homescreen to open another app, the playback also stops.
I know it drains the battery like crazy if the browser would continue, but i wonder if there isn't an app or something that would let android run a couple of non-system apps at a time once in a while.
I hope you guys know something
Thanks
I have the same issue, and I use the YouTube App. I think it's because Google assume's you're watching the video, not just listening to it.
Radio/Music Apps don't have this limitation. Try any these three FREE Internet Radio stations and you'll be hooked: Pandora Internet Radio, TuneIn Radio, iHeartRadio and Sky.FM Internet Radio.
You can't be serious, Android doesn't have "real multitasking". Not even ICS.
You can separate "Multitasking" into 6 categories.
1) True Multitasking - you can see AND interact with two (or more) RUNNING applications.
2) True Multitasking - you can see two (or more) RUNNING applications, only interact with them one at a time.
3) Multitasking - you can only see and interact with one application but all other applications RUN in the background.
4) Pseudo-Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application but only RUN several applications in the background.
5) Pseudo-Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application and can SAVE STATE (to ram) other applications.
6) No Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application and can see a list of other applications which can be called upon.
The only mobiles that can multitask (that I know of) is the N900/N9/N950, the Blackberry Playbook, Palm Touchpad/Pre/Pixi/etc.
Android can technically do True Multitasking (or even True Multitasking2) but it needs to be hacked and made to do so in a very different way, as Inoxos shows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1ckOoeRJg&feature=player_embedded
Right now, the best you can get is ICS Pseudo-Multitasking were the core services RUN in the background, you can run a few (6 iirc) applications in the background, and have unlimited* applications SAVE STATE.... and put them into a *Multitasking List* The reason for this move by Google is simple: Battery life. However, for smart users aka power users this is quite intrusive and we rather have True Multitasking because we know what we are doing.
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However, for smart users aka power users this is quite intrusive and we rather have True Multitasking because we know what we are doing.
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I understand your point, but isn't this why Android is open source?
When you buy a device, you are getting a "consumer level" OS, which isn't really configured for power user - this is why the manufacturers go to such lengths to lock down the device.
What I would like to see in Android is the ability to designate a process/application as unkillable by Android task management, so that I can ensure that when I switch task, that process isn't killed. I could achieve this via a custom AOSP build, but I don't want it enough to actually bother doing it myself!
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Real multitasking is possible but it must be enabled in the app. I use Igo navigation which can be forced to run in the background, and just today i had navigation running and giving verbal instructions whilst listening to a podcast all while browsing the web. If thats not multitasking i dont know what is.
Saying android cant do real multitasking is rubbish im sorry but thats the nicest way i could have put it. Go back to your iphone lol or learn how to use android properly before making such comments.
Using your definitions there If i can run navigation in the background while using the headset to control the music app and at the same time use the browser normaly what type of multitasking is that? All 3 apps are running simultaniously and I can control 2 apps at once. Whilst this is happening I can be downloading something from the market and answer a phone call.
Nice long post full of crap info you have there.
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Real multitasking is possible but it must be enabled in the app. I use Igo navigation which can be forced to run in the background, and just today i had navigation running and giving verbal instructions whilst listening to a podcast all while browsing the web. If thats not multitasking i dont know what is.
Saying android cant do real multitasking is rubbish im sorry but thats the nicest way i could have put it. Go back to your iphone lol or learn how to use android properly before making such comments.
Using your definitions there If i can run navigation in the background while using the headset to control the music app and at the same time use the browser normaly what type of multitasking is that? All 3 apps are running simultaniously and I can control 2 apps at once. Whilst this is happening I can be downloading something from the market and answer a phone call.
Nice long post full of crap info you have there.
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@martcerv i know android can multitask like that, on an iphone you can let the music play in the background too.. but igo navigation and music are ment to work in the background.. i was wondering if there's a way you can choose yourself what apps you want to run in the background. Because you can't let the browser run in the background
@ekin, will ICS let me to select the browser to be one of the 6 apps that run in the background?
I think its down to each app, by default most aren't enabled to run in the background but the os is capable of it. Even igo will only work in background if you change the advanced settings to work that way.
As mobiles are limited in ram and battery, most app developers trend to disable this feature otherwise lots of people would complain that there system its lagging and battery life is being killed by the app. I'd like to see an option in most aps so people that want it can use it but they will be aware of the possible performance and battery issues.
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I think its down to each app, by default most aren't enabled to run in the background but the os is capable of it. Even igo will only work in background if you change the advanced settings to work that way.
As mobiles are limited in ram and battery, most app developers trend to disable this feature otherwise lots of people would complain that there system its lagging and battery life is being killed by the app. I'd like to see an option in most aps so people that want it can use it but they will be aware of the possible performance and battery issues.
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The solution for that is for android's multitasking capabilities to advance further to the decree of Maemo/WebOS/etc and a smart ux overhaul that makes such process easy.
For instance, look at Win7's Superbar. Many years were spent getting it to its current state, and it handles this problem in a cinch!
@martcev
What you described is Pseudo-Multitasking as I have defined. As stated by another, even iOS does this (but less advanced). If you use a device from a different (multitasking) mobileOS you might actually grasp my comment.
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The solution for that is for android's multitasking capabilities to advance further to the decree of Maemo/WebOS/etc and a smart ux overhaul that makes such process easy.
For instance, look at Win7's Superbar. Many years were spent getting it to its current state, and it handles this problem in a cinch!
@martcev
What you described is Pseudo-Multitasking as I have defined. As stated by another, even iOS does this (but less advanced). If you use a device from a different (multitasking) mobileOS you might actually grasp my comment.
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Kangal, I get you totally.
I recently dropped my N900 on the floor and finally killed it. I chose to get a SGS3 as a replacement because I already got my wife a N9 a while ago so I don't see the point of getting another one. Anyway, I've been trying to find a way to true multitask on my SGS3 like Maemo does but it seems that it's not possible (maybe at least not on stock). I like the SGS3 for its screen and the fact that it can handle videos in pretty much any resolution but I can't help to think that I actually own a "dumbphone" for the fact that it can't true multitask.
I mean, if it can't multitask properly, what's the point of having 4 cores?
there used to be an opensource Window switcher on windows mobile, same maker as wififofum that rocked. its funny it dissapeared and never was implemented for android. That rocked
It indeed is strange that android doesnt have it natively, there are paid solutions on the market thought
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Hey Guys,
Android multitasks like a boss, unlike iOS it doesn't pause it's apps on pressing the home key, while completely letting it stop running code, but i'm still missing something in android:
For example, when i'm at home and i connect my phone to my speakers in the living room, i sometimes use youtube to play tracks that i don't have on my storage. This works fine but when the track is nearly finished and i switch tabs in the dolphin browser to open another song before the track is over, the playback immediately stops because i changed tabs.
Or when i'm listening to a song on youtube through and i want to go back to the homescreen to open another app, the playback also stops.
I know it drains the battery like crazy if the browser would continue, but i wonder if there isn't an app or something that would let android run a couple of non-system apps at a time once in a while.
I hope you guys know something
Thanks
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the only problem with Android's multitasking is that it drains battery. there's so much applications running in background, and i have to manually kill them. to minimize my manually killing these applications, i have to check their settings and for those applications that have sync, i have to increase the sync timing for example from every 5 mins to 24 hours. its a nightmare to go through all my applications (i figured it out late), and it gives me headache when some applications there's no such option!
i know for some applications it is useful for example if u want to download something in a different application while doing something else with another application. but i dont download much(well... its a phone, not a computer). so because of that, i really hate Android's multitask approach. i hope at some point, there's an option where Android can switch multitask configuration, where i would love to use iOS's solution, where they pauses background apps... it would certainly solve S2's battery problem.
Actually android can does allow true multitasking just like on your desktop. It not android that has the limitation, its some of the apps. My wife's SGS2 on gingerbread 2.3.6 can run Aircalc, floating browser & overskreen all on the screen at the exact same time running simultaneously & I can still cycle through my homescreen without minizing anything. This is straight stock right out of the box. Android has had the capability for years, there just hasn't been many apps that take advantage of it. Android is the most powerful, versatile OS out there because the possibilities are endless
lol, just cause an app has a workaround doesnt mean that the OS shouldnt have it natively... thats the issue, it should be natively supported, not random by some genious developers...
If that were true than you can program any app on any os and call the os genious... because a programmer invents something... I remember people building awesome stuff in dos, that didnt make dos awesome lol.
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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zeppelinrox you rock with yer scripts, automagically lmao
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Popup play its multitasking
I can write here.. Whatsapp, mail while watching videos.. Also power amp running music and do the same.. That's multitasking... Would be cool to let YouTube play the video in the background.. Or save the state of a website when you stop using the browser..
Other than that I don't see any other use
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You're confusing multitasking with a band-aid fix that's good for only one single purpose.
Call it what ever you want.. Multi-tasking(wiki) : "In computing, multitasking is a method where multiple tasks, also known as processes, are performed during the same period of time. The tasks share common processing resources, such as a CPU and main memory"
When ever I can accomplish this no matter what.. This can be called multitasking....
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Back in DOS days you could only run 1 task at a time.. Play a game? Sure but you could not do anything else...
Develop software in gwbasic? Sure but again you can not do anything else.. Copy some files from a diskette to another? Sure but once again you can not do anything else.. Mean no multitasking allowed
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lol some dudes created a shell, in which a windowed environment allowed multitasking
anyways strictly speaking your correct. But then my requirements of multitasking is a bit higher
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multitasking app?
zeppelinrox said:
I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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Sounds quite promising. Is it possible to make an app that you can adjust the number of simultaneous tasks allowed. Simiar to, say setting, maximum cpu using gui? I'm sure many people that are not familar with all the inner workings of android would appreciate having this capability.
Thanks for your efforts!
Long time iphone 1st gen and then iphone 4 user and while I like certain aspects of my first android phone, i.e the openness of the software Im coming up short on a few simple tasks.
1. Notifications, I have tried Widget locker for them on the lockscreen but while they show for phone and messages, they dont for gmail and email. I have tried go notifications but that doesnt seem to do anything at all. I just cant seem to find anything that just works as it did so seamlessly on the iphone.
2. My bluetooth headset doesnt seem to be as smooth as on iphone either, pushing the button on my headset doesnt seem to enable the voice dialling or wake my phone up. If I switch on my phone and then press the button it seems to eventually start working, but it can be hit and miss.
3. Battery Life seems really poor and I have to charge every night even after only light use. Im use power saving, easy task manager and easy battery manager but it doesnt seem to be helping all that much.
Other things like the camera not seeming to match the iphone, the screen apart from the great size not matching the iphone quality and the battery life not being anywhere close to the iphones are bugbears but things I could learn to live with if I could get notifications, bluetooth and battery running better.
The fact I can plug in usb sticks and hook up to the tv and upgrade my memory with a simple sd card are fantastic additions and Im really trying to fall in love with this phone, but just struggling a little.
Any help?
pewdle said:
Long time iphone 1st gen and then iphone 4 user and while I like certain aspects of my first android phone, i.e the openness of the software Im coming up short on a few simple tasks.
1. Notifications, I have tried Widget locker for them on the lockscreen but while they show for phone and messages, they dont for gmail and email. I have tried go notifications but that doesnt seem to do anything at all. I just cant seem to find anything that just works as it did so seamlessly on the iphone.
3. Battery Life seems really poor and I have to charge every night even after only light use. Im use power saving, easy task manager and easy battery manager but it doesnt seem to be helping all that much.
Any help?
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1. Try using settings in gmail and email (instead of global settings)
3. Install newest firmware. If not using your phone, you should then get a maximum consumption of 1-2% per hour which is a good value.
Nothing in settings of either email program will put notification bubbles in home or lock screen, it's purely at the top bar.
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Yes, that's the way it is in android.
Maybe you like BackLightNotification (BLN) which is offered in some custom roms. You also need an app for customize and activate this.
Maybe you try GO Launcher at your homescreen...I think you can have notifications for sms with this...but I am not sure.
Currently I use Simplicity Rom 2.1.1 with Semaphore Kernel 2.6.0beta.
Download DroidNotify from the market, that will solve your notification issues at least....
I would suggest you Juice Defender (android market) for battery life..install it, set at extreme and voula! ..your data connections will be disabled when screen off, you can set your smartphone to go into airplane mode over night (saving you a lot of juice)
If you manage to get one of OC/UV (overclock/undervolt) app that works on stock ROMs (I would suggest Tegrak overclock app), you can have even more juice..with undervolting.
I have just bought a new Galaxy Note and I think it is really really good, but there's just a few things that I'm not sure how to do and what certain things mean etc:
1. I have only ever had a H symbol with 2 arrows in the notification bar. I thought that I would have a 3G symbol but this has never appeared. Question is, what is the H symbol and is my 3G working? I have just turned off fast dormancy, as I have read that it may drain batter, and now I have an E where the H usually is. What is the E for?
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
3. I have downloaded a few apps and some have saved to the SD card and some have saved to the phone. Why is this? How do I choose where apps save to?
4. I used to have an iPhone 4 and I was forever double tapping the menu button and closing down apps. As far as I am aware with an adroid phone you don't need to do this? Is that right?
I'm sorry for length of this post and the amount of questions that I have asked. I am normally really good with phones but the galaxy note is more like a computer and I would rather just ask the questions than figure it all out myself over time.
Thanks in advance.
H is like 3.5G its a little faster than 3G bit still not 4G. E or edge is 2G.
You can check in the settings of most apps itself how frequently they auto update
As far as moving apps go you can go to setting then apps and choose where the app is, except for system apps.
To close apps and not have them run in the background you have to long press the home button and then swipe the app you want to close
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ottawayd said:
I have just bought a new Galaxy Note and I think it is really really good, but there's just a few things that I'm not sure how to do and what certain things mean etc:
1. I have only ever had a H symbol with 2 arrows in the notification bar. I thought that I would have a 3G symbol but this has never appeared. Question is, what is the H symbol and is my 3G working? I have just turned off fast dormancy, as I have read that it may drain batter, and now I have an E where the H usually is. What is the E for?
2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
3. I have downloaded a few apps and some have saved to the SD card and some have saved to the phone. Why is this? How do I choose where apps save to?
4. I used to have an iPhone 4 and I was forever double tapping the menu button and closing down apps. As far as I am aware with an adroid phone you don't need to do this? Is that right?
I'm sorry for length of this post and the amount of questions that I have asked. I am normally really good with phones but the galaxy note is more like a computer and I would rather just ask the questions than figure it all out myself over time.
Thanks in advance.
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H is the fastest internet you'll get on your note, the downside of it is that it drains the battery pretty fast. As for me, I switch to it when I want to load YouTube videos, download lots of data and similar. You can download a "3G switch" widget from Google Play to quickly jump between H(3G) and EDGE(the E symbol, slower internet, but much better battery life)
By turning off the automatic sync, you save a lot of data and battery life, you can do that via Settings > Accounts and Sync. Personally, I find it better to manually refresh my email and similar when I need it, but it's your decision.
Since Note has a massive internal memory, you should keep all apps installed to the internal memory rather than the SD card, for the fastest experience, since none of the apps need to load from the slower SD card.
Android handles processes very well by itself so there is no need to manually "kill" apps. If you wish to end some unresponsive ones, you can get SystemPanel Task manager from the Google Play store, it's pretty good.
Feel free to PM me for any further questions
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2. I'd like to improve the battery life and I have read on here of a few ways to do that. One of the ways is to make sure that apps don't update too regularly. Where do I actually go to check how often the apps update?
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besides turning the global sync off, you can:
- check the betterbatterystats thread, it may seem confusing at first, but it's worth the effort
- disable gps location
- in all internet apps (e.g. facebook, rss readers, weather etc. ) turn the automatic updates off (or set to every 8/16/24hr)
- if you feel brave, check either autostarts or autorun manager in the market (both apps paid) - based on trial and error you can disable triggers which make apps to autostart, without damaging their functionality
- avoid taskkillers
- check lama (also on market, free), you can set it to do a lot of things, like turn wifi on when you're at home and switch to mobile when not, turn sync and internet off when screen is of etc. etc.
Hi,
I have recently upgraded from my 3yr old beloved HD2, the most amazing device ever to play with to Motorola Atrix HD which is THE ONLY Motorola device that is compatible with Tmobile 3G and of course 4G since it support 1700 bandwidth along with 1800 and 2100. Anyways...as I was playing with this phone like rooting, installing apps and removing ATT bloatware....I wanted to share some of the things with you all. I hope you find it useful......
-If you want your phone to be rooted....My first advice is not to upgrade this phone to Jelly Bean as it is harder to root it with JB than it is with ICS. I have used every single Android version in my good old HD2 and I can tell you this there is not any striking difference between these to versions as I have used both and using ICS was better to play with for me...what really made me mad was that my purchased Copilot live 8 app does not recognize my purchased Svox US Grace tts anymore...it did in ICS ...Again, I am not a developer, and developers may argue otherwise
-If you willfully or accidentally upgraded to JB please follow this thread(courtesy of DAN ) for rooting instructions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2143437
It make may not be a very simple for some of you but be patient, read all the posts and keep trying and you will succeed. This is the only option to root Atrix HD with JB and unfortunately there is no way you can rollback to ICS to get the easy root. For instructions on rooting Atrix HD ICS see here(Also THANKS to DAN )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940594
Without rooting you can't really do much to make your device more efficient....since all utility apps require root access!!!
Now, if you are rooted......AND you have stock ICS or JellyBean....follow my tips if you will, you will see more efficiency in terms app fluidity and power saving....
-Install System App Remover or Titanium Backup Pro to uninstall all the bloatware that are useless and just sitting on your device and memory for no apparent reason....here is hint: if you have not used an app in last 4-6 weeks, chances are you will never use it/them. You will better success with Titanium backup pro in removing them than System app remover....but be very careful what you delete if are not sure just leave it alone!!! HINT: freeze app first see the effect, be sure then uninstall
-Install Startup manager or any app that does this, to block unnecessary process or app to load up...again if you are not sure leave it alone!!!
-Install any task manager/killer and set it auto kill every 30/15mins or when device is off...closes running apps, frees memory and saves battery.
-Optional: install Rom manager or Rom tool box and fix permission if you have a lots of apps installed in your device. As the claim, this should make the apps run smoother.....No offense to the developers, I personally have not seen and practical effect of this step(it may be just in theory), not in my HD2 and not in Atrix HD...but I like to be on the safe side..it does not hurt!!!
-If you are not a heavy gamer then, install SetCpu or Antutu or something of your choice to scale down the CPU a bit...you don't really need that much speed for normal stuff and you will save a lot of battery this way.
-More battery will be saved if you configure built-in app called SmartActions to a profile that suits you. You can also install auto on/off 2G/3G/4G. I personally don't use it...as it takes long time to switch back to 3G/4G when you wake up your device and you need to use internet right away...not after 10mins..lolll
-If you are in ICS install Widgetlocker app and set it up to Easywake mode to wake your device by pressing volume key....it will save the torture on your power button any time you want to wake up device...NOTE: This App option does not work on JB....so your only substitute is to install WakeUp Screen app to wake up device by shaking instead....TIP: set up threshold to as low as possible so that you don't destroy the inner structure of your Atrix or let it slip out of your hand or smash it on the ground by shaking it too hard....you should not sacrifice your phone over the power button, right???
-Install Lux auto brightness app and adjust/lower your brightness to your choice...I personally think it is too bright in stock mode...saves battery.
WELL........I guess that's all the utility apps you need as far as I can think of and your device will be more efficient......all of these can be installed from the infamous google play....
If you use custom rom via safestrap method...many/some of these features are/may be built in or customizable within the rom...you won't need third party apps...I myself have not installed custom rom although I am flashaholic and I still have my HD2 for that...but I like to wait the custom roms to mature a bit more since I see complaints of buggy camera or sound or bluetooth etc......And since I have customized and cleaned up the stock rom via above stated apps....I don't think I will ever try or need to flash my Atrix HD since it run perfectly up to my expectation....for flashing rom matter I have my HD2 lolllll
NOTE FOR THOSE WHO WILL SCREW UP REGARDLESS: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE AND IF YOU ARE NOT SURE. DON'T DO IT...SIMPLE!
PS: If you have any tips or tricks please join in and share!!!!
I hope you find this helpful...if you do, hit the thanks button...and if you don't...I wish there was a unthank button...xda should work on that
What do you think?
Our CPU is of 1.5 ghz, how much shud we set it at?
I set it up up at 1024...fast enough for me...see for itself you can always change it also make sure to check set at reboot option...I use antutu CPU control. You can also also use diff profile option like...at screen screen set it up around 600 or so...will save even more juice...
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I set it up up at 1024...fast enough for me...see for itself you can always change it also make sure to check set at reboot option...I use antutu CPU control. You can also also use diff profile option like...at screen screen set it up around 600 or so...will save even more juice...
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Yea the good old underclocking when the screen is off i have been doing since i had my HTC Incredible saves so much battery nice tips btw.
How is the rom in terms of battery usage, performance, UI? What major bugs are you facing?
The default stuff (phone, messages) works very well, no problems as long as you use Nubia's stuff. If you want to use Google Phone or Textra, you have to setup the notifications and even after that, there are times when you don't get notified.
After a lot of tries, I couldn't change the default launcher. If I use something else, I lose the recents (button or gesture), it doesn't work anymore.
Apart from these problems, it runs perfect.
Performance and battery life wise, it's about the same.
Any new problems since your last update?
No new problems and no visible improvers. I would like to know what the update was about, but unfortunately they don't translate the release notes in English..