Locked vs Unlocked/S-Off vs S-On, Pros and cons - Sprint HTC One (M7)

Here is an interesting read about this from HTCdev, check it out!
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/about_unlock_process

letmeputdatipin said:
Here is an interesting read about this from HTCdev, check it out!
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/about_unlock_process
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did you expect them to say anything less? basically what they are saying is "we believe our consumers are too stupid to modify or otherwise personalize their devices, so as a result we have prevented you from access all software on your phone for your own good"

It reminds me of Liar Liar, "That's just something ugly people say to feel better about themselves."
"That's just something phone manufacturers say to feel something better about their software"
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Thats funny sh!t
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Theyre really just saying, we dont think you need it so why bother.

I'm debating about unlocking my phone and instal a Rom right now or wait and see. I usually root all phones but I was one of those dumbasses that flashed my EVO 3D with the virgin mobile version. Lucky me I didn't have most of the side effects people were complaining about. I just had the VM banners and some times text messages errors, but CM 10.1 make it go away.
Anyone have any cons about unlocking my phone and flash a rom right now or wait until we get S-Off if (ever happens).

rtoodeetwo said:
I'm debating about unlocking my phone and instal a Rom right now or wait and see. I usually root all phones but I was one of those dumbasses that flashed my EVO 3D with the virgin mobile version. Lucky me I didn't have most of the side effects people were complaining about. I just had the VM banners and some times text messages errors, but CM 10.1 make it go away.
Anyone have any cons about unlocking my phone and flash a rom right now or wait until we get S-Off if (ever happens).
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No cons from me. I unlocked and rooted within hours of purchasing. Have been on ViperROM for a couple of weeks now. I'm loving it.
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treetolber said:
No cons from me. I unlocked and rooted within hours of purchasing. Have been on ViperROM for a couple of weeks now. I'm loving it.
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Cool, I'm in the process of unlocking the phone.

For right now unlocked is all we need. It gives us access to all the needed parts(system, recovery, boot).
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Can anyone tell me if I unlock is that all I need to install roms or do I needto root as well?
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theeraser88 said:
Can anyone tell me if I unlock is that all I need to install roms or do I needto root as well?
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You need root as well!

theeraser88 said:
Can anyone tell me if I unlock is that all I need to install roms or do I needto root as well?
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you just need to unlock and install either twrp or cwm recovery.

From what I've read this really isn't a big deal. Nexus devices are not S-Off either. All this prevents you from flashing are the radio and bootloader which are not usually modified.

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From what I've read this really isn't a big deal. Nexus devices are not S-Off either. All this prevents you from flashing are the radio and bootloader which are not usually modified.
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True, although for asop, aokp. and other open source roms a different bootloader maybe required. For the evo 3d the ics bootloader that installed with the firmware from the ota would give bootloops if a asop or aokp rom was flashed.if as a user you would never flash anything other than custom roms for your current version of android then yes an unlocked bootloader is all you need. Another example was the htc flyer. That device shipped with gingerbread when htc released the ota for honeycomb every user was in a hurry to install it, many had flashers remorse and wished to go back to gingerbread. With s-on they were out of luck.

This phone has features we may never see in aosp. I'm holding off on that. Nothing wrong with sense5 though honestly, its way better than any previous versions so far

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you just need to unlock and install either twrp or cwm recovery.
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Incorrect. You need to flash a superuser app and its binaries as well.

this zip is supposed to turn off read/write protection Sprint_One_Root_Disable_System_RW_Protection (1).zip

I was thinking we are a rare bunch of folks that are control freaks that root our phones.
But it amazes me to see things like Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, ROM Manager apps very near the highest volume Android Apps in the Market !!!
These are obviously "Root" user apps.
Maybe it's because we wipe our phones so often we distort the statistics

I love how they say they don't allow s-off because of "warranty" reasons yet at the bottom of the page it says unlocking your device will render the warranty void. #likewhat
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True, although for asop, aokp. and other open source roms a different bootloader maybe required. For the evo 3d the ics bootloader that installed with the firmware from the ota would give bootloops if a asop or aokp rom was flashed.if as a user you would never flash anything other than custom roms for your current version of android then yes an unlocked bootloader is all you need. Another example was the htc flyer. That device shipped with gingerbread when htc released the ota for honeycomb every user was in a hurry to install it, many had flashers remorse and wished to go back to gingerbread. With s-on they were out of luck.
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This is somewhat false. The reason it was causing boot loops was because of the boot.img not flashing properly. It was required when the hboot got updated that we used a process such as "HTC dumblock" to flash the boot.img. Currently for our Ones we are fine because the hboot will allow proper flashing of the boot.img yet in the past, some future updates have blocked this feature. I for one will always want s-off. It gives me full control
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letmeputdatipin said:
You need root as well!
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...and by flashing an internation firmware in case of One sold by sprint also the sim lock is removed?

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How do I tell if my phone is rooted?

I bought a "rooted"phone, but I never used android before. I'm guessing the build number? Mine is FRF91. What are some benefits of rooting?
FRF91 is just the version of Android.
Best way is to see if there is an app installed called Super User. Other than that, try downloading an app that required root. Just search for riot on the market.
Search if you want to know what root is for. If you're new, I suggest not rooting your phone.
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OK thanks, I don't have Super User and noticed when using N1Torch it wont let me go super bright since it can't find root. So I guess not. lol. Don't worry, I'm fine for now without rooting, but I come from WinMo having ORD, so I'll need to know how to get custom roms soon. lol
jaszek said:
I bought a "rooted"phone, but I never used android before. I'm guessing the build number? Mine is FRF91. What are some benefits of rooting?
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jaszek said:
OK thanks, I don't have Super User and noticed when using N1Torch it wont let me go super bright since it can't find root. So I guess not. lol. Don't worry, I'm fine for now without rooting, but I come from WinMo having ORD, so I'll need to know how to get custom roms soon. lol
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Perhaps "rooted" in this case meant bootloader-unlocked then? Does your N1 show a padlock icon on the bottom of the first X screen when you boot up? If so, the hard part (and your software warranty) is already done
I know its sim unlocked, ill check for the lock now
EDIT: no padlock, good or bad?
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jaszek said:
I know its sim unlocked, ill check for the lock now
EDIT: no padlock, good or bad?
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All Nexus ones are sim unlocked.
As for no padlock, means you bootloader is locked, which is good. meaning you're completely stock.
There are methods of loading custom roms without unlocking bootloader.
Unlock bootloader (you see padlock) means your Nexus One's software warranty is void.
I don't worry about voiding warranty, that's the first thing I do with most of my electronics lol
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jaszek said:
I don't worry about voiding warranty, that's the first thing I do with most of my electronics lol
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In that case, unlocking the bootloader is by far the easiest way to hack this phone
Once you've got the android SDK installed on your computer, all it takes is the command "fastboot oem unlock" to get your phone's bootloader unlocked. How much easier could it get?
Ok great. I guess ill play around with the phone stock for about a week
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You don't need to unlock the bootloader to root or flash custom roms anymore though so I would suggest using the alternative methods found in the development section and leave your warranty intact. Although most people haven't had a problem replacing their phones with unlocked bootloader there's just no point in risking it anymore because there's no need to do it that way imo.
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How to Keep google from knowing what you have done to your nexus thread

*Okay so this is one of my first posts on this forum so please cut me some slack if I've made a mistake*
My Nexus seven tablet came in the mail today and I've been doing a lot of research on rooting it and installing a kernel. I've searched around the site using the search tool and looked around as much as I can but I just can't seem to find anything talking about how to completely reset the entire tablet as if it just came out of the box; the reason I'm asking this is because I plan on rooting it and installing my own kernel. The problem is I don't want to actually void the warranty in the situation that something were to happen to it that is covered by the warranty, I could reset the tablet completely and send it back to them without them knowing it was ever flashed or rooted!!
The question: there are programs out there that can be used on the computer and the device itself that will allow the user to completely reset the device using a backup taken from the device before any modifications are done to it; what are some programs that sound like those specifications, where can I get it and how can I use it?
ANY help will be rewarded with thanks
Nexus devices are blessed with factory images from Google.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781250
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skadude66 said:
Nexus devices are blessed with factory images from Google.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781250
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This is all that you need, download the factory image you need for your tablet and flash it with nexus root tool 1.52, it's an all in one application that allows you to unlock, root, install cwm and even flash images back to stock. When you flash a google factory image it will wipe the entier tablet and install the stock kernel.
Other than that you're good to go.
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the only thing it won't do it re-lock your tablet so you'll have to do that wit another method.
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The Nexus Root Toolkit 1.52 actually will also re-lock your boot loader. Bottom right button on the GUI.
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The Nexus Root Toolkit 1.52 actually will also re-lock your boot loader. Bottom right button on the GUI.
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dang, didn't even notice it . Updated my previous post, thanks!
It's a Nexus device. You don't have to worry about anything. If needed, download the factory image directly from Google, flash it, and fastboot oem lock to relock the bootloader. Good as new.
It doesn't matter what you have done on your nexus. Warranty covers manufacturer defects (screen lift, other defects people had, etc) and not damages from misuse (dropping it in water, bricking it by flashing a bad file, etc)
It's a Nexus device, made for unlocking and rooting. Google doesn't care one bit. If it has a hardware defect, they will replace it. They built these devices to be as open as possible for you to do anything you want with it.
They even go above and beyond for you to let you hack it and still have a great experience. Originally you couldn't view rented movies on a rooted system because of the movie licensing they had, they went and worked on changing that so rooted users can rent them too now.
Since Google talked about hacking their devices at Google I/O ... I don't think they care anymore ... the only reason they disable some apps due to root is to protect its content .. DRM protected content and like your Wallet
But just as a note ... flashing any factory image will restore your device completely ... so back up all photos, videos, etc ... stuff that isn't stored on the cloud
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It's a Nexus device, made for unlocking and rooting. Google doesn't care one bit. If it has a hardware defect, they will replace it. They built these devices to be as open as possible for you to do anything you want with it.
They even go above and beyond for you to let you hack it and still have a great experience. Originally you couldn't view rented movies on a rooted system because of the movie licensing they had, they went and worked on changing that so rooted users can rent them too now.
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Quick question, will OTA work for any new updates from Google after rooting and being unlocked?
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rushter said:
Quick question, will OTA work for any new updates from Google after rooting and being unlocked?
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If you want updates after you root you have to flash them yourself. It's not that big of a deal, just like flashing anything else. Please don't try to OTA update a rooted device.
Samsung devices are the only ones that I know of that keep track of mods to your device.
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Thank you very much
I am so grateful to have people helping out a noob like me, thanks have been given to everyone here!
I will look into the Nexus Root Toolkit
colonel187 said:
Samsung devices are the only ones that I know of that keep track of mods to your device.
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Some have a watermark to detect when rooted.
nooomoto said:
If you want updates after you root you have to flash them yourself. It's not that big of a deal, just like flashing anything else. Please don't try to OTA update a rooted device.
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You can OTA if you have stock system files and stock recovery
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nooomoto said:
Please don't try to OTA update a rooted device.
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I think you can use Voodoo OTA RootKeeper to update via OTA and still keep root.
colonel187 said:
Samsung devices are the only ones that I know of that keep track of mods to your device.
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I think the official htc and sony bootloader unlock tools leave proof you unlocked too.
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Shano56 said:
Some have a watermark to detect when rooted.
You can OTA if you have stock system files and stock recovery
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You can accept and flash an OTA using a custom recovery, you'll just need to start the update manually.
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[Q] Root, S-Off HTC One 1.31.651.2

Hi guys,
I'm getting a new HTC One, as my current device is having screen issues. My replacement will be in later this week, and it will almost certainly have the new update (1.31.651.2) installed. My old device was able to be S-Off'd using Moonshine, as it is running a supported version (1.29.651.10.) That's the newest version Moonshine supports, so my question is how will I S-Off my new phone? Will Revone work?
Thanks in advance!
Nick M.
Dude it only took me 5 secs to find the answer to your dilemma. Google must always be your first stop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821
babymatteo said:
Dude it only took me 5 secs to find the answer to your dilemma. Google must always be your first stop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821
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I am so sorry! I found that thread, but it just said 1.31. So I wasn't sure if it was what I was looking for. There were more than one 1.29 updates, so I figured the same for 1.31. I'm very deeply sorry!
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nickmilla15 said:
I am so sorry! I found that thread, but it just said 1.31. So I wasn't sure if it was what I was looking for. There were more than one 1.29 updates, so I figured the same for 1.31. I'm very deeply sorry!
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Actually, I've been trying to S-Off my new HTC One with the new 1.31 update for 5 hours now to no avail using Revone. HBOOT 1.44. I keep getting the -6 error. No clue what to do. Help anyone? Who ever can help me will get a $20 PayPal donation.
nickmilla15 said:
Actually, I've been trying to S-Off my new HTC One with the new 1.31 update for 5 hours now to no avail using Revone. HBOOT 1.44. I keep getting the -6 error. No clue what to do. Help anyone? Who ever can help me will get a $20 PayPal donation.
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Check PM
Any luck I can't get s off...
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jimzip69 said:
Any luck I can't get s off...
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Yes PM me
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jimzip69 said:
Any luck I can't get s off...
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Check your PM Jim
bigdaddy619 said:
Yes PM me
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Check your PM Jim
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And if you need any help during the day or night, you can always pm me. Bigdaddy was able to successfully help me get s off. So I can definitely help you
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My tendency is to go ahead and get s-off, but I still struggle with what it will gain you on this particular device. Unlocking the bootloader seems sufficient.
jdjohn said:
My tendency is to go ahead and get s-off, but I still struggle with what it will gain you on this particular device. Unlocking the bootloader seems sufficient.
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One very important thing with s-off is if you get soft bricked on 1.31 you will need s-off to be able to use the 1.29 RUU since as of now there is no 1.31 RUU. That's just one example.
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S-OFF
nickmilla15 said:
And if you need any help during the day or night, you can always pm me. Bigdaddy was able to successfully help me get s off. So I can definitely help you
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So how did you get S-OFF?
wmatheney said:
So how did you get S-OFF?
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Do you need to get s off? If so pm me.
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I'm not even sure if I need S-Off at this point, I'm having an entirely different problem, but this method is perfect for downgrading.
I have an HTC One, 1.31 stock, rooted, android 4.1, no changes have been made whatsoever
As most of you may know, android 4.3 OTA was just released, being rooted it seems OTAs will refuse to install
I understand the main fix to the problem is using the stock recovery, which I've obtained and flashed with no avail using multiple stock recoveries.
Including the recovery in the framework folder of the 4.3 update itself.
I've tried plenty of other methods such as "OTA Root Keeper", again, with no avail..
Looking at the options I have left, it looks like downgrading to a 1.29 RUU using this DD method to remove root and (hopefully) be able to install 4.3 via stock recovery, however I'm not interested resetting my phone.
Again.
I'm curious if someone here has another suggestion to install the OTA Android 4.3 update that won't require me to lose everything!
I'd definitely be willing to throw some $$$, "PayPal donations" as someone else offered, for a fix.
Thanks!
Ramtron said:
I'm not even sure if I need S-Off at this point, I'm having an entirely different problem, but this method is perfect for downgrading.
I have an HTC One, 1.31 stock, rooted, android 4.1, no changes have been made whatsoever
As most of you may know, android 4.3 OTA was just released, being rooted it seems OTAs will refuse to install
I understand the main fix to the problem is using the stock recovery, which I've obtained and flashed with no avail using multiple stock recoveries.
Including the recovery in the framework folder of the 4.3 update itself.
I've tried plenty of other methods such as "OTA Root Keeper", again, with no avail..
Looking at the options I have left, it looks like downgrading to a 1.29 RUU using this DD method to remove root and (hopefully) be able to install 4.3 via stock recovery, however I'm not interested resetting my phone.
Again.
I'm curious if someone here has another suggestion to install the OTA Android 4.3 update that won't require me to lose everything!
I'd definitely be willing to throw some $$$, "PayPal donations" as someone else offered, for a fix.
Thanks!
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Backup you sdcard to your PC
bigdaddy619 said:
Backup you sdcard to your PC
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My SD card contents are always backed up :/
I'm just trying to avoid resetting my phone entirely. Everything is right where I want it to be.
Surely there's another way
Ramtron said:
My SD card contents are always backed up :/
I'm just trying to avoid resetting my phone entirely. Everything is right where I want it to be.
Surely there's another way
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So are you still rooted? Of all you want is 4.3 I can post a link to omjs stock rooted... Haha
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nickmilla15 said:
So are you still rooted? Of all you want is 4.3 I can post a link to omjs stock rooted... Haha
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As far as I know, that won't work because I'm Sprint (CDMA) 4.3 was just released and I'm not seeing any 4.3 custom or stock roms as of now.
Ramtron said:
As far as I know, that won't work because I'm Sprint (CDMA) 4.3 was just released and I'm not seeing any 4.3 custom or stock roms as of now.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
As far as I can figure, the stock rooted 4.3 Sprint ROM here won't include the firmware (radio, etc). Not sure if updating the ROM without the firmware will cause problems (I've read some people's touch screens are going out).

Anybody working on s-off???

anybody working on this or ....id love to have it...plus i cant change anything on my damn system without it!!...i like stock and clean it up myself
DruoGaby said:
anybody working on this or ....id love to have it...plus i cant change anything on my damn system without it!!...i like stock and clean it up myself
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Did you look around? S-off has been out since the first or second week after release.
edit: FAQ post in this same forum. Question #10
henderjr said:
Did you look around? S-off has been out since the first or second week after release.
edit: FAQ post in this same forum. Question #10
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i did look around...there is no root for my device yet...different hardware and release date..firewater only works on the earlier releases of the phone
DruoGaby said:
i did look around...there is no root for my device yet...different hardware and release date..firewater only works on the earlier releases of the phone
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u might want to tell us what device you're using then, my psychic powers are a bit rusty and this is in the forum for the sprint htc one m8
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im posting in the m8 section right??? for sprint...clearly one phone says feb 27th and the newer one says april 1st...the ones from april 1st are not compatible with firewater yet!
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im posting in the m8 section right??? for sprint...clearly one phone says feb 27th and the newer one says april 1st...the ones from april 1st are not compatible with firewater yet!
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ah
did you try it? and where are you finding this date
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ah
did you try it? and where are you finding this date
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in your bootloader
DruoGaby said:
in your bootloader
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so according to my bootloader my hardware is april 1st and i got soff with firewater no problem... did you try it?
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reinaldistic said:
so according to my bootloader my hardware is april 1st and i got soff with firewater no problem... did you try it?
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yes..and nogo something with the exploit not being comfortable with my phone
DruoGaby said:
yes..and nogo something with the exploit not being comfortable with my phone
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well you have to be rooted and unlocked before you can get soff. if you're already good there sometimes firewater has a problem with the hardware regardless of version date... if you already unlocked and got root try doing it again then trying firewater oncemore. if that doesnt work you might want to try to get a different device from sprint/assurion
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reinaldistic said:
well you have to be rooted and unlocked before you can get soff. if you're already good there sometimes firewater has a problem with the hardware regardless of version date... if you already unlocked and got root try doing it again then trying firewater oncemore. if that doesnt work you might want to try to get a different device from sprint/assurion
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hmm i tried and tried and the app said fire water cant s off bla bla bla..hmm captain throw back said they would probably have to wait for an s off update
reinaldistic said:
well you have to be rooted and unlocked before you can get soff. if you're already good there sometimes firewater has a problem with the hardware regardless of version date... if you already unlocked and got root try doing it again then trying firewater oncemore. if that doesnt work you might want to try to get a different device from sprint/assurion
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I'd like to see you explain that to Sprint..
"hey I need you to replace my unlocked rooted device because I cannot achieve security off".
Those of us getting the whelp message just need to be patient...
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neudof said:
I'd like to see you explain that to Sprint..
"hey I need you to replace my unlocked rooted device because I cannot achieve security off".
Those of us getting the whelp message just need to be patient...
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lollllll..after last night mines wont even stay connected to 4g and i did nothing to it..worked fine then bam
DruoGaby said:
lollllll..after last night mines wont even stay connected to 4g and i did nothing to it..worked fine then bam
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What Rom do u use. My HBOOT is from FEB 27th and I get the issue as well at the end after pressing yes it won't take.
I am using Bad Boyz HK version and am going to try with Viper Rom.
trancefreak64 said:
What Rom do u use. My HBOOT is from FEB 27th and I get the issue as well at the end after pressing yes it won't take.
I am using Bad Boyz HK version and am going to try with Viper Rom.
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im on stock...no roms
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im on stock...no roms
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It usually wont S-OFF with a stock carrier Rom you need Dev unlocked and an unsecure Rooted Rom. I think
trancefreak64 said:
It usually wont S-OFF with a stock carrier Rom you need Dev unlocked and an unsecure Rooted Rom. I think
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i kno....lolol..im no noob
Ive found out this...
The HTC M8's are made in different "batches". Each batch of phones they produce will generally have all the same internal parts, from the same parts manufacturer. SOME batches of phones have internal board parts that came from a DIFFERENT parts manufacturer, because HTC ran out of the last run of parts from previous manufacturer. In other words, HTC may produce phones with exactly the same parts, but the parts may come from different manufacturers. So, certain parts from certain manufacturers make it not s-off-able.
This is my understanding, correct me if you think I'm wrong, or you know something I don't.
I'm going to exchange mine and better luck with the 2nd, hopefully it will come from a "good batch"
koolcat7 said:
Ive found out this...
The HTC M8's are made in different "batches". Each batch of phones they produce will generally have all the same internal parts, from the same parts manufacturer. SOME batches of phones have internal board parts that came from a DIFFERENT parts manufacturer, because HTC ran out of the last run of parts from previous manufacturer. In other words, HTC may produce phones with exactly the same parts, but the parts may come from different manufacturers. So, certain parts from certain manufacturers make it not s-off-able.
This is my understanding, correct me if you think I'm wrong, or you know something I don't.
I'm going to exchange mine and better luck with the 2nd, hopefully it will come from a "good batch"
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i just got back from the store with mines...this one came from a good batch..it even feels lighter...im good now..updating apps and **** now
okay now im s offed rooted and ready to goo!!

will lollipop update brake root

will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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most likely.
This is the plague we're not wanting.....buckle up!
K4get said:
will lollipop update brake root & unlocked bootloader on t mobile note 4
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T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
RiverCity.45 said:
T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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Ive been a HTC guy. new to Samsung and I have the at&t version, I want to return it and get T mobile again. I just wanted to know if this was going to be for nothing, after the lollipop update.
It's been so mush fun hex editing, s-off and all that stuff. and if it will continue after the update. from what I've read they are changing the way the kernel boots up.
thanks for the help.
again I am just a 55 year old fart who wants to customize my $700.00 phone the way I want not at&t's way.
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RiverCity.45 said:
T-Mobile doesn't lock their bootloader. Is there some reason to believe that will change with Android 5.0? It certainly will undo root.
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there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely
wase4711 said:
there might not be any other way; after all, 5.0 encrypts your entire phone, so one could assume the bootloader has to be locked for that to happen..
we'll see in a few weeks, most likely
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if I am not mistaken if we are rooted we can block the OTA updates. is this correct?
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well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
wase4711 said:
well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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wase4711 said:
well, no one HAS to take an OTA update, and, if you are rooted, make sure you do NOT take the update..
If you are rooted and on a custom rom, the odds are you wont even get a notification that there is an update..
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I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?
Great choice. T-Mobile is the way to go. Welcome.
K4get said:
ok I've made up my mind. I will return this att note 4 and switch to the
T-Mobile model. thanks guys
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---------- Post added at 10:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 AM ----------
Wrap it in aluminum foil. J/k...just be extra careful not to have quick fingers when and if you do receive an Ota.
hdad2 said:
I don't see any setting to not check for updates like there used to be going back to froyo. How do you prevent an update being downloaded if you're not rooted?
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In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.
RiverCity.45 said:
In past TMO Samsung phones, custom recovery changed the Current Binary setting from Samsung Official to Custom. That alone disabled OTA updates. I suspect it's the same on the N4.Perhaps someone who rooted prior to the NJ7 update can confirm.
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I am on the NJ7 and can confirm any update check comes back with the "custom software, no updates for you" message.
Well I returned the AT&T version and brought home a t mobile note 4.
What are your thoughts about taking the t mobile update. Can we still root and unlock the bootloader if we take the update
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t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..
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t mobile bootloader is already unlocked
and yes ,you can still root after you take the update; all the new roms are based on the updated firmware anyways..
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Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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its all good, super easy to root, to flash TWRP, and to flash a new rom...there are about 5 or 6 already, and they all run really well!
K4get said:
Thanks brother. I thought I seen a couple people having trouble after the update.
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Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.
dawheat said:
Just be sure to read the posts about s-health and private mode. If you can, don't use s-health until after you root and if you plan on using it, disable secure storage in wanam. Otherwise you're going to get some annoying lag.
Also if you're going to flash a custom ROM and want to use the fingerprint scanner, make sure you use the scanner on the stock ROM first. Folks are having issues on custom ROMs if they've never used the scanner beforehand.
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could you tell me what wanam please
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