Is it possible to use a USB external wifi antenna with a nexus 7?
might seem pointless but i think it would be kinda cool to hook up something like this http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-Wireless-Original-Screw-On-9dBi/dp/B001O9X9EU
.... to the Nexus 7. you can get antennas thats have little suction cups,attach it to the back of the tablet and take it for a ride
anyone try it yet?
External antennas have been used on the N7. Here in the general forum, a guy hooked his n7 to a mobile mount and external antenna, so he could fly his wifi controlled drone. He got it out over a mile.
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Well you can try and use an usb otg cable and have a usb wireless adapter connected. I havent tried it, but it would be pretty cool. Just make sure you have a rom/kernel that supports usb otg.
supergeek99 said:
Well you can try and use an usb otg cable and have a usb wireless adapter connected. I havent tried it, but it would be pretty cool. Just make sure you have a rom/kernel that supports usb otg.
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i cant seem to find which kernel will allow this.
any help guys?
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Where is this at for the tab. Has anyone found it yet. I dont know if maybe froyo does not support the usb host mode needed or what. I saw that it was comming and yet cannot seem to find it. It was supposed to plug into the data port on the tab and give you the ability to attatch regular usb peripherals.
Any info is greatly appreciated
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FWIW I saw a USB dock at Home Plus (Tesco for you guys in the UK) the other day for 29,000 KRW. Although I can't be sure, it appeared to be just a USB only dock but it looked like the HDMI dock recently reviewed on here.
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I havnt seen it yet!
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you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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That's not entirely true. Most android builds don't have the necessary usb host support as part of the kernel, but there's nothing to prevent someone from compiling it or adding it in as a module. The Tab is/was supposed to do this OOTB, and based on the pinout information posted elsewhere, there is at least kernel support for determining if host mode should be enabled. With a modified iPod connector from Sparkfun I was able to get the Tab's AccessoryManager process (I think that's what it was called) to see a non-supported device plugged in (externally-powered USB hard drive enclosure), even if it couldn't enumerate it. It could be because I didn't connect the requisite +5V for downstream devices, or because there is no usb_storage module available. More testing needs to be done on this before we write it off completely. Hopefully Samsung will just release their solution(s) sooner than later.
That is what I wish they would do. But im afraid with the tab10.1 it may be put on the back burner
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How did you modify the ipod connector? I have a few ipod/iphone cables lying around but they seem backwards compared to the sgt connector and difficult to modify.
I'm thinking about buying some sgt connectors or cables from china to play with.
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Unfortunately I could not find a supplier of the "mirrored" iPod connectors that the SGT uses. I contacted many China-based component mfgs and none could point me in the right direction for that stupid dock connector. So I got the iPod one from SparkFun, used an xacto knife and small file to grind off the material on either side of the connector that keys it into the mating iPod connector. This allows you to invert it and plug it into the SGT, which then gives you access to all 30 pins. The cheap charging/sync cables that you can get from ebay and the likes only come with 5-7 pins connected, and the rest missing.
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you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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you know what sucks? I had a $100 haipad that had a microusb jack and came with a 6" adapter cable. guess what? you could plug in usb sticks, a usb mouse, or a usb keyboard. worked perfectly. mouse had a pointer, keyboard worked without a popup, it was all quite magical.
that was on a 2.1 resistive touchscreen chinese tablet.
why the hell can't the tab to this?
I have everything planed out for my tab install for my Dodge Magnum. But since the Nexus 7 doesnt have a sd slot I need to find a cable that can charge the tablet and use my flash drive at same time.
My flash drive(Usb on dash, so its easily removable)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00812F7O8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Plugging this into the usb otg cable
http://www.amazon.com/Black-4-Port-...qid=1348442221&sr=8-3&keywords=4+port+usb+hub
I would love host cable with 2 usb inputs but cant seem to find it and dont know if its even possible.
Any help would be appreciated.
I found this on the bay : item # 140839631580 (Can't post link I'm too new... I was a lurker for a while -_-)
i didn't think the N7 could support power and OTG
You want it for video or audio? You could try a wifi solution for audio. Or be the guy that gets the pins to work.
there is NO data and charge at the same time. This is due to how the device switches from charge to usb mode thru the pin 4 . it senses rather a data cable or charge cable is being used . will not charge via otg..
there are several threads with experiments trying to get this work .You could use a wifi or bluethooth drive for data...
I have no clue what im doing but this is what im playing with at the moment. Its a old dock for sgs2 i believe but it has a dc and usb input on the back of it.
Im about to this because i have very little patience for china.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CQKM2U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A24Y22QERZZ9SS
Would get the cheaper one but the juiced one has a flexible cable vs the fixed usb on the other one. Would this be pointless though?
Unfortunately OTG sends ground up the sense pin to trigger host mode. Once activated it sends 5V DOWN the USB cable to power your USB devices. Trying to send voltage up the cable at the same time to the Nexus would not be a good idea. The only way around it I can think of would be to hack the firmware to only activate the data pins in host mode and keep the power circuit seperate, then you could power the USB device from a modified dock/hub which sends power up the USB cable to the device.
A lot of work, and without the powered hub, OTG would be useless!
In the long run wouldn't it be easier to just plug in the power lead when needed and have the otg in the rest of the time? (or vice versa). It would mean you having to have easy access to the usb port but I can't see an easy non technical solution to connecting both at once.
Don't use the Nexus 7 for a car install. You can get an Acer Iconia A100 with a full-size USB port to connect to whatever external storage solution you want, and it's usually about the same price or cheaper than the Nexus 7.
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Don't use the Nexus 7 for a car install. You can get an Acer Iconia A100 with a full-size USB port to connect to whatever external storage solution you want, and it's usually about the same price or cheaper than the Nexus 7.
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Trying to sell tablet now. Going for galaxy tab 2
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Wouldn't this work?
http://tobuygoods.com/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=USD&products_id=131
I have galaxy tab 2 for sale. Pm me for details...
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there is NO data and charge at the same time. This is due to how the device switches from charge to usb mode thru the pin 4 . it senses rather a data cable or charge cable is being used . will not charge via otg..
there are several threads with experiments trying to get this work .You could use a wifi or bluethooth drive for data...
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Would it be possible to charge while using an OTG Cable for Keyboard/Mouse or does the same principle apply as inn data via OTG & charge?
Roland
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Would it be possible to charge while using an OTG Cable for Keyboard/Mouse or does the same principle apply as inn data via OTG & charge?
Roland
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Same principle. In normal OTG host mode the tablet powers the peripherals. A USB keyboard/mouse will be no exception to that.
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I have no clue what im doing but this is what im playing with at the moment. Its a old dock for sgs2 i believe but it has a dc and usb input on the back of it.
Im about to this because i have very little patience for china.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CQKM2U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A24Y22QERZZ9SS
Would get the cheaper one but the juiced one has a flexible cable vs the fixed usb on the other one. Would this be pointless though?
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but was wondering if you ever ended up getting that Juiced systems adapter and if it worked well with the N7. Been looking at it but haven't found any success stories on XDA with the N7, just the few Amazon reviews...
That cable would work but u need specific kernel tweaks for otg + charge to work. Pm me if anyone needs it.
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That cable would work but u need specific kernel tweaks for otg + charge to work. Pm me if anyone needs it.
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Why PM you, why not just put it up here, Anyway here you guys go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835720
I am interested in this kernel patch quite a bit. I have a galaxy note 2 (sprint version). What are the odds someone has figured out how to get power and otg working on the note 2?
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there is NO data and charge at the same time. This is due to how the device switches from charge to usb mode thru the pin 4 . it senses rather a data cable or charge cable is being used . will not charge via otg..
there are several threads with experiments trying to get this work .You could use a wifi or bluethooth drive for data...
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Ofcourse there is charge and otg at the same time by just simply shorting pins 4 and 5 with a resistor,in my case for xperia p , a 100k resistor does it.
Timurs USB ROM from another site is what you want. Has links and everything you need.
I was going to do a car install as well but after sourceing parts and work estimates ( I want clean install, like stock) just more hassle than its worth for me. Please post pics if you get an install going.
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I know the KFHD7 can't power things plugged into the micro USB but assuming a USB hub or power from another source just having the data cable plug into it should work, right? I've tried a USB2 HDD and USB wireless mouse/keyboard and they don't work though, although they do on my Samsung Galaxy S3 using same apps to mount in case of the USB2 HDD.
If this is possible what am I missing to make it work?
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I know the KFHD7 can't power things plugged into the micro USB but assuming a USB hub or power from another source just having the data cable plug into it should work, right? I've tried a USB2 HDD and USB wireless mouse/keyboard and they don't work though, although they do on my Samsung Galaxy S3 using same apps to mount in case of the USB2 HDD.
If this is possible what am I missing to make it work?
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i m going to explain you why you cant use them (i bought a keyboard) amazon disabled usb otg in the kernel. i said amazon to turn it on. i contacted them 2 times, and nothing. i think, we have to contact them to enable it (all forum users) or pay me 35 dollars for a bluetooth keyboard!
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i m going to explain you why you cant use them (i bought a keyboard) amazon disabled usb otg in the kernel. i said amazon to turn it on. i contacted them 2 times, and nothing. i think, we have to contact them to enable it (all forum users) or pay me 35 dollars for a bluetooth keyboard!
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Damn, lack of USB OTG support is a real shame, I was hoping to use the KFHD7 as a portable media centre/laptop replacement but it might be impossible by the sound of it.
One thing i forgot to mention is that my KFHD7 is modified with TWRP and CM 10.1, runs really smooth compared to the stock software. But is USB OTG stillnot possible like it was on the original Kindle Fire? Seeing as this newer one uses a second bootloader and all.
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Damn, lack of USB OTG support is a real shame, I was hoping to use the KFHD7 as a portable media centre/laptop replacement but it might be impossible by the sound of it.
One thing i forgot to mention is that my KFHD7 is modified with TWRP and CM 10.1, runs really smooth compared to the stock software. But is USB OTG stillnot possible like it was on the original Kindle Fire? Seeing as this newer one uses a second bootloader and all.
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possible, but hashcode prefer to fix all bugs and then add it
Found this on amazon for the Vivo tab, which uses the same 36-pin connector as the TF701. So I bought it for $20US hoping it would work with the 701 and it does! Plugged in the OTG adapter and attached my sandisk extreme usb 3 thumbdrive. Used the included SD/uSD card adapter to connect a couple SD cards and had no problems. Didn't do any speed tests or anything, just wanted to make sure they worked, and they did.
ASUS Extension Kit for VivoTab-Series Tablets
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Found this on amazon for the Vivo tab, which uses the same 36-pin connector as the TF701. So I bought it for $20US hoping it would work with the 701 and it does! Plugged in the OTG adapter and attached my sandisk extreme usb 3 thumbdrive. Used the included SD/uSD card adapter to connect a couple SD cards and had no problems. Didn't do any speed tests or anything, just wanted to make sure they worked, and they did.
ASUS Extension Kit for VivoTab-Series Tablets
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Wow... Great find!
Hey - happen to have a PS3 controller you could test with? Almost bought the dock purely for this purpose, so I'm dying to know if plugging a controller in through USB would work...
If this really is fully supported by the tf701t, I'm seriously questioning why they didn't say so?
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Wow... Great find!
Hey - happen to have a PS3 controller you could test with? Almost bought the dock purely for this purpose, so I'm dying to know if plugging a controller in through USB would work...
If this really is fully supported by the tf701t, I'm seriously questioning why they didn't say so?
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Sorry, no, I don't have a PS3 controller.
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Sorry, no, I don't have a PS3 controller.
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No problem. There is another way to find out. Do you have a USB mouse and/or keyboard handy? If you wouldn't mind testing these basic peripherals, we could really verify if this thing provides host mode for more than disk drives.
If so, I'm buying!
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No problem. There is another way to find out. Do you have a USB mouse and/or keyboard handy? If you wouldn't mind testing these basic peripherals, we could really verify if this thing provides host mode for more than disk drives.
If so, I'm buying!
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Standard mouse and keyboard both work fine when plugged into the OTG adapter.
Shocking. Why in the world would Asus not bother marketing this toward the TF community too?!
Glad you found this. Thanks for sharing and testing... Off to buy!
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In 4 one. 9 left in stock. Now all I need is an extra usb cable. Can anyone point me to one?
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In 4 one. 9 left in stock. Now all I need is an extra usb cable. Can anyone point me to one?
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Yeah I just want the extra cable - assume any vivo tab one works?
OTG USB adapter
I have ordered one too. Thanks for the link. :cyclops:
OTG USB Adapter
That's good idea, but unfortunately I can't buy this thing. There are blutooth usb-hub, for example _ttp://usb.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00142
Will it work?
can someone find me the right product on the german amazon site? or uk?
i cant find
Can you charge and use USB with this?
Nice
Finaly, i recieved my OTG USB adapter today, and it works perfectly.
Thanks for the link.
or you can just buy the one meant for the transformer and it's a few dollars cheaper if you can't get the other one. Just doesn't come with the SD card adapter. This is the one that I intend to buy once I get my tablet
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or you can just buy the one meant for the transformer and it's a few dollars cheaper if you can't get the other one. Just doesn't come with the SD card adapter. This is the one that I intend to buy once I get my tablet
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Warning: This will not work with our TF701!!!!!! Read the Q&A below the product description !!
should the one for the tf700t also work?
The adapters mentioned that work with the 701 are all usb-2.
Does anyone know of a usb-3 adapter that will work?
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Can you charge and use USB with this?
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I'm considering getting a TF701T, does anyone know if you could use this to charge the device? It'd be nice to know I have a backup if the proprietary USB cable fails.
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I'm considering getting a TF701T, does anyone know if you could use this to charge the device? It'd be nice to know I have a backup if the proprietary USB cable fails.
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Also can you simultaneously power the device and provide input using a usb hub(plug in keyboard and mouse for example)?
I went to the computer store. Bought the following:
The adapter which is 2.0 by the way.
USB 3.0 HUB with Power Adaper.
A male to A male cable.
While connected to a the HUB, and while the device is on its says "NOT CHARGING". I turn it off(tablet), Not getting a charge while connected to a the hub. It also drained it while the tablet is off. Nevermind the hub for power.
NO CHARGE FROM HUB
While connected to the PC it drained the power down to 6% then went back up to 50%. Not sure about that because it seemed to charge while it was off.
NO CHARGE FROM PC
As for the power adapter that comes with the tablet to it. Not charging while ON. Turn it off and no charge.
NO CHARGE FROM ASUS POWER ADAPTER
SO no it doesnt charge in any practical sense from this VIVO adapter as far as i can tell. Maybe its the MALE to MALE cable. I dont know. But its not worth trying if there a chance of drain killing it.
Unfortunately from the adapter there is no media connection or usb debugging to pc or usb hub afiak.
NO MEDIA CONNECTION OR USB DEBUGGING
The good news is that the device can connect to the USB HUB and the keyboard , mouse and thumb drive work flawlessly together.
Hello all. Planning to get a MHL 2.0 cable for my note 3 but I also want to hook up a keyboard and mouse. I have a logitech k/b that uses wireless signal via a USB dongle. I figured the OTG cable would suffice but naturally once the MHL cable is in, there is no way to also use the OTG cable. Curious if there is some sort of hub that allows at least 1x micro usb and 1x full size usb, or some sort of splitter? I realize a bluetooth keyboard and mouse is probably another solution but would prefer to avoid if I could.
Thanks!
In other words, you want to make your phone a desktop computer?
yeh basically. Easier to work while on my lunch break. Thanks
Yes.
I made a pretty ghetto setup but it works.
What you will need is an OTG cable
A stand
And a powered USB hub
Mine is home made, but I believe they have this options made into a dock for this phone.
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I was hoping to do the same thing. But through bluetooth. I have a bluetooth keyboard that connects but I just got a lenovo n700 bluetooth mouse but my phone wouldn't recognize it. :/
The mouse connected to my ipad though...
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After my post I came across the Samsung Smart Dock, which looks to do what Im trying to accomplish. May invest in that, a little pricey though
As for the idea above, I still need to have a Micro USB for the MHL right? Or can I get an adapter to do USB to Micro USB to make it work?
You need an 11 pin adapter for MHL. Samsung and rocket fish sell the correct equipment.
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