Moto X and Pebble - Moto X Q&A

I am thinking about getting one of the Pebble Watches and i was curious if anybody here has one, or knows somebody with one. I'm concerned that the Bluetooth connection is going to kill the battery life on my X. Anybody with experience using these two devices together and what has been your experience with battery life.

ascotinmpls said:
I am thinking about getting one of the Pebble Watches and i was curious if anybody here has one, or knows somebody with one. I'm concerned that the Bluetooth connection is going to kill the battery life on my X. Anybody with experience using these two devices together and what has been your experience with battery life.
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Yup, I have both. Battery drain is going to be dependant on how many notifications you get a day. That being said, I would be considered an average user I would say, with work and personal email addresses, txt and BBM. I get about 200 notifications a day and the battery drain is about 8 - 10% higher than normal.
I could not get through a full day on a charge. I typically charge it up during lunch hour or so, and can make it to about 10 PM.

ascotinmpls said:
I am thinking about getting one of the Pebble Watches and i was curious if anybody here has one, or knows somebody with one. I'm concerned that the Bluetooth connection is going to kill the battery life on my X. Anybody with experience using these two devices together and what has been your experience with battery life.
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I have both and really notice very little additional drain on my phone. I can go a full day without recharging and generally end up with about 30% left around 10pm. I would consider my use around average with 1.5 on screen hours by the end of the day. I am running a custom ROM though that I think has the base kernel on it though.
I would strongly suggest getting a Pebble. If I was in the market for getting one now, I would spring for one of the new metal ones.

I also have both and haven't noticed any noticeable drain on battery life. The Pebble is fantastic, by the way.

how much of battery drain do you get on the pebble watch itself per day. I was just wondering because I relly like the look of the new pebble steel ad I am considering getting one when the prices get reduced some.
Thanks

htcone67 said:
how much of battery drain do you get on the pebble watch itself per day. I was just wondering because I relly like the look of the new pebble steel ad I am considering getting one when the prices get reduced some.
Thanks
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I can go about a week before I need to charge my Pebble. The battery life can float a day in either direction based on how many notifications I get. It is also dependent on how often I flick my wrist to engage the back light (one of my favorite features actually). You get a low battery notification on the watch, no percentages or anything though, that tells you to charge in the next 24 hours. I find the battery life perfectly acceptable especially compared to the Samsung Gear watch that has to be charged daily.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I bought one at Best Buy on Friday night. So far, so good. I'm seeing probably about a 20% drain. It's 3pm and my phone has been off power since about 7am and i have 53% left. My usage today on my phone, outside of Pebble has only been sending a handful of text messages.
Any suggestions on Pebble apps or watch faces?

ascotinmpls said:
Thanks for the feedback guys. I bought one at Best Buy on Friday night. So far, so good. I'm seeing probably about a 20% drain. It's 3pm and my phone has been off power since about 7am and i have 53% left. My usage today on my phone, outside of Pebble has only been sending a handful of text messages.
Any suggestions on Pebble apps or watch faces?
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I use Glance, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.finebyte.pebbleglance , for my watch face. It's not the most elegant but it gives me all the data I want in the format I like. I also implement Notifier, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dattasmoon.pebble.plugin&hl=en, for non-basic notifications. There's a ton of development out there though.

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2150mAh + Extended Door

EDIT: It's here!
http://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=819
It appears to be OEM, and is gonna be much cheaper than the crap out now.
My main issue, what cases are gonna fit around this nicely?
I don't want it to be a fatso.. Then theres also the issue of heat, considering the larger battery and a case on top.
Thoughts?
I see at the bottom of the page they are suggesting to buy the brackettron car mount.
Does that mean the official car dock won't fit with this higher back and battery?
I really want the bigger battery, seems i'll have to get a new dock too.
Correct, the phone will be too big to fit the official car dock with a extended battery on it.
What I recommend is buying the battery and holding off on the car dock. Is the battery gonna make THAT much of a difference? Really?
It comes out on July the 6th... your post says June... just fyi
They better make a rubberized case for that thing.
Thanks for the info, but think I'll wait for the Seidio 3500mAh
Changed the month, my mistake.
jlss said:
Thanks for the info, but think I'll wait for the Seidio 3500mAh
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After reading the thorough comparisons of OEM and aftermarket batteries in the N1 forum (by user dougie i believe?)
I thought it would be a better idea to wait for an HTC extended battery.
Save money, and guaranteed quality.
I haven't tried seidio products so I can't say they are bad, but i'd trust HTC over them anyday.
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Changed the month, my mistake.
After reading the thorough comparisons of OEM and aftermarket batteries in the N1 forum (by user dougie i believe?)
I thought it would be a better idea to wait for an HTC extended battery.
Save money, and guaranteed quality.
I haven't tried seidio products so I can't say they are bad, but i'd trust HTC over them anyday.
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I've used their cases and extended cap batts on BlackBerries and, now, on my DINC. Probably had 6 extended caps on BlackBerrys, and their holsters are the only ones I'll use - nothing but the best quality and design.
As for the extended cap batts, they perform the way I'd expect them to. I've had not difficulties with them, nor have I experienced anything that would keep me from continuing to buy their product in the future. The only "downside" is that yes, they tend to be on the pricier side but, again, worth it. Just my opinion and experience though.
i oredered the verizon 2150 battery wounder if anyone will make cases for this monster of a battery. currently i have body glove case would like another that will work with this battery
Now you tell me about the new 3500 Mah battery.
Just got the 2150 mah from Verizon. Not able to make it through a day. So yes, I am a heavy user. I have the shut down apps. done and the check for 7 different email set to much longer intervals. Video is where the draw back begins. I am going to try and return the 2150 battery. I don't mind opting for the bigger battery if it gets me through the day.
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i oredered the verizon 2150 battery wounder if anyone will make cases for this monster of a battery. currently i have body glove case would like another that will work with this battery
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you have to modify the case like in another post here look for it youll see.
I already have this battery it 4 days now just a little bulky on the back but its easily lasting me 2 days. Last charge was @ 7:30am on the 17th its now 11:05am on the 18th and i have 54% battery still and i noticed while i was sleeping that wifi was left on
Jexy said:
Just got the 2150 mah from Verizon. Not able to make it through a day. So yes, I am a heavy user. I have the shut down apps. done and the check for 7 different email set to much longer intervals. Video is where the draw back begins. I am going to try and return the 2150 battery. I don't mind opting for the bigger battery if it gets me through the day.
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Like with any battery, you need to condition it first. It needs to go through 3 or so full battery cycles (completely charged to completely dead) to get to its full potential. If you did not do this, then you are not getting accurate results. I received this battery Monday, and its just now getting to its full potential. I've gone 2 full days without charging on normal use and one time I just laid it all out turning bluetooth on, GPS, leaving wifi tether on (even though I wasn't always using it), had all my accounts syncing every hour, and left an irc chat open in the background and still got well over a day of use.
Lithium ion batteries don't need to be cycled this will do nothing for battery life. Nickle cadmium on the other hand does need cycling.
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junjlo said:
Lithium ion batteries don't need to be cycled this will do nothing for battery life. Nickle cadmium on the other hand does need cycling.
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Dozens of members and thread posts would disagree. And mine has increased every cycle since I've got it.
I don't know about conditioning.
My first charge I got over 28 hours out of it till 14% warning came on. Then 5 more hours till it came down to 10% battery left.
GPS, WiFi always on. and over 5 hours of talk time with that first charge. Something's wrong with your situation. Check all apps.
PS. I have Task Killer, but it ONLY runs when I tell it to kill apps manually. And I manually select the app to kill each time. (easier than going into settings>applications>yada yada). ATK does not run on its own on my phone.
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2nd charge on my battery.
GPS, WiFi always on
Bluetooth Off
About 1.5 hours of total talk time today.
13:01 uptime
2:49 awake time
Voice Calls 27%
Cell Standby 21%
Phone Idle 19%
Wi-Fi 13%
Android System 12%
Dialer 4%
Display 4%
67% battery left
I'm on track to gettig another 28 hours of phone being "on" till next charge, if not more.
Well just ordered one since my 1750 is not holding up like when I first got it...
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Ordered the 3500 Mah today and found out that Verizon will take the 2150 back as long as it is within the 30 days. I am trying the cycling and what I see happening is that the longer I own the phone the less I am looking at every item and spending time looking for Apps. This in turn means the screen is on less time and so the battery life is becoming longer.
I am pretty impressed with the 2150. After 36 hours .. comprised of slightly above moderate usage during the day time.. I got about 21% left. GPS and Bluetooth were always left on.. used navigation for about 30 mins a day.
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Dozens of members and thread posts would disagree. And mine has increased every cycle since I've got it.
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Mkk members may disagree but it is hard to disagree with facts which in this case full discharge and recharge is considered a placebo effect. Due to the fact that "lithium-ion is memory-free in terms of performance deterioration but many batteries have fuel gauges." Aka "digital memory" what this does is reports to your phone how much estimated charge you have left.
for more information:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
if you do find anything contradictory to this i would be interested in reading so shoot me a pm.
Thanks!!

1800 mAh Battery (Same Door!)

Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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Anything called MUGEN POWER makes me question it.... same stuff is out there for laptops which are usually junk
Myhigh said:
Anything called MUGEN POWER makes me question it.... same stuff is out there for laptops which are usually junk
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That was my first thought... I've seen a researching claiming that Mugen had been passing off batteries with far higher mAH than what they actually claim (as a matter of fact, they stated in many cases, their high mAH batteries were worse than stock).
If anyone goes for this, I'd be curious to see a live study on it.
mugen power? they make honda parts
Dang, was looking for a better or 2nd battery for mine - guess I'll keep looking
Anybody know if the Revolution's battery bay is the same as any of LG's other current models?
Seidio has one of their slightly-denser batteries available with compatibility listed as "LG Thrill 4G/Optimus 3D/LG G2X/Optimus 2X." Capacity on it is 1750.
I obviously can't link to it yet, but I imagine people can figure this out: seidioonline_com/product-p/basi17lgthr.htm
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Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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They have a 99.9% positive feedback rating. I'll pick one up when I get paid on the 15th and see how it does.
AplMik24 said:
Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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I think you should go to their official facebook page and check tons of reviews that they post there:
http://facebook.com/mugenpowerbatteries
I use 3300mAh on my Nexus S and I'm happy because the phone lives for 1.5-2 days. Mugen guyes definitely suffer from tons of fakes produced in China.
I'd rather buy 2 oem ones for $20. They're like $11 on ebay. $43 for a battery with 300 more mah? Doesn't sound like the best the best spend of cash personally
I just picked one up. I've been through 2 cycles so far and I'm getting slightly better battery life. The packaging says to go through 3-5 cycles before I'm going to see an increase. I'm going to start carrying 2 batteries as I usually only get about 8-10 hours of battery life and that just doesn't work for me as I use this phone for work and it is not always near a charger. I'll let everyone know as I have more use with it.
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I just picked one up. I've been through 2 cycles so far and I'm getting slightly better battery life. The packaging says to go through 3-5 cycles before I'm going to see an increase. I'm going to start carrying 2 batteries as I usually only get about 8-10 hours of battery life and that just doesn't work for me as I use this phone for work and it is not always near a charger. I'll let everyone know as I have more use with it.
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Thanks, please keep us posted. I'm generally leery of aftermarket batteries since they usually don't work as advertised or worse yet, leak or explode. But if this works well i'd welcome the extra battery life.
x2 dude thanks for checking this out, ill be watching
I wouldn't buy any battery unless its from stock or Seido. I had a non-stock battery that was from ebay. Brand New. It was fried in a week.
so how is the battery life now that you have had it for a while? is the 1800 mah worth it?
Jasbo said:
so how is the battery life now that you have had it for a while? is the 1800 mah worth it?
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So, I've had the battery about 2 weeks now. Probably been through about 10-12 cycles (I like to full kill my battery before charging). I'm seeing an increase in battery life, not exceptionally significant, but an increase. I would say about 2-3 extra hours with normal use and a much better idle drain (approx 5-7% per hour)
I would say that it was definitely worth the cost. I still have my other battery and a wall charger for it because when I'm traveling, I will need two batteries for sure (late nights and such). BTW, I'm running Re-Homed with Launcher Pro. I do fair amount of texting, calling, surfing. I have all processes automated on the data side with 2 e-mails being pushed, Facebook, and Twitter. I'm a relatively heavy user of date, almost 2gig per month.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
EDIT: Okay, so I was out of town this weekend and I'm thinking I am going to need to get a different phone. Even with the battery, I'm still disappointed with the battery life. If I have a long day and night, my phone has no chance to make it. Really sucks! Not sure what I am going to do, but this won't work. I think the 4g just kills the battery.
ok that sounds good to me... Thanks for doing the trial on this, and I would agree it seems worth the money.. 2 or 3 hours at the end of the day is definitely worth it.
dmtaub said:
So, I've had the battery about 2 weeks now. Probably been through about 10-12 cycles (I like to full kill my battery before charging). I'm seeing an increase in battery life, not exceptionally significant, but an increase. I would say about 2-3 extra hours with normal use and a much better idle drain (approx 5-7% per hour)
I would say that it was definitely worth the cost. I still have my other battery and a wall charger for it because when I'm traveling, I will need two batteries for sure (late nights and such). BTW, I'm running Re-Homed with Launcher Pro. I do fair amount of texting, calling, surfing. I have all processes automated on the data side with 2 e-mails being pushed, Facebook, and Twitter. I'm a relatively heavy user of date, almost 2gig per month.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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I did 10 GB in two days last week...Netflix anyone know about cases that support the extended battery?
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Android Power said:
I did 10 GB in two days last week...Netflix anyone know about cases that support the extended battery?
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You're there reason we have tiered data plans
Don't know about cases.
dmtaub said:
You're there reason we have tiered data plans
Don't know about cases.
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You're not grandfathered in to unlimited data? Sucks to be you! LOL j/k.
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You're not grandfathered in to unlimited data? Sucks to be you! LOL j/k.
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I had to just recently switch due to a job change. Got what they had.

I simply can not get good battery life with this phone!

I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
The HTC one isn't the best phone when it comes to standby time but still,I find battery life to be pretty good, super easy to get through a work day. Maybe you have an app that is running in the background and draining your battery. Install betterbatterystats and try monitoring your apps. That's all I can think of. Also take a look at the battery stats thread and see if folks can help you there.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
peterg21 said:
As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
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Wow thanks. I was starting to wonder what crazy app I downloaded. Forgot I was messing with settings. Lo and behold that option was checked. I didn't have it checked when ibfirst got this phone and had awesome batt life.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage.
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Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
Edit:Just got an update for Whatsapp (and Facebook and Skype all at once), let's hope it fixes the battery drain.....
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
godutch said:
Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
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Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
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Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
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I only undervolted by 50mV in Aroma. Maybe I should set it back at standard?
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tiny4579 said:
Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
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I bought a packet inspector and found it causes a lot of wake ups, like every minute or so....
Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
I whatsapp and check Twitter news apps sometime a game.
And i can do easy 12 hours max 17 with this usage .
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I was just thinking of the good battery performance I've been getting from the handset so far funnily enough.
I think it's been very good after only a couple of days with it.
Been using it moderately to heavy and it's held up pretty well. Over 13 hours now. Maybe it's certain apps u are using that's giving u problems with high drainage.
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Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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What are your sync values set at for all your accounts...anything constantly updating will drain battery quickly
25% battery used for 1hr screen on time and 11hrs of standby
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I got mine FIXED !
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
salgrign said:
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I know that but mine was like 48 C at the peak when its hot which is very uncomfortable to hold that's why I said overheat. Anyway now its fixed and I don't have any complaints.
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Also be sure to not use screen lock sounds or input sounds... the lock sound is the worst. I think it causes a wakelock bug that has been on Android since 4.0
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Nexus 6 Battery - average or below average?

Today I took my phone off charge at 3.30pm, I'm on 50% with adaptive brightness off. My SOT is 2hrs 10mins, during which I've used WhatsApp, texted, used Chrome, played some music and YouTube videos, and played Temple Run for 20mins. I also have Facebook running, but I haven't used it. It's 7.45pm now, and my phone is at 51% with an estimated time of 5hrs remaining.
So that's 3.5hrs off charge, with about 2hrs SOT time, and I'm on 51%.
Does this sound average for the Nexus 6 or is my battery draining more so than normal?
That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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I have a super hard time believing that you had 10 hours of heavy use or we think heavy use are two different things.
To OP check out the battery life thread in general, could be a variety of rogue apps that are draining in background. If you don't turn things off I'm not surprised if you get around 4.5 hours of SOT
Is there a way to tell how many hours since charge? I just see that I have 12 hrs left
Yes, that is low in my opinion. On similar usage I typically get 6+ SOT 100% to 15%. Probably 75% WiFi, 25% LTE. Auto brightness.
This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
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This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
This question makes no sense, as every battery thread. Battery is subjective, there is no such thing as "average" battery life. It all depends on how you use your phone and how your phone is set up. Everybody has their own kind of apps, setups, carriers.
The better signal strength you have in terms of carrier cellular data, the better battery you'll have.
Depending on what you do on your phone determines battery life. Yeah you can have 6+ hours SOT, but if you play games or watch videos then your battery life will be different from everybody else. Does that mean you have "poor" battery life? No, you just put your phone to more heavy tasks that consumed more battery life.
The way I see battery life, if I was able to end the day without my phone going down to 0% then it did its job. If I have problems with battery life, I'm only 15 minutes away from a quick Turbo Charge up to ~60% or get a portable charger if you don't have access to a wall outlet.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
zingxao said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
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Sounds about right. 9% in half an hour would give you 5 hrs SOT, and thats about average.
If you were doing Franko kernel with volmer tweaks that would be low. They do a lot to slow processor down and reduce capability to save battery, but you probably wouldn't be able to tell except for the occasional lag while scrolling a web page.
I get about 3.5-4 hours SOT. Seems fine to me. I don't do anything whatsoever to save battery. I keep the screen brightness how I like it.
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Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
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Here is mine so far today. The reboot is from when I updated Franco kernel to r4. I used google play music at the gym and Bluetooth in my car driving to and from the gym and store. Battery life can be as good as you want it to be.
Edit: also I was only on WiFi for 40 minutes and LTE the rest of the time

Poor Battery Life

I received my Watch 3 last week. So far I like the watch but it's battery life is horrid! My original Samsung Watch would run 4 to 5 days between charges. The Watch 3 gets, maybe 2.5 days between charges. Anyone else notice this drop in run time??
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I received my Watch 3 last week. So far I like the watch but it's battery life is horrid! My original Samsung Watch would run 4 to 5 days between charges. The Watch 3 gets, maybe 2.5 days between charges. Anyone else notice this drop in run time??
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I'm not impressed by the battery myself so far compared to the GW1. I got the 45mm (bluetooth). Charged it last night. Wore it to bed, this morning it had already dropped 7% just sleeping. Now its 11am and the battery is at 76% and I haven't even been playing with the watch. App says it wil llast 1 day 18 hrs, but based off the usage already I don't believe that.
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I'm not impressed by the battery myself so far compared to the GW1. I got the 45mm (bluetooth). Charged it last night. Wore it to bed, this morning it had already dropped 7% just sleeping. Now its 11am and the battery is at 76% and I haven't even been playing with the watch. App says it wil llast 1 day 18 hrs, but based off the usage already I don't believe that.
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Is it tracking your heartbeat or sleep ?
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Well, there are more sensors and a smaller battery for starters.
But I think the default settings will be checking your heartbeat regularly, working out if you are...working out, and if you sleep wearing it the sensors will be working through the night. Go into the health settings (both phone and watch) and check what you have enabled. You might be surprised.
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The GW3 - 45mm has a smaller battery (340mAh) than the GW - 46mm (472mAh).
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Bluetooth / wifi version.
I have 45mm LTE version, but not activated and using it on wifi/bluetooth. I disable most of the notifications from my phone - I have the watch mainly to be a watch and for fitness/health. My average burn, with AOD, is between 3-4% an hour. Brightness set to 4 with auto low light brightness.
Just found the continuous monitoring (heart & stress) feature. I'll play around with that to see how it goes.
The bigger downside, especially if battery life is an issue for you, is this think takes 2.5 hours to charge fully. That is SLOW for a battery this size. So 30 minutes on the charger while you shower only gets you like 20%.
I've found that music has used 8% of battery, I don't even use the music app, I don't think it can be removed, so what can I do?
Haha... I was actually thinking the battery was much better than I expected! Mind you, I'm coming from Android Wear, so that might explain it.... previously had a Tag Connected Modular 45 and for the first week ( until the first update ) I'd get about 10 hours from a full charge
As has been said, smaller battery and more sensors. It's a pain ( especially if you want to use sleep tracking ) but I've taken to just topping it up whenever I'm sitting watching TV or whatever - so plenty of short bursts of charge rather than waiting for it to run down. A few Qi chargers dotted around the place helps.
I agonised over the decision to buy this over the Garmin Fenix 6 Pro for quite a while - I love the idea of a trans-reflective display on a watch and wish there were more of them, and the battery life is So much better. The fact is though there's no perfect option currently in the smartwatch arena, GW3 has best features and arguably the smoothesr experience but only adequate battery, awful Bixby, and lack of Google stuff like maps ( which I found really useful for walking around cities, Here WeGo is a poor substitute IMHO. ) Garmin have better battery life but not as nice to look at ( again IMHO ) and even worse ecosystem, Android Wear has the best ecosystem and assistant with many options to choose from, but generally rubbish battery life and in my experience laggy/glitchy/buggy software. Apple watch isn't really an option for Android users, though I dislike square watches generally anyway and dislike Apple almost as much :laugh:
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Haha... I was actually thinking the battery was much better than I expected! Mind you, I'm coming from Android Wear, so that might explain it.... previously had a Tag Connected Modular 45 and for the first week ( until the first update ) I'd get about 10 hours from a full charge
As has been said, smaller battery and more sensors. It's a pain ( especially if you want to use sleep tracking ) but I've taken to just topping it up whenever I'm sitting watching TV or whatever - so plenty of short bursts of charge rather than waiting for it to run down. A few Qi chargers dotted around the place helps.
I agonised over the decision to buy this over the Garmin Fenix 6 Pro for quite a while - I love the idea of a trans-reflective display on a watch and wish there were more of them, and the battery life is So much better. The fact is though there's no perfect option currently in the smartwatch arena, GW3 has best features and arguably the smoothesr experience but only adequate battery, awful Bixby, and lack of Google stuff like maps ( which I found really useful for walking around cities, Here WeGo is a poor substitute IMHO. ) Garmin have better battery life but not as nice to look at ( again IMHO ) and even worse ecosystem, Android Wear has the best ecosystem and assistant with many options to choose from, but generally rubbish battery life and in my experience laggy/glitchy/buggy software. Apple watch isn't really an option for Android users, though I dislike square watches generally anyway and dislike Apple almost as much :laugh:
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There are a lot of dilemmas in there mate! But I think what you chose in the end was the right choice. Tizen is a very reliable and optimised O/S and whilst there aren't billions of apps for it, who really cares? The one's you will use the most are either baked in or available 3rd party, and yep, Bixby is rubbish, I want to love it but I gave up. I do agree the Apple watch is an ugly square thing that looks like a fitness band, everyone wearing them so no individuality, the GW3 is classy and watch like! The battery isn't really that bad, will easily get you through a day or two and most of us charge overnight or a quick top up in the morning if sleep monitoring.
Enjoy!!
With blanaced settings you can easily get 2+ days of battery and more if you set the heart rate monitor to manual because heart rate will be used automatically during work out so I dont see a benefit of having it all the time or every 10 mins to measure my heart unless you have health issues and you need to track it, bixby is only useful to set a reminder, alarm or call someone (generally it wont recognize names properly so I use 'wife' for example instead of the name to avoid this issue) 'Hi bixby call wife' works good 'Hi bixby text wife' works fine too, Here wego i find it works better if you have the here we go phone app installed and everything you do from the phone it syncs back to the watch app.
compared to my active 2 watch the battery seems about the same for how i use it and sensors i have active. I get almost 2 days . when i'm on a normal routine i put my watch on the charger when i wake up to shower and get ready and ive never really noticed issues with not having the watch dead the next day and if i forgot to take it off i would still have battery for the day. im sure millage will vary depending on what your doing but still would expect a full day battery.
My expectations must be a lot lower , makes me wonder what amount of time are most expecting to get from a smart watch . I always thought getting about two days was great and as long as i got a full day into the next i was happy lol just my two cents
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...so I dont see a benefit of having it all the time or every 10 mins to measure my heart unless you have health issues and you need to track it..
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It's definitely helpful in sleep tracking to estimate the various stages of sleep. Agree constant monitoring is overkill (except in a workout), but every 10 minutes can be useful for tracking training progress and recovery.
From what I can tell, every 10 minutes doesn't drain battery much. I'm getting @ 3% drain per hour with that, and about half is my display.
I tend to think big battery drains (which I disable) are Bixby always listening, and any "gesture to wake" features. Haven't analyzed it, but my suspicion is "gesture to wake" uses more battery than AOD.
I use the watch for 5 days (SM-R845F) ...
-10% during 1 hour of use.
Off: WIFI, Buetooth, GPS
ON: 4G
No syncing.
I only use it as a watch!
What could be the problem? Is the clock bad?
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I set mine to "GoodNight" and it still tracks heart rate and sleep. Amazingly on this setting the battery usage is minimal (single digits) so there plenty of juice left in the am.
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apprentice said:
There are a lot of dilemmas in there mate! But I think what you chose in the end was the right choice. Tizen is a very reliable and optimised O/S and whilst there aren't billions of apps for it, who really cares? The one's you will use the most are either baked in or available 3rd party, and yep, Bixby is rubbish, I want to love it but I gave up. I do agree the Apple watch is an ugly square thing that looks like a fitness band, everyone wearing them so no individuality, the GW3 is classy and watch like! The battery isn't really that bad, will easily get you through a day or two and most of us charge overnight or a quick top up in the morning if sleep monitoring.
Enjoy!!
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I disabled Bixby on my Note 9 (which was not easy) and even harder to re-enable as at first I thought the disablement on the phone was preventing it from running on the watch. but I am happy now that i got Google Assistant to also work on my watch (except for alarms and reminders (for which you still need Bixby)
I think the battery life is poor especially if used actively during a run or cycling.
Batt life is not the best...

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