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First off... The Good:
It seems to protect the screen really well, I like that I can put it in my pocket and not worry about the screen. Even though I carry just my phone in that pocket, I still manage to get scratches on a screen protector. I know the protectors scratch easier, but its still the only thing in there...
Its slim and does not add bulk to an already very large phone.
The lining helps keep fingerprints to a minimum.
It looks really good.
The Bad:
It only protects the screen... and only when in your pocket. It does not latch closed in any way, so if you drop the phone it can come open during the fall, or if you put it in a pocket or purse with other objects, they can work under the cover. Flat objects (say an MP3 player, would probably be fine)
The back and sides are not protected in any way, so some may not like that.
The Ugly:
Its designed all wrong... it is... Most of the worlds population is right handed, yet this cover is designed to best work for a left handed person. (and even the copies, and heck even the iPad "smart" cover do this)
As a right handed person, when I use my phone, I usually hold it in my left hand, and interact with the screen with my right hand... this is doubly true for this phone due to the stylus.
Even when using it one handed, the case flips open the wrong direction. It opens toward my thumb when holding it in my left hand. So instead of grabbing the phone, and using my thumb to just flip it open and let it hang there as I type out a quick text, IM, or other such actions, I must use both hands to open the cover.
I also keep my phone in my left front pocket, because it allows me to grab the phone with the hand that holds it the most, as I want my right hand free to do other things or to interact with the phone. If I kept the phone on my right side, this issue would admittingly be less a hassle, but I have other important things over there... My Space pen (as it is compact and slips in my key pocket easy) Keys... a pocket knife with a pocket clip... I even started carrying other things in my right pocket that normally went into the left, before phones became too large, and in-pocket slip cases with clips became extinct.
Think I am full of it or just complaining? If you have a flip cover, try this little experiment.
Put the phone down, cover closed, and pick it up with your left hand, and then open the cover.
Now put the phone down, and place it upside down (top of phone pointing down, so the screen is upside down when looking at it) so the cover opens to the other direction.
Pick the phone back up with your left hand and open the cover again.
See how much easier it is to manipulate?
Final thoughts:
I really want to like this thing... and I do in a lot of ways, but I will definitely need to spend a little time with it to see if I can overlook its major shortcoming.
Why Samsung didn't make two versions, one that opened each direction, I don't know...
They have some TPU style cases that include a flip cover, and the Note II is fairly symmetrical, so a little modification might allow one of those to be put on backwards, and then work as I want.
Edit:
Returned the flip cover today... it just didn't work for me. If you like it and it works, good on you and stick with it.
I ordered a TPU case and will see how that does.
I am having issues with the larger size of this phone, one handed operation is not easy. Mostly it is getting to the back button, and the "send" button for messages. (as the enter button does not send) I may or may not be keeping the phone... we will see.
I always use my phone with my right hand, but I rarely use the stylus. Landscape keyboard typing is faster and I don't care to draw or hand write much. I'm surprised it doesn't have a way of staying shut - that really defeats the purpose of it.
I work aviation... and quite often I find myself crammed into small places working, and can't spare or get my right hand to my pockets (or where ever I placed the phone) very easily. Plus just general moving around about the house, I use my phones with my left hand. I like having my right hand free just in case I need to do something.
So far, I'm always holding the Note with my left hand, and writing with the s-pen with my right hand (or thumb typing in portrait with both hands).The flip cover makes sense to me as the edge of the cover isn't digging into my (left) palm when my left hand is cradling the phone.
To each their own!
Marine6680 said:
I like having my right hand free just in case I need to do something.
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What about taking pictures though. Seems like it may be a hassle to take pictures with the flip case
Um...which is my left hand and which is my right?:cyclops:
JK...yeah OP I agree with a lot of what you say...I'm not a huge fan of the cover.
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What about taking pictures though. Seems like it may be a hassle to take pictures with the flip case
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Seems like anything with the flip cover on the phone is a hassle, still like it but needs some side protection
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What about taking pictures though. Seems like it may be a hassle to take pictures with the flip case
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That's a pretty good point. I bet a lot of people don't think about that before buying it.
I agree with the OP, but I have to say the stock flip case is the coolest case I have ever seen. It adds almost no bulk to the phone and protects the screen perfectly. I, and everyone who has seen mine, LOVE it.
I have one and can use it with right or left hand no problem, you just get use to it. It's not ideal for everything, but it's workable.
As for using the camera, I just let it hang down out the way for landscape and hold it out the way for portrait. The ability to use voice to take photos is a big plus here
I also have a ShockSock which protects the whole phone when I'm out and about.
I'm learning to use it... but I am still unsure.
Marine6680 said:
First off... The Good:
It seems to protect the screen really well, I like that I can put it in my pocket and not worry about the screen. Even though I carry just my phone in that pocket, I still manage to get scratches on a screen protector. I know the protectors scratch easier, but its still the only thing in there...
Its slim and does not add bulk to an already very large phone.
The lining helps keep fingerprints to a minimum.
It looks really good.
The Bad:
It only protects the screen... and only when in your pocket. It does not latch closed in any way, so if you drop the phone it can come open during the fall, or if you put it in a pocket or purse with other objects, they can work under the cover. Flat objects (say an MP3 player, would probably be fine)
The back and sides are not protected in any way, so some may not like that.
The Ugly:
Its designed all wrong... it is... Most of the worlds population is right handed, yet this cover is designed to best work for a left handed person. (and even the copies, and heck even the iPad "smart" cover do this)
As a right handed person, when I use my phone, I usually hold it in my left hand, and interact with the screen with my right hand... this is doubly true for this phone due to the stylus.
Even when using it one handed, the case flips open the wrong direction. It opens toward my thumb when holding it in my left hand. So instead of grabbing the phone, and using my thumb to just flip it open and let it hang there as I type out a quick text, IM, or other such actions, I must use both hands to open the cover.
I also keep my phone in my left front pocket, because it allows me to grab the phone with the hand that holds it the most, as I want my right hand free to do other things or to interact with the phone. If I kept the phone on my right side, this issue would admittingly be less a hassle, but I have other important things over there... My Space pen (as it is compact and slips in my key pocket easy) Keys... a pocket knife with a pocket clip... I even started carrying other things in my right pocket that normally went into the left, before phones became too large, and in-pocket slip cases with clips became extinct.
Think I am full of it or just complaining? If you have a flip cover, try this little experiment.
Put the phone down, cover closed, and pick it up with your left hand, and then open the cover.
Now put the phone down, and place it upside down (top of phone pointing down, so the screen is upside down when looking at it) so the cover opens to the other direction.
Pick the phone back up with your left hand and open the cover again.
See how much easier it is to manipulate?
Final thoughts:
I really want to like this thing... and I do in a lot of ways, but I will definitely need to spend a little time with it to see if I can overlook its major shortcoming.
Why Samsung didn't make two versions, one that opened each direction, I don't know...
They have some TPU style cases that include a flip cover, and the Note II is fairly symmetrical, so a little modification might allow one of those to be put on backwards, and then work as I want.
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This is probably the most intelligently written and concise review I have ever read, both on this forum or on an actual review by a professional.
I totally agree with the left hand using it as a right handed person. I just received mine about an hour ago and I love the look, but I think I will be selling it as I don't want to screw it up so I can say it is indeed new. What a shame really. And yes the camera becomes a big issue.
I do think I would tire of opening the cover constantly as well. To each their own.
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CitizenLee said:
I have one and can use it with right or left hand no problem, you just get use to it. It's not ideal for everything, but it's workable.
As for using the camera, I just let it hang down out the way for landscape and hold it out the way for portrait. The ability to use voice to take photos is a big plus here
I also have a ShockSock which protects the whole phone when I'm out and about.
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As if we didn't look silly enough already when holding it up to take pictures lol
I love the flip case. After just a few days I've gotten used to handling and have adjusted completely to it. It's just natural at this point.
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I was set on getting one. I only wanted a case that matched the color of the phone. When I went to the AT&T store to buy one, the rep said most of what you said. And how it got on his nerves to have to flip it around to ever use the phone. He had a S III (man I wish the Note was available in that garnet red). I played with a display that had one, and while it was soft and seemed like it would help wipe finger prints off like my TouchPad case does, it did worry me about flipping it open each time.
Just finally got the Samsung TPU case and my vinyl sample today. I am liking the case. Not bad for $18 with the Samsung coupon. Really tight, snug, and doesn't impede the S-Pen. Not as rubbery as I thought, I was worried it would be rubbery and sticky in the pocket.
I'm still getting used to the idea of a phone that isn't naked. After all these years of phones I haven't used a case before this phone.
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jdyowa said:
This is probably the most intelligently written and concise review I have ever read, both on this forum or on an actual review by a professional.
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I try... but I don't think I'm that good.
quarlow said:
I'm still getting used to the idea of a phone that isn't naked. After all these years of phones I haven't used a case before this phone.
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As phones have gotten larger and even heavier, clumsiness increases... having a slick feel and no texture increases this.
After using this thing a couple days... I really think a case with some shock protection is in order. So I ordered a matte clear TPU case, matte for a little extra grippiness... and the TPU is stiff but absorbs a lot of shock when dropped.
I use my phone with my left hand, pretty much 100%. As such, I knew the stock flip would be a problem for me. I looked high and large for a vertical flip, and the best I found was this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009VKSVEW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
I have never been a fan of cases, but this thing is so large it is inviting danger, so I figured I'd give one a chance. I also dislike the rubber cases. I like clean, smooth, and easy to use without having to rethink my entire phone operation. I thought the flip at the bottom might get in the way, but I find myself holding the entire thing between my middle and little fingers, and I actually have better reach one handed now. I still don't keep it on all the time, but I won't leave home without it now. It does add some bulk, but it was the only vertical flip that had a latch that didn't add even more bulk. My wife laughed when I made a phone calk and let the flap just hang under the phone since it hung to my chest...the front has a squishier padding over the stiff inner piece, the back is much firmer. The flap actually stays shut, but I can flick it off with one finger and be using my phone, even when walking two puppies.
I'll put up some pics of it on my phone, once I find some time.
I like the looks of the flip case but functionally it hinders my use of the phone. First time some one called me I about dropped it trying to hold it appropriately up to my ear for talking.
And especially the price...I returned mine within a day.
Im right handed and always hold with my right hand. I have had the flip case on the last 3 devices ive had.. love it! Its not for everyone, but I think its awesome.. and for the record, im willing to bet if you started a poll, right handed ppl hold their note (or ANY phone) right handed and do other things with their left (im holding a cup of coffee right now). If you can thumb type real well with your left hand then you are probably not right handed.. the reason I say this is because I believe Sammy does their homework with things like this.. a righty holding with left is probably in the minority.
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Ever since I purchased the M8, I've been wanting to get the Dot View cover because in pictures it looks so cool. I have also seen a lot of videos on YouTube and it definitely looked impressive, despite some of its downfalls which were pointed out in the videos but I thought I could live with them. When I went to the HTC store last night, I wanted to try it before buying it but that wasn't possible because the box is sealed and they didn't have any ones that were open, for instance, and for $60 USD it wasn't an easy decision to make since it's just a COVER! Anyways I decided to bite the bullet since I've always thought about buying it and just going ahead and doing it. As soon as I installed it on the device, I noticed the very first problem - the Glass screen protector I have installed causes it to not close properly.
The case has magnets that allow it to fully close on the screen, but the screen protector I have installed (which I am not going to remove for a cover) blocks it from doing that. The second thing I noticed is that the rubbery front makes it uncomfortable sliding it and out of your jeans' pockets whereas plastic or hard rubber makes it easier. The third is that it doesn't properly fold on the back since the HTC's back is not straight - I already knew about that problem from the videos but I didn't think it would be that annoying. Now you can barely type on the device unless you're an expert one-handed typer (which I definitely am not). It also makes it uncomfortable to play games and use the camera.
Last but not least, the Dot View itself is not as good as I expected it to be. It only shows the time and the weather in Celsius (22 degrees, for instance) but the text itself is far from being clear, I actually have to concentrate in order to make out the time and the weather. In the pictures the text looks very clear, but in person it is not at all. I have tried different themes, same thing. I'm starting to think I ended up with a couterfeit cover (but I highly doubt it since I bought it from the only authorized HTC reseller in Egypt and the case's box has the barcode on it and everything) but then again maybe the whole 8-bit, retro style text is the reason for that.
I came across an app called Dot View M8 Mods but unfortunately it is a paid-for version and my internet visa card expired and I'll have to wait for the renewal so I can buy it. All in all, I wouldn't recommend this case to anyone who actually uses the phone frequently throughout the day. I must say it makes it easier to answer/decline phone calls and of course it is very protective since it covers the front AND the back, but everything else could have been made much better. I must say that the M7's Flip Cover is a thousand times better than the M8's Dot View flip cover.
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Well, i used it, and using it since 3 months now.... I had to remove the thick glass protector, yes, but i bought a 0.3 mm thickness Rhino shield, which is bit expensive, but a very good screen protector. The cover just sticks to it very well.
About the clarity, the text is properly aligned, as shown in the pics and youtube vidoes. No issues at all. If you don't select any theme for dot view, it will show the weather icon as well.
Holding the phone was a bit difficult for a day or 2, but now i have learnt the technique.... Clip the cover with 2 fingers, you get to hold the mobile easily. The rubber finish on top is good actually, and can be cleaned easily with some solutions to give it a brand new look.
The only downside of this cover is its price.
actualy, i thought the price was really good:
it came free with my phone
as a novelty its fun and everyone thats seen it so far has been really impressed.
practically, when its on the phone it does provide a nice grippy feel and its nice to flip it open with one hand for a quick check.
it will provide protection from tiny scratches on the back but also its really annoying when its on the desktop and i want to actually do something.
when its folded back on the desk and in landscape mode it wobbles like its on springs and is impossible to type on.
i always end up just removing the case. luckily its really to remove and hopefully will survive being removed many times.
it is good that i can remove it without unplugging the usb
having used it for a week now i would not buy one.
its a good idea that needs a mark 2 still with some means of flipping closed also folding back solid as a desk stand.
my 2c.
How can you make the weather icon to show because mine is not showing up on my dot view case
scorror said:
How can you make the weather icon to show because mine is not showing up on my dot view case
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Settings > Personalize > Dot View > Theme > None.
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I got the dot view and also very not pleased.
First of all - it's not even a good protector. The sides are completely exposed and the aluminum scratches very easily, but obviously you know that if you're gonna opt for a slim case like this.
The real problem is that the flip cover doesn't really close all that well, it remains a bit 'lifted' (may have to do with my thick Zagg Glass screen protector, but it's still an annoyance) - which in turn means that to use the dot-view features I have to push down the flip cover and operate it with another finger. That by itself pretty much defeats the purpose of the feature.
The dot-case features are actually not bad (especially when coupled with the relevant Xposed mods), but the case itself is a disaster.
I would love to see a 3rd party case that actually offers good protection, a better flip cover - and the dot interface (shouldn't be that hard to achieve).
I agree with all your points. I have a thick glass screen protector installed and it makes it impossible to close it the flip itself. I found those Xposed Mods you're talking about but they seem to no longer work (or is it just me?). I am talking about this one specifically: http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.mohammadag.dotviewmodsforhtcmate
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mohammadag.dotviewmodsforhtcmateunlockkey&hl=en
Whenever I attempt to use it, it tells me that I have a modified HTC Dot View APK and I need to remove it and redownload the stock one from PlayStore, which I have done several times to no avail. I'd love to have those extra features if possible?
TarekElsakka said:
I agree with all your points. I have a thick glass screen protector installed and it makes it impossible to close it the flip itself. I found those Xposed Mods you're talking about but they seem to no longer work (or is it just me?). I am talking about this one specifically: http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.mohammadag.dotviewmodsforhtcmate
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mohammadag.dotviewmodsforhtcmateunlockkey&hl=en
Whenever I attempt to use it, it tells me that I have a modified HTC Dot View APK and I need to remove it and redownload the stock one from PlayStore, which I have done several times to no avail. I'd love to have those extra features if possible?
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Strange, it works fine for me.
Try this one.
That said, it's useless with the case being this.... flimsy.
I tried installing it but it says app not installed.
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I received this case by requesting it here
With that said, here's my initial thoughts on the case:
It arrived well packaged from Amazon, as most items I order are.
The case itself feels nice in the hand and does not really bulk the phone up like I expected it to do. Its stitched all the way around with no fraying and the edges are rolled over allowing for an appealing look. It has the magnet clasp that does cause a bit of havoc with the s-pen, but no too bad and thats to be expected with a magnet. I attached an image showing lines drawn and the magnets field to give you an idea of what to expect. Overall the exterior of the case is nice, feels good in hand and I like it.
Moving inside, it does have 4 slots for cards and an opening for bills on the left side, my cards slid in and out without issue and just enough is left exposed so you can grab them easily, the same stitching in used on the inside, however, around the card slots it appears to be rolled and glued, its neatly done so hopefully the edges will remain rolled over as the cards are slid in and out, time will tell.
The actual part you put your phone in is like a rubber material. Not hard at all but seems to to an adequate job of retaining the phone, it shouldn't scratch anything and all the ports are easily accessible. I do not like how it makes the volume and power buttons recessed as it makes them a bit difficult to use but not unusable at all, just a bit harder is all.
Drop protection? Honestly, I don't know. I have never used a case like this before as I tend to need rugged ones for my line of work but looking at it, I think it would do good. No obvious weak areas, with that said I'll call it adequate seeing as I am not willing to test it.
Lastly, my wireless charging works fine with this case installed, it also doesn't interfere with my tempered glass screen protector, no issues at all. I would say it's a good quality case that should protect decently and I appreciate the workmanship that went into making it. I have never had a leather case prior to this one so I don't have a whole lot to compare it with, I don't know how it will wear, if it will or really what to expect...time will answer that one.
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Just an update here, I don't know what's triggering it but when using this case I would say probably 40% of the time when I remove it from my pocket and open it, the camera will be running. It wasn't like that the first day or so but it's becoming an issue. I swap cases and problem goes away, I don't wear tight pants or anything so don't know. Anyways, might just be mine doing it for some reason but felt it a significant enough issue to post here.
Ducter said:
Just an update here, I don't know what's triggering it but when using this case I would say probably 40% of the time when I remove it from my pocket and open it, the camera will be running. It wasn't like that the first day or so but it's becoming an issue. I swap cases and problem goes away, I don't wear tight pants or anything so don't know. Anyways, might just be mine doing it for some reason but felt it a significant enough issue to post here.
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Do you have the "double tap on home to launch camera" enabled? This might be a culprit if it only happens on this case. Perhaps when you pull the device out of your pocket the home button is being pressed.
Also - I submitted a request via that thread about two weeks ago and still heard anything back. Honestly, I am kind of put off that they replied asking for a post and likes and then haven't had the decency to uphold their end of the deal.
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Do you have the "double tap on home to launch camera" enabled? This might be a culprit if it only happens on this case. Perhaps when you pull the device out of your pocket the home button is being pressed.
Also - I submitted a request via that thread about two weeks ago and still heard anything back. Honestly, I am kind of put off that they replied asking for a post and likes and then haven't had the decency to uphold their end of the deal.
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Good call, I'll check when I get home. Also, I got it by asking via message on Facebook. I replied to that thread then messaged them. If you haven't, give that a try. They seen like a nice enough company.
Hello XDA!
First of all, I'd like to wish a Happy New Year to everyone on this board! May 2016 be a fenomenal year to you guys!
I'm opening this conversation because I wanted to share my thoughts with you regarding this problem that owners of the Edge/Edge+ variant are facing: the lack of good glass screen protectors.
I've been looking for this device for a couple of days now (I still don't own it) to replace my current smartphone, and after doing a little bit of research and also for curiosity (to know if a curved glass would have a glass SP), I encountered this problem across the internet, and I don't know how long it will take to be solved.
What I'd like to share with you guys, is the current question: what if you don't use a Screen Protector? I mean, after looking around I encountered some problems regarding it:
Sensitivity is heavily impacted by these SP
The majority of these Glass Screen Protectors aren't cheap, with many ranging between $30 to $40
Man, they're ugly. I mean, to acomodate part of the adhesive or glue that will keep the SP on the device, the majority of the units have the top and bottom parts colored, which acomodate these adhesives. And here we have some problems: sometimes they don't match the device color or even fit the holes properly for the home button and others.
They don't stay on the device for long period of times. In my view, are easily disposable
And my solution to this is pretty simple: if you end up getting the screen badly scratched, or even cracked, you can just replace it with another front glass. And in my opinion, it is totally worth it, from a user experience and also economical view (I'll show the values below).
A device like the S6 Edge is not cheap, and what I think is that you end up losing a great part of the experience of the device by putting these kind of SP on. I tried the smartphone on a couple of stores yesterday and the touch and feel of the edge of the screen is just too nice to be impacted by a poorly-made SP.
Funny thing is that I never thought about that until today. I actually have a Moto G (2013), and initially I wanted to be so careful with it that I bought a couple of cases. But over the time I noticed that it completely destroys all the design and feeling of it in the hand. After a couple of months, I quitted using these cases and have never been happier.
With the screen I am still very careful, using a glass screen protector on it, but after thinking about it today I don't know if it is worth it. There are plenty of very good glass screen protectors out there, but you can't beat the sensitivity and feeling of the screen without any SP.
A lot of people (including me) tend to be very careful with it's devices, and it is completely normal, but I think sometimes we tend to give a lot of attention and concern to it and we end up not experiencing everything the gadget has to offer.
In the future we are going to have even more technologies that depend exclusively on the screen, such as the 3D Touch, perhaps more curved smartphones and even a fingerprint scanner built inside the screen, which will make sensitivity even more important, and so the need of really good screen protectors. Thinking about the possibility of replacing the screen gives us another choice if we don't want to use these SP's or pay for costly ones.
Well, about the possibility of replacing the Edge's front glass, I did a fast research on Ebay and found an item that the seller claim is original, for just $19.99:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Fr...hash=item35f722b753:m:m_MYRYEwbj9-1tKN3fQP5MA
And also another one, unbranded, for $15.70:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Glass...373893?hash=item3cfb40ecc5:g:XB0AAOSwrklVbrar
I'm sure that with a lot more research and time we can find many other items.
Of course, the procedure to replace it requires a lot of effort and is kinda risky, but we can find some tutorials on Youtube, like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_OPjGnaIy0
What do you guys think? I just wanted to post this as I saw many users concerned over the protection of their screens, and with it bring some sort of second option for you.
I'm really looking forward to your opinions around this and some sort of feedback from my thoughts would be really nice.
As a user of screen protectors (not necessarily tempered glass, I've always has plastic protectors), I feel that the trade offs from aesthetics (a little misaligned cutout here, etc.) to cost are nowhere near as much as the repair costs for replacing screen parts. It gives me peace of mind knowing that I have at least /some/ protection on the screen. I'm very careful with my devices but there are just times where a protector would come in handy for things that are beyond my control (like getting your phone knocked off your hand by some random passerby, kids running, those kinds of things.) I think I'd also rather have the trade offs than endure the struggle of trying to replace the screen by myself. Plus, if you're planning on reselling the phone in the future, phones with the original parts tend to be valued higher.
Now while replacement screens are readily available, as with the case of some third-party supplies, quality problems such as color casts, etc. are problems for meticulous users. From personal experience, I've had phones break and had fixed elsewhere aside from the manufacturer's service center only to regret it by getting darker screens, lesser color vibrance, etc. compared to the original. Often times, when the glass breaks, it takes the screen and other parts down with it; thus costing you well more than just the 15 USD for the glass replacement, so I guess that's also another way to look at it.
I've had various mobiles for many many years (I'm 64) and have always used a case and a protector for the screen, and never had a damaged phone. I order all three at the same time and don't use the phone until everything has been delivered.
The edge presented a problem that we're all familiar with so I went for this one despite the £18+ cost. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B014CE6CL0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
Everything was great, easy to apply, no bubbles and looked great..... then I fitted the Otterbox case! Disaster, cracked protector and £18+ down the drain.
Currently, and for the first time ever, I'm using the phone with no screen cover. I feel naked, but don't feel like risking another glass one.
Any answers welcome?
Zagg just confirmed a tempered glass by February; the problem is that it may have to be installed at the kiosk.
I just use cheap TPU screen protectors from ebay, they require soapy water to be mounted so you get them in the exact place, then you squeegee the water out and let the edges to dry up so you can stick them down, they settle fully after a few hours and look great. they can be a nightmare to put on and I would say they have around slightly less clarity than glass but they cover the whole screen and do they're job just fine.
TPU has very good shock absorbing properties so I think they will help resist screen cracks like tempered glass.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=221893323852&alt=web
no matter how careful you are , the phone will still hit the ground somehow , always happen when you just woke up , glue to the screen and some dude bang onto you , off the phone flys , fyi most shops dont replace the glass alone , its comes as a set (much easier and fuss free ) , also direct impact drops can crack the lcd internally without glass cracking .
I have read many mixed reviews of this glass screen protector here, on other forums, and on Amazon.
Amazon's the best, IMO, because you're reading product reviews from real everyday normal folks from all different walks, so the compilation of reviews includes the whole range of skill level.
Inarguably, the Whitestone Dome Glass protector is probably THE MOST difficult to install, save the fact that the kit includes an allignment jig that helps installation inmeasurably. I recently did this (this evening) and can't imagine attempting this without such a jig, though I understand similar UV activated glue is available to use with separately sold glass protectors.
So I'll start with some background info to set the scene for accuracy...
I'm a landscaper by day, but a jeweler part time. That means I chunk heavy crap around all day long like a farmer, but on the weekends I show off my dexterity like a watchmaker.
That's important, because this installation requires steady, confident hands, much forethought, patience, and it ain't cheap!
Sooooo...
Let me say that I was really nervous. I already accepted the idea that I might have to decide whether to purchase another one or go a different route and just choke on losing 45 dollars.
I watched 8 YouTube videos on installation, including one completely failed installation, and a demonstration on the removal of one.
The package arrived today but was outside the house in the cold. Of course I wanted to pop it on immediately, but figured that it should warm up to temperature first.
During that time I prepped my table. I used a marble to see if it was level. During preparation, i also prepared myself for the possibility of failure. LOL!
I layed out all of the items like I was about to perform surgery.
CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN!
Use those dust removal stickers! Even after you let the glue fall and remove the "bridge", check again for dust.
Don't flail about to much. That simply stirs up dust.
"Relax", is the best advice I can give. Peeling the backing off the glass from underneath it so dust that's in the air doesn't land on the inside surface sounds like a logical idea, and you should, but static from peeling it can become a pain.
If you're calm enough, you can do this just like the videos.
I wiped the edges after the first and second curing with the UV light. I did end up with excess flow out one side, and on the other side during the second wipe down, I had an ever so tiny bubble (if you'd even call it that) on the edge. The bubble was from wiping away the partially curred glue, which pulled a tiny, TINY bit out. (Literally one third the size of the exposed part of the SPen tip.)
I remedied this OCD-killer by using a toothpick dabbed in what remained at the top of the glue tube and simply touched it to the edge, which sucked it right in to fill the tiny void.
I used the UV light several times with the idea that it simply couldn't hurt to do it as often as I could.
My screen literally looks like a perfect install. Absolutely fantastic, as Sakitech would say!
I would say the skill level required for this is about average, but you really have only one chance to get it right, and there are a few steps that need to be followed perfectly or else they can trip you up.
Watch those videos. Many show people doing an imperfect installation with decent or good results, but after watching several you'll see just how to avoid mishaps.
On a different note, I did notice something very strange while utilizing the UV light; there is a weird shape in the center of the screen that shows up under the light. I have no idea what it is, but it shows as a slightly different color in the center third of the screen, nearly full length with rounded corners and perfectly symmetrical. I'm assuming it's an adhesive beneath the screen for the interactive SPen screen? I dunno. Kinda neat.
Anyway, after reading reviews stating problems with lifting of the edges of the Whitestone Dome, I figured I would contribute here by checking in and giving updates as to the longevity of this very beautiful, but slightly expensive and fiddly (to say the least) installing screen protector.
Feel free to ask any questions.
O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
AddictedToGlass said:
O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
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Same here with mine. Very satisfied. Nearly 3 months now and it's been rock solid for me.
Same here, great bit of kit.
Agreed - I love my Whitestone. It picked up a scratch, and I used the new warranty facility to replace it. It's not exactly cheap (around £20) to get the replacement, but it's better than having to buy one at full price.
This one ended up being a little more fiddly to install, but that was my fault - I allowed the LOCA to flow too far towards the bottom of the device before dropping the glass. I had tiny cluster of bubbles near the power switch which I worked out with some patience, and I also ended up sticking the jig together because I cured it for too long before removing the phone. However, the overall result is better than my original install, and I haven't had the touch up the edges of this one at all.
As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
jooniloh said:
As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Maybe I've just been getting bad batches? idk.
I've had no problems with mine. Looks and works great! My wife's has started to come up on a corner. It's because she was mishandling it and not realizing what she was doing. All the warnings that we are aware of she is basically unaware of because... I don't know. It's still working for her and doesn't bother her. I don't plan on using another brand when I have to replace hers.
After 3 months the glue went bad on mine and started peeling on a top corner, then it went down both sides over night. Frankly at £40, it needs to last a lot longer for that money.
So;
It's mid August, 6½ months after the installation and it still looks great.
To be fair I have to mention that I do have two phones I use on a daily basis, but the Note is used for many more hours a week as a tablet as compared to my naked S8+, which I really only use to make and take calls.
In other words, the Note sees a lot of touch screen activity.
The Whitestone is holding up much better than I expected, given all the problems I've read about it. I do have a very subtle problem spot on the right side edge right in the middle where it has started to bubble. Though it's really only visible at certain angles, and quite small, my OCD magnifies this visual defect a great deal for me! When I hand over my phone to someone (always reluctantly...LOL) to view a picture or an app, I still get compliments on the screen protector, and no one has ever pointed it out to me. (It is very small.)
IT HAS DONE IT'S JOB...
-At least once, because there's a small scratch in the surface of the glass. Again, another thing hardly noticable, but if it were in the screen itself of my Note, I would be very upset. (Give me 6 more months to get to the point where it's perfectly acceptable for this handheld device to show signs of use.)
A CORNER DID START TO LIFT...
Last month, the upper right hand corner developed a very small bubble. I knew right away from what I've read that this might be the start of the end of this screen's life. But I continually massaged the screen down many times, and it actually worked and resealed.
My take on this is that firstly, it's been ridiculously hot in my region. That might've helped with resealing. But secondly and most importantly, I never allow dust to get near my phone.
Dust is the enemy. A single microfiber particle between the screen and glass cover might've made resealing impossible. People pop their phones in their pocket all the time, and because the phones are dust proof now, it's even easier to take for granted what they are exposed to. As soft and protective as pockets are, they expose phones to a lot of dust. (Look at the lint trap in a clothes dryer!)
IN CONCLUSION...
I'll keep monitoring this thread to answer any questions, but I'll probably only post an update of when the Whitestone finally needs to be replaced. At that point I'll probably throw some photos up before I remove the old one.
As far as I'm concerned it has already exceeded my expectations of longevity, and I'll gladly be getting a replacement when the time comes. But I will continue to try to get the most life out of this one despite the small lift on the edge.
BTW...
The "problem" side of my screen is where it had less of the LOCA bleeding out of the edge during installation. Even though the puddle of adhesive was dead center when I dropped the glass on, when I wiped the excess from the edges, the right side had less run-off. Right now I'm wondering if I wiped the excess off of the edges too soon. During the next installation, I'll be sure to give more time for the glue to stay where it needs to.
COMPARED TO NO SCREEN PROTECTOR...
Well, I never, ever, ever have used any of my smart phones without a screen protector. But I finally grew weary of the cheap crappy edge-adhesive glass protector I had on my S8+, and threw it out! The screen would often not register touches, etc, and was an under-screen dust catcher. I havn't bought a Whitestone for it yet because I spend so little time using it that I keep forgetting. So for about 4 months, I've been using my S8+ with no protection save a case that does have a screen flap (like a wallet).
I have a small rub mark on the screen, hardly noticable, but it's there.
If and when I purchase a Whitestone for that phone, I'll post here as to whether or not the LOCA actually hides that mark, as I've read in other threads that it can hide existing scratches presumably because it fills them in (makes sense).
A FINAL PLUG FOR THE NOTE 8...
I doubt the NOTE 10/X will wow me enough to drop my 8 like a wet sock and bolt to the store. I do figure that it'll be feature-packed since the advances of the 9 weren't anything crazy special. But I'm far from tired of this phone and given what I paid for it, I expect I'll have it long enough to have to perform the inevitable battery replacement surgery before I finally upgrade.
I believe the Whitestone protection will help me stay that course. :good: