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Where can I buy an unlocked Note 3 N9005 that would work with AT&T?

I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?

Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.

xclub_101 said:
I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.
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http://negrielectronics.com/phones/android-mobile-c-67.html
According to the above link...the 16 gb version does exist.

Does the n9005 model have AT&T LTE for sure?
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Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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Before committed to pay big $ for the phone ... check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964

I'd buy what you're looking for in a heartbeat - if it existed. So far it doesn't. At least not ln any of the N3's for the UK, EU, or Latin America that have been announced. The Korean S-800 SGS4 supports AT&T's bands so their N3 probably will also. But the Korean phones have funky TV h/w and a funky MMS system that's different than Western versions. Rogers' (Canada) version will be compatible with AT&T LTE and may be closer to "virgin" than AT&T's version. The challenge is warranty service both because you'd have to send it to Canada for repair (assuming Rogers' services a phone for a non-subscriber) and because Knox prevents resetting the warranty status if a non-standard ROM's been flashed. Speaking of which, you'd probably only be able to flash Rogers' ROMs via Odin unless their N3 was a "pure" i9505 capable of using international ROMs.
And as someone above mentioned there's some question as to what "unlocked" means with the N3 as there are now regional limitations on top of carrier's locking phones to their networks.
If I find a true international N3 that works on AT&T's LTE that's not regionally SIM locked I'll let you know. Until then I'm sticking with AT&T's version and hoping they haven't molested it too badly.

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Lets knock off the keyboard hero stuff and get back on topic.

The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700

designgears said:
The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700
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Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.

choch69 said:
Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.
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You can't just say "N9005" and expect to get an answer. "N9005" refers to generic Snapdragon 800 LTE capable version of GN3, but each country and carrier in the world has different LTE bands enabled in that Snapdragon's SoC radio. Find your Rogers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It operates on bands 4 and 7 - none of the Euro countries' carriers work on band 4, as you can see from the list. AT&T USA, T-Mobile USA and Rogers CA should be LTE cross compatible in most coverage areas, but not all.
If you buy N9005 version with unlocked bootloader - later, when someone makes Odin compatible with GN3 you will be able to flash Roger's LTE modem firmware to your N9005, no matter which country it is from and what LTE bands it currently has enabled

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.

This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.
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omegacell said:
This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.

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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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The OP needs to take into consideration that If he buys from an online retailer an international unit, this unit will need to be activated in its intended region before he can use it in the states.

Apo11on said:
you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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I've never heard of that. Seems like a problematic setup since the RF properties of bands can vary so much. Seems like you would get in a situation where you have up but not downstream or vice versa.
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.

omegacell said:
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.
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Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?

Apo11on said:
Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?
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Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".

omegacell said:
Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".
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that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.

Apo11on said:
that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.[/QUOTEN
N9005 from HK or Singapore (perhaps others too) will work.
The South American N9000 are region locked to South American, North American, carribean etc. SIM cards (western hemisphere).
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[Q] XT1058 vs XT1053 & flashing them

I have seen several posts on flashing XT1053(retail/tmobile/developer) firmware on XT1058(AT&T/Rogers/etc) hardware. I believe most people were only doing the OS though and not the entire flash(including the radio/modem)
The XT1053 is FCC ID ihdt56pa2 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 1700/850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04 and 17
The XT1058 is FCC ID ihdt56pa1 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04,05 and 17
So the differences are that the XT1053 supports wcdma 1700 and the XT1058 supports LTE band 05.
Wcdma 1700 is the same frequency range as LTE band 04, LTE band 05 is 850 Mhz. So it would really seem the two models should both be able to support the same frequencies/bands. The iFixit tear down of an XT1058 indicated it has a multimode power amplifier module for Quad-Band GSM / EDGE and Penta-Band (Bands I, II, IV, V, VIII) WCDMA/ HSDPA/ HSUPA/ HSPA+/ LTE. It also has a separate power amp for LTE bands 12 and 17.
I can't see Motorola applying for multiple FCC ID certifications if the hardware really was identical but who really knows what the differences are. Is there a limitation to the total number of bands the phone controller can handle, so in one phone they selected wcdma 1700 and the other they selected LTE band 05? Is it possible AT&T wanted a phone that specifically couldn't do wcdma 1700 mhz?
I'm reasonably new to android and haven't done a lot of flashing, can someone please confirm if the full retail flash from an XT1053 can be loaded into an XT1058 (I assume an unlocked bootloader is required). And if someone has done it can they report back that the radio portion of the flash is updated and what the results are.
I'm also puzzled why Motorola got Canadian certification for the XT1058 model. If they had the XT1053 certified for use in Canada it would work on 5 providers instead of the three the XT1058 supports here(again unless that was purposely selected by Rogers Canada so the phone couldn't be used on two of the other providers here once sim unlocked).

Steve-x said:
I have seen several posts on flashing XT1053(retail/tmobile/developer) firmware on XT1058(AT&T/Rogers/etc) hardware. I believe most people were only doing the OS though and not the entire flash(including the radio/modem)
The XT1053 is FCC ID ihdt56pa2 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 1700/850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04 and 17
The XT1058 is FCC ID ihdt56pa1 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04,05 and 17
So the differences are that the XT1053 supports wcdma 1700 and the XT1058 supports LTE band 05.
Wcdma 1700 is the same frequency range as LTE band 04, LTE band 05 is 850 Mhz. So it would really seem the two models should both be able to support the same frequencies/bands. The iFixit tear down of an XT1058 indicated it has a multimode power amplifier module for Quad-Band GSM / EDGE and Penta-Band (Bands I, II, IV, V, VIII) WCDMA/ HSDPA/ HSUPA/ HSPA+/ LTE. It also has a separate power amp for LTE bands 12 and 17.
I can't see Motorola applying for multiple FCC ID certifications if the hardware really was identical but who really knows what the differences are. Is there a limitation to the total number of bands the phone controller can handle, so in one phone they selected wcdma 1700 and the other they selected LTE band 05? Is it possible AT&T wanted a phone that specifically couldn't do wcdma 1700 mhz?
I'm reasonably new to android and haven't done a lot of flashing, can someone please confirm if the full retail flash from an XT1053 can be loaded into an XT1058 (I assume an unlocked bootloader is required). And if someone has done it can they report back that the radio portion of the flash is updated and what the results are.
I'm also puzzled why Motorola got Canadian certification for the XT1058 model. If they had the XT1053 certified for use in Canada it would work on 5 providers instead of the three the XT1058 supports here(again unless that was purposely selected by Rogers Canada so the phone couldn't be used on two of the other providers here once sim unlocked).
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Rogers Canada has the 1058 , I usually flash at&t Roms but I have flashed t-mobile Roms too.
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can i flash t-mobile moto x firmware to my att moto x? just to remove the sim unlock code?

deviantartjr said:
can i flash t-mobile moto x firmware to my att moto x? just to remove the sim unlock code?
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No I don't believe so
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Hmm, bad news for me
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Flash retail developer edition in xt1058 unlocked bootloader
Hello, this is my first first post, but i have been reading this forum since years ago.
I have a XT1058, i bought it in Mexico (America Movil version, shipped with locked bootloader). Following Motorola instructions I acquire to unlock the bootloader, then I followed one thread from here and flashed the AT&T KitKat, everithing is running fine so far.
Now I'm wondering is possible or anyone from here have the experience of flash a developer firmware in a XT1058 with unlocked bootloader (MOTO X, GSM Dev Edition:KK 4.4-13.11.1Q2.X-69-3_MR2 (Retail)), I want a more clean installation, without the bloatware included in the AT&T rom.
It is possible to mess the radios? I want to keep the LTE service.
Any comment will be really appreciated.
Thanks

Bernardo_O said:
Hello, this is my first first post, but i have been reading this forum since years ago.
I have a XT1058, i bought it in Mexico (America Movil version, shipped with locked bootloader). Following Motorola instructions I acquire to unlock the bootloader, then I followed one thread from here and flashed the AT&T KitKat, everithing is running fine so far.
Now I'm wondering is possible or anyone from here have the experience of flash a developer firmware in a XT1058 with unlocked bootloader (MOTO X, GSM Dev Edition:KK 4.4-13.11.1Q2.X-69-3_MR2 (Retail)), I want a more clean installation, without the bloatware included in the AT&T rom.
It is possible to mess the radios? I want to keep the LTE service.
Any comment will be really appreciated.
Thanks
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I have a PR XT1058 and I'm running the Retail 4.4 ROM that you mentioned above and it's running fine. Apart from a little higher battery drain (I think), there's nothing to complain about.

I am also using the retail(tmobile) 4.4 with XT1058 hardware. I did flash the NON_HLOS.bin and fsg.mbn from the AT&T 4.4(XT1058 hardware) build though. I can't say for certain it makes a difference but I really feel like I see less time without a signal. I don't use 2600 Mhz/Band 7 LTE so I can't say if it is enabled or disabled at the moment.

Steve-x said:
I am also using the retail(tmobile) 4.4 with XT1058 hardware. I did flash the NON_HLOS.bin and fsg.mbn from the AT&T 4.4(XT1058 hardware) build though. I can't say for certain it makes a difference but I really feel like I see less time without a signal. I don't use 2600 Mhz/Band 7 LTE so I can't say if it is enabled or disabled at the moment.
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How's your battery life?

Thanks you guys, I'll try the dev firmware, the worst thing that can happen is go back to AT&T in case something doesn't work properly

mschumacher69 said:
How's your battery life?
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Excellent. I have no weird drains of any kind. I don't use wifi at all and only turn location services on if needed. I generally have the phone off charge for 17 hours per day, 2 hours of screen on time and end the day with 60 to 70% battery remaining. Most days I see a no signal percentage of 1 to 3%, if I disable LTE I will see no signal loss at all. My LTE is on the AWS band so its not super strong most places and only works upstairs at my house, in the basement I go back to HSPA.
I have switched between the AT&T 4.4 and the retail 4.4 build several times. I really did feel the AT&T build gave slightly better battery life until I flashed the modems. It is not a big enough difference to really quantify though. I have thought maybe the modem code in the Moto X was the same in all builds and it just selected the proper radios based on the detected hardware. I don't believe that is actually the case any longer though as I have read people with XT1058 hardware have lost the 2600 mhz band with the stock retail modem.
If my provider used the 2600 mhz band I'd test and verify but it is the other provider in town using it.

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Excellent. I have no weird drains of any kind. I don't use wifi at all and only turn location services on if needed. I generally have the phone off charge for 17 hours per day, 2 hours of screen on time and end the day with 60 to 70% battery remaining. Most days I see a no signal percentage of 1 to 3%, if I disable LTE I will see no signal loss at all. My LTE is on the AWS band so its not super strong most places and only works upstairs at my house, in the basement I go back to HSPA.
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Wow I wish I could say the same! My phone is currently at 15h 55m on battery and I'm down to 47%. Mobile data is off but everything else is on. Screen time is 37m.
Steve-x said:
I have switched between the AT&T 4.4 and the retail 4.4 build several times. I really did feel the AT&T build gave slightly better battery life until I flashed the modems. It is not a big enough difference to really quantify though. I have thought maybe the modem code in the Moto X was the same in all builds and it just selected the proper radios based on the detected hardware. I don't believe that is actually the case any longer though as I have read people with XT1058 hardware have lost the 2600 mhz band with the stock retail modem.
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I just compared the md5 hashes of NON-HLOS.bin from ATT_XT1058_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-X-17-54_CFC_1FF.xml and TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-X-17-57_MR1_CFC.xml and they don't match. So the modem code in the Moto X is not the same in all builds, I think it's actually the other way round. I think the modem hardware is the same in all models and it just selects the proper radios based on loaded ROM.

On the weekend I didn't charge the phone Saturday night, phone was off charger for two days, 3.5 hours of screen on time, still had 25% when I plugged it in last night. I really found my biggest drain was the GPS and wifi looking for location all the time. I could care less if I ever use wifi so I leave it off. I don't want anything tracking me so I prefer to have GPS off completely. It does mean certain features don't work as well as intended though, I can't just ask google to tell me the temperature outside, it will get the location wrong as it has to fall back to my providers wireless IP location which is not that close to me.
Also got my dream phrase to work pretty good, I use "ok skynet now" to get the X to do stuff for me.

mschumacher69 said:
I just compared the md5 hashes of NON-HLOS.bin from ATT_XT1058_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-X-17-54_CFC_1FF.xml and TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.2.2-13.9.0Q2.X-116-X-17-57_MR1_CFC.xml and they don't match. So the modem code in the Moto X is not the same in all builds, I think it's actually the other way round. I think the modem hardware is the same in all models and it just selects the proper radios based on loaded ROM.
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I am pretty sure it is actually different, if they could make one hardware model they would as it would save them a ton of money. Receiving the FCC certifications for the different hardware is expensive, as is making more then one model. I know using the retail build does not magically enable HSPA/WCDMA on band 4 on my XT1058, I've checked several times.
Or if they aren't different they are programmed as different from the factory. If you do a "fastboot getvar all" you can see there is a flag which sets the radio hardware installed, it is 0x01 for an XT1058 and different for other models.
The CDMA models are also different for certain as they have an extra CDMA baseband processor in them which has been verified by hardware teardown.

Steve-x said:
I am pretty sure it is actually different, if they could make one hardware model they would as it would save them a ton of money. Receiving the FCC certifications for the different hardware is expensive, as is making more then one model. I know using the retail build does not magically enable HSPA/WCDMA on band 4 on my XT1058, I've checked several times.
Or if they aren't different they are programmed as different from the factory. If you do a "fastboot getvar all" you can see there is a flag which sets the radio hardware installed, it is 0x01 for an XT1058 and different for other models.
The CDMA models are also different for certain as they have an extra CDMA baseband processor in them which has been verified by hardware teardown.
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Makes sense...

Steve-x said:
I have switched between the AT&T 4.4 and the retail 4.4 build several times. I really did feel the AT&T build gave slightly better battery life until I flashed the modems. It is not a big enough difference to really quantify though. I have thought maybe the modem code in the Moto X was the same in all builds and it just selected the proper radios based on the detected hardware. I don't believe that is actually the case any longer though as I have read people with XT1058 hardware have lost the 2600 mhz band with the stock retail modem.
If my provider used the 2600 mhz band I'd test and verify but it is the other provider in town using it.
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I bought a used AT&T Moto X XT1058, now running KitKat 4.4 on the stock rom, but rooted so that I could use my Tmobile SIM.
I've been trying to find a way to flash the retail version of KitKat 4.4 in place of the AT&T rom, but I don't see how to do it with a locked bootloader. Can you explain (or point to a thread) how you were able to switch from AT&T 4.4 to retail 4.4?
Thanks!

galt$gulch said:
I bought a used AT&T Moto X XT1058, now running KitKat 4.4 on the stock rom, but rooted so that I could use my Tmobile SIM.
I've been trying to find a way to flash the retail version of KitKat 4.4 in place of the AT&T rom, but I don't see how to do it with a locked bootloader. Can you explain (or point to a thread) how you were able to switch from AT&T 4.4 to retail 4.4?
Thanks!
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My XT1058 is from Rogers Canada, they allow bootloader unlocking. I don't think it can be done with a locked bootloader.

galt$gulch said:
I bought a used AT&T Moto X XT1058, now running KitKat 4.4 on the stock rom, but rooted so that I could use my Tmobile SIM.
I've been trying to find a way to flash the retail version of KitKat 4.4 in place of the AT&T rom, but I don't see how to do it with a locked bootloader. Can you explain (or point to a thread) how you were able to switch from AT&T 4.4 to retail 4.4?
Thanks!
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I don't think @Steve-x has an AT&T XT1058, he probably has one of those Latin American XT1058s (like mine) which bootloader can be unlocked.
Edit: He just confirmed that it's actually a Canadian XT1058.
Afaik, you cannot flash another carrier's ROM with a locked bootloader unless both carrier ROMs have the same CID. For example, all Latin American ROMs are CID12, so I think you can flash ROMs from different Latin American carriers on a Latin American phone without unlocking the bootloader, but you wouldn't be able to flash another ROM which has a different CID.
I 'm not sure what CID the Retail US ROM has, but I don't think it has the same CID as the AT&T ROM.

mschumacher69 said:
I don't think @Steve-x has an AT&T XT1058, he probably has one of those Latin American XT1058s (like mine) which bootloader can be unlocked.
Edit: He just confirmed that it's actually a Canadian XT1058.
Afaik, you cannot flash another carrier's ROM with a locked bootloader unless both carrier ROMs have the same CID. For example, all Latin American ROMs are CID12, so I think you can flash ROMs from different Latin American carriers on a Latin American phone without unlocking the bootloader, but you wouldn't be able to flash another ROM which has a different CID.
I 'm not sure what CID the Retail US ROM has, but I don't think it has the same CID as the AT&T ROM.
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Thanks guys. Okay. I'll keep watching for boot loader exploits, or otherwise see about selling my phone to buy a T-Mobile version.

Hi, I also flashed unmodéle XT1058 AmericaMovil with TMO-Rom XT1053 and my Moto x became a 1053 XT, so it's great ROM that determines xTxxx type and not the hardware.
Best rergards - The 4G is already on use in Belgium , with this configuration and carrier BASE . . . Enjoy !

[Q] Moto X XT1058 is it usable in europe?

Hello
My friend spoted on ebay that the Moto X Xt1058 is in good price 280$ (at least for me this is good price - I would prefere a version from moto maker but its to expensive)
Will this version work properly in Poland with my GSM provieder?
The bands of my GSM provider are:
"PLAY" uses EGSM 900 for its 2G services and UMTS 2100 and UMTS 900 for 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(telecommunications)
Play - LTE 1800 MHz
thanks for support

It will work but LTE is probably not going to work
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Penetratore said:
Hello
My friend spoted on ebay that the Moto X Xt1058 is in good price 280$ (at least for me this is good price - I would prefere a version from moto maker but its to expensive)
Will this version work properly in Poland with my GSM provieder?
The bands of my GSM provider are:
"PLAY" uses EGSM 900 for its 2G services and UMTS 2100 and UMTS 900 for 3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(telecommunications)
Play - LTE 1800 MHz
thanks for support
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All XT1058 Variants support ALL the GSM & UMTS bands you have listed.
If possible, don't get the AT&T version because you cannot unlock the bootloader, and it comes SIM-locked. If you can get the Rogers Canada version or pretty much ANY other XT1058 you should be able to unlock the bootloader and AFAIK all the variants except AT&T come sim-unlocked...
Good Luck

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If possible, don't get the AT&T version because you cannot unlock the bootloader, and it comes SIM-locked. ...
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Thanks for the tip. Root and loading mods is very important to me.
Now the moto x is still the flagship. But soon we will have the succesor. Do you Think it will supported in 1-2 years?

I use an xt1058 (att version) for more than a year in the Netherlands (and the rest of Europe); never had any issues with it, even 4g works as charm.

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I use an xt1058 (att version) for more than a year in the Netherlands (and the rest of Europe); never had any issues with it, even 4g works as charm.
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Thanks for the comment bmszabo. Are you the original owner? Likely someone (yourself even?) had it sim-unlocked....or are the AT&T variants already sim-unlocked for international use? I know for certain that the Sprint XT1056 variants are SIM-locked for both domestic AND international.
As for the bootloader, unless you used the China Middleman, it should still be locked down.

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Thanks for the comment bmszabo. Are you the original owner? Likely someone (yourself even?) had it sim-unlocked....or are the AT&T variants already sim-unlocked for international use? I know for certain that the Sprint XT1056 variants are SIM-locked for both domestic AND international.
As for the bootloader, unless you used the China Middleman, it should still be locked down.
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It was an eBay bargain; sim-unlocked ATT Moto X; don't know HOW it was unlocked, but it works just perfect with my Dutch provider (and any other European carriers). In US workes fine with ATT; only thing, but only if I am in the US is a nag message about 'unable to sign in to ATT', or something similar..

What about the version with "bad ESN" ?
Is it only blocked for US or also for europe ?

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What about the version with "bad ESN" ?
Is it only blocked for US or also for europe ?
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It will depend entirely on whether or not AT&T adds blacklisted IMEIs to the international banned list. Can someone comment on whether or not this data is shared internationally?

Questions about Nexus 6

As the title says, i need to know since i wont find anything anywhere.
Next month ill be buying the Nexus 6 comming from a note 3
Whats the difference in model number? Eg XT1100, XT1103
International and US version of the phone.
Is there any hardware specific modem changes that i should be aware of before buying it?
Does it matters to me? (Living in Sweden)
Are all custom roms compatible with both model numbers?
Thanks in advance.

International model (XT1100) is made for GSM, as networks in the developed world are all GSM.
N. America model (XT1103) is backwards-compatible with CDMA2000, and also supports some LTE bands unique to the US (Sprint & Verizon, mostly).
Unless noted otherwise by the dev, all the roms here are supported on both models.

synisterwolf said:
International model (XT1100) is made for GSM, as networks in the developed world are all GSM.
N. America model (XT1103) is backwards-compatible with CDMA2000, and also supports some LTE bands unique to the US (Sprint & Verizon, mostly).
Unless noted otherwise by the dev, all the roms here are supported on both models.
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So in other words, i want the XT1100 version of the device since im not in the us and Sprint nor Verizon is available here in Sweden.
Thanks! Great info

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So in other words, i want the XT1100 version of the device since im not in the us and Sprint nor Verizon is available here in Sweden.
Thanks! Great info
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The 1103 US version has a different radio chip wich supports different LTE bands then the 1100 World (including EU) version.

Custom ROMs work on both models. No hardware changes (SD805 and 3GB RAM on both).
Only the radio hardware is different.
The XT1103 supports CDMA from the stone-age, don't know why the americans (VZW/Sprint) haven't moved on yet.
The XT1100 supports the required LTE bands to be used in Sweden. Most likely the common EU Bands (Band 3/Band 7/Band 20).
The XT1103 supports 3 and 7, but not 20 which is the main LTE band in European countries.

India 3T - 4G/LTE not working in US

Hi,
I bought an one plus 3T in india and brought it to US. I'm getting only E not even 3G. When I enquired in T mobile/lyca store, i was told that india unlocked mobile won't support the US bands. Network upgraded. It was big surprise to me. Please suggest me how to unblock additional LTE bands in my 3T mobile.

That's not possible, you should trade your 3t A3003 for a 3t A3000 American band-unlocked model.
Check the specifications for each model under connectivity.
https://oneplus.net/us/3t/specs

Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.

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Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
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Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.

smokin901 said:
India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
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Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.

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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
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Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).

redpoint73 said:
Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
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Talk about synchronicity eh? But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity? In the blind about these stuff, coming from a country that has only one carrier out of five who is still beta testing VoLTE.

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But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity?
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Not an expert, and had to Google that. From what I'm reading, lower frequency (MHz) has better penetration (through buildings, etc.) while higher frequency bands have higher data capacity.

There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol

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Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.

pk-air said:
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.

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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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No you can't switch but you can unlock some bands which might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
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as I said I dont see any reason for it to work

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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.

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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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Why aren't all bands just enabled by default then? I don't understand why there are different models for different regions.
I have a US OP3T and I'm visiting India. It''s working with Jio in India (although it supports only only of the 3 bands used by Jio) but VoLTE doesn't work for some reason.