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Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
Go back to iPhone.
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That's not helping me
Kinoal said:
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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Just wait a few days for the 4.2.2 update and stop crying :silly:
maybe your device is defect?
i'm using the z for nearly 3 weeks now, haven't had a single problem.
phone is fast, ui is smooth and fluid, no lags. and i have plenty of widgets. temperature isn't hot.
compared it to a friends iphone 5 - no lags, not less fluid or smooth.
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
Aerys said:
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
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Hurry up
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trungduc5151 said:
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
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Don't want to loose my warranty
xperia z
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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so far everything fine with my xperia z. no lags. stand by time is awesome... it can take 2 days witout 3g but with wifi on and moderate use. i installed a lot of games like real racing so far all is fine also with the temperature. im using the non lte version black xperia. the only problem that i have is that some apps is not compatible like the keek social video app and i can not register with box cloud storage.. idont know why. all xperience is great
reptile64 said:
Just wait a few days for the 4.2.2 update and stop crying :silly:
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You sure it will be out in a few more days??
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trungduc5151 said:
unlock bootloader, root, remove junk system file, use cook rom, custom kernel i think you will feel better
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samuelchua said:
You sure it will be out in a few more days??
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The 4.2.2 is supposed to boost the performance of Android?
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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disable that irritation animation effect from the developer menu....everything is great about the phone...apart frm im having issues with the touch lcd...stimes i have to touch the app like 5 times in quick seccession only thn it registers, odly enough when i message ...keyboard is all fine..battry is nt great either,with 3g on , lasts only half a day
Aerys said:
Wait for a stable CM10.1 build or 4.2.2
I also dont know what to do with the XZ. I have it for 3 days now, but i am a little dissapointed about the screen and the connectors are very annoying. Theres also a lot of dust. I think i will switch to Galaxy s 4 or htc one!
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Wait... What? dust? are you sure it's XZ? lol
I had quite a bit of lag on mine also. I tried numerous Launchers until I found one that ran without hitch. Try Apex Launcher. Takes a while to set up and get right, but now mine is running absolutely smooth as silk. Ill try the stock launcher again once the new Android update hits. But agreed, out the box, the phone isnt smooth or quick to use at all.
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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i cannot see any of these problem in my phone
iPhone is for stupid people (girls/boys who don care of developing)
it s android if u have problem with this ROM u can root and change it
change kernel
change firmware
iPhone 5 is dual-core, 1.2 GHz, 1gm ram, 4inch (not hd!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xperia Z is QUADcore, 1.5 GHz, 2GB RAM, 5inch, FULL HD
so it normal for temperature to increase But phone will work properly in high temp. :good:
(iphone users cannot imagine this )
Kinoal said:
Hi All
I've bought the Sony Xperia Z since now 2 days and I'm a little disapointed..
Ok the phone is beautiful, the screen too but there is really bad bad point for people who come from an Iphone 5. Everybody said that this phone is fluid and better than a Galaxy Tab but after 2 days of use , it seem that it's really not the case!!. Even with a good processor quad core , the speed is not even better than the galaxy Tab 2. Even my girlfriend who are on an Iphone 4S said that the Sony XZ is not fluid as the iphone and she knows nothing about phones.
When I'm unlocking my phone, I always have a lag between moving between desktop. After 1 days I've installed Nova Launcher, It was a little more fluid but not the best ! Sorry but when I see the caracteristics of the phone , it's a monster but with Android , it's slow ! SLOW SLOW!!
I'm the only one who see this??? Even with a monster phone Android don't work well! I'm even hesitate the add more than 2 widgets....
The Second point is the webbrowsing... It's horrible, I've try Firefox, Chrome and dolphin and really , it's not fluid at all, when you scrolling in web pages it's slow to show pages , pictures etc...
The Third point is the temperature... it grow to 38° when I use it for more than 20 mins....
So the Xperia Is a good phone but theses point disapoint me a lot.. I was thinking that with a monster last generation phone, it's going to be fluid and I see that's not the case..
Does somebody can help me maybe??
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Use a good launcher, and disable/uninstall some of the apps that you don't use. This phone is quick, much smoother compared to any iPhone i've used.
pkw168 said:
Use a good launcher, and disable/uninstall some of the apps that you don't use. This phone is quick, much smoother compared to any iPhone i've used.
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+10, and much more customisable
The phone can lag a little in settings menu and with Sony launcher but aside from that it settles down once you've had it a while. I can't explain why.
I use dolphin browser as the stock browser and chrome are a little laggy. Dolphins not perfect but right now it's faster and has much less lag.
Non I'm root but I need to unlock bootloader to be able to install Custom Rom And I don't want to loose my warranty... XZ seems to have so much problems don't want to loose my money
hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
moly82 said:
hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
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The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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ectoplasma22 said:
The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
moly82 said:
thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
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Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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ectoplasma22 said:
Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
moly82 said:
thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
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Haha this phone is really good but I do not want to influence you too much
For me, the panorama works perfectly, there are sometimes default on the picture but the most of the time the panorama do his work as it should
We also have a port of the Nexus 4's camera so Photosphere is available on this device.
The videos are good, it's true that the stabilization is not perfect but the videos are good enough for my taste.
Just to remind you that I'm absolutely not a professional so i can't really judge the camera since I never use a real camera.
Anyway for a normal use and with cm10.1 the camera should be good enough even if it's not the best part of the O4X
Hope that helped you
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One more word on the camera: My wife has a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2, which makes not that excellent pictures (quite a little blurry even under optimal conditions). When she took a look at the pics my O4X made, I had trouble getting it back Sure you cannot compare them with a DSLR -- but for the "Amateur", they are pretty good.
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
moly82 said:
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
moly82 said:
thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
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no problem, glad i could help. i hope you're as happy with your future phone as i am with mine :highfive:
guys, I read many threads in this subforum about this phone to see in advance what I will need to do when I get it, and it is not clear to me one thing: is it true that some O4X models can not be unlocked? So if I buy it I should check if I get a "good" one or not? :silly:
(I saw some posts about EUR-xxx etc)
tx!
This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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ectoplasma22 said:
This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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thanks mate you are great! I saw many threads with unlocking procedures but did not see that one sorry!
I was convinced by many threads on this forum to buy this phone, people says, battery life is OK, phone is smooth, camera is OK, then I bought this phone and that was the biggest mistake I did. To clarify:
1. Camera: pictures are not bad but when you want to record a video in a noisy place distortion is all the time, my previous Moto RAZR xt910 recorded video 10x better.
2. Battery life: I tried every combination ROM/Kernel and when I was unplugged my phone at 6:00Am after 12 hours battery was dead. This phone barely lasts 2 hours screen on time. So battery life is worst then every smartphone I had (check signature).
3. Sat Nav. I coudn't use this phone as a SatNav in a car because when you driving and screen is ON car charger can't charge this phone because it's discharging too fast. Result? After few hours the phone is dead unless you turn the screen off and wait for car charger charge the battery.
4. Dust under screen: I was use this phone in usual way, hold in my front jeans pocket, after 2 - 3 monts a big piece of dust poped out in a centre of screen, you can see it on a second picture on my ebay auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330939115679?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649
Now I rather buy Xperia T then this piece of crap.
That's my opinion, I try to save you cause I regret nobody did it for me.
(sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue)
wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
moly82 said:
wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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thanks a lot my friend, exact, helpful and clear as always
yes that gps bug would be a big bug for me actually, thanks for letting me know! (i often use gps navigation while phone is connected to the car stereo through headphones to listen to some music so gps malfunctioning would be really a big problem for me!)
strange i did read a lot around about this phone and have never reed anything about that.. thanks again!
well my other choice would be the xperia T but that suffers the reboot bug in cm10.1 and that also is a big bug for me.. really don't know what to do now..
bye and thanks all and good night maybe sleep will take some advice's..
Try using CM Stable with iodak v6 kernel. In my case it gave better battery life and much better performance than any other combination.
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hi guys, sorry for posting again here but i would prefer not to open a new thread.. but if mods want me to do so I will do that!
I have one "final" question about this phone.. :laugh: will all the p880's be bootloader unlockable without exceptions? or if I buy it I should worry about that at the purchase and choose a particular model etc?
(I am asking this because for example for the Xperia T they say that if I get a no-brand one it can be easily unloacked, while if I get a branded one I can't unlock the bootloader at all..! is the same for the LG?)
thanks in advance bye!
Did any of the users find the phone lag at any point of time? Please help me out with this. I have heard that the phone to lags, is it true? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
ivanrvf said:
Did any of the users find the phone lag at any point of time? Please help me out with this. I have heard that the phone to lags, is it true? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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oh god no, mine is fast as lightening, I am still amazed (after having it for more than one month) at how fast it is. Switching between apps is instant, browsing the gallery the same.
tudork said:
oh god no, mine is fast as lightening, I am still amazed (after having it for more than one month) at how fast it is. Switching between apps is instant, browsing the gallery the same.
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I was reluctant to believe that it was laggy. Since it uses the same chipset as the nexus 4 or a better version. How is the heavy games performing? I know there plenty of videos regarding gaming reviews. But I just want a views from a user of xperia zr. Since its a little on the costly side for me and want to make sure it's worth it.
not so laggy . my zr is smooth when running apps . a little bit laggy when play heavy games ,but not so obvious . this is a great phone with a little cost :fingers-crossed:
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not so laggy . my zr is smooth when running apps . a little bit laggy when play heavy games ,but not so obvious . this is a great phone with a little cost :fingers-crossed:
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You mean the Game lags are not much noticeable? I would be installing Asphalt 7, if I get this phone. How would xperia zr stand up to nexus 4 in performance section?
Mine is laggy, not all the time but if you keep screen on for about 10 minutes and launching apps after apps, it gets really laggy especially on Chrome. I even have display issues where black screen are displayed on certain apps for awhile before showing up. Not sure if it's because I have too many sync data and background apps going on but I don't understand how anyone can use a smartphone these days without a minimum of such things going on
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Mine is laggy, not all the time but if you keep screen on for about 10 minutes and launching apps after apps, it gets really laggy especially on Chrome. I even have display issues where black screen are displayed on certain apps for awhile before showing up. Not sure if it's because I have too many sync data and background apps going on but I don't understand how anyone can use a smartphone these days without a minimum of such things going on
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That sounds quite bad, mine definitely does not do that. However, I have to say Chrome is laggy on any kind of phone, I would never use it, especially because of that. I use Dolphin these days.
It will drop frames in heavy gaming because of overheat. it works well in gaming as long as you can keep it cool.
there is not lag in daily uses.
even Asphalt 8 can run smoothly on XZR
Well the phone is kinda brand new so.. in this price range its expected to be smooth and fast no doubt about it. The 2 gigs and 1.5 quad boy do the job.Have the phone from more than a month and I can tell you if u have the money go for it. the heating is abit ****ty when you play heavy games more than 30 min but every smatphone heats so..its not a big deal
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You mean the Game lags are not much noticeable? I would be installing Asphalt 7, if I get this phone. How would xperia zr stand up to nexus 4 in performance section?
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i think zr be able to play asphalt 7 with no lag .i already play asphalt 8 in my device ,no lag but overheat . dont play too long i think .
I have this Lags
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I have this Lags
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Other than in the lockscreen, any lag in other area too?
I have been using my zr for about two months. Lag is virtually non existent. I am happy with the performance. Dead trigger plays very well. Only problems are heating during heavy gameplay like deadtrigger or using chrome and those flaps covering headphone jack and usb port. :thumbup:
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That sounds quite bad, mine definitely does not do that. However, I have to say Chrome is laggy on any kind of phone, I would never use it, especially because of that. I use Dolphin these days.
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I think it's just some games that just resource hogging and seems to cause those delay and black screens.
Sony roms are the most laggy roms ever (Specially if you have many background app running!) So expect some lag when connecting to internet
Not laggy. try factory reset.
Hi
I'm planning to buy out Xperia ZR. Couple of questions are confusing me:
1. Will I be able to root/unlock the bootloader?
2. Will I be able to use custom roms like CyanogenMod, MIUI, XDA-Developer's superior roms etc?
3. As I'm learning android development, will this phone be good if I look at that purpose also?
4. I heard there are some issue with call volume as its lower than others? Is it true?
5. Heating up issue? Is there?
Why I choose this phone over nexus 4 or xperia z?
Same hardware as Nexus 4 but having good camra+water proof body+Better battery life+NFC etc. in the same price.
I know I'll miss the s/w updates..Will I be able to use stock android latest updates on this in case I want to?
Comparing to Xperia Z couple of things are more as in the price of 5K..
Why I came to ask here, Coz if I see under Xperia Z or Nexus 4 there are lots of threads regarding android development custom roms, tweaks...but under ZR, I see a few...
Things are pretty much confusing me...
Please guide me even if I miss anything help me to get a better phone ..
Thanks Alot
I think that if you want to learn about android development, any device will be a good device.
Every device works for learning the basics, and any device have your own issues, so you will have to deal with some issues every now and then...
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Hi
I'm planning to buy out Xperia ZR. Couple of questions are confusing me:
1. Will I be able to root/unlock the bootloader?
2. Will I be able to use custom roms like CyanogenMod, MIUI, XDA-Developer's superior roms etc?
3. As I'm learning android development, will this phone be good if I look at that purpose also?
4. I heard there are some issue with call volume as its lower than others? Is it true?
5. Heating up issue? Is there?
Why I choose this phone over nexus 4 or xperia z?
Same hardware as Nexus 4 but having good camra+water proof body+Better battery life+NFC etc. in the same price.
I know I'll miss the s/w updates..Will I be able to use stock android latest updates on this in case I want to?
Comparing to Xperia Z couple of things are more as in the price of 5K..
Why I came to ask here, Coz if I see under Xperia Z or Nexus 4 there are lots of threads regarding android development custom roms, tweaks...but under ZR, I see a few...
Things are pretty much confusing me...
Please guide me even if I miss anything help me to get a better phone ..
Thanks Alot
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes if you're willing to risk your device
4. Not really. The call volume is loud enough for average person, but not the best in the market of course.
5. It's a waterproof dustproof phone with IP58 rating. Expect some heating issue but it won't be serious from my experience. You can always cool it down with water.
CressKH said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes if you're willing to risk your device
4. Not really. The call volume is loud enough for average person, but not the best in the market of course.
5. It's a waterproof dustproof phone with IP58 rating. Expect some heating issue but it won't be serious from my experience. You can always cool it down with water.
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@CressKH
Thanks alot...
I have a doubt I dont see much developer theard for ZR. I can't see more of Official ROMs from cyan,akop,miui..
please clear me there
Thanks
S_Singh said:
Hi
I'm planning to buy out Xperia ZR. Couple of questions are confusing me:
1. Will I be able to root/unlock the bootloader?
2. Will I be able to use custom roms like CyanogenMod, MIUI, XDA-Developer's superior roms etc?
3. As I'm learning android development, will this phone be good if I look at that purpose also?
4. I heard there are some issue with call volume as its lower than others? Is it true?
5. Heating up issue? Is there?
Why I choose this phone over nexus 4 or xperia z?
Same hardware as Nexus 4 but having good camra+water proof body+Better battery life+NFC etc. in the same price.
I know I'll miss the s/w updates..Will I be able to use stock android latest updates on this in case I want to?
Comparing to Xperia Z couple of things are more as in the price of 5K..
Why I came to ask here, Coz if I see under Xperia Z or Nexus 4 there are lots of threads regarding android development custom roms, tweaks...but under ZR, I see a few...
Things are pretty much confusing me...
Please guide me even if I miss anything help me to get a better phone ..
Thanks Alot
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Hi,
1. Yes, you will be able to root and unlock the bootloader.
2. This phone has very limited worldwide availability, so very limited dev support too. There are virtually no ROMs for this device save for CM by FXP. That's also why the Xperia ZR forum is under the 'Legacy & Low activity devices' forum.
3. For Android development (both apps & ROMs), the phone should be great. It's basically the same as Xperia Z except for some software changes. If you're learning development and you become good at it, you can contribute to the ZR development forum yourself.
4. I've just got my ZR and haven't put a SIM card in yet, so haven't checked the call volume, but Sony provides a lot of settings to tweak call volume in Settings -> Call settings.
5. Almost every new generation phone gets hot. Unlike PCs, there's no fan heatsink + thermal paste to quickly radiate the heat from the CPU. It has to dissipate from the back of the device, and quad-core CPUs get quite hot during gaming and other CPU intensive tasks. Adding to that, the battery also generates some heat. So it's natural for a high end CPU bearing phone/tablet to get hot. That said, ZR heats up less than Xperia Z from what I know, both having the same processor. I'm guessing this is because of the thicker back on ZR. HTC One, Nexus 4, Samsung Galaxy S4, Nexus 7 all heat up so it's not a deal breaker.
TL;DR -
Custom ROM support - Don't buy ZR, it doesn't have any save for one at the moment. Whether the situation will improve in future, I don't know, but it seems unlikely because of ZRs limited availability. I bought ZR for my dad because custom ROMs and stuff don't matter to him. Regarding upgrades, Sony has already promised to update ZR to 4.3, and they might also update it to the next version too. For that we'll have to wait and see.
Excluding ROM support, there's absolutely no reason not to buy ZR. Compared to Z, the smaller 4.55" 720p screen actually contributes to battery life as there's slightly less backlight area + the GPU has to power far less pixels than a 1080p screen (less that half the number), and the screen clarity is great because of the smaller size (greater pixel density than a 5" 720p screen for example). You really can't make out the difference between 720p and 1080p screens at the normal distance you hold your phone at while using it. Only if you look very, very closely. So the added battery life advantage is a bonus. The battery is also removable, so you can keep a spare with you to swap immediately if you ever need to do that, and even when the battery goes bad you can easily replace it with a new one yourself. This phone also has a higher water-proof rating, and feels very sturdy compared to the glass backed Xperia Z.
The only real disadvantages of the ZR compared to Z are the much lower resolution front facing camera (but then again most video calling apps don't do HD and therefore don't make use of a high-res camera), and 8GB internal storage instead of 16GB. That might be a problem if you install a lot of games and the phone doesn't allow to move them to a microSD card. I'm not sure if it allows that or not, so you'll have to check with others.
If you want ROM support, buy Nexus 4 or Xperia ZR. They have PLENTY of ROMs. If you don't care about that so much, you can't go wrong with this phone. You'll also get at least Android 4.3 officially by Sony, if not the next version too.
Hope that helped.
S_Singh said:
@CressKH
Thanks alot...
I have a doubt I dont see much developer theard for ZR. I can't see more of Official ROMs from cyan,akop,miui..
please clear me there
Thanks
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As you can see, XZR is currently still in Low Activity Devices.
I think primarily it's because the fact that it's the 3rd sibling in Xperia Z series.
People are just happy with Z or ZL, or fed up with the releases.
Nevertheless, it offers much features that Z or ZL can't compare with, and that's why I chose it.
ZR is good for smart phone user,
Nexus family is good for rom tester.
yes fellas....
finally considering all the aspects I got it > Xperia ZR...
excited to test it....will do all type of test for what it stands for...
Thanks for your advices
S_Singh said:
yes fellas....
finally considering all the aspects I got it > Xperia ZR...
excited to test it....will do all type of test for what it stands for...
Thanks for your advices
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Haha, congrats! First thing I did was dunk it in a bowl of water. :good:
Be careful. My last phone wasn't water resistant and I had to fight hard with Sony to get it replaced.
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Help!
I am also planning to buy Xperia ZR but my only concern is Call Recording feature. Will any developer work on any custom rom for xr?? Or the support will be less?? SHould I go for S4 then? (But, I dislike S4's design).. Pls. guide..
techie_vintage said:
I am also planning to buy Xperia ZR but my only concern is Call Recording feature. Will any developer work on any custom rom for xr?? Or the support will be less?? SHould I go for S4 then? (But, I dislike S4's design).. Pls. guide..
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Cyanogenmod and FXP guys are already doing great job for our phones,so yes there is an active developement.Go for the ZR,its great phone. (S4 sux a..s for me too )
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I am also planning to buy Xperia ZR but my only concern is Call Recording feature. Will any developer work on any custom rom for xr?? Or the support will be less?? SHould I go for S4 then? (But, I dislike S4's design).. Pls. guide..
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I use acr and it records my calls perfectly, even on Bluetooth.
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djpeesh said:
I use acr and it records my calls perfectly, even on Bluetooth.
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is this soft available on google play? What is it's full name? Can u pls. Send a sample clip of d rec?? Pls..
Here's a link to the software. Will update a clip soon. Btw, I bought the premium version that uploads the recordings to Google drive.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nll.acr
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How many people Don't like android 4.3 please tell to Sony
1.Consuming too much power and affecting battery life.
2.Scrolling is very noisy so need too much repolish user interface.Project butter isn't works. Every application is not smooth e.g - in clock move from world clock to timer breaks, home screen, gallery, slide show is bad.
3.Some applications run in background always live in notification bar eg - Uc Web background download always shows in notification bar "Uc Web is running tap to more information "
4. Bugs with Blutooth, wifi, nfc
5. With this operating system applications run problematic not perfectly like chrome
6. Old camera UI was excellent - excellent..look and functionality.New UI looks very very bad and decreased quality.
7.Problem with video recording.
8. New Keyboard app is very very bad We want old keyboard.
9. Ram management is bad.
I have none of those problems, apart from a small decrease in quality from the camera.
Battery consumption is the same as 4.2 for me and everything seems smoother than before.
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kingvortex said:
I have none of those problems, apart from a small decrease in quality from the camera.
Battery consumption is the same as 4.2 for me and everything seems smoother than before.
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+1
just some deep sleep problems but overall its a good update
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No problems here and regarding bad camera stop using auto because it's not dslr but phone camera
[email protected] Z
indycar said:
No problems here and regarding bad camera stop using auto because it's not dslr but phone camera
[email protected] Z
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+1 new update seems great besides that camera quality which in reality is still fine.
Btw OP, whats your question? It seems like this is mostly a general post instead of a Q&A. I see the first part of your question but the second part doesnt seem to fit. Are you going to tell Sony? Or do you want answers in order to take a petition to Sony? Which I doubt will be looked at.
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In 4.3, Camera quality decrease than 4.2.2 & some of the applications r not working in 4.3. In Menu Page, icon & appear very bad.
kingvortex said:
I have none of those problems, apart from a small decrease in quality from the camera.
Battery consumption is the same as 4.2 for me and everything seems smoother than before.
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See clock application and go from world clock to timer by swipe then you will see that it stuck.Not only this everywhere its not smooth
In Xperia zr specially poor graphics are shown please check the benchmarks and share results
Battery is really going down very fast
What about keyboard
Sony Xperia Z: Android 4.3
Very good !! Could come in 4.4.2..
kingvortex said:
I have none of those problems, apart from a small decrease in quality from the camera.
Battery consumption is the same as 4.2 for me and everything seems smoother than before.
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I agree fully with you. No noteworthy problems/bugs.
I am asking me why "much" users have problems with 4.3...
gripfly said:
I agree fully with you. No noteworthy problems/bugs.
I am asking me why "much" users have problems with 4.3...
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Agreed.
All is very well in this latest update.
My personal feel is just user problem.
Vectors
adamtan said:
Agreed.
All is very well in this latest update.
My personal feel is just user problem.
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No my dear I want to just tell you that I am not saying that it is so buggy. I just want to tell you that see there are need of repolish of UI like done in Xperia z1 14.X.X.. And some applications are bad like clock, keyboard, Sometime stuck animations and battery issues in Zr, etc
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No my dear I want to just tell you that I am not saying that it is so buggy. I just want to tell you that see there are need of repolish of UI like done in Xperia z1 14.X.X.. And some applications are bad like clock, keyboard, Sometime stuck animations and battery issues in Zr, etc
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this is a z thread, no zr.
we z guys don't have that placebo's, stop complaining!
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hate the white ui .... no issues with operation ,battery ,bugs etc