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What are these screens supposed to look like? Mine seems OK except the touchscreen goes unresponsive at times. Also, colors are pretty dull and this thing has greys and gamma like a much inferior screen. Didn't reviews say the screen had great blacks, etc? I font have the ghost white hue glitch but it just seems generally washed out to me. Can others chime in?
Also, I know its a great deal so please don't flame, I want to just find out if others have a better experience or that mine is on the more defective end.
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Jayrod1980 said:
What are these screens supposed to look like? Mine seems OK except the touchscreen goes unresponsive at times. Also, colors are pretty dull and this thing has greys and gamma like a much inferior screen. Didn't reviews say the screen had great blacks, etc? I font have the ghost white hue glitch but it just seems generally washed out to me. Can others chime in?
Also, I know its a great deal so please don't flame, I want to just find out if others have a better experience or that mine is on the more defective end.
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Everything you just said is highly subjective. I love my screen. I think it's great. You may look at it and say its washed out and generally inferior. If you can't post pictures, there's nothing anyone here can do to help you sir. Some people undoubtedly are coming from ultra-high-end screens and will find this one lacking. Most, I think, do not.
My camera doesn't pick it up well but the Black's are not all that dark. I just thought the colors would be a little more saturated. This screen really doesn't look much better than a nook tablet. Its got higher resolution but the color and gamma and blacks are about the same. I guess I will find out once the replacement comes due to the touch issues.
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I've owned many different devices and my n7 is a bit washed out but not bad given the price. Hoping nice more dev builds up we can start playing around with fine tuning the screen
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The screen is easily the Nexus 7's weakest link, but considering the price... it's awesome. It took a little bit to get used to coming from the iPad 3 and its absolutely glorious screen, but I couldn't be happier with my N7.
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed the screen. My biggest problem though is the occasional unresponsiveness of the touchscreen. I'll check on the differences when I get a replacement sent to me. Thanks all for the replies
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I only notice the screen not looking great when I turn down the brightness to about 10-20%. On full brightness it looks amazing though...but I can deal with a little less than vibrant colors on my day-to-day use in order to extend the battery life.
Just glad we have 1280 vs the 1024 the Galaxy Tab 2 7 is using which is just a no go.
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Jayrod1980 said:
What are these screens supposed to look like? Mine seems OK except the touchscreen goes unresponsive at times. Also, colors are pretty dull and this thing has greys and gamma like a much inferior screen. Didn't reviews say the screen had great blacks, etc? I font have the ghost white hue glitch but it just seems generally washed out to me. Can others chime in?
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Have you played the Transformers movie at 30% to 50% brightness because I was blown away by the display when I did that?
The washed out screen was too much for me. I own the galaxy nexus and going from a super AMOLED screen to IPS was very jarring. The light bleeding on the Nexus 7 was pretty bad too, and when you touch the screen you get the 'air pocket' effect. The panel is definitely the worst thing about the device. I got the Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 instead and put CM9 on it, so much happier that I get deep deep blacks and can use it in landscape mode as well. Overall it is a much better tablet, I actually prefer watching movies on it than my 46inch Bravia TV :laugh: Its a very surreal experience, you have to see it to truly understand how amazing it looks
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The washed out screen was too much for me. I own the galaxy nexus and going from a super AMOLED screen to IPS was very jarring. The light bleeding on the Nexus 7 was pretty bad too, and when you touch the screen you get the 'air pocket' effect. The panel is definitely the worst thing about the device. I got the Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 instead and put CM9 on it, so much happier that I get deep deep blacks and can use it in landscape mode as well. Overall it is a much better tablet, I actually prefer watching movies on it than my 46inch Bravia TV :laugh: Its a very surreal experience, you have to see it to truly understand how amazing it looks
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Mine looks amazing, I think you just got a bad device.
I personally love mine. The screen doesn't blow me away but it isn't bad at all. I would appreciate the screen more if I didn't own a One X
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Same for me, if I didn't own a HTC One X, this would be the best screen I've owned on an android device.
But the fact I have a Motorola Xoom too, my Nexus 7 screen is much better!
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N7 screen is in fact a bit dull and washed out, especially on lower brightness (the fact that automatic backlight is calibrated as pretty dim does not help either).
The colours are much, much less vibrant as on my One X (but this phone has really got a top-end gorgeous screen).
However, screen on N7 is noticeably better than on Motorola Xoom in terms of color reproduction and viewing angles.
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N7 screen is in fact a bit dull and washed out, especially on lower brightness (the fact that automatic backlight is calibrated as pretty dim does not help either).
The colours are much, much less vibrant as on my One X (but this phone has really got a top-end gorgeous screen).
However, screen on N7 is noticeably better than on Motorola Xoom in terms of color reproduction and viewing angles.
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Ok, I'll agree here on auto brightness.
It was also too dull & washed out for me.
However, 50% fixed brightness is actually very bright and makes the colours great in my opinion.
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Are colors better on tab 2 7.0?
Nexus 7 has no green
Two things I've noticed about my screen so far, that makes me wonder if we're dealing with defective screens rather than just plain poor quality ones.
First, load an app or picture onto the device that just displays pure 0,0,255 green (if you search for 'dead pixel' I think the first or second app has options to display a solid colour). I find my Nexus is completely unable to display the green properly, instead showing an extremely washed out pastel shade. I've tested this with red and blue and neither of those suffer anything like the same issue as green does. This might be what is contributing to the weird washed out/off-colour look.
Second, this is purely anecdotal, but it seems like the brightness setting of the Nexus is purely software after around the halfway mark. You can easily see the backlight ramping up from 0-50% but beyond that just seems to be a gamma change, which doesn't brighten the screen at all and instead just washes it out further.
If anyone could follow up on these and post their own tests we might be able to get a better idea of where the real issues with this tablet lie. Or whether mine is just a little bit more broken than everyone else's.
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Mine looks amazing, I think you just got a bad device.
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I didn't have a bad device, I had a problem with the IPS technology used in the Nexus 7. If you compare a Super AMOLED plus screen to IPS it looks washed out, and the blacks are pretty poor...Also, you will always get a little bit of light bleeding because of the technology.
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I didn't have a bad device, I had a problem with the IPS technology used in the Nexus 7. If you compare a Super AMOLED plus screen to IPS it looks washed out, and the blacks are pretty poor...Also, you will always get a little bit of light bleeding because of the technology.
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Well, mine still looks amazing. I have a Super AMOLED Plus screen on my Galaxy Note, this looks pretty darn close.
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First, load an app or picture onto the device that just displays pure 0,0,255 green (if you search for 'dead pixel' I think the first or second app has options to display a solid colour). I find my Nexus is completely unable to display the green properly, instead showing an extremely washed out pastel shade. I've tested this with red and blue and neither of those suffer anything like the same issue as green does. This might be what is contributing to the weird washed out/off-colour look.
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That's normal.
Hi,
As unappealing as it is, our Nexus 4 has an IPS screen instead of an AMOLED screen, which in turn uses a lot more battery (black lights up to show you black, instead of turning off the pixel like on AMOLED), and doesn't give you the options needed to control your screen to display the right color.
Comparing to a stock HTC One S, which has AMOLED, red is dark red, green is too dull, gray has a lot more black, and black is dark blue. There is just no possible way to get out of this.
Even when I turned Green and Blue to 0, and set Red to 255, not to mention going to gamma and setting those to the proper options, so that the screen only shows red, it still shows dark red instead of the real red that the AMOLED screen produces.
So stop complaining, and either buy an AMOLED phone (any samsung) or try and replace the phone's screen with an AMOLED one.
If you want to test the values in the SPREADSHEET thread, be my guest, but I've literally tried every single value in there and red just doesn't feel red, and green is always dull. We just have to live with it.
can you really buy an amoled screen for your nexus ??
can you show me a link i wanna try
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can you really buy an amoled screen for your nexus ??
can you show me a link i wanna try
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lol no, but if you discovered a method please do tell us, i wouldn't mind doing it
*shrug* I personally feel the IPS display on the Nexus 4 does a much better job at displaying more true to life colors than any Amoled phone I've used before. But to each their own.
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Nothing like starting a new thread about something you do not want others to post about. Makes so much sense.
You are also probably the person who copies all in an email to say do not copy all. Of course after 40 other people did the same thing.
my previous phone was a GS3, the oversaturated colors of AMOLED panels might look nice in some cases, but the colors are not realistic, whites are never whites, they are grey, a lot of tinting and smearing problems, a very big chance of burn-in and ghosting problems even if you take care of your devices (happened to my galaxy nexus even though i used minimal brightness levels and 15sec screen-off, my burn in was under the notification and Navbar area). So IMO, and based on my own experience with AMOLED displays, i'd take an IPS LCD panel everytime.
Concerning our nexus 4 in particular, i've found that it depends from one device to another, my nexus 4 has absolutely an amazing display, beautiful colors, i'd say it's comparable to displays on HTC phones. Everytime i'd see a thread complaining about the display, washed out colors etc.. , i'd think it's just another troll. Then i saw my friend's phone, and damn those colors were really dull.
Another thing is , another friend and i have issues with delayed notifications over wifi, the friend with dull-colors-phone doesn't have it.
Conclusion: not all problems are present on all devices, it's very unfair to generalize. Maybe your display is on the "bad side" , or maybe your are used to AMOLED displays and actually like them more. It's a matter of personal taste.
An untuned ips screen just makes the device feel low end and cheap. Much like a cheap acer tablet, an untuned screen of a nexus 10 looks like crap. With an amoled screen it feels vivid and pleasing to the eye, sunsets in movies feel warmer and scenes look much more dramatic. Its not about how close something looks like in real life, its about immersing yourself in a more vivid experience. Amoled and ips screen with color enhancement all day.
Thread title: stop complaining!
OP: complaining
Lesson: WAT?
Anyway I'm tired of glorifying cartoonish pentile amoled displays. Sureal colors, yellow-grayish whites, almost no visibility under sunlight... I do a little photo editing, and comparing amoled and ips it's almost impossible. LCD provides better viewing angles, brightness (whites on the n4 are superb), and true colors (on amoled photos look like they've been applied thousand filters, over saturated).
N4, Cataclysm+Franco
first of all, i only made this thread to stop this chaos and to stop those annoying people who complain about it.
Also, I'm not complaining about anything, i love my screen, i think it's a definite improvement from the desire z that i used to own. But again this thread is meant to stop other users from making threads like this, and just live with it.
so the lesson isn't "WAT", and OP isn't "complaining"... the lesson is the title.
thank you.
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Riro Zizo said:
first of all, i only made this thread to stop this chaos and to stop those annoying people who complain about it.
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You made a thread to stop people complaining, by making a thread for people to complain in .
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lol!
people are people, they will complain no matter what. just like you are doing, and you even started/wasted a thread with your complaint
Idk why people buy the n4 if they dont like IPS i bought the n4 and i WANTED a IPS display i dont want amocrap... 5 minutes on a s3 and my eyes are bleeding...
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I think some of the people is comparing our so called IPS screen to other IPS screens, not AMOLED.
The screen in Nexus 4 is less colorful than the other LG IPS screen phone, which are all produced from LG.
IMO our screen is indeed "worse" than the one LG uses in their flagship phones.
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lol!
people are people, they will complain no matter what. just like you are doing, and you even started/wasted a thread with your complaint
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again, this isn't a complaint. and if people wanna complain, then do it in this single thread, it's certainly better than every user creating a thread for it.
ruzkay said:
Idk why people buy the n4 if they dont like IPS i bought the n4 and i WANTED a IPS display i dont want amocrap... 5 minutes on a s3 and my eyes are bleeding...
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i bought a nexus 4 because of the dev support, the fast updates, and the stock android. but i got stuck with an IPS screen... who cares anyway, i love it
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Riro Zizo said:
i bought a nexus 4 because of the dev support, the fast updates, and the stock android. but i got stuck with an IPS screen... who cares anyway, i love it
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A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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Nexus 4 has a really nice display IMO..
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again, this isn't a complaint. and if people wanna complain, then do it in this single thread, it's certainly better than every user creating a thread for it.
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i just read your post again.. sounds to me like youre complaining about people posting about screen color.
now, not everyone wants to adjust their sceeen color to look like an samoled. some people just want to adjust the tone/gamma, to be more pleasing to their eyes. some do want to make it look like an amoled(which we know isnt possible). even though its impossible to make our screens to look like samoleds, it is possible to adjust them so colors will appear more vivid, have more "pop". of course its not going to be the same as an samoled, but it will appear closer. why does it bother you so much that these people want to do that? as you know, what you might feel as appealing might not be appealing to others, or vice versa. and yes, all our n4 screens variate as well. some of the variations ive seen id change the screen colors/gamma to anything besides what it came with default. personally, im happy with mine screen color
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I think some of the people is comparing our so called IPS screen to other IPS screens, not AMOLED.
The screen in Nexus 4 is less colorful than the other LG IPS screen phone, which are all produced from LG.
IMO our screen is indeed "worse" than the one LG uses in their flagship phones.
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So root it, flash custom kernel and load color profile you like. I agree stock colors are washed out but now it's on pair with iphone5
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rayiskon said:
A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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galaxy nexus' white color is pure yellow, i've compared it directly to my stock screen colors.
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i just read your post again.. sounds to me like youre complaining about people posting about screen color.
now, not everyone wants to adjust their sceeen color to look like an samoled. some people just want to adjust the tone/gamma, to be more pleasing to their eyes. some do want to make it look like an amoled(which we know isnt possible). even though its impossible to make our screens to look like samoleds, it is possible to adjust them so colors will appear more vivid, have more "pop". of course its not going to be the same as an samoled, but it will appear closer. why does it bother you so much that these people want to do that? as you know, what you might feel as appealing might not be appealing to others, or vice versa. and yes, all our n4 screens variate as well. some of the variations ive seen id change the screen colors/gamma to anything besides what it came with default. personally, im happy with mine screen color
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ok... I'll shut up
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rayiskon said:
A galaxy nexus would've provided you with all that, and you would've got an amoled display that you seem to like more.
If the nexus 4 had an amoled display, i'm pretty sure i would've skipped it.
It's a matter of taste after all
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In my opinion, the GNEX screen was one of the worst screens I have seen...
Which values are you using at whuch brightness intensity?
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Yellows just can't be gotten rid of. Beside my Nexus 7 2013 it just looks BAD.
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BH904
Yellows just can't be gotten rid of. Beside my Nexus 7 2013 it just looks BAD.
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Try blue on 150-200 if you have yellow tint
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I love the yellow tint and set it Red and Green to 120 and Blue 0.
When I read on the screen my eyes like it.
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Try blue on 150-200 if you have yellow tint
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It's not that the display is not becoming white it's that the whites and other colours are so off. When I use the device I have no qualms but when I put it beside my tablet I realize how bad the colours on the display are. The N7 2013 has amazing calibration. I wish Sony adds changes calibration app of this to be like the Z's. Hue and Saturation controls are there.
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I have no problems with the Yellow hue, changed recently my phone with warranty (and I was damn right, it works a LOT better than my other one).
At first the screen of my actual unit was a lot more yellow than the one of the phone I was sending back, so I was really worried. But with just a Factory reset the screen went back to what it was like on my previous Z1. Plus I went to settings and found the White Balance Settings.
Now the Yellow is gone at 98% (I have a very good eyesight) and colours are gorgeous. It blows the Retina of an iPhone 5, it is a real pleasure to watch movies on the screen. Only thing I regret is that with max brightness and low ambiant light, blacks levels looks a bit grayish. Maybe that is why AMOLED users are fan of this kind of screen, I haven't tried to see if AMOLED has the same problem.
Otherwise I don't have any problems.
My settings are 23 red 16 green 78 blue.
So just noticed the screen STILL has grain to it. If you look close it looks hazy and grainy like film grain. You can see it on whites easily and in lower brightness.
I wonder if Samsung can ever fix this.
Also the screen has lines on it on low brightness on grey and white areas. Also very annoying.
Anyone else notice this?
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Lostatsea23 said:
So just noticed the screen STILL has grain to it. If you look close it looks hazy and grainy like film grain. You can see it on whites easily and in lower brightness.
I wonder if Samsung can ever fix this.
Also the screen has lines on it on low brightness on grey and white areas. Also very annoying.
Anyone else notice this?
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Yes. I noticed this all the way back to the S2. I was actually wishing they would go with an IPS screen for the S5.
Yeah this is annoying me to no end. The note 3 had it worse since it was bigger and had only 1080p still. Honestly I love the screen colors and such but my eyes are really sensitive to all this and I am a photographer and work with calibrated devices all day :/ I'd what to do. I'd go with the m8 but the phone is way too big
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Lostatsea23 said:
Yeah this is annoying me to no end. The note 3 had it worse since it was bigger and had only 1080p still. Honestly I love the screen colors and such but my eyes are really sensitive to all this and I am a photographer and work with calibrated devices all day :/ I'd what to do. I'd go with the m8 but the phone is way too big
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I don't know what to tell ya. It's bothered me, but its one of those perks that comes with Super Amoled technology. :/ This is why I prefer the iPhone's screen to amoled.
Damn Samsung lol. My girlfriend hates that I swap phones so much lol but I just paid 700 for this and I want to be content... guess I'll wait a little and see how I adjust to it
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It's a sacrifice to have infinite contrast? I had the M7 and I have no idea what you are talking about. what did you ever do before 720p displays and before the iPhone 4? Holy crap.
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Infinite contrast isn't that appealing to me. Accurate colors and sharp screens without grain and horrible color shifting or tinting is.
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I don't hold the phone to my face so I can't really tell. Compared to the n2 I came from its world's better.
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so qhd display yea it looks nice but u hardly can tell at this point because theres really no support for it. no biggie i guess but its over hyped.
also why do the whites look yellowish on the display then the fhd on g2?
Whites look white to me. Get a color card from a photographer friend and compare under full-spectrum lighting. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Whites look white to me. Get a color card from a photographer friend and compare under full-spectrum lighting. Maybe I'm wrong.
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comparing it side by side with my g2 the whites on the g3 have a yellow tint to it.
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comparing it side by side with my g2 the whites on the g3 have a yellow tint to it.
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Are you sure the G2 doesn't have a blue tint?
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Are you sure the G2 doesn't have a blue tint?
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no i wouldnt say it has a blue tint.
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no i wouldnt say it has a blue tint.
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Interesting.I wouldn't say my G3 has a yellow tint. Get a color card. We're both just going off of our subjective impressions of what white should look like.
I looked at this phone side by side my note 3 at Sprint and you are blind if you can't see difference in the screen. It clearly has more ppi and resolution
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I think you need to see an eye doctor
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I looked at this phone side by side my note 3 at Sprint and you are blind if you can't see difference in the screen. It clearly has more ppi and resolution
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im not saying i cant see a difference its just not as big as a difference and its over hyped.
theres not much u can look at to get the full quality of the qhd display. no apps support it yet.
yt just got 1080p.
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im not saying i cant see a difference its just not as big as a difference and its over hyped.
theres not much u can look at to get the full quality of the qhd display. no apps support it yet.
yt just got 1080p.
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I understand that but they will be and for the time being photos and videos will be better
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Interesting.I wouldn't say my G3 has a yellow tint. Get a color card. We're both just going off of our subjective impressions of what white should look like.
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the whites are more yellowish compared to the z2 as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40svMtxUk80&feature=player_detailpage#t=838
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the whites are more yellowish compared to the z2 as well
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Dude, no, just no.
I have a galaxy S2 which I believed to have bright and vibrant whites. I was at church with my buddy and we were comparing the white of the S2 and G3 with a church bulletin (Completely white plain paper color) and my S2 was horribly blue. His white was yellow by comparison to my phone, but 100% accurate to the real white of plain paper.
Phones jack up the cool blues to give the impression of a better "white" but that doesn't make it true and accurate to real life.
We already have a thread about the G3 screen here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782251
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