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Locked vs Unlocked/S-Off vs S-On, Pros and cons

Here is an interesting read about this from HTCdev, check it out!
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/about_unlock_process

letmeputdatipin said:
Here is an interesting read about this from HTCdev, check it out!
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/about_unlock_process
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did you expect them to say anything less? basically what they are saying is "we believe our consumers are too stupid to modify or otherwise personalize their devices, so as a result we have prevented you from access all software on your phone for your own good"

It reminds me of Liar Liar, "That's just something ugly people say to feel better about themselves."
"That's just something phone manufacturers say to feel something better about their software"
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Thats funny sh!t
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Theyre really just saying, we dont think you need it so why bother.

I'm debating about unlocking my phone and instal a Rom right now or wait and see. I usually root all phones but I was one of those dumbasses that flashed my EVO 3D with the virgin mobile version. Lucky me I didn't have most of the side effects people were complaining about. I just had the VM banners and some times text messages errors, but CM 10.1 make it go away.
Anyone have any cons about unlocking my phone and flash a rom right now or wait until we get S-Off if (ever happens).

rtoodeetwo said:
I'm debating about unlocking my phone and instal a Rom right now or wait and see. I usually root all phones but I was one of those dumbasses that flashed my EVO 3D with the virgin mobile version. Lucky me I didn't have most of the side effects people were complaining about. I just had the VM banners and some times text messages errors, but CM 10.1 make it go away.
Anyone have any cons about unlocking my phone and flash a rom right now or wait until we get S-Off if (ever happens).
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No cons from me. I unlocked and rooted within hours of purchasing. Have been on ViperROM for a couple of weeks now. I'm loving it.
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treetolber said:
No cons from me. I unlocked and rooted within hours of purchasing. Have been on ViperROM for a couple of weeks now. I'm loving it.
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Cool, I'm in the process of unlocking the phone.

For right now unlocked is all we need. It gives us access to all the needed parts(system, recovery, boot).
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Can anyone tell me if I unlock is that all I need to install roms or do I needto root as well?
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theeraser88 said:
Can anyone tell me if I unlock is that all I need to install roms or do I needto root as well?
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You need root as well!

theeraser88 said:
Can anyone tell me if I unlock is that all I need to install roms or do I needto root as well?
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you just need to unlock and install either twrp or cwm recovery.

From what I've read this really isn't a big deal. Nexus devices are not S-Off either. All this prevents you from flashing are the radio and bootloader which are not usually modified.

panda.bear said:
From what I've read this really isn't a big deal. Nexus devices are not S-Off either. All this prevents you from flashing are the radio and bootloader which are not usually modified.
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True, although for asop, aokp. and other open source roms a different bootloader maybe required. For the evo 3d the ics bootloader that installed with the firmware from the ota would give bootloops if a asop or aokp rom was flashed.if as a user you would never flash anything other than custom roms for your current version of android then yes an unlocked bootloader is all you need. Another example was the htc flyer. That device shipped with gingerbread when htc released the ota for honeycomb every user was in a hurry to install it, many had flashers remorse and wished to go back to gingerbread. With s-on they were out of luck.

This phone has features we may never see in aosp. I'm holding off on that. Nothing wrong with sense5 though honestly, its way better than any previous versions so far

hotaru2k3 said:
you just need to unlock and install either twrp or cwm recovery.
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Incorrect. You need to flash a superuser app and its binaries as well.

this zip is supposed to turn off read/write protection Sprint_One_Root_Disable_System_RW_Protection (1).zip

I was thinking we are a rare bunch of folks that are control freaks that root our phones.
But it amazes me to see things like Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, ROM Manager apps very near the highest volume Android Apps in the Market !!!
These are obviously "Root" user apps.
Maybe it's because we wipe our phones so often we distort the statistics

I love how they say they don't allow s-off because of "warranty" reasons yet at the bottom of the page it says unlocking your device will render the warranty void. #likewhat
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wranglerray said:
True, although for asop, aokp. and other open source roms a different bootloader maybe required. For the evo 3d the ics bootloader that installed with the firmware from the ota would give bootloops if a asop or aokp rom was flashed.if as a user you would never flash anything other than custom roms for your current version of android then yes an unlocked bootloader is all you need. Another example was the htc flyer. That device shipped with gingerbread when htc released the ota for honeycomb every user was in a hurry to install it, many had flashers remorse and wished to go back to gingerbread. With s-on they were out of luck.
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This is somewhat false. The reason it was causing boot loops was because of the boot.img not flashing properly. It was required when the hboot got updated that we used a process such as "HTC dumblock" to flash the boot.img. Currently for our Ones we are fine because the hboot will allow proper flashing of the boot.img yet in the past, some future updates have blocked this feature. I for one will always want s-off. It gives me full control
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letmeputdatipin said:
You need root as well!
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...and by flashing an internation firmware in case of One sold by sprint also the sim lock is removed?

4.2.2 Sense?

Just curious, is there a 4.2.2 sense rom for the m7spr yet?
I heard there's some floating around for at&t/t-mobile versions, but I haven't seen one for the Sprint model

No.
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I'm with you in the hunt for a compatible ROM for the Sprint HTC One!! I got a question as well. I just got S-OFF and from what I have read I can flash any ROM now. (if I have SUPER CID) Is that true?
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stark1159 said:
I'm with you in the hunt for a compatible ROM for the Sprint HTC One!! I got a question as well. I just got S-OFF and from what I have read I can flash any ROM now. (if I have SUPER CID) Is that true?
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yeah if you want to brick your phone

Check your question u posted twice. You can only flash other CDMA roms. Seeing as we have the only cdma htc one. No u cannot flash a gsm htc one rom.
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HTC_M7 said:
Check your question u posted twice. You can only flash other CDMA roms. Seeing as we have the only cdma htc one. No u cannot flash a gsm htc one rom.
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We were able to flash some international ROMs....until they updated to 4.2.2 in which we lost that. So, in closing... There are NO 4.2.2 Sense ROM's that we can use.
We suck...

Zarboz just put out a dev kernel for sense 4.2.2 sense, have not had time to try it out as more time consuming. But soon I hope and looks like
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avwheeler said:
Zarboz just put out a dev kernel for sense 4.2.2 sense, have not had time to try it out as more time consuming. But soon I hope and looks like
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I don't see any kernel by zarboz in these forums. I'd hold off if I were you to avoid having to recover from bootloops.
The Thanks button is just to avoid "THANKS" posts in threads. Nothing more. Don't defeat the purpose of why it was introduced.

CNexus said:
I don't see any kernel by zarboz in these forums. I'd hold off if I were you to avoid having to recover from bootloops.
The Thanks button is just to avoid "THANKS" posts in threads. Nothing more. Don't defeat the purpose of why it was introduced.
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In original dev, link in op to goo.Im, one step back, good at digging self out of holes. Anyway tried a few, get stuck HTC screen, after replacing modules and boot image as well as fast boot. Will wait for devs at this point, time is lacking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43295448
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[Q] New to Android: How to flash a new rom questions

Okay... I have looked around, saw a few guides, Think its 90% clear to me how to do this.. HOWEVER just to be certain::
First I unlock through htc website..
Root it, then add a custom recovery (clock work mod tool i think??)
Then flash it somehow?
I would appreciate if someone could direct me to a super noob friendly guide on how to do this?
The plan is to put on a google play edition ROM onto my new normal HTC One.
Thanks!

imAmbitious said:
Okay... I have looked around, saw a few guides, Think its 90% clear to me how to do this.. HOWEVER just to be certain::
First I unlock through htc website..
Root it, then add a custom recovery (clock work mod tool i think??)
Then flash it somehow?
I would appreciate if someone could direct me to a super noob friendly guide on how to do this?
The plan is to put on a google play edition ROM onto my new normal HTC One.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
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redbull123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
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Thanks redbull123.

rjd210 said:
Thanks redbull123.
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Thank you very much! :good:

[Q] Is 4.4 available for stock htc one - not Google play version

As the title says...
Have just returned my Nexus 5 for a Htc one in Red. Phone is obviously stock at the moment straight out the box fresh.
Want to install the 4.4 update but what i have seen so far seems to refer to the Google play editions getting it. I am sure im just missing something somewhere but could someone please just advise me...
if i can get it and where (link )
How to install it (guide)
thanks for the help :good:

sorry forgot to add that the phone is a sim free uk version from phones4u
thanks

hpsauce37 said:
As the title says...
Have just returned my Nexus 5 for a Htc one in Red. Phone is obviously stock at the moment straight out the box fresh.
Want to install the 4.4 update but what i have seen so far seems to refer to the Google play editions getting it. I am sure im just missing something somewhere but could someone please just advise me...
if i can get it and where (link )
How to install it (guide)
thanks for the help :good:
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Android Kitkat 4.4 is currently available only for US developer edition
If u want Kitkat immediately convert your mobile to developer edition one
check here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
or you can find many guides in Android development section

Harish_Kumar said:
Android Kitkat 4.4 is currently available only for US developer edition
If u want Kitkat immediately convert your mobile to developer edition one
check here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
or you can find many guides in Android development section
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thanks
confirmed what i thought then, want to keep my htc one with sense (hence the move away from nexus5) so i guess its just the waiting game then until they release it for stock One.

hpsauce37 said:
As the title says...
Have just returned my Nexus 5 for a Htc one in Red. Phone is obviously stock at the moment straight out the box fresh.
Want to install the 4.4 update but what i have seen so far seems to refer to the Google play editions getting it. I am sure im just missing something somewhere but could someone please just advise me...
if i can get it and where (link )
How to install it (guide)
thanks for the help :good:
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U will get the official Sense update by end January. BTW official CM11 nightlies are available

Or you can unlock,flash custom recovery and use a sense based 4.4 custom rom.

The developer edition is Sense, Google Play edition is AOSP(mostly)
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hpsauce37 said:
sorry forgot to add that the phone is a sim free uk version from phones4u
thanks
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I thought the Red One was CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) is yours a GSM Model ?

In the UK my gsm handset was purchased from phones4u who I believe had the exclusive on this colour.
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hpsauce37 said:
In the UK my gsm handset was purchased from phones4u who I believe had the exclusive on this colour.
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Nice !!
like the others said you should be getting the update by the end of next month
but if you want to unlock the bootloader and get started now it's not to hard

jiffy1080 said:
The developer edition is Sense, Google Play edition is AOSP(mostly)
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So can I convert my standard HTC one to a developer addition then?
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Yes you can. Get s-off first and then a follow a guide. It's quite simple
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Ivanovic said:
Yes you can. Get s-off first and then a follow a guide. It's quite simple
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thanks
i forgot to ask above but what actually is the benefits of the developer addition?

Personally i dont see any benefits. It gets updates a little bit sooner but nothing big. If you get an actual developer edition device though you get 64gb of storage and unlocked bootloader
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Ivanovic said:
Personally i dont see any benefits. It gets updates a little bit sooner but nothing big. If you get an actual developer edition device though you get 64gb of storage and unlocked bootloader
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Ok thanks,
Think I will just wait then, device is running really smooth anyway and don't think I'm missing much by not having 4.4
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Sprint HTC ONE M7 USB tethering and hotspot help!!

ok i have a sprint htc one and i am trying to use usb tethering or the hotspot but it keeps telling me i have not subscribed to that service. i have a stock rooted rom. can anyone help me get this working??? im on software version 5.05.651.2 and its kit kat with sense 6.0 (I think its a dev edition from virgin mobile)??

videokid14 said:
ok i have a sprint htc one and i am trying to use usb tethering or the hotspot but it keeps telling me i have not subscribed to that service. i have a stock rooted rom. can anyone help me get this working??? im on software version 5.05.651.2 and its kit kat with sense 6.0 (I think its a dev edition from virgin mobile)??
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I've never seen a purely stock (rooted) ROM with hotspot working. Usually, the custom ROM developer activates it before building his ROM. I know there are some apps in the Play Store that people have had luck with in the past.

I can't seem to get hotspot mode to start. How can I do this??
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videokid14 said:
I can't seem to get hotspot mode to start. How can I do this??
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As coal686 mentioned in the prior post you WILL NOT see the hotspot unlocked on a stock rom. You will need to load one of the many roms where the developer has unlocked it.

Isn't there a way for me to unlock it myself if someone can help me?? Isn't the reason were here to figure it out? How would a dev be able to unlock it and y couldn't I? Sorry, not trying to be smartass or bothersome, but just curious.
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videokid14 said:
Isn't there a way for me to unlock it myself if someone can help me?? Isn't the reason were here to figure it out? How would a dev be able to unlock it and y couldn't I? Sorry, not trying to be smartass or bothersome, but just curious.
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No problem as I had the same question in the past. From my understanding, it has to be unlocked in the developer's "kitchen" before the ROM is compiled. It can't be unlocked in a compiled ROM (unless things have changed since I asked). So, the only way for you to do it would be to build your own ROM. I've never done it before, but there are tutorials on how to do it with Android Kitchen. It would be a big project for you, but I've heard it's very fulfilling.