Sooo, when do you guys think there will be root for locked bootloaders? Without the need to unlock bootloader or downgrading, just simple rooting. Is anyone working on it at all?
parfa10 said:
Sooo, when do you guys think there will be root for locked bootloaders? Without the need to unlock bootloader or downgrading, just simple rooting. Is anyone working on it at all?
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Just be patient - there are many threads like this - so keep it cool - wait it out - and be grateful for that what you already have
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Hey everybody,
I am on official JB and want to root. Will there be a method at some point to root it without unlocking the bootloader? What do the experts think - I know you cant look into the future, but what are your experiences from other phones, is it very likely that there will be sth. or not?
The other method would be to unlock the bootloader. So do you expect that the bootloader logo can be exchanged again at some point?
Thanks
Thorsten
Hey guys/gals
i have a quick question.
what exactly is the difference (featurewise) when it comes to rooting with an unlocked bootloader and rooting with a locked one?
i'm pretty new to android (iOS user until last saturday), did some research today, but didn't really find much usefull information.
main reason i want to root (at least for now. i'm sure i would find more after spending more time with my xperia), is because i want to format my 64gb SD to exfat and move apps over to it.
thanks guys
edit: and no, i'm currently not thinking about getting a different theme/loader on it (this is one of the things you can only do with an unlocked one, right?)
edit2: and yes, my bootloader can be unlocked
dottore. said:
Hey guys/gals
i have a quick question.
what exactly is the difference (featurewise) when it comes to rooting with an unlocked bootloader and rooting with a locked one?
i'm pretty new to android (iOS user until last saturday), did some research today, but didn't really find much usefull information.
main reason i want to root (at least for now. i'm sure i would find more after spending more time with my xperia), is because i want to format my 64gb SD to exfat and move apps over to it.
thanks guys
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Ok unlocked bootloaders = you lose DRM keys forever and Bravia Engine doesn't work. Relocking won't get them back. You can also overclock/underclock CPU with unlocked bootloader. You can also flash custom ROMs/kernels with unlocked bootloader.
Now with locked bootloader you can still have root but you don't lose your DRM keys. You can't flash custom ROMs/kernels or do any overclocking/underclocking.
That's all I can think of.
yeah, i read about that whole DRM thing. i don't care so much about the Bravia Engine and DRM, but i wouldn't mind it staying (first time i said that about DRM), so thats one of the main reason i didn't just went on with unlocking.
is flashing a custom kernel something more or less common when using a rooted android? could i get the things mentioned done without doing it? (i think i read moving apps only needs root, but then again: the xperia z seems to be a bit special when it comes to extSD)
thanks for the fast reply
shadowboy23 said:
Ok unlocked bootloaders = you lose DRM keys forever and Bravia Engine doesn't work. Relocking won't get them back. You can also overclock/underclock CPU with unlocked bootloader. You can also flash custom ROMs/kernels with unlocked bootloader.
Now with locked bootloader you can still have root but you don't lose your DRM keys. You can't flash custom ROMs/kernels or do any overclocking/underclocking.
That's all I can think of.
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is flashing a custom kernel something more or less common when using a rooted android? could i get the things mentioned done without doing it?
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Well it's up to you. You can either flash custom ROMs/kernels if you want but you will need to unlock the bootloader to do that. Locked bootloader you can only have root and that's it sad to say. But you don't have to flash a custom ROM or kernel if you have root. because you can't anyway with a locked bootloader. Having root just means you can use apps that need root access.
shadowboy23 said:
Well it's up to you. You can either flash custom ROMs/kernels if you want but you will need to unlock the bootloader to do that. Locked bootloader you can only have root and that's it sad to say.
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ok, thanks. i think i'll stay with the locked one for now...let's see for how long
Hi,
Is there a way to have root access without unlocking the bootloader, or rephrased is there a way to get root without HTC knowing what i did?
jypdTonga said:
Hi,
Is there a way to have root access without unlocking the bootloader, or rephrased is there a way to get root without HTC knowing what i did?
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No, known methods of rooting without unlocking don't work on the one. I tried motochopper and srsroot.
jypdTonga said:
Hi,
Is there a way to have root access without unlocking the bootloader, or rephrased is there a way to get root without HTC knowing what i did?
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Never
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What a pity since you loose all your warranty when unlock..
Hi, I bought a moto x recently and I really don't know what is the best option to mod my phone. I have android 4.4.2 and standard moto x from Claro, and I'd like to mainly root. I'm not really interested on unlock BL, but aparently in 4.4.2 it is needed to unlock BL. I have read some guides here but I don't get it. What I shall do ? Thanks guys.
Without an unlocked bootloader, this is your only root option on 4.4.2...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
And its only root. Write protection is still enabled, meaning anything you do is undone when you reboot or power off and on.
So it has a lot of limits. I don't think you can write to the system either.
Not ideal.
Yes, I was wondering on downgrading my phone, what about that ?
Nosoyale said:
Yes, I was wondering on downgrading my phone, what about that ?
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You will BRICK it if you try. Its well documented here. You can not downgrade safely - even with an unlocked bootloader.
Nosoyale said:
Yes, I was wondering on downgrading my phone, what about that ?
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Just.....no.
Hi All
So firstly I should say I only have myself to blame. I'm quite a techy guy so I just assumed i'd be able to root my phone without any issues and pick it up as I go. What i've quickly found out is i'm in way over my head and i'm an absolute noob!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated from those guys out there that actually know what they are doing. I have read many forums but i'm still lost.
My story is as follows:
- I have a Z1 that was locked on stock firmware 4.4
- I read that it would be a good idea to unlock the bootloader so i did this
- I wanted to root my phone but from what I read I could see I would have to downgrade the firmware to 4.2. So this is what i did.
- By doing this I lost my IMEI number, got very worried i'd ruined my phone. I tried many things to restore it, there were a variety of different solutions online, none of them worked. I eventually flashed a 4.3 firmware i found on this forum which restored my IMEI.
- I then read through a few posts of people who had similar issues and advice was given to downgrade again (if i wanted to root) but this time exclude the baseband etc. I did this, but lost my IMEI again! the advice didn't work
- So I then went and updgraded again! to 4.3 to restore my IMEI and network access
- There doesn't seem to be a way to root on 4.3 so my phone isn't rooted, that's ok. But when i try to use my banking apps they don't work! they say my phone is rooted even though it isn't! I have checked with root checker
- Like an idiot, i didn't back up the phone when i first started doing all of this, i didn't really know what i was doing so I am now in a situation where i have the worst of both worlds. They are, i can either 1. downgrade the firmware to 4.2, root my phone but not have a valid IMEI and network access or 2. stay on 4.3, have a valid IMEI and not be rooted but certain apps think i'm rooted so i can't use them.
So all in all i've just messed things up and i'm in way over my head. I would really appreciate some advice
Thanks
Yes you are right.
Also, there is no issue with losing IMEI when downgrading, it happens to everyone, but it comes back when you upgrade.
Also, if you unlock the bootloader there is no need to downgrade, that is a locked bootloader method of rooting
You should root before unlocking the bootloader in order to backup the TA partition, but you are too late now...
Solution
1) Use flashtool to relock the bootloader
2) Use pccompanion to update to latest firmware
3) Unlock the bootloader again with flashtool
4) Flash a custom kernel for stock based ROMs
5) Install SuperSU from the play store.
DONE!
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gregbradley said:
Yes you are right.
Also, there is no issue with losing IMEI when downgrading, it happens to everyone, but it comes back when you upgrade.
Also, if you unlock the bootloader there is no need to downgrade, that is a locked bootloader method of rooting
You should root before unlocking the bootloader in order to backup the TA partition, but you are too late now...
Solution
1) Use flashtool to relock the bootloader
2) Use pccompanion to update to latest firmware
3) Unlock the bootloader again with flashtool
4) Flash a custom kernel for stock based ROMs
5) Install SuperSU from the play store.
DONE!
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Hi Greg
Thank you very much for your quick response. I will try and follow your advice to the letter tonight/tomorrow and let you know how it goes.
Thanks again
retro100386 said:
Hi Greg
Thank you very much for your quick response. I will try and follow your advice to the letter tonight/tomorrow and let you know how it goes.
Thanks again
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..and if you want to see the Video which help you to understand better just check the @gregbradley Signature or mine.
eclyptos said:
..and if you want to see the Video which help you to understand better just check the @gregbradley Signature or mine.
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The video by shem is for locked bootloaders, he needs an unlocked bootloader method
gregbradley said:
The video by shem is for locked bootloaders, he needs an unlocked bootloader method
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So we have to ask @shem2409 to do another vid for Unlocked Bootloaders...
eclyptos said:
So we have to ask @shem2409 to do another vid for Unlocked Bootloaders...
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I don't think so, the unlocked bootloader method is very generic and there are hundreds (if not thousands) of guides and probably as many videos.
gregbradley said:
I don't think so, the unlocked bootloader method is very generic and there are hundreds (if not thousands) of guides and probably as many videos.
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I know but as you see the users still do mistake anyway, even if there is a lot of vids with a clear explanation.
conflicting messages?
gregbradley said:
Yes you are right.
Also, there is no issue with losing IMEI when downgrading, it happens to everyone, but it comes back when you upgrade.
Also, if you unlock the bootloader there is no need to downgrade, that is a locked bootloader method of rooting
You should root before unlocking the bootloader in order to backup the TA partition, but you are too late now...
Solution
1) Use flashtool to relock the bootloader
2) Use pccompanion to update to latest firmware
3) Unlock the bootloader again with flashtool
4) Flash a custom kernel for stock based ROMs
5) Install SuperSU from the play store.
DONE!
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Hi Greg, can you give me a bit more advice please.
i'm just looking at the tutorial to relock by bootloader. It says "before u relock bootloader u have to be on pure stock kernel (flash only the kernel.sin using flashtool), else the device WILL NOT BOOT after relock"
The problem is i'm already flashed on to an FTF image that was on this site. From so by doing this am i going to brick my phone? i'm confused and i don't want to make things work so your advice would be apprecaited
thanks
retro100386 said:
Hi Greg, can you give me a bit more advice please.
i'm just looking at the tutorial to relock by bootloader. It says "before u relock bootloader u have to be on pure stock kernel (flash only the kernel.sin using flashtool), else the device WILL NOT BOOT after relock"
The problem is i'm already flashed on to an FTF image that was on this site. From so by doing this am i going to brick my phone? i'm confused and i don't want to make things work so your advice would be apprecaited
thanks
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Hi Greg
it's fine, i am just being stupid again, i just relocked without a problem, thanks again
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2014/0...oid-kitkat-devices-in-one-tap-no-pc-required/
check this out