I went to Verizon store the other day to check out MotoX and in settings I saw GSM / HSPA and CDMA / LTE.
does it mean that I can use phone from/on any carried?
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yes on the global usage... but the phone is Sim locked. you'll need to get Verizon to unlock the phone for you for outside US use .
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yes on the global usage... but the phone is Sim locked. you'll need to get Verizon to unlock the phone for you for outside US use .
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is there additional cost for that? can I do it right away?
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is there additional cost for that? can I do it right away?
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sorry let me rephrase that. you can use the phone overseas immediately.... granting that you're using the Verizon service internationally..... however if you want to use a localized Sim card.... then you need to have your phone unlocked. luckily for you..... Verizon has it in their contract that you can unlock your phone for free. 1 unlock per phone number per account. do a Google search on that and call their customer service. they'll walk you through the steps.
I did it last year when I took my iPhone to Beijing for work and wanted to use a local Sim card instead of racking up international costs...
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sorry let me rephrase that. you can use the phone overseas immediately.... granting that you're using the Verizon service internationally..... however if you want to use a localized Sim card.... then you need to have your phone unlocked. luckily for you..... Verizon has it in their contract that you can unlock your phone for free. 1 unlock per phone number per account. do a Google search on that and call their customer service. they'll walk you through the steps.
I did it last year when I took my iPhone to Beijing for work and wanted to use a local Sim card instead of racking up international costs...
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I'm on unlimited data plan and don't really want to give it up, so looks like for that I'm going to have to buy a phone for a FULL price (( (so no contract for me), I never had "Global phone" but I think it'd be awesome to unlock this phone to the extend where I'd be able to use it overseas with their local SIM card so I don't have to pay some crazy amount of money to hungry Verizon ;p
VZW hasn't sold locked phones in over a year. I can't speak to the X specifically, but the new Droids are virtually identical and my Maxx is getting T-Mobile 1900 MHz 4G right now. I'm not sure if or how well it'll work with some carriers (US Cellular and Sprint, for example) based on their unique spectrum use, but if you're going to AT&T or T-Mobile it should work fine. Do some more research and ask whichever carrier you're switching to; T-Mobile helped me with setting up their APN manually, as my Maxx didn't detect the settings automatically.
Nobody seems to have told Verizon's tech support that the new phones are wide open, so they'll still tell you that any 4G phone they sell is internationally unlocked but "incompatible" with US GSM carriers. That's what they did with phones like the Droid RAZR, RAZR HD, and Galaxy S3: in the firmware which manages APNs, any network with a US country ID would be rejected as "unknown," so you'd typically get voice and SMS but no data.
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Hey,
if I buy the phone at full retail price without contract, is it then locked for sim cards as well? I cant find this information anywhere.
I'm thinking about buying it and take it home to europa. Thats why im asking.
Thanks
It might be, considering it's on Verizon, but I'm not sure if it'd even work in Europe. It is, primarily, on Verizon's CDMA bands and presumably the SIM is only for roaming usage, I'm not really sure if it would work to just buy it in the US and take it back home.
You can buy the overseas equivalent, which is the Milestone 3 and should be available(if not now, then soon). The Milestone, unless I'm mistaken, is GSM primarily.
If I have undesrtood correctly, Motorola Droid 3 works on European WCDMA networks. They advertise phone like "3G works more than 125 countries".
I have same problem. I want Droid 3. I have heard only one comment about Droid 3 Europe edition. It says that Milestone 3 comes to Europe in Q3 or Q4. News also say that it will not arrive to UK.
Only problem on Verizon model is hotspot restrictions and contract needed. I don't want pay 30$ for 2GB, because unlimited data costs 15$, in Finland..
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I thought the one for 460$ is "contract free" ? Or what does full retail price means?
It might be, considering it's on Verizon, but I'm not sure if it'd even work in Europe.
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At droidforums.net guys want to take it to the uk, sim already insert.
It is defenetly working, my question is now, do i get it without contract?
The thing about waiting and buying it when it gets released at europa is no point, because when i buy it now for 460$ in the us, it means 340€ (if you now a Stewardess you do not even pay taxes and shipping). When it gets released here it might be around 450€, normally they change it 1:1.
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I thought the one for 460$ is "contract free" ? Or what does full retail price means?
At droidforums.net guys want to take it to the uk, sim already insert.
It is defenetly working, my question is now, do i get it without contract?
The thing about waiting and buying it when it gets released at europa is no point, because when i buy it now for 460$ in the us, it means 340€ (if you now a Stewardess you do not even pay taxes and shipping). When it gets released here it might be around 450€, normally they change it 1:1.
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Verizon wants to keep Droid 3. Still, if you buy it with cash, you must take Verizon to Operator.
I'm not sure, will BestBuy require Verizon use, because they are Verizon branded.
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b patience, it is a global phone like D2G
u need to unlock it via VZ
A unlock code ebay seller told me they get codes for the droid 3 as well.
He has over 6000 evaluations, i'll see in a few weeks.
I have always watched Droids Google and Verizon marks, and I like them(as stupid as it sounds) and if models come to eBay or somewhere, I'll buy it.
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A unlock code ebay seller told me they get codes for the droid 3 as well.
He has over 6000 evaluations, i'll see in a few weeks.
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Can you tell the seller ID?
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Hey,
if I buy the phone at full retail price without contract, is it then locked for sim cards as well? I cant find this information anywhere.
I'm thinking about buying it and take it home to europa. Thats why im asking.
Thanks
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Yes, it is SIM locked even if you buy it at full retail price without a contract. If you're a Verizon customer and meet a handful of qualifications, Verizon will unlock the SIM free of charge. Beyond that, the only way to get it unlocked is to wait until some online vendors get codes for it. Once it's unlocked, it should work on pretty much any GSM network outside of the U.S.
Can D3 and activate on pageplus?? and where can i get the phone with no contract?
i think verizon offers $459 and amazon offers $549~ but how can i buy the phone with $459 price?
and can i return it if i cant get activated on pageplus
You need a verizon account to purchase the phone, or find a friend that does. The d3 should work on pageplus as its not a new 4glte device that requires a sim to activate, uses an old school *228 activation
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what does that mean??
If I buy the phone from Amazon wireless will it be unlocked, that is, can it work anywhere in the world on any GSM provider's SIM?
A proper answer would be much appreciated.
I seriously wanna buy this phone and I am willing to pay the $550 price at Amazon wireless, if and only if, the phone is unlocked.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the D3 isn't a GSM phone. I'm pretty sure its only a global cdma
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the D3 isn't a GSM phone. I'm pretty sure its only a global cdma
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The Droid 3 is a GSM and CDMA handset, it is mentioned in the verizon manual for this handset that a sim card can be inserted, currently it is suspected however that this is sim locked.
http://cache.vzw.com/multimedia/mim/mot_droid3/droid3.pdf
Go to the Global Phone section in this PDF and it is mentioned
It is a global phone that supports GSM networks. Arguing over it won't help us much. What will help is an answer to which version of the phone is unlocked for all GSM networks.
Its is a GSM global phone, includes a Verizon SIM that is locked. Verizon customers in good standing can get the phone unlocked with a call to Verizon Global support.
JT
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Hmmm....yes, but the question here is whether the phones with no contract are also SIM locked or not.
hi guys, can anyone answer my question
So, here's the response I got from the Amazonwireless guys:
{I'm very sorry but the replacement phones (phone only no service) on Amazonwireless are locked to the carriers. You would need to find an unlocked phone.
There are basically two types of unlocked phones. CDMA Unlocked and GSM Unlocked.
An Unlocked CDMA phone will basically work with carriers like Verizon, Alltel, and Sprint. Unlocked GSM phones work with carriers such as AT&T and T-Mobile.
Unlocked cell phones are designed to work with any carrier that uses SIM cards. Some advanced features may not work depending on the carrier you are using. I would recommend contacting the carrier you are going to be using to ask if the phone you are interested in will work with their network, and if there are any features that you would not be able to use.
If you would like to shop for an unlocked cell phone please visit Amazon.com using the link below
www(dot)amazon(dot)com/cellphones
I hope this information helps. We look forward to seeing you again soon.}
Thomaslau it means that this phone still needs to be activated using *228 which pageplus accepts. 4gLTE phones do not use *228, they use a sim card to activate
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Thomaslau it means that this phone still needs to be activated using *228 which pageplus accepts. 4gLTE phones do not use *228, they use a sim card to activate
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so it will works???
What my understanding is with CDMA is that it's ALWAYS unlocked. The problem lies with carriers not allowing foreign ECID/IMEI's on their network database which allows the phones to work.
Should work flawless
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ok, now i got my droid 3, but i struck at the activation menu, the one with the android robot. what should i do to activate my phone on pageplus?? do i need to activate my phone on verizon then pageplus?
I thought with pageplus you call them, give them the esn from the back of the phone, starts with a000000, then dial *228 when they tell you to
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thx, i will try it
I'm heading to Europe in a week. I plan on calling verizon and using their global data plan ($25/100mb) but I would also like the option of swapping a different sim card in once I get over there if I find I'm going to use a lot more data than what Verizon offers for the price.
If I call Verizon and have them unlock my phone, will I still be able to use their global plans?
Yeah or you could get an unlock code from unlock4moto.com. They work well.
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Yeah or you could get an unlock code from unlock4moto.com. They work well.
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From what I've read, I should be able to get it unlocked for free since I've been on vzw for over 10 months and have never asked for an unlock. My only concern is still having the option to use Verizon for global access while also having the ability to pop in another sim card from wherever I end up in Europe and use that instead of paying the VZW global premium charges.
I think that you should be able to swap out the sim cards, just make sure they activate the Verizon one first.
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cellunlocker.net is good or bad?
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I used cellunlockerpro for Versizon D3. Worked like a charm.
Are you wanting to unlock for international use? Are you traveling and want to use that to get a free unlock for when you return state side?
Stateside the different broadcast frequencies make it hard to have an unlocked verizon fone be very useful. I would have to have you refer to others for international unlocking options. I know the sim in my droid 3 shows vodafone for europe so I am guessing they use the same broadcast frequencies. Other than their system I don't know.
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I'm heading to Europe in a week. I plan on calling verizon and using their global data plan ($25/100mb) but I would also like the option of swapping a different sim card in once I get over there if I find I'm going to use a lot more data than what Verizon offers for the price.
If I call Verizon and have them unlock my phone, will I still be able to use their global plans?
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yes U will, Verizon unlock is for global (non-US SIM card). so U can use local service
If you're asking if you can still use verizon service after unlock, then the answer is yes. Unlocking just means you can use services other than verizon. If you want to stick with them, that's perfectly OK.
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Hi guys I've just bought a US Cellular Moto X from eBay and I plan to use it here in Australia. I'm not very familiar with CDMA phones as all the networks here in Australia are GSM so I don't know the limitations of CDMA for overseas use. I've heard that an unlocked CDMA phone can be use with a sim card overseas but also heard that the Sprint Moto X can only be unlocked OTA or by flashing another ROM.
So my question is: 'Is there a way to unlock the US Cellular Moto X from overseas for overseas use with a sim card? And also is the boatloader already unlocked or do I have to unlock it myself like the verizon version?
Thanks in advanced
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I'd return it if you can. AFAIK, the sim card slot on US cellular phones is only for their 4g LTE data and is not compatible with gsm networks. I could be wrong on that though.
The unlocked(t-mobile), gsm developer edition, or at&t would be best for gsm networks. Just know that you would probably need to buy a sim unlock code for the at&t model.
If you're looking at unlocking the bootloader, then go with the unlocked or developer model. If you're worried about warranty, get the developer edition since you can unlock the bootloader and you don't void your warranty if you fubar the phone.
Just my two cents.
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I'd return it if you can. AFAIK, the sim card slot on US cellular phones is only for their 4g LTE data and is not compatible with gsm networks. I could be wrong on that though.
The unlocked(t-mobile), gsm developer edition, or at&t would be best for gsm networks. Just know that you would probably need to buy a sim unlock code for the at&t model.
If you're looking at unlocking the bootloader, then go with the unlocked or developer model. If you're worried about warranty, get the developer edition since you can unlock the bootloader and you don't void your warranty if you fubar the phone.
Just my two cents.
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Oh okay, because I bought it primarily to use as a kind of iPod replacement. Just to use it primarily for music and stuff because I already have the note 3 as my main phone. I was really wanting to get a T-mobile one but ended getting a really good deal for this one (saved around $150)
It would have been good to be able to use the Moto X as a backup phone or secondary device for when I go overseas or camping or something like that. But I'm not too worried about it, it would have just been nice to know I had the option. And as far as warranty - the phone has a bad ESN so I assume that the warranty is no longer in place? I'm not very familiar with the whole ESN thing either.
So is the boatloader locked on the US Cellular? And also would I be able to receive OTA updates with the bad ESN and all? Sorry for all the questions - I just have no clue on how network providers do their thing in America.
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Why did you buy a most likely stolen/blacklisted phone???????
and yes, it will still receive updates.
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Why did you buy a most likely stolen/blacklisted phone???????
and yes, it will still receive updates.
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Oh okay, that's good to hear.
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. The phone was pretty much brand new with everything so I don't he stole it unless he ran off without paying over the counter. He seemed like an honest person but I wouldn't know really. I just bought it because I sold my iPod and wanted an android replacement for it. Again I do apologise if I offended you in any way but I appreciate you answering my question.
Thanks
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Yes, you can unlock the bootloader on the US Cellular model.
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Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?
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Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?
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No. Well you could but version probably won't authorize devices if the imei is not in their database.
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No
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Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.
Probly not. But wait and see.
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Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.
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People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.
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People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.
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We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.
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We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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No all nexus are Sim unlocked.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls
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It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls
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Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.
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Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.
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ExCtly. People are getting confused because of the pamphlets that have to logos but they are google play review units. They were probably google units going to Tmobile that had those pamphlets and were used as review units. That DOESNT mean they came from Tmobile which is a different thing. Plus you also have to consider that the persons Verizon Sim car is already provisioned. The real test is activating new new service with a new sim card.
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Yes, you guys have some valid points. I already have an activated sim and all I would need to do is pop mine in to a T-mobile phone to see if it works.
But speaking to the last post, it would be interesting to see if a new verizon sim would work with a t-mobile bought phone.
There are only 2 versions. ..... international and north American. .....not a t mobile sprint vzw etc they are the same
If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.
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If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.
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Uh no. That's not how it works.
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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This exactly.
Fact is if you want to use a Nexus 6 on VZW your best bet is to buy from Play Store, Amazon, Motorola Direct, Verizon upon release, etc but NOT from other carriers.
Also T-Mobile has confirmed that they will turn away anyone hoping to buy off contract at any of their stores on launch day. They want to give current customers and new service customers the first go at the device sale before expanding sales to a whole after the hype dies down on their customer end.
I was lucky enough to get an order in today on Motorola's site, but after watching the latest Droid-Life show I was left with a concern. Apparently we won't be able to use simultaneous voice and data. So say for example I'm on a call and want to look something up, unless I'm connected to a WiFi network I won't be able to do that. This is the case with the 2014 Moto X and the just released Droid Turbo. Those phones though are (according to Verizon) going to get an update before the years end to allow for VoLTE, which will fix this problem. The problem I see is that since this isn't a "Verizon" phone per say, how are we going to get that update? Are we going to be stuck not being able to use simultaneous voice and data? For once I thought we finally had a great Nexus phone on Verizon and now this news reminds me of why we haven't had a Nexus phone after the Galaxy Nexus.
I have been mainly using it with T-Mobile but have popped in a Verizon sim and got LTE service. Made a couple of calls, used the internet.