Flash radios? No T-Mobile LTE - HTC First

I have yet to get T-Mobile's lte on my unlocked HTC First. Does anyone know why? ( I have had 2 AT&T unlocked handsets running on lte in my area previously.)
Are there any different radios around I can flash? I am aware that the First and One Mini have nearly the same hardware. Could I try flashing a One Mini radio?
Thanks for the help.

Agent00yolo said:
I have yet to get T-Mobile's lte on my unlocked HTC First. Does anyone know why? ( I have had 2 AT&T unlocked handsets running on lte in my area previously.)
Are there any different radios around I can flash? I am aware that the First and One Mini have nearly the same hardware. Could I try flashing a One Mini radio?
Thanks for the help.
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I've also got my first with T-Mobile but all I can get is hspa+ yes we've got the necessary radios for LTE but the phone isn't programmed in a way that it can use them. You'll need a T-Mobile specific RUU for that. But our first is a at&t only handset so none is existent. Will something from the mini work? Maybe. But it's likely that you would end up with a brick. And I don't believe that a T-Mobile specific one exists. Go ahead an try it if you want tho and mess around with stuff but... Beware

Agent00yolo said:
I have yet to get T-Mobile's lte on my unlocked HTC First. Does anyone know why? ( I have had 2 AT&T unlocked handsets running on lte in my area previously.)
Are there any different radios around I can flash? I am aware that the First and One Mini have nearly the same hardware. Could I try flashing a One Mini radio?
Thanks for the help.
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They might have the same hardware but different radios so you have to check that
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Damn... If I was aware of this before my purchase, I may have gone with a different device.
I don't think lte is worth a possible paperweight. Finding a way to enable lte doesn't seem like too difficult of a task - not that I really know what I'm talking about.
Thanks guys.

I'm on att
And Im off contract with no data. I get WiFi everywhere so... I pay 10 bucks a month for my self on a family plan...
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Agent00yolo said:
Damn... If I was aware of this before my purchase, I may have gone with a different device.
I don't think lte is worth a possible paperweight. Finding a way to enable lte doesn't seem like too difficult of a task - not that I really know what I'm talking about.
Thanks guys.
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Don't worry about it too much. Hspa+ speeds are great! I get an average of 8mbs down! But I'm in a completely refarmed area. Make sure to check on your device info whether you're getting hspa+ or umts as you might need a different APN. (Umts is 3g but shows up as 4g)

It's HSPA+. However, I live on the edge of the reframed area. In my city I get anywhere from .5 down, up to as high as 3MBs. On lte it was around 10-20 down.
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Agent00yolo said:
It's HSPA+. However, I live on the edge of the reframed area. In my city I get anywhere from .5 down, up to as high as 3MBs. On lte it was around 10-20 down.
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I get 70kbps at my house through DSL! So don't complain bout those speeds. You have never seen how slow att DSL is
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Agent00yolo said:
It's HSPA+. However, I live on the edge of the reframed area. In my city I get anywhere from .5 down, up to as high as 3MBs. On lte it was around 10-20 down.
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Try these APN settings exactly. They got me an extra 2megs. And the refarming is extending rapidly. Not so long ago I got edge but now I've got great hspa+ everywhere. It will improve only who knows how long it'll take

Could someone test following build.prop settings on T-Mobile?
Don't forget to:
1. make backup of build.prop;
2. you must be s-off;
3. reboot after applying changes.
old -> new
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=14 -> ro.ril.hsdpa.category=24 (T-Mobile dual channel HSPA support)
ro.ril.ltefgi=1577974912 -> ro.ril.ltefgi=1578105984 (LTE features)
ro.ril.disable.lte.band2_5=1 -> ro.ril.disable.lte.band2_5=0 (LTE band 2 and 5, already =0 if you have latest radio)
ro.ril.att.feature=1 -> ro.ril.att.feature=0 (or remove)
EnableLTEBANDSCANPRI=1 -> EnableLTEBANDSCANPRI=0 (or remove)

Hulo_ said:
Could someone test following build.prop settings on T-Mobile?
Don't forget to:
1. make backup of build.prop;
2. you must be s-off;
3. reboot after applying changes.
old -> new
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=14 -> ro.ril.hsdpa.category=24 (T-Mobile dual channel HSPA support)
ro.ril.ltefgi=1577974912 -> ro.ril.ltefgi=1578105984 (LTE features)
ro.ril.disable.lte.band2_5=1 -> ro.ril.disable.lte.band2_5=0 (LTE band 2 and 5, already =0 if you have latest radio)
ro.ril.att.feature=1 -> ro.ril.att.feature=0 (or remove)
EnableLTEBANDSCANPRI=1 -> EnableLTEBANDSCANPRI=0 (or remove)
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I can do it right now but.. What exactly will it do?

abrahammmmmmm_ said:
I can do it right now but.. What exactly will it do?
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1. Change max 4g speed;
2. Change LTE features bits, exact number comes from HTC one mini; also there's specific number from T-Mobile HTC one, can't find it right now;
3. Enable additional LTE bands, that maybe supported by T-Mobile;
4 and 5. Specific at&t settings.

Hulo_ said:
1. Change max 4g speed;
2. Change LTE features bits, exact number comes from HTC one mini; also there's specific number from T-Mobile HTC one, can't find it right now;
3. Enable additional LTE bands, that maybe supported by T-Mobile;
4 and 5. Specific at&t settings.
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Alright my device didn't soft brick and still gets data! Sadly I'm in a 2g only area right now so it'll be a while until I can report back with any results. Hoping this improves something!

Had time to test it out now and there's no difference. Or at least not very noticeable so I returned to stock settings

I also didn't notice any difference. Thanks tho.

a little difference
i went from 10 mb up and 1 down to
15 mb up and 3 down so ill take it
now if some one can help me get 4g lte on this thing that would be great cause i cant figure it out

Could you please verify that your t-mobile sim works with LTE network in other t-mobile phones? Maybe problem in sim cart, cause LTE bands 2 and 4 that used by t-mobile are supported by this phone.
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And what the reason of speed increase? Please share.

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What US network are you on if you have unlocked note?

I saw a deal for an unlocked "world" version of the note and I am on TmoUS. So if I buy the note, will I be able to use my unlimited data plan with 3g or H? I am confused reading the forums on the att side and this one...they're saying I can only get edge? Because that would really suck.
I'm on tapatalk and can't do a decent search on xda via app so if this had been asked already, just point me to that thread and I will gladly have this one deleted. Also, the desire to get the unlocked note is a spur of the moment kinda thing since the deal is only available for one day. Btw, unlocked note is selling for 585 with shipping from 1saleaday.
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what they said is right you will only get edge speeds on tmobile with the inter.. Note...If you use AT&T then its no big deal.
I am also on tmo. I found an article that says you can run tmo hspa+ on att note so I'm going to try and trade line on Craigslist. Edge is killing me man.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
whocares2k7 said:
Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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that depends on the frequency of the 3g network in your area.
however, this is the first I've seen it mentioned that American t mobile has any other 3g bands than 700mhz.
So I'd say no, you most likely will not get 3g speeds.
The N7000 will only run on T-Mobile edge. If you want 4g you have to AT&T or Straight Talk.
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
Well, EDGE is downright terrible...no one can argue that. If you want to use T-Mobile, you're better off getting the AT-T note, unlocking it, then installing the right modem files to use it on 3g/4g. I use T-Mobile myself, and decided to keep the Int. version...I think it's better, and the development community is WAY better, mainly because the device has been out longer. It's up to you really. Don't hope T-Mobile will be updating it's 1900mhz spectrum in your area anytime soon...it's a process I'm sure will take many years.
ubermetroid said:
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
smalmagal said:
I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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Yes they do number porting as long as it is not a at&t number because straight talk uses at&t network.
It sucks that it is more difficult to get the inter version to work on 3g or h on tmo. I did read that the inter version is better than att version and I do believe that development will be better with the inter version as it obviously covers more countries and it has been out longer. I really want this note but I'm just gonna wait a bit. I have a feeling those guys working on getting tmo to work on inter version will be able to do it. Wishful thinking probably but it is possible with all the talented devs out there. I guess I'm going to be on sensation for a while until tmo comes up with a phone as awesome as the note. Thanks for all the responses!!
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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kotaro_14 said:
Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Noob question...how can I check? Are you getting 3g with tmo now?
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chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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FYI and I have heard of this issue before, Straight Talk gets varied reception in Metropolitian areas. Let me explain.
I have had ST for a few months now, on the NT7000. I have had zero issues.
A couple of caveats
DO NOT use more than 100mb/day or 2gb/month, whichever comes first. People have had their contracts terminated by ST for doing this. So not truly unlimited (but still more than decent deal). This is not a *hard* limit- I have done more without any issues by accident.
I get decent service in the suburb of NYC where I live (few tall buildings), actually much better service than Tmobile had.
However, in NYC itself, the service can be absolutely horrible depending on area. My guess for this phenomenon is that while you are on an ATT MVNO, this doesn't necessarily mean that you have the same roaming rights as regular ATT customers. In a metro area, roaming might be necessary to get signal in certain places.
My download speeds at 2gb down 1 up.
I would just buy a months' worth at first and try it out as prepaid, then port your number in.
From what I understand, you don't even need to buy the e71 like I did anymore
skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Which areas in Philly? I live in Philly but only manage to ever get Edge speeds on mine.
I use RedPocket. It's a MVNO of AT&T ....
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
houstonsveryown said:
so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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I do. I got it with the SGS II and ow with the Note. up to 3mbs download. Good enough. MediaNet is $10 a month unlimited, I don't use nearly 2GB maybe less than 1 as I am in WiFi most of the time. I am using a Cingular.wap setting. Its different than the "smartphone" APN but the speeds are the same (until LTE is available) I don't need LTE speeds on a phone. I don't even get those speeds at home on cable. maybe 7Mbs DL.

Can this device the 4G one work on tmobile Hugh speed network?

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Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mhz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
cambertoe said:
Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!
BriCo84 said:
WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!
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Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!
cambertoe said:
Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!
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This is great to hear. I am going to hold off for now, as I would have to open a TMobile account, and I really dont NEED to have this until I start traveling in a few months.
Now what would be AMAZING, is if somehow this tablet could work on verizon. I have a huge corporate account with them and it would cost me next to nothing to add the tablet to the account, assuming it would work. I didn't think it was possible, but then again, I didn't think TMobile high speed connection was possible either.
Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?
BriCo84 said:
Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?
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I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).
cambertoe said:
I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).
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What about the LTE radios?
Thanks for the reply. Bought one already and hacking it today. Going to do the same thing i did to
Att's note, radio flash!
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cambertoe said:
Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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BriCo84 said:
What about the LTE radios?
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I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
biggie827 said:
Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.
cambertoe said:
I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.
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I can tell you that this is legit. this is what I did. After paying I had the code in minutes and it worked
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BriCo84 said:
I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
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As I said that is impossible because the carriers use incompatible setups. SIM card carriers (GSM) will only work with other SIM card carriers. Verizon uses CDMA with no SIM cards. The networks themselves are completely different and hardware cannot be hacked to work. Most of the world uses GSM with SIM cards and if you travel overseas, you'll need a GSM device to use unlocked devices on any networks. Blame Verizon for picking a standard that 80% of the world doesn't use
Has anyone tried flashing the tmobile high speed radio but on the current rooted stock ICS rom instead of the cm10 rom?
In other words, i have a stock rooted sgh-i957 on samsungs ICS rom and i want to be able to use tmobile high speed network (HSPA+). Does anyone know if thats possible?
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[Q] HTC First on T-Mobile 3g

Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
whiten0va said:
Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
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T-Mobile AWS (1700 3g) *might* be there. *IF* it's there, you might be able to flash the baseband of the HTC One Mini when it comes out (and *IF* it has AWS). Haha, yeah, a lot of ifs and mights. As far as I know, I don't know of any other HTC first variants (even though the HTC website lists others for other regions)
However, I wouldn't worry too much. The AT&T version will work on T-Mobile's refarmed 1900 MHz 3G and T-Mobile's LTE.
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T-Mobile AWS (1700 3g) *might* be there. *IF* it's there, you might be able to flash the baseband of the HTC One Mini when it comes out (and *IF* it has AWS). Haha, yeah, a lot of ifs and mights. As far as I know, I don't know of any other HTC first variants (even though the HTC website lists others for other regions)
However, I wouldn't worry too much. The AT&T version will work on T-Mobile's refarmed 1900 MHz 3G and T-Mobile's LTE.
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Haha yikes. Thanks for the informative reply!
I ended up selling my First to a friend on AT&T who wanted to get away from iOS, and bought a used HTC Incredible 4G which I'll continue to use on my unlimited Verizon plan. Going to give the T-Mobile sim to my girlfriend who has a Nexus 4 and wants to leave AT&T. I've switched phones 3 times in the past week but finally ended on something to temporarily replace my aging Galaxy Nexus. I'll reevaluate after the X phone comes out this fall!
Haha, yeah, I've been looking for phones since my Sensation died and want to move on from the Fusion 2 I've been using on T-Mobile.
It looks like the X phone, HTC One Mini, and the Xperia SP are all very similar with only camera and battery differences. I'm stuck trying to justify spending more than double with any of those over the HTC first for a better camera, gpu, and/or battery.
whiten0va said:
Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
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So does anyone know if this phone can be hacked to run on T-Mobile's 3G network via enabling the 1700 & 2100MHz?
quailallstar said:
So does anyone know if this phone can be hacked to run on T-Mobile's 3G network via enabling the 1700 & 2100MHz?
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Not sure. But by me the switch from 1700 - 1900 has started. I get "4g" in a bunch of places. The rest is edge though. But it improved in just a week.
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NaterTots said:
Not sure. But by me the switch from 1700 - 1900 has started. I get "4g" in a bunch of places. The rest is edge though. But it improved in just a week.
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Thanks for chiming in on that. So its 4G and not their "LTE?"
I'm really leaning on picking up a new/leftover HTC First on ebay or something to fiddle with. I've heard its a pretty solid device with great build quality; only downfall is no expandable memory.
quailallstar said:
Thanks for chiming in on that. So its 4G and not their "LTE?"
I'm really leaning on picking up a new/leftover HTC First on ebay or something to fiddle with. I've heard its a pretty solid device with great build quality; only downfall is no expandable memory.
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Yeah I haven't found lte yet but it is supposed to be near me. The 4g or HSDPA+is fast though. I get 4-9 Mb/s down on it. I may drive through a lte area tomorrow. Currently I'm only using a $30 pre paid to try out t mobile in the areas I generally go.
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NaterTots said:
Yeah I haven't found lte yet but it is supposed to be near me. The 4g or HSDPA+is fast though. I get 4-9 Mb/s down on it. I may drive through a lte area tomorrow. Currently I'm only using a $30 pre paid to try out t mobile in the areas I generally go.
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I can live with HSDPA+ as that is what I have now and the fastest I've ever had.
whiten0va said:
Hi all!
I recently purchased an HTC First in hopes of running it on T-Mobile's $30/unlimited plan. Rather than doing my due diligence in researching radio bands, I bought the First and ended up stuck on T-Mobile Edge (2g) network.
This is because T-Mobile 3g/~4g uses the 1700MHz+2100MHz spectrum, while the First is set for AT&T 3g: 1900MHz+2100MHz.
Through more research I found that the Samsung Note II had the same problem, but by modifying the radio they could get it to use the 1700MHz spectrum as it is only disabled.
I hope to keep researching if this is possible, but does anyone have any information to help/completely demolish any hopes for this?
Thanks!
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so this phone runs on diff bands then the typical att phone? normally i can pick up lte on most att phones using tmobile but only getting 4g with the first..

Running the S4 Active on T-Mobile, anything else I should do?

Hi all.
I have been using my AT&T S4 Active on T-Mobile for the past week. I got it unlocked via an eBay seller and everything has been working great thus far. I had a question though regarding bands and whether or not all the bands available to me are unlocked. Right now where I live I pick up 4G/LTE (although not as strong in my apartment and cuts in and out periodically). I had read that when you unlock a phone via the code it automatically unlocks the bands that were previously not available (when locked to AT&T). Another thread I read that the user has to still unlock those bands. I was hoping someone could clarify this and point me in the right direction! Thanks guys!
jdminpdx said:
Hi all.
I have been using my AT&T S4 Active on T-Mobile for the past week. I got it unlocked via an eBay seller and everything has been working great thus far. I had a question though regarding bands and whether or not all the bands available to me are unlocked. Right now where I live I pick up 4G/LTE (although not as strong in my apartment and cuts in and out periodically). I had read that when you unlock a phone via the code it automatically unlocks the bands that were previously not available (when locked to AT&T). Another thread I read that the user has to still unlock those bands. I was hoping someone could clarify this and point me in the right direction! Thanks guys!
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Are you able to use mobile data with only unlocking the phone? I am about to buy this phone but i heard after unlocking only call/sms will work and not data.
I read here that for data we need to do other stuff
This phone says " LTE Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17" on AT&T website and I'm wondering if this phone will work on other carriers LTE network(T-Mobile, Verizon, or others?)? I know Verizon is CDMA and at&t and T-Mobile are GSM but can anyone answer this?
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Works on T-Mobile LTE
cyrusalmighty said:
This phone says " LTE Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17" on AT&T website and I'm wondering if this phone will work on other carriers LTE network(T-Mobile, Verizon, or others?)? I know Verizon is CDMA and at&t and T-Mobile are GSM but can anyone answer this?
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I got the AT&T SGH-i537 model. Pay $15 to have it unlock. Now using it with T-mobile. I got LTE. In some area, I got 23mbps download and 3.6mbps upload. It doubled my Galaxy Nexus speed. The device status info said I am on LTE:14
However, my mobile tethering is disabled. Need to find a way to enable that. Stupid AT&T lock it.
As long as you have the correct setting input into your phone your data will work ( assuming you have a data plan). I remember when the original Iphone came out I unlocked it for T-mobile and had internet on it even though it was branded AT&T only. (EDGE lol 56kb speed) but still it worked...
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I unlocked mine with ATT and used it with TMobile while I was in Hawaii. I only had to put my SIM in and I got pretty fast speeds (around 22mbps from what I remember) I don't know if that's the normal speed but compared to the crappy speeds on Guam it was lightening speeds to me! No root or anything needed, no difference after rooting either.
i can confirm it works minus teathering due to att
This is interesting as I thought ATT phones cannot receive Tmobiles LTE.
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Does this phone get T Mobiles HSPA+?
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Avail211 said:
I unlocked mine with ATT and used it with TMobile while I was in Hawaii. I only had to put my SIM in and I got pretty fast speeds (around 22mbps from what I remember) I don't know if that's the normal speed but compared to the crappy speeds on Guam it was lightening speeds to me! No root or anything needed, no difference after rooting either.
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tmobile hspa + can get up to 42mbps so that sounds about right.
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SM-N950F Slow Network Speeds On AT&T

Hey there fellas! I recently purchased an international Galaxy Note 8 to use on AT&T here in the U.S. Everything appears to work fine except the speed of my network. Normally in this area I would be getting LTE speeds around 30-40 up and down. With the Note 8 is displays H+ (which I understand to be LTE, but I may be wrong) and I get around 5-7 down and often less than 1mbps up. Some have suggested setting the preferred network time to LTE/UMTS auto (PRL) which was already selected on my device. Is there anything else I can do to get the proper speeds? Thanks!
SacrificedWalrus said:
Hey there fellas! I recently purchased an international Galaxy Note 8 to use on AT&T Thanks!
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On all of my international versions H+ was 3G and 4G was LTE. Depending on the area with 4G I would get 20 - 50 megs down on AT&T. On my 950U1 my settings under #*#*4636*#*# I have TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS selected by default and mine shows LTE and depending on the area up to 100 megs down.
H+ is 3G, or 3.5G for some carriers
CodeNameRedNeck said:
On all of my international versions H+ was 3G and 4G was LTE. Depending on the area with 4G I would get 20 - 50 megs down on AT&T. On my 950U1 my settings under #*#*4636*#*# I have TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS selected by default and mine shows LTE and depending on the area up to 100 megs down.
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Ah, that would explain why my speeds are so slow. Thank you for clearing that up. I attempted to select TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS as my preferred network mode but for whatever reason it will not apply. When I reopen that settings menu it goes back to whatever option was selected prior to that. Do you think it could have something to do with the selected APN? I have ATT Phone as my current APN, but at the store they were trying to use ATT Nextgenphone, which didn't work.
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but at the store they were trying to use ATT Nextgenphone, which didn't work.
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I would do all I could to get the Nextgenphone APN working. It is what I used on all my international phones.
Took the Note 8 into the AT&T store today and swapped out the sim card without any luck. As usual they couldn't provide any help beyond that. I also I can't select TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS as my preferred network type for some reason. I contacted the person I bought the phone from and they claimed they used it on Verizon's LTE network without an issue. Very strange.
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I would do all I could to get the Nextgenphone APN working. It is what I used on all my international phones.
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Would you mind sharing what your CSC on your Note 8 is? I might end up flashing whatever firmware your phone is using, as mine is currently running a firmware for French phones. Not sure if thats the issue, but its possible.
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Would you mind sharing what your CSC on your Note 8 is?
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When your look for the firmware look for 950U1 for AT&T. I would look around for a thread on flashing other regions first just to be safe.
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When your look for the firmware look for 950U1 for AT&T. I would look around for a thread on flashing other regions first just to be safe.
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I may be totally off here, but wouldn't that be an issue as the AT&T variant uses a Snapdragon SoC, while my device uses Exynos? Another concern for me would the ability to root as well, which is one of the reasons I decided not to buy an AT&T branded phone. Thanks for your help so far man, I appreciate it!
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I may be totally off here, but wouldn't that be an issue as the AT&T variant uses a Snapdragon SoC, while my device uses Exynos? Another concern for me would the ability to root as well, which is one of the reasons I decided not to buy an AT&T branded phone. Thanks for your help so far man, I appreciate it!
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You are right. There is no AT&T firmware for your phone. Unless they changed something with the Note8 you should still be able to get 4G. I did with my international Note4, Note5, and Xperia Z5 Premium models. My son is using the Note5 with an Exynos processor and gets 4G speeds comparable to LTE speeds in the area.
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
LouK said:
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. I called ATT and gave them your suggestion and they claimed that it would not work. They said provisioning my new phone with an IMEI of a different phone would be temporary up to 2-3 weeks. Have you encountered this issue? I'm assuming not, so I'm curious as to how long you've had this fixed. Thanks again man
LouK said:
Had this problem as well way back when I first got my 950F.
There are solutions. But you would need one of 2 things.
1. Get At&t to add your IMEI# TO their database so that they can provision your phone correctly.
2. Get another At&t branded phone's IMEI# that is LTE COMPATIBLE. and call them to provision you phone with that #.
My phone is getting full LTE speeds and VOLTE.
But I had them put in the IMEI# of my older Note 5!( which my wife is currently using)...
Hope this helps.
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^^ this. ATT LTE won't work unless the IMEI is provisioned .
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SacrificedWalrus said:
Thanks for the reply. I called ATT and gave them your suggestion and they claimed that it would not work. They said provisioning my new phone with an IMEI of a different phone would be temporary up to 2-3 weeks. Have you encountered this issue? I'm assuming not, so I'm curious as to how long you've had this fixed. Thanks again man
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I'v been using my N8 since it came out with my old N5 imei#
As I said be4 basically 4g LTE. &VoLTE Works.
Wifi calling etc.. no.
AND my wife is using the N5 so basically we have two phones on same account with same imei#!

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