Hi guys I've just bought a US Cellular Moto X from eBay and I plan to use it here in Australia. I'm not very familiar with CDMA phones as all the networks here in Australia are GSM so I don't know the limitations of CDMA for overseas use. I've heard that an unlocked CDMA phone can be use with a sim card overseas but also heard that the Sprint Moto X can only be unlocked OTA or by flashing another ROM.
So my question is: 'Is there a way to unlock the US Cellular Moto X from overseas for overseas use with a sim card? And also is the boatloader already unlocked or do I have to unlock it myself like the verizon version?
Thanks in advanced
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I'd return it if you can. AFAIK, the sim card slot on US cellular phones is only for their 4g LTE data and is not compatible with gsm networks. I could be wrong on that though.
The unlocked(t-mobile), gsm developer edition, or at&t would be best for gsm networks. Just know that you would probably need to buy a sim unlock code for the at&t model.
If you're looking at unlocking the bootloader, then go with the unlocked or developer model. If you're worried about warranty, get the developer edition since you can unlock the bootloader and you don't void your warranty if you fubar the phone.
Just my two cents.
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chrstndsgnr said:
I'd return it if you can. AFAIK, the sim card slot on US cellular phones is only for their 4g LTE data and is not compatible with gsm networks. I could be wrong on that though.
The unlocked(t-mobile), gsm developer edition, or at&t would be best for gsm networks. Just know that you would probably need to buy a sim unlock code for the at&t model.
If you're looking at unlocking the bootloader, then go with the unlocked or developer model. If you're worried about warranty, get the developer edition since you can unlock the bootloader and you don't void your warranty if you fubar the phone.
Just my two cents.
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Oh okay, because I bought it primarily to use as a kind of iPod replacement. Just to use it primarily for music and stuff because I already have the note 3 as my main phone. I was really wanting to get a T-mobile one but ended getting a really good deal for this one (saved around $150)
It would have been good to be able to use the Moto X as a backup phone or secondary device for when I go overseas or camping or something like that. But I'm not too worried about it, it would have just been nice to know I had the option. And as far as warranty - the phone has a bad ESN so I assume that the warranty is no longer in place? I'm not very familiar with the whole ESN thing either.
So is the boatloader locked on the US Cellular? And also would I be able to receive OTA updates with the bad ESN and all? Sorry for all the questions - I just have no clue on how network providers do their thing in America.
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Why did you buy a most likely stolen/blacklisted phone???????
and yes, it will still receive updates.
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Why did you buy a most likely stolen/blacklisted phone???????
and yes, it will still receive updates.
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Oh okay, that's good to hear.
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. The phone was pretty much brand new with everything so I don't he stole it unless he ran off without paying over the counter. He seemed like an honest person but I wouldn't know really. I just bought it because I sold my iPod and wanted an android replacement for it. Again I do apologise if I offended you in any way but I appreciate you answering my question.
Thanks
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Yes, you can unlock the bootloader on the US Cellular model.
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Can D3 and activate on pageplus?? and where can i get the phone with no contract?
i think verizon offers $459 and amazon offers $549~ but how can i buy the phone with $459 price?
and can i return it if i cant get activated on pageplus
You need a verizon account to purchase the phone, or find a friend that does. The d3 should work on pageplus as its not a new 4glte device that requires a sim to activate, uses an old school *228 activation
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what does that mean??
If I buy the phone from Amazon wireless will it be unlocked, that is, can it work anywhere in the world on any GSM provider's SIM?
A proper answer would be much appreciated.
I seriously wanna buy this phone and I am willing to pay the $550 price at Amazon wireless, if and only if, the phone is unlocked.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the D3 isn't a GSM phone. I'm pretty sure its only a global cdma
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the D3 isn't a GSM phone. I'm pretty sure its only a global cdma
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The Droid 3 is a GSM and CDMA handset, it is mentioned in the verizon manual for this handset that a sim card can be inserted, currently it is suspected however that this is sim locked.
http://cache.vzw.com/multimedia/mim/mot_droid3/droid3.pdf
Go to the Global Phone section in this PDF and it is mentioned
It is a global phone that supports GSM networks. Arguing over it won't help us much. What will help is an answer to which version of the phone is unlocked for all GSM networks.
Its is a GSM global phone, includes a Verizon SIM that is locked. Verizon customers in good standing can get the phone unlocked with a call to Verizon Global support.
JT
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Hmmm....yes, but the question here is whether the phones with no contract are also SIM locked or not.
hi guys, can anyone answer my question
So, here's the response I got from the Amazonwireless guys:
{I'm very sorry but the replacement phones (phone only no service) on Amazonwireless are locked to the carriers. You would need to find an unlocked phone.
There are basically two types of unlocked phones. CDMA Unlocked and GSM Unlocked.
An Unlocked CDMA phone will basically work with carriers like Verizon, Alltel, and Sprint. Unlocked GSM phones work with carriers such as AT&T and T-Mobile.
Unlocked cell phones are designed to work with any carrier that uses SIM cards. Some advanced features may not work depending on the carrier you are using. I would recommend contacting the carrier you are going to be using to ask if the phone you are interested in will work with their network, and if there are any features that you would not be able to use.
If you would like to shop for an unlocked cell phone please visit Amazon.com using the link below
www(dot)amazon(dot)com/cellphones
I hope this information helps. We look forward to seeing you again soon.}
Thomaslau it means that this phone still needs to be activated using *228 which pageplus accepts. 4gLTE phones do not use *228, they use a sim card to activate
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Thomaslau it means that this phone still needs to be activated using *228 which pageplus accepts. 4gLTE phones do not use *228, they use a sim card to activate
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so it will works???
What my understanding is with CDMA is that it's ALWAYS unlocked. The problem lies with carriers not allowing foreign ECID/IMEI's on their network database which allows the phones to work.
Should work flawless
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ok, now i got my droid 3, but i struck at the activation menu, the one with the android robot. what should i do to activate my phone on pageplus?? do i need to activate my phone on verizon then pageplus?
I thought with pageplus you call them, give them the esn from the back of the phone, starts with a000000, then dial *228 when they tell you to
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thx, i will try it
Hello,
this is my dream-mobile and I think I will order one from ebay. The price-range varies alot, and it is certainly cheaper to buy one that is "locked" to for example Verizon. Now, I live in Norway and it's been years since they did this, but laws here made it illegal for operators to lock phones to one operator, so I don't really remember how that works even! But my question is, is it safe for me to buy one that is Locked then I can just root it and unlock it?
Thanks for any reply,
I'm In Italy and I bought a locked phone.
Unlocked it for 10$
here
For use with ATT
I'm also curious as to if this phone can be unlocked. I'm on ATT's network and would love this phone, but only if it will work for ATT's network. I have the Atrix right now, but really love the idea of a touchscreen phone with a full qwerty keyboard.
jack_slapped said:
I'm also curious as to if this phone can be unlocked. I'm on ATT's network and would love this phone, but only if it will work for ATT's network. I have the Atrix right now, but really love the idea of a touchscreen phone with a full qwerty keyboard.
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Yes that is what unlocked means. Lol
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Also OP, this should not be posted in Android Development.
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The D3 can be SIM unlocked either by Verizon themselves or in some cases with a code from a third party vendor, but some cannot be unlocked via online vendors.
The D3 cannot be band unlocked to work on domestic US carriers like ATT or T-Mobile. That is entirely different from the SIM lock for foreign GSM carriers. Verizon has deliberately disabled the GSM bands for US carriers to prevent their branded phones from being used on those networks.
There is no way currently to band unlock the D3 and there may not ever be without the ability to run unsigned radio images on these phones.
So, are you saying that if I buy a locked Verizon phone from ebay, it will be useless here in Norway? As far as I know, locking phones like this is illegal in Norway. But I don't know what "sim lock" and "gsm band" IS..so I don't really understand these replies.
I guess I should buy a "unlocked" D3 from ebay then.
PerKiller said:
So, are you saying that if I buy a locked Verizon phone from ebay, it will be useless here in Norway? As far as I know, locking phones like this is illegal in Norway. But I don't know what "sim lock" and "gsm band" IS..so I don't really understand these replies.
I guess I should buy a "unlocked" D3 from ebay then.
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No read carefully.
You can unlock the phone, and use it in any part of the world.
BUT you can't use it in the US on gsm networks (AT$T and T-mobile USA), unless the band unlocking will become possible.
Iknow that they have band unlocked the d2g for US gsm (at&t/t-mobile US) ,can the same process be used for d3?
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I went to Verizon store the other day to check out MotoX and in settings I saw GSM / HSPA and CDMA / LTE.
does it mean that I can use phone from/on any carried?
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yes on the global usage... but the phone is Sim locked. you'll need to get Verizon to unlock the phone for you for outside US use .
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aldouse said:
yes on the global usage... but the phone is Sim locked. you'll need to get Verizon to unlock the phone for you for outside US use .
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is there additional cost for that? can I do it right away?
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is there additional cost for that? can I do it right away?
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sorry let me rephrase that. you can use the phone overseas immediately.... granting that you're using the Verizon service internationally..... however if you want to use a localized Sim card.... then you need to have your phone unlocked. luckily for you..... Verizon has it in their contract that you can unlock your phone for free. 1 unlock per phone number per account. do a Google search on that and call their customer service. they'll walk you through the steps.
I did it last year when I took my iPhone to Beijing for work and wanted to use a local Sim card instead of racking up international costs...
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aldouse said:
sorry let me rephrase that. you can use the phone overseas immediately.... granting that you're using the Verizon service internationally..... however if you want to use a localized Sim card.... then you need to have your phone unlocked. luckily for you..... Verizon has it in their contract that you can unlock your phone for free. 1 unlock per phone number per account. do a Google search on that and call their customer service. they'll walk you through the steps.
I did it last year when I took my iPhone to Beijing for work and wanted to use a local Sim card instead of racking up international costs...
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I'm on unlimited data plan and don't really want to give it up, so looks like for that I'm going to have to buy a phone for a FULL price (( (so no contract for me), I never had "Global phone" but I think it'd be awesome to unlock this phone to the extend where I'd be able to use it overseas with their local SIM card so I don't have to pay some crazy amount of money to hungry Verizon ;p
VZW hasn't sold locked phones in over a year. I can't speak to the X specifically, but the new Droids are virtually identical and my Maxx is getting T-Mobile 1900 MHz 4G right now. I'm not sure if or how well it'll work with some carriers (US Cellular and Sprint, for example) based on their unique spectrum use, but if you're going to AT&T or T-Mobile it should work fine. Do some more research and ask whichever carrier you're switching to; T-Mobile helped me with setting up their APN manually, as my Maxx didn't detect the settings automatically.
Nobody seems to have told Verizon's tech support that the new phones are wide open, so they'll still tell you that any 4G phone they sell is internationally unlocked but "incompatible" with US GSM carriers. That's what they did with phones like the Droid RAZR, RAZR HD, and Galaxy S3: in the firmware which manages APNs, any network with a US country ID would be rejected as "unknown," so you'd typically get voice and SMS but no data.
I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo?
And if no, then my next question would be if I used it on AT&T, do I lose LTE? I was told mixed things, that I would and I may not have AT&T 4G LTE.
Because then I may just get the Nexus 5.
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I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo? ...
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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).
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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).
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Thanks, would you be able to answer the second question as well?
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You don't lose LTE. You may have to call up AT&T to make sure AT&T lists it as a LTE device, as a few people here have done.
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I'm using the T-Mobile variant on straight talk and I pick up LTE off of at&ts towers
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So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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justinisloco said:
So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Edit: clarifying my train of thought after just waking up.
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Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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You'll get it when T-Mobile releases it. I've never been on their service and I got the notification for kitkat about 10 minutes after I inserted my straight talk sim card that's using at&ts towers
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Can't get straight answers!....HELP if you please
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
Another question:
Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.
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And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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No, you have to get an unlock code from Motorola and it voids your warranty.
Why not just get the GSM Dev Ed and keep your warranty after you unlock it?
I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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Zcam said:
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
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AFAIK, the 850MHz band is only used for 2G/3G, which is usable by the unlocked X. From my research, I don't see anyone with any plans to use LTE on that frequency.
Short answer: If AT&T or one of their roaming partners has service, you should be fine.
Another question:
Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.
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You would not be able to use native tethering unless you pay for the tethering service to the best of my knowledge.
From what I remember of PDA.net from years ago was that it did not need root to function.
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I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was/is the original stance by Motorola. They got a bit of backlash and reversed the decision for the Dev devices only.
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I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was their old policy. Motorola has reversed themselves on that policy.
So, I'm assuming the whole bootloader unlocking process has less to do with the carrier itself and more with the software different carriers actually use on the phone. However, I was wondering if there was a possibility for me to unlock my AT&T MOTO X bootloader if I switch carriers. I'm moving to Europe in about a week and we are discontinuing our AT&T service and unlocking phones to move to a European carrier. Will this allow the possibility to unlock my bootloader? This is probably a stupid question but I was really wondering how it works. I'm not exchanging phone models or anything, I'm keeping the XT1058.
Edit: I won't be on a contract. I'll be using Italian pay-as-you-go services.
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The carrier you are using has nothing to do with the bootloader. Since you have an at&t xt1058, your only option to unlock is the China middleman.
Good luck
Edit: the xt1058 is also Sim locked to at&t so you will need to sim-unlock it to use it on another carrier. This service is available from several online merchants.
Sim unlock and bootloader are two different things. You probably already knew that, but wanted to be sure.
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The carrier you are using has nothing to do with the bootloader. Since you have an at&t xt1058, your only option to unlock is the China middleman.
Good luck
Edit: the xt1058 is also Sim locked to at&t so you will need to sim-unlock it to use it on another carrier. This service is available from several online merchants.
Sim unlock and bootloader are two different things. You probably already knew that, but wanted to be sure.
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I feared as much. I just got the phone about 6 hours ago and I can still return it for a small restocking fee. I will call tomorrow and see if any stores carry the Developer Edition. I also understand the difference between SIM and Bootloader unlock. Thanks for the swift reply, it cleared everything up for me. I have searched about the Chinese Middleman and apparently his services have been discontinued?
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I feared as much. I just got the phone about 6 hours ago and I can still return it for a small restocking fee. I will call tomorrow and see if any stores carry the Developer Edition. I also understand the difference between SIM and Bootloader unlock. Thanks for the swift reply, it cleared everything up for me. I have searched about the Chinese Middleman and apparently his services have been discontinued?
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Find the thread titled "China middleman back". He is available, but can only unlock devices with a 2014 manufacture date (with a few exceptions).
AFAIK, the Developer Editions are only available direct from Motorola. You can also buy the "GSM Unlocked" T-Mobile variant. It comes bootloader-unlockable (straight from Moto's website), AND sim-unlocked for any carrier.
The GSM Unlocked "T-Mobile" variant is identical in every way to the GSM Developer edition, EXCEPT that your warranty is void when you unlock the bootloader. The Dev Edition retains warranty, even after being unlocked. Both of them use the same exact ROM, and neither have any carrier branding or 'bloatware'.
Hope this helps.
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Find the thread titled "China middleman back". He is available, but can only unlock devices with a 2014 manufacture date (with a few exceptions).
AFAIK, the Developer Editions are only available direct from Motorola. You can also buy the "GSM Unlocked" T-Mobile variant. It comes bootloader-unlockable (straight from Moto's website), AND sim-unlocked for any carrier.
The GSM Unlocked "T-Mobile" variant is identical in every way to the GSM Developer edition, EXCEPT that your warranty is void when you unlock the bootloader. The Dev Edition retains warranty, even after being unlocked. Both of them use the same exact ROM, and neither have any carrier branding or 'bloatware'.
Hope this helps.
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Damn, that's bad news for me. The Moto X was virtually a free upgrade for me through AT&T, so getting the Dev Edition through Motorola, I expect I'd have to pay full price regardless. I guess that isn't an option. I looked into that thread and I'm considering purchasing a code, but there is a pretty large possibility I'll just exchange for a different phone and avoid any costs. Its really too bad, I really liked this phone. Should've done my research. Thanks a lot for all the help.
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Damn, that's bad news for me. The Moto X was virtually a free upgrade for me through AT&T, so getting the Dev Edition through Motorola, I expect I'd have to pay full price regardless. I guess that isn't an option. I looked into that thread and I'm considering purchasing a code, but there is a pretty large possibility I'll just exchange for a different phone and avoid any costs. Its really too bad, I really liked this phone. Should've done my research. Thanks a lot for all the help.
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Just one last heads-up:
The XT1058 supports 2 extra LTE bands that the XT1053 (Dev edition OR T-Mobile variant) do not. It is better optimized for use overseas since it supports nearly all the bands used overseas. The Dev / T-Mobile variants DO support one extra UMTS band (AWS band - for HSPA/HSPA+) that is used almost exclusively by T-Mobile.
If you ARE able to get a BL unlock code, your 1058 will be better suited for you to use overseas. SIM-Unlock shouldn't be hard at all, and the codes are very cheap.
So for $45 (BL Unlock) + $10-$15 to SIM-Unlock, you will end up with a device that will work better than the DEV edition will.
See here for a list of supported frequency bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
If you can successfully unlock, you'll be in great shape.....and if you don't, well you will get refunded and then you might consider returning the XT1058....
If you got the phone virtually free, you won't be out much.
Just out of curiosity: If AT&T subsidized your 'upgrade', and you plan to leave them and switch to an overseas carrier, how are you getting out of paying an early termination fee??
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Just one last heads-up:
The XT1058 supports 2 extra LTE bands that the XT1053 (Dev edition OR T-Mobile variant) do not. It is better optimized for use overseas since it supports nearly all the bands used overseas. The Dev / T-Mobile variants DO support one extra UMTS band (AWS band - for HSPA/HSPA+) that is used almost exclusively by T-Mobile.
If you ARE able to get a BL unlock code, your 1058 will be better suited for you to use overseas. SIM-Unlock shouldn't be hard at all, and the codes are very cheap.
So for $45 (BL Unlock) + $10-$15 to SIM-Unlock, you will end up with a device that will work better than the DEV edition will.
See here for a list of supported frequency bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
If you can successfully unlock, you'll be in great shape.....and if you don't, well you will get refunded and then you might consider returning the XT1058....
If you got the phone virtually free, you won't be out much.
Just out of curiosity: If AT&T subsidized your 'upgrade', and you plan to leave them and switch to an overseas carrier, how are you getting out of paying an early termination fee??
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You've rekindled my hopes a fair bit. I was just afraid if my code from the middleman didn't work I'd be out $45. Maybe I will give it a try. I love this phone so much even after just a day. I guess the price would be worth it. As for the whole overseas switching and fee payment, my father is in the military. We are being stationed overseas per military orders, so AT&T is basically waiving the fees. We get upgrades and get out of the contract a little under a year early with virtually no repercussions, which is great. In the end, as much as I desire an unlocked bootloader, I may just keep the phone regardless of whether I can unlock or not. It is really amazing and Im not sure if I'd be happy with another phone I can get through AT&T. If only I could upgrade to Nexus 5 through AT&T, I don't really like Samsung or HTC.
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Yo what about the XT1056?
dmonleo said:
Yo what about the XT1056?
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I'm really not sure what you are asking... "Yo what about the XT1056"???
The XT1056 is SIM-Locked to Sprint. If you are a current Sprint customer, and meet certain criteria, sprint will "OTA-Unlock" your XT1056 for international use ONLY. XT1056 cannot be used domestically on any U.S. GSM carrier, even with "OTA-Unlock". Additionally, with the XT1056 you cannot "buy" a SIM-Unlock code from an online merchant. The ONLY way to unlock is through Sprint, and only if you are a current customer and meet other criteria, and even then, it's international GSM use only.
Your phone is brand new, and it was free. See what you can get on swappa for it, and pick up a mint-ish XT1053. No point in paying money to return your phone in my opinion. I was only out another $80 or so doing just that, but I got a bootloader unlock and twice the storage space!
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That Ain't Falco!!! said:
Your phone is brand new, and it was free. See what you can get on swappa for it, and pick up a mint-ish XT1053. No point in paying money to return your phone in my opinion. I was only out another $80 or so doing just that, but I got a bootloader unlock and twice the storage space!
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Yeah, that's an incredibly smart route to take. Unfortunately, I'm leaving the states too soon to do any deals on swappa. Pie root and Xposed Framework is good enough for the time being I suppose.
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