Water proof after board replacement? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
A weird question...
So I have had my phone repaired under warranty thru JB Hifi (a brick and mortar place chain in Australia). The repairer supposely replaced the board as it was completely dead (the IMEI # is different so I believe they did replace it). I am not 100% if the water "proofness" still exists now that the board is replaced...
How would I do a quick test and where would I stand in the warranty side of things if the phone dies after the test?
Anyone have any idea?
Cheers,
Yots.

yotis118 said:
How would I do a quick test and where would I stand in the warranty side of things if the phone dies after the test?
Anyone have any idea?
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Put it under water!

eclyptos said:
Put it under water!
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And if it dies?

Normally they do a waterproof test at the end ...

Try putting it under water for a millisecond or so, take it out and see if anything happened.

yotis118 said:
And if it dies?
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That mean the test was wrong. ..haha..
BTW, they repaired the phone and is under warranty , they know they job and sholud be seal well so I don't know why you are worry.

eclyptos said:
That mean the test was wrong. ..haha..
BTW, they repaired the phone and is under warranty , they know they job and sholud be seal well so I don't know why you are worry.
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I have contacted Sony support and they told me it sounds like the phone needs servicing by their service centre. They mentioned that since its not repaired by them, the water resistance feature might not have been tested/done..
Going to call them monday and organise it to be serviced me think.

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[Q] Galaxy mini in water !!!!

Guys terror struck my phone ... i dropped it in water ....tho it was immersed for a short time maybe 1-3 secs....
it was on wen it fell and was still workingg..... so immediatly i turned it off and dried it and kept it in a bowl of rice overnight..... today wen i plugged my battery the phone didnt turn on....! so i kept it to dry ............ tomorrow i will take it to service center .....
also there a wierd red dot that has appeared on the body.....
my phone is still under warranty so i will take to service center.... Is there any chance it will survive???? coz i wont get another phone if i lose this.....plz help
EDIT: it is turning on now but screen is watered
Sorry but that red dot usually means u ain't covered from warranty, because of water damage
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A5D said:
Guys terror struck my phone ... i dropped it in water ....tho it was immersed for a short time maybe 1-3 secs....
it was on wen it fell and was still workingg..... so immediatly i turned it off and dried it and kept it in a bowl of rice overnight..... today wen i plugged my battery the phone didnt turn on....! so i kept it to dry ............ tomorrow i will take it to service center .....
also there a wierd red dot that has appeared on the body.....
my phone is still under warranty so i will take to service center.... Is there any chance it will survive???? coz i wont get another phone if i lose this.....plz help
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well, if it is like wat teams said, then there is no luck, try the local repair guy, sometimes they are much resourceful
TeaMsTaZ said:
Sorry but that red dot usually means u ain't covered from warranty, because of water damage
Sent from CM9 ICS HP Touchpad
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could you explain about the red dot? sounds interesting
Madarao said:
well, if it is like wat teams said, then there is no luck, try the local repair guy, sometimes they are much resourceful
could you explain about the red dot? sounds interesting
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i searched up google and it tells me that red dot is indicator of water damage to phone..... after drying up i can boot phone... it is turning on... i havent tested other functions cuz i found some more water so i left it to dry..........
i will take it to samsung tomorrow and hope for best...
Please take a picture of the red dot. I wanna see it.
And maybe we can put a waterproof sticker over the red sticker so that when the phone actually does fall in water it won't turn red. Then remove the waterproof sticker and give it to the service center.
boaxfux said:
Please take a picture of the red dot. I wanna see it.
And maybe we can put a waterproof sticker over the red sticker so that when the phone actually does fall in water it won't turn red. Then remove the waterproof sticker and give it to the service center.
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water proof sticker wot help cuz besides tha internal circuit also has some water damage stickers
ill try put up that pic....
the phone is booting and everything(speaker,touchscreen camera ....) working but i cant test call speaker or sim coz as soon a s i plug in sim , the phone doesnt boot cuz still some water is present in sim slot.... also i have cyanogen installed rigt now... so if i take the phone to samsung service will he void my warranty by seeing a custom rom with root??
A5D said:
water proof sticker wot help cuz besides tha internal circuit also has some water damage stickers
ill try put up that pic....
the phone is booting and everything(speaker,touchscreen camera ....) working but i cant test call speaker or sim coz as soon a s i plug in sim , the phone doesnt boot cuz still some water is present in sim slot.... also i have cyanogen installed rigt now... so if i take the phone to samsung service will he void my warranty by seeing a custom rom with root??
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Oh you are that Delhi guy. Remember me
And for your phone.
Did you tried downloading mode. If working flash the stock rom. Then took it to Samsung guys.
But I think you should let it dry first fully and try your luck.
Better try with a dryer after removing the battery.
Yeah better let it dry first. I think putting the phone in a bowl of rice helps as well.
Edit: This might help.
nishanty13 said:
Oh you are that Delhi guy. Remember me
And for your phone.
Did you tried downloading mode. If working flash the stock rom. Then took it to Samsung guys.
But I think you should let it dry first fully and try your luck.
Better try with a dryer after removing the battery.
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i dried it in a bowl of rice.... everything works fine now... i took it to samsung ....and luckily the repair guy cudnt figure out i was running custom ROM... I told him it was just an app
boaxfux said:
Yeah better let it dry first. I think putting the phone in a bowl of rice helps as well.
Edit: This might help.
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mini survived drowning for a few secs.....!
incase someone else does that same .. i recommend pulling it out as soon as possible and pull the batrry and kepp it in a bag of rice for atleast 2 days...
A5D said:
i dried it in a bowl of rice.... everything works fine now... i took it to samsung ....and luckily the repair guy cudnt figure out i was running custom ROM... I told him it was just an app
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Warranty is void anyway because of the awesome red dot stickers, so you could have told him since you'll be paying for the repair. But if telling CM7 is just an app worked then that is going to help a lot of Mini users claim their warranty. Thanks for sharing, man.
boaxfux said:
Warranty is void anyway because of the awesome red dot stickers, so you could have told him since you'll be paying for the repair. But if telling CM7 is just an app worked then that is going to help a lot of Mini users claim their warranty. Thanks for sharing, man.
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Trust me, the Service Centre guys are that much Educated, that they don't even know about Custom ROMs and to detect whether the ROM is rooted or not.
coolsandie said:
Trust me, the Service Centre guys are that much Educated, that they don't even know about Custom ROMs and to detect whether the ROM is rooted or not.
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but it worth trying.
you may be very lucky to met a stupid one.
coolsandie said:
Trust me, the Service Centre guys are that much Educated, that they don't even know about Custom ROMs and to detect whether the ROM is rooted or not.
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In my experience,for hardware damange they don't check your phone/ROM .... they only connect to kies when they need to check software
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A5D said:
In my experience,for hardware damange they don't check your phone/ROM .... they only connect to kies when they need to check software
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You referring to the current situation (Water damage, but Phone's working) or a fully bricked state.
And, they think Kies software would detect the Phone with a fully bricked state?
And if the phone is working, how much time would it take to look on "About Phone" section. From there, the Service Centre guys could easily detect whether Custom ROM is installed or not.
coolsandie said:
You referring to the current situation (Water damage, but Phone's working) or a fully bricked state.
And, they think Kies software would detect the Phone with a fully bricked state?
And if the phone is working, how much time would it take to look on "About Phone" section. From there, the Service Centre guys could easily detect whether Custom ROM is installed or not.
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if it aint brick then they will surely find it out...
good luck but unfortunately I don't thing it's going to be alive again...please let us know...
There is no waranty that covers water damage to the phone. Only phone insurance wich i doubt you have. If they inspect your phone, they will void your waranty because no matter how much you dried it, water leaves marks. Anyway, if the screen is ok and the phone boots up, you wont have to pay that much for the reparation.
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coolsandie said:
You referring to the current situation (Water damage, but Phone's working) or a fully bricked state.
And, they think Kies software would detect the Phone with a fully bricked state?
And if the phone is working, how much time would it take to look on "About Phone" section. From there, the Service Centre guys could easily detect whether Custom ROM is installed or not.
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You may be right that they can check in "About Phone".
But I have witnessed cases that the service center guys acts like totally idiot and can be easily fooled.
I think most of them don't have knowledge and they just do a GOOGLE SEARCH.
Once I told them to repair my headphones just after 7 days of purchase they asked me to give my phone, I asked Why?
They (she)replied: we have to check phone. She typed some number on the dial *#*#1234...something and some other number to get details.
I even asked them to upgrade it to gingerbread from froyo and i gave my phone.
Then next day I came to get my phone with repaired headphones
and those foolish! Mad ass people reflashed muy phone with what: froyo over froyo and i lost everything.
I asked (in anger) why did you reflashed with old one. In that they said gingerbread is not yet available.
As far as for flashing they surely used kies.
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jufama said:
good luck but unfortunately I don't thing it's going to be alive again...please let us know...
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it is alive

Cost of Motherboard

Hi.. Does anyone have any idea on whats the approx price of the Motherboard of our ACE in India. Checked in few Samsung service centers but got different quotation from diferent service centers varying from INR 3K to INR 4450.
Thanks
Jei
jeikumar said:
Hi.. Does anyone have any idea on whats the approx price of the Motherboard of our ACE in India. Checked in few Samsung service centers but got different quotation from diferent service centers varying from INR 3K to INR 4450.
Thanks
Jei
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Yeah. You wont gettit any cheaper.
In fact, 3k is actually a pretty good deal.
Kabir Saxena said:
Yeah. You wont gettit any cheaper.
In fact, 3k is actually a pretty good deal.
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Thanks Pal. Yeah, 3K seems to be THE cheapest price i got after checking many Samsung Service centers at the moment but not sure how it can vary this drastically. Wondering if it would be original board. Anyway shall check again.
BTW, do we get these kinda motherboards in open market so we can fix it ourselves?
Thanks
Jei Kumar
Did you brick your device or something?
The samsung service center guys always say that you need to replace the motherboard to unbrick it. But actually, they just use jtag to fix your device! If you have warranty, you need not worry. But if you don't, then it is very difficult to get your phone fixed.
The last time I bricked my phone, they said the motherboard is 5000k.
Good luck!
galaxyace152 said:
Did you brick your device or something?
The samsung service center guys always say that you need to replace the motherboard to unbrick it. But actually, they just use jtag to fix your device! If you have warranty, you need not worry. But if you don't, then it is very difficult to get your phone fixed.
The last time I bricked my phone, they said the motherboard is 5000k.
Good luck!
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Havent bricked yet but got water poured on it accidently. Its functioning all well but got problem with charging. The battery icon graphic shows the "charging" status even after unplugged. And much worse is the phone gets switched off in 15-20 mins though it was put on charge for hours together.
The warranty is over so had dis assembled every accessory from the motherboard and tried cleaning the board and power connector unit with spirit, axe/denim deodarant and what not.... no good so far...
Surpise is, the phone still works well while its on ... Love this phone
jeikumar said:
Havent bricked yet but got water poured on it accidently. Its functioning all well but got problem with charging. The battery icon graphic shows the "charging" status even after unplugged. And much worse is the phone gets switched off in 15-20 mins though it was put on charge for hours together.
The warranty is over so had dis assembled every accessory from the motherboard and tried cleaning the board and power connector unit with spirit, axe/denim deodarant and what not.... no good so far...
Surpise is, the phone still works well while its on ... Love this phone
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Well. Maybe your only hope is the service center.
BTW...I live in Chennai too! :laugh:
galaxyace152 said:
Well. Maybe your only hope is the service center.
BTW...I live in Chennai too! :laugh:
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When checked the same service cemter today, they claim the price to be INR 4400
Had asked them if they can get me the board so i can fix it myself but it also seem to be not possible as they claim the board would be blank without any IMEI # and they had to update the board with my IMEI #
Seems like no other option now than to replace the board.
Thanks everyone.

[Q] A repair shop replaced my digitizer with a non-working, how to prove it?

Hello, recently, my phone fell in the water.
I gave it to an repair shop named "My Mobiles".
The place looked like they "couldn't" scam people.
After two days of "servicing", they showed me the mobile.
They said that sometimes the phone wouldn't on.
The touch screen was working perfectly, someone showed me the working of the mobile, unlocked the lockscreen, scrolled through the different home screens.
They would service for another day, flash, and return it back to me.
The next day, they gave it to me.
They said that the touchscreen wasn't working perfectly in some places.
I wanted to test it, they said that the electricity wasn't there and they couldn't charge right now.
I went home with my mobile.
I charged it for a long time.
Then, when I turned it one, I couldn't access the touchscreen whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure that they replaced the digitizer with an non-working one.
But, I'm not sure how to prove it. So, is there any documentation provided that says that can identify the id of my digitizer?
I live in India, and good people here are a million-to-one.
What can I do?
Thank you.
Pull them in consumer court
see boot animation without rebooting
Gogeta said:
Pull them in consumer court
see boot animation without rebooting
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Hah, yeah.
But how do I confirm about the digitizer?
I have to confirm that I'm right.
So, how do I do that?
Or is it just better to buy a digitizer?
(I sincerely don't see any point arguing with a bunch of dumbasses in a room full of "judges")
How much would the digitizer cost and which trusted place do I get it from?
I would recommend you to take your phone to that shop once more..
They must fix any error they made..
Or it would be better to take your parents along with you..(if you are a kid..)
MeTaL_StaR said:
Hah, yeah.
But how do I confirm about the digitizer?
I have to confirm that I'm right.
So, how do I do that?
Or is it just better to buy a digitizer?
(I sincerely don't see any point arguing with a bunch of dumbasses in a room full of "judges")
How much would the digitizer cost and which trusted place do I get it from?
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EBay
dagger said:
I would recommend you to take your phone to that shop once more..
They must fix any error they made..
Or it would be better to take your parents along with you..(if you are a kid..)
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Thanked for music.apk
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There are not much you can do, just go back to them and complain.
But maybe its not their fault.
my phone fell in the water
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Maybe your motherboard is affected as well...
Gogeta said:
EBay
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Is EBay to be trusted?
Or is there any other site that's more trusted?
stamatis said:
There are not much you can do, just go back to them and complain.
But maybe its not their fault.
Maybe your motherboard is affected as well...
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Yeah, I did think of that, but the previous day, the digitizer was working, atleast accessible.
But, the next day, it didn't even respond.. I don't understand how that could that happen !
They did say that "it's an motherboard problem", but the mobile is working perfectly other than the battery and the touchscreen..
And, has someone used a new digitizer, successfully?
Is there any tutorial to replace the digitizer? I did find this : http://erkinson.altervista.org/en/sony-ericsson-xperia-x8-smontaggio-e-sostituzione-display-touch/
But, it isn't mentioned perfectly how to replace it..
@op
EBay is very trusted. I'm a one customer
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MeTaL_StaR said:
Is there any tutorial to replace the digitizer? I did find this : http://erkinson.altervista.org/en/sony-ericsson-xperia-x8-smontaggio-e-sostituzione-display-touch/
But, it isn't mentioned perfectly how to replace it..
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Why not? It shows you what you have to remove(1 and 2) to replace digitizer. Then whatever you remove you place it back, while you are replacing the digitizer.
If you are not familiar with this stuff i advise you to leave it to someone who know how to do it.
ScatteredHell said:
@op
EBay is very trusted. I'm a one customer
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Okay, I'll give it a try !
stamatis said:
Why not? It shows you what you have to remove(1 and 2) to replace digitizer. Then whatever you remove you place it back, while you are replacing the digitizer.
If you are not familiar with this stuff i advise you to leave it to someone who know how to do it.
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Okay, thank you ! Hope I don't brick it literally!
why dont take it to sony center

xperia Z Vibrate Motor replacement still not working.

ok so i brought a used xperia z a couple of months ago well knowing that the vibration motor was not working as i planned to fix it. but now i have my new replacement motor and i placed it in the xperia z and the vibration still does not work...
i cant think of any possible thing i did wrong...
xdarkmario said:
ok so i brought a used xperia z a couple of months ago well knowing that the vibration motor was not working as i planned to fix it. but now i have my new replacement motor and i placed it in the xperia z and the vibration still does not work...
i cant think of any possible thing i did wrong...
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It could be an IC problem or something else other than motor problem.
I remember, one of my device had more soldering wax which was clogging the connections of my speakers.
The point being it could be actually anything really.
Why don't you show it to a technician huh?
Quote me in case you expect a reply. Good Luck
Hnk1 said:
It could be an IC problem or something else other than motor problem.
I remember, one of my device had more soldering wax which was clogging the connections of my speakers.
The point being it could be actually anything really.
Why don't you show it to a technician huh?
Quote me in case you expect a reply. Good Luck
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what is IC?
xdarkmario said:
what is IC?
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An integrated circuit or monolithic integrated circuit (also referred to as an IC, a chip, or a microchip) is a set of electronic circuits on one small plate ("chip") of semiconductor material, normally silicon.
Hnk1 said:
An integrated circuit or monolithic integrated circuit (also referred to as an IC, a chip, or a microchip) is a set of electronic circuits on one small plate ("chip") of semiconductor material, normally silicon.
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oh ok, so your saying it could be a motherboard issue?
xdarkmario said:
oh ok, so your saying it could be a motherboard issue?
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All I'm saying is you should show it to a technician to pin point the problem. It could be anything from loose connection, fried IC , faulty vibration motor.
You can not be sure unless you physically check it.
Hnk1 said:
All I'm saying is you should show it to a technician to pin point the problem. It could be anything from loose connection, fried IC , faulty vibration motor.
You can not be sure unless you physically check it.
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I am a tec lol, I do computer & phone repair (not a licensed Sony tec though) and there's no possibility of Me showing it to a tec, I opened and installed rom.
xdarkmario said:
I am a tec lol, I do computer & phone repair (not a licensed Sony tec though) and there's no possibility of Me showing it to a tec, I opened and installed rom.
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Then all I can say is best of luck. I hope you work it out
Vibrator solution
You can find my solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57925125&postcount=33
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/xperia-z-vibration-problem-experiment-t2211553/page4
Personally tested 100% working
Last time I got this problem and went to a services center. They told me need to change the vibrator and whole screen... cost me quite a fortune...
jerryhou85 said:
Last time I got this problem and went to a services center. They told me need to change the vibrator and whole screen... cost me quite a fortune...
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Well they really bs on that screen part,they have nothing to do with that.
But I upgraded to the Z1 now so this is irrelevant now.
*#*#SERVICE#*#*
there you can make a directly vibration test.

Brick my Note 8 to warranty

I have a problem with my Note 8, the speaker has gotten wet a little over two weeks ago and it is not working well, I have not even submerged the phone, so I called Samsung's warranty and they tell me that the warranty does not cover that type of sinister for which I have to pay for the repair, then I want to brick my device to the point that I never turn it on again and so I change it for a new one, does anyone know how I can definitely brick? my version is Exynos, I tried to flash the firmware of the SD version but Odin will not let me do it.
cygnus56 said:
I have a problem with my Note 8, the speaker has gotten wet a little over two weeks ago and it is not working well, I have not even submerged the phone, so I called Samsung's warranty and they tell me that the warranty does not cover that type of sinister for which I have to pay for the repair, then I want to brick my device to the point that I never turn it on again and so I change it for a new one, does anyone know how I can definitely brick? my version is Exynos, I tried to flash the firmware of the SD version but Odin will not let me do it.
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Are you for real?
kxdaorbit said:
Are you for real?
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it's real
cygnus56 said:
it's real
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I have a home owners insurance that covers theft, loss or damage to mobile devices too. Maybe you could try that if you have one too. BTW why isn`t water damage covered when its IP 68 rated?
gee2012 said:
I have a home owners insurance that covers theft, loss or damage to mobile devices too. Maybe you could try that if you have one too. BTW why isn`t water damage covered when its IP 68 rated?
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It looks like my previous post did not post so i will repeat it. The reason it isnt covered is because theres no way to prove the phone did not go past the IP68 rated depth or timeframe.
To the OP. Sadly your method will mostlikely not work and you will be without a phone altogether because you already called and "admitted" water damage. Because of that your warranty is probably void altogether.
cygnus56 said:
I have a problem with my Note 8, the speaker has gotten wet a little over two weeks ago and it is not working well, I have not even submerged the phone, so I called Samsung's warranty and they tell me that the warranty does not cover that type of sinister for which I have to pay for the repair, then I want to brick my device to the point that I never turn it on again and so I change it for a new one, does anyone know how I can definitely brick? my version is Exynos, I tried to flash the firmware of the SD version but Odin will not let me do it.
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What you are asking is help to commit FRAUD!
Wont get help for this on XDA, period!
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