Who else here is on Republic Wireless? - Moto X Q&A

I'm curious how many of my fellow XDA members have the Moto X on Republic Wireless?
I've been on Republic Wireless for about 3 weeks now on the $10/month plan (talk and text on cell, data on wifi only) and so far it works great for my situation. My typical day is spent at the office on wifi and then at home on wifi. I actually think the wifi calling voice quality is better than the cell voice quality. I was hesitant to be on the sprint network, but so far coverage has been great. We'll see how it is when I travel. One thing I did discover today is that the google maps navigation works if you start on wifi and then leave wifi coverage, even with no data connection it will continue to work. I am happy about this because I thought the navigation was one thing I was giving up by running on the $10/month plan. I've also discovered that if you absolutely need a data connection when you are out and about you can often find a wifi hotspot at many restaurants, stores, etc which has been convenient.
I came from a Nexus 5 on a monthly unlimited plan at net10 paying $45/month so my expectation going into this was that it would not be worth an extra $35/month savings to lose cell data, and honestly I figured I would send the phone back, but I've since sold my Nexus 5 and am sticking with Republic.
Cons:
MMS currently only works when sending to Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-mobile (can't send or receive to my wife's phone on Net10)
MMS doesn't work from the new hangouts messaging app, have to send and receive from the old stock messaging app
Android 4.3 instead of 4.4- and I assume they will always be a few months behind on updating to new versions of android since they have to modify the rom to make it work with their system
installing custom ROMs is still highly experimental
Pros:
$10/month for a smartphone- you can't beat that!
Root and Xposed Framework compatible
Wifi calling in places where you might normally have poor cell reception
Ability to switch between the different plans 2x per month and they pro-rate your bill for the days you are on a more expensive plan
Helps keep me off my phone when I'm out with my family
Helps keep me off my phone when I am driving
Referral program- refer your friends and they save $19 on their first month and you save $19 on your bill. Here's my link ​http://referrals.republicwireless.com/a/clk/25Tx5j
If you are using Republic what are you liking/not liking about the service? How long have you been on it? Tips or pointers you might have?

Don't worry about the sprint network. Republic phones can roam on verizon networks. That is the only reason I purchased one for my wife. She is on the 10 buck plan which is about 12.75 a month with taxes. Sprint data speeds are horrible here and I could never go back to phone as small as the moto x unless they stop making larger phones . However, the moto x is a very very nice phone.
I don't like the locked bootloader and the gsm bands are locked and cannot be unlocked. However, I guess republic has to protect their investment. However, I have to admit that it is pretty much stock android and you can disable almost any app without root which is really nice.
Anyway enjoy your phone and there are some threads already on this subject around here on xda. Folks have rooted the device and there is a restore to stock rom out also.
Later.

I am currently on the 3G $25 a month plan with the Moto X. Its been ok, cell handoff is decent although it gets really confused sometimes. Starbucks wifi, even if I have it not connected will cause issues because it constantly tries to connect/send the call through it but fails. Thats particularly annoying if your getting an important call and happen to be in a restaurant near a Starbucks. I have had other issues when just trying to send regular txts and being connected to an unstable wifi connection. The phone just keeps trying to send through wifi but fails to even send the txt rather then using the cellular network.
Honestly I just keep wifi off half the time because I get tired of the failed calls/txts even though sprints 3G (more like 2G) is terribly slow. Still it works and for $25 a month it cant be beat. I am on the fringe of Sprints 4G network though (literally 10 miles away from solid coverage) so I'm hoping they expand into my market soon. My exposure to sprints 4G/LTE network has been pretty positive, with some very competitive speeds.

I am on the $25 dollar plan with RW. I have found a few issues, but nothing that is terribly broken. When on the fringe of WiFi, I will sometimes have a text sent multiple times. I have been told that texts have been received in up to ten duplicates. Another problem is when the phone is connected to WiFi and has the cell radio disabled. The phone will temporarily disconnect from the RW servers or not respond to RW servers and a call will be missed because it was routed to cell, even though my cell radio is disabled. The result is that the person calling me is sent straight to voicemail.

Yeah so far I have only been on the $10/month plan. I will see how that fares the first time I go out of town- no data might be really annoying.
Does RW roam to Verizon's network for data too, or only for talk and text?

Just a general question. Would you say Republic wireless pros outway the cons?

I think it's worth it for people who are able to be on wifi coverage most of the day. The alternative for me would be a monthly unlimited plan at net10 for $45/month which means any phone I want and 2.5gb per month of data. The extra $35/month savings at RW is worth it for me, but if I was going to have to be on the $25/month plan and only save $15 to $20/month I'm not quite sure it would be worth it. Make sense?

I'm on the $10 plan. I think if Verizon would have let me use my Bionic without data, I would have stayed there. I love having a smartphone, but needed to save money, so I got the Moto X the day they released it for sale on RW. I don't leave the house much, and decided I could wait to get home to read emails and check Facebook. I got NavFree for offline navigation, but haven't really tried it out. So far, I'm VERY happy with RW, and the huge savings, and I love the phone.
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jumphour said:
...I got NavFree for offline navigation, but haven't really tried it out...
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I was very happy when I realized that Google Maps works without a data signal, you just have to get started from being on wifi, but once you are in the navigation it will continue to work after leaving wifi. It makes sense though because when you are driving often times you will drive through canyons or remote places where there is no cell signal at all and the navigation still works.

vanvalks said:
I was very happy when I realized that Google Maps works without a data signal, you just have to get started from being on wifi, but once you are in the navigation it will continue to work after leaving wifi. It makes sense though because when you are driving often times you will drive through canyons or remote places where there is no cell signal at all and the navigation still works.
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I read somewhere that it won't re-route if you don't have data and make a wrong turn our there's a detour. Also read that you can save parts of the map to use offline, but they go on the cache and then disappear if you reboot. Not sure if either are true, but I like the idea of having the NavFree maps on the phone all the time.
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You said you can't root. Mine is very much rooting and gravitybox is unbeatable.
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krsmit0 said:
You said you can't root. Mine is very much rooting and gravitybox is unbeatable.
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Sweet. Coming from Cyanogenmod on my Nexus 5 I'm missing a few tweaks. I want to know how to do this!

I searched Google for "root motox republic wireless xda". First result I think k
Used adb and cydia impactor.
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I love my MX with GravityBox.... I just did little things with it, but it made my phone cooler.... Changed colors, reduced the nav bar, centered the time w/day of the week. It's fun.
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I've been reading through the forums trying to figure out how to root this thing so I can install the xposed framework and gravitybox, I should be able to use this toolkit to root my device right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477132

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590
Here is the guide I used. I have a Mac and had to install adb
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I have republic under the 25 dollar a month plan and I love it.
The room I work in is like a bomb shelter so reception is non-existant, but we have wifi everywhere so it's perfect. Overall the Sprint coverage is fine enough in between work and home.
I highly recommend it. Now If only we'd get the Kit Kat update.

krsmit0 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590
Here is the guide I used. I have a Mac and had to install adb
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That guide worked great! So happy to have quick unlock, pie controls, expanded desktop, battery circle percentage, advanced reboot, and so many other customizable options back in my control! I really thought I was giving this stuff up by switching to RW, happy to see I'm not. Thanks for your help and input guys!
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You said you can't root. Mine is very much rooting and gravitybox is unbeatable.
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Original post updated to reflect ability to root and install Xposed framework. Thanks for the heads up on what I was missing!

I just switched from a HTC One V on Virgin Mobile to the Moto X on RW! Huuuge upgrade!
As for service... I haven't had any issues yet. I know MMS doesn't work from the hangouts apps, but the is mainly it.
Great phone, low monthly bill. Won't complain.
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vanvalks said:
That guide worked great! So happy to have quick unlock, pie controls, expanded desktop, battery circle percentage, advanced reboot, and so many other customizable options back in my control! I really thought I was giving this stuff up by switching to RW, happy to see I'm not. Thanks for your help and input guys!
Original post updated to reflect ability to root and install Xposed framework. Thanks for the heads up on what I was missing!
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I waited over a month to root, but when the wife got a motox for her aio account, I had to have one step better.
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[Q] Wireless tether? AT&T?

So after rooting with unleash the beast, it added wireless tether to my phone...
i am very excited about this but i am slightly concerned about actually using it. I have heard people talk about At&t being able to tell you have been tethering by how big your data packages are..
so what i am asking is.. is this concern over rated? can they and do they really check? and how many of you are wireless tethering with your captivate?
btw i have had the unlimited data package deal since iphone 3g so i still get "unlimited" data instead of 2gb limit
thanks in advance, and sorry if this is a stupid Q that has been answered b4
Could they find out - yes; do they, probably not; BUT if you do hit up against the 5Gb limit of unlimited a lot they will start looking. It is not easy, but they can do packet inspection and easily infer that your traffic is PC based and not phone based. If you use this as your primary internet connection at home you will get caught. If you tether now and then, you should be fine.
And don't apologize, use the search function.
I have seen guys post up their bills that showed 30+ gigs for multiple months! Said it was even from torrent downloading! I use it in the summer as my main connection usually ~3-4 gigs for 3 years now and have never had a problem.
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They don't seem to care
I blew it out of the water this moth and they didn't seem to care
Never had a problem. I don't download really huge amounts of data on a tethered connection (leave that for other times). Normal use, such as web surfing, emails (with normal attachments) streaming video, etc should never result in any issues.
I've not experienced any issues. I don't use that much data however. I think the largest at one time was when I had to download Kies on my netbook when I was out of town. Other than that 200MB at once, it's nothing more than normal web usage.
I blew it out of the water this moth and they didn't seem to care
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Seriously???? What in the world do you do with your phone??
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Seriously???? What in the world do you do with your phone??
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Seconded... I use my phone frequently for work which involves vpn + mutliple ssh sessions for 8 hours a day when I am away from the office and I usually hit about 2gb. To hit 5-10-20gb, you have to be running torrents or something stupid. That's insane.
That being said, I use wireless tethering and don't pay the additional tethering fee. I've done this for a year on AT&T and did it for years on Sprint (man, I miss their data network!) without any problems or charges.
I hit 5 to 10 gigs a month for the past six months. My phone is my major internet connection. That said, the only time I've tethered is for a friends youtube addiction and about once a week for the s wifes iphone 20 mb cap on apps. No problems, but I've been waiting for em to throttle me down to edge.
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question about the at&t microcell

i have unlimited minute plan allready do they charge you more just to use the device or do you just buy the device and if youre voice plan was unlimited before you bought the microcell there is no extra charge?
You pay for it, that's it. They have a plan you can pay monthly for, but it isn't needed.
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You pay for it, that's it. They have a plan you can pay monthly for, but it isn't needed.
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so the scenario is now, i have unlimited talk&text&2gig of web which i barely touch i download everything off my home wifi, so my bill wont go up 1 cent except for the cost of the device?? i mean i still have unlimited talk and text even if it goes through the device?? i know about the data but i avoid that by useing my wifi... they still charging 150 for it???
the answer is yes. Your choice: unlimited everything and weak signal or unlimited everything with micro cell using your broadband service. Just to get strong cell signal.
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If you don't have unlimited minutes, it's $20 per month to allow unlimited microcell usage.
Make sure you get a good GPS lock on the microcell, otherwise your phone will flip out. I had to exchange my first unit. Once I put the second unit on a UPS I've not had any problems.
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at&t has been giving out microcells recently - mostly to iphone owners to keep them from going to Verizon. I would make a run at getting a free one. Just tell them the iphone on Verizon is looking really good
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at&t has been giving out microcells recently - mostly to iphone owners to keep them from going to Verizon. I would make a run at getting a free one. Just tell them the iphone on Verizon is looking really good
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Wish I'd known that. Had to buy one after being an att customer for 6 years and my house didn't get their signal, although they stated it did. Oh well, now I get full bars so it's all good I guess...but at $150...ouch!
The $20 per month is not required but if you add it it helps you get a rebate for the micro cell...so add it, cubit the rebate and then remove it once you've paid it for the first month...that'd my advice.
...jeepers creepers mofo.s...
Just a word of warning on the MicroCell. I had one for a while (I'm selling it now on eBay). A couple of times a month our cell phones would all stop working at the house. I would have to go to the web site to un-register and re-register the MicroCell to get things working again. There was no way to tell that anything was wrong (you still had 5 bars) you just couldn't place or receive calls.
How to get a free microcell and additional $ from att
It is a pain, but it worked for me.
I contacted att on/about 5 -6 times, spoke to various tech support people. Proved to att that I get very poor reception (no 3g), live beyond 5 miles from a tower, etc.
Took a little bit of time, but found the right person who would deal. They gave me $200+ due to poor reception from when I purchased my captivate (3 months)(of course, I've had poor reception for years)
Purchased the microcell for $150, participated in their $100 rebate plan. I had to pay for the $20 service until the rebate came through...=$40 cost.
Instead of paying for the microcell, I netted $110.
I find that att always deals...just need to find the right contact at the company.
does the rom or modem have any bearing on the microcell working? in other words i have paragon 5.1 on my cell and modem i9000bvjjpd does that matter or will it work anyways and if modem is a issue which should i go back to?
i got the microcell running, works good pretty good clarity, manager at store asked me if i wanted a job, she said she had never seen someone belittle the at&t reps into giveing a full cost credit i had to pay 220 but i had a 220 credit on my account before i left the store, something about thee microcell did NOT like the modem i was useing sucker went into reboot loop finaly loaded another modem and ran clock work recovery and flashed new modem and problem vanished
Do any of you know, if you have a microcell in your house can a family member with a non-data, voice only phone, like a go-phone say, receive and make phone calls over the microcell?
As far as I know, if they are an AT&T customer, they can use it, as long as you give them access
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benebrady said:
As far as I know, if they are an AT&T customer, they can use it, as long as you give them access
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Their phone also has to be 3G. You may laugh, but my mom's phone is an old Nokia that isn't 3G, so her phone won't see my Microcell.
When I first got my Microcell I had problems about once a week - that was with a Linksys router. My Linksys started giving me a lot of problems, so I replaced it with a NetGear. I haven't had any problems with the Microcell since. It was expensive because I couldn't talk anyone into cutting me a break (and I called several times), but it is SO worth it to have full bars at my house.
I got a Microcell for free - I've been an AT&T customer since before Cingular - I think I started with them in 1986. The local corporate store owner lives right nearby, he has a Microcell because the reception here is so bad. I called AT&T and politely but firmly insisted they give me one - and after a day's review, they called me and told me to go to that store and pick one up. They had discussed it with the manager and he confirmed how bad our reception is. It works well
Has anyone else with a Microcell noticed that the battery drains very quickly? I've had mine for a couple of months now, and the battery in my Captivate drains at the rate of about 5-8% in an hour. That's with little to no activity.
Shouldn't it be the opposite? Full signal, less battery drain? I've seen the opposite before I got the Microcell.
Interesting you should say that, I've been wondering the same thing (battery drain since the Microcell installation). Maybe it isn't SpeedMod 13c after all.
Yep. I was using SpeedMod 13a when I was running Cog 3.04. It was great paired with the modem I had (jk4 if I remember correctly). It was sipping very little power, until I got home to the Microcell and then it dropped like a rock like I mentioned before. It's happening for me again with Cog 4, so I think it might be something with the MicroCell. No way to really troubleshoot it either, since AT&T have locked these things down pretty tight (no UI, etc.).
I'd be curious to see how many of us are having this same issue or if anyone is having the opposite (no battery drain).
reinbeau said:
Interesting you should say that, I've been wondering the same thing (battery drain since the Microcell installation). Maybe it isn't SpeedMod 13c after all.
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I'm calling ATT tomorrow. Years I've been putting up with crap signal at my house...I'm gonna use the Iphone to Verizon routine

You can tether computers with bluetooth.

So, I was bored and sitting in class, when I decided I should add my D3 to my laptop as a bluetooth device (for file transfers down the road).
After I established a connection, I figured out you can tether through bluetooth.
Here's how (for Windows 7):
1) Press Start
2) Open "devices and printers"
3) Enable bluetooth on your phone
4) Click on "add a device" in the top-left of "devices and printers" on your computer
5) Establish a connection.
6) Find your D3 in the list of devices
7) Right click the phone's icon
8) Hover your mouse over "connect using" so that "access point" pops out to the right of the menu
9) "Click "access point"
10) INTERNET
just found this out too...
is there any way for verizon to figure out that youre doing this (other than the obvious 'if youre torrenting and pulling huge amounts of data they'll know')
I don't know if they can or not. I've pulled over 15gb of data this month (on my Incredible before I switched to D3 2 days ago) using the wireless tether app. I know they can't with that, so maybe this works the same way.
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dpwhitty11 said:
I've pulled over 15gb of data this month (on my Incredible before I switched to D3 2 days ago) using the wireless tether app.
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No offense, but it's people like you that caused Verizon to implement data caps and the new tiers in the first place.
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No offense, but it's people like you that caused Verizon to implement data caps and the new tiers in the first place.
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It was just that one time, lol. The internet in my dorm went down.
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imnotmikal said:
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No offense, but it's people like you that caused Verizon to implement data caps and the new tiers in the first place.
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They offered unlimited packages then get indignant when someone uses more than a couple hundred megs.
They put the new tiers in place PURELY to make money. They know as people start using netflix and spotify/pandora they will use more and more data. They could have beefed up the network, or charged people so much money that people won't be able to use the features they bought on said phones.
They went with option B.
I didn't see this post before, I've been trying to get Wifi Tethering to work on my SIM Based (3G) Droid 3 on Telstra (in Australia).
I tried everything, new ROM, wifi tether hack, tether market apps but nada. It would connect to Wifi, but either NAT doesn't work, or something like that is stopping data from passing "through" the phone.
This morning I thought maybe I can get Bluetooth tether to work with my Asus Transformer (unrooted).
After pairing, and selecting "Internet Access" in the pairing options on the tablet everything works! Awesome. I was so close to sending this phone back.
All I need to do now is work out how to fix the CRAPPY battery life! (and figure out wifi tether when I have more time).
Cheers
If you want more battery life, get the official extended battery. It gets me through a heavy day of usage with ~20% to spare.
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This works with my Asus Transformer as well. I was using my Droid 3 bluetooth to tether my Transformer tonight. Worked great!
Fix for BT tethering battery life:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215496#post17744219
Crashy as hell though, at the moment.
2manytoys said:
I didn't see this post before, I've been trying to get Wifi Tethering to work on my SIM Based (3G) Droid 3 on Telstra (in Australia).
I tried everything, new ROM, wifi tether hack, tether market apps but nada. It would connect to Wifi, but either NAT doesn't work, or something like that is stopping data from passing "through" the phone.
This morning I thought maybe I can get Bluetooth tether to work with my Asus Transformer (unrooted).
After pairing, and selecting "Internet Access" in the pairing options on the tablet everything works! Awesome. I was so close to sending this phone back.
All I need to do now is work out how to fix the CRAPPY battery life! (and figure out wifi tether when I have more time).
Cheers
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Appreciate your comment!
I'm in the same boat as you. All I've got left to deal with now is Verizon's radio lockout of the call forwarding/waiting options, and i'm set.
I haven't got around to testing the Chinese radio yet...
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Appreciate your comment!
I'm in the same boat as you. All I've got left to deal with now is Verizon's radio lockout of the call forwarding/waiting options, and i'm set.
I haven't got around to testing the Chinese radio yet...
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Me too. Let me know if you find a fix. Cheers.
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If you want more battery life, get the official extended battery. It gets me through a heavy day of usage with ~20% to spare.
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Is is any heavier?
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Is is any heavier?
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Maybe like a couple of grams or some other insignificant amount. So, no.
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In 2011 It's funny to see the people amazed for something, that any sonyericsson phone does since the 2001
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I don't know if they can or not. I've pulled over 15gb of data this month (on my Incredible before I switched to D3 2 days ago) using the wireless tether app. I know they can't with that, so maybe this works the same way.
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I used to have a Incredible and went to a D3. Do you have a windows 7 Dell computer too??? lol
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I used to have a Incredible and went to a D3. Do you have a windows 7 Dell computer too??? lol
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Nope, HP dm4x, linux mint debian but it used to be win7.
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In 2011 It's funny to see the people amazed for something, that any sonyericsson phone does since the 2001
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The technology has been around a while, its greedy carriers that have been blocking it. It makes no sense with metered data plans, x GB is still x GB whether consumed on the phone or on a tethered computer. We are surprised the Droid 3 and other Droid phones can bluetooth tether for free without root. Why would I pay for wifi tether when bluetooth is free. I'm not sure what the speed limit of bluetooth is but I get full 3G speeds.
Mine is extremely slow on my work laptop compared to when I use the mobile hotspot. Is this normal? It's a work laptop and they still force me to use windows XP could that have something to do with it?
Is this free without any rooting/hacking?
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No data again...

This is getting old, I thought when I traded in my POS thunderbolt I was done with these problems. Hard reset, pulled SIM, pulled battery, & still nothing. Someone please remind me why I'm paying $110+ a month for service that seems to always have problems. I'm not rooted, was told to get new SIM from VZW..too bad they are closed at 11 pm
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recently i took a road trip from FL to MI. Not even an hour into the trip i lost all data connectivity. when i called VZ i was xferred to tier 2 support. when they couldn't help me they xferred me to the 4G support team. they couldn't help me either so the guy figured my radio was toast and sent me a new phone but also left my ticket open for additional research. once i hit the Atlanta area my 4G lit up and all was well. but the moment i left a 4G area i was dead in the water. the next day I was called back on the open ticket. the tech told me they were pushing a hybrid PRL to my phone b/c the region i was traveling in (and where i live) had a lot of old alltel towers. well low and behold my data connection has been flawless since. no more handoff issues either whereas before i was dropping the data connection almost daily.
not sure if this would resolve your issue but perhaps its worth a shot. call tech support and ask to speak to the 4G group - maybe say they were helping you before and you need to follow up just in case there are any restrictions to who they transfer to that dept.
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I have had days where my data goes in and out all day long and other days where my data is solid all day. The other day, a day when I left my GPS in my wife's car and was traveling out of town, I lost data for the entire day. I called VZW tech support and of course they didn't know as much about the phone as I did and couldn't help. I am rooted, running the latest update pulled from the Motorola servers. I am afraid to take it in to Verizon because I don't want them to see that the phone is rooted and refuse to help me. Right now, if I unroot, the only way they would be able to tell that the phone had been rooted is because I can't revert to the old baseband, so I figure I'll wait for the official update to roll out, try that if it is different that what I already have, and if that doesn't fix it, I can bring it in to Verizon because my baseband will then match stock, updated phones. I agree, this a really frustrating situation that we shouldn't be paying for.
Does this mean you're running the .893 version of the radio?
y3llo said:
Does this mean you're running the .893 version of the radio?
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Yes. Some days everything is fine, some days, not so much. Since it's so erratic, it's hard to say if the new radio improved anything.
I find I only drop 3g never 4g even then an airplane toggle usually brings it right back.
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Yes. Some days everything is fine, some days, not so much. Since it's so erratic, it's hard to say if the new radio improved anything.
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I'm having the same issues... Also on leaked radio.. but now with new radio when I leave 4g area add I did yesterday.. I lost all data connection, until I returned to 4g area, and did a batt, sd, and Sim card pull.. I really regret this garbage phone.. I average 60GB a month
on my thunderbolt.. Can barely use ten on this hunk of crap.

root: free tether: use 3g on same phone

Hi, Im interested in rooting my G note.
I rooted my HTC HD2 a long time ago and it was just alot better (custom roms). HOWEVER:
Im interested in this android tether application: Obviously you can tether you 3g you pay for monthly with the phones default settings. BUT
using root access, does this mean you can cancel your contract!, get a pay as you go contract, use the android tether to effectively steal the 3g data and then stream it to the same phone over wifi and browse for instance on Opera mini, mobile firefox, receive email over it?
or, is it the case that you can only tether to other devices such as ipod touch,,another wifi capable phone?
I can't really see the use in this otherwiseunless you carry around two phones all the time.
Can someone clear this up please because all the videos Ive watched they only prove it works on another device.
thanks very much, and I hope this works
by the way , I am based in the UK, have the standard european version and Im on a 3g network called 3. If this only works withother uk providers Id be happy to switch to orange/t-mobile , O2 etc
fudge2011toffeebar said:
using root access, does this mean you can cancel your contract!, get a pay as you go contract, use the android tether to effectively steal the 3g data and then stream it to the same phone over wifi and browse for instance on Opera mini, mobile firefox, receive email over it?
I can't really see the use in this otherwiseunless you carry around two phones all the time.
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Forgive me as i dont really understand what you're looking for. Is there a link to the tethering app you're speaking of? Tethering apps are usually so you can use your phones 3g for your laptop/pc. If youre on 3, then youre unlimited bundle comes in handy. A friend of mine tethers his sgs2 t9 his laptop using unlimited 3g as his broadband connection and has done for some time now without being restricted.
I dont understand when you say "steal the 3g from a pay as you go phone" to your note? That seems pointless. Surely yiu could just stick the pay as you go sim into your note?
Also, there are a lot of tethering apps that dont require root access.
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I thought one of the advantages of rooting your phone is to be able to not pay the monthly contract and use the tethering wifi from whichever network your on.
this guy says it in the first few minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVXMjVpMX2k&feature=related
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Also, there are a lot of tethering apps that dont require root access.
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yeh I know this....so...
oh, so it is only when you have a data plan already, you get tethering for free. when rooted. Nothing special then. ''. ?
so you can't have no data plan and effectively steal free data? ? '',
oh wait: having said that i was thethering a few months ago and my bill was huge: so I dont get it for free..
so reverting my original question:: does this work on the 3 network in the uk? thx
also:
couldn't i just root like an old samsung galaxy, keep it in my left pocket, travel the world , lol and keep a galaxy note in the other pocket using the wifi from the old samsung?
Im a little confused too, couldn't you do this with no data plan, i.e pay as you go and when you connect to 'data 3g' they charge you as you go, but effectively just tether it to another phone for free? so basically you would just pay for calls and not internet?
Ok, what the guy is on about is thqt operators in us charge an extra bolt on for the priveledge of enabling tethering. O2 used to do it when tethering was first enabled on the iphone 3gs, it was 10 quid a month or something rediculous.
Im pretty sure that now its free to enable tethering in the uk. All it means is that you can pair your phone using existing data plan to your laptop or pc, and effectively use it as a mobile 3g modem.
So yes, tethering will work on any network or rom, you're just limited by your existing data plan as to how worthwhile it is. If you get a 3 all you can eat data plan, then its unlimited, but of course speeds are pretty crappy.
Im sure there is a way to hack an operators 3g networks and get data for free but would imagine thats a bit beyond xda's strict code of ethics
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I see, what I meant when I got charged alot was that I went over the 5GB limit.
If I was to tether for free, using the root access, would I basically 'eat up that data' whilst tethering to another device for free?
As you know, in the uk, the tethering access most commonly comes under the same data plan and isn't free in that regard.
Yes, tethering just uses your existing data plan. Try getting one of 3's all you can eats if possible, im sure theyd be willing to if you call them up.
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To me it looks more like you have no idea about what rooting and tethering really is/does.... Since what you are asking is completely ridiculous...
You want to use your 3G data to send it over wifi, back to the same phone......
You can just cut out the tether part and use your 3G directly........
it's like getting into the car by entering into the trunk to get out by the back door to finally open the drivers door and sit in the drivers seat, instead of just open the drivers door right away like normal minded ppl would do.....
Guess we all start somewhere, i was confused as hell when i started out with smartphones.
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friedje said:
To me it looks more like you have no idea about what rooting and tethering really is/does.... Since what you are asking is completely ridiculous...
You want to use your 3G data to send it over wifi, back to the same phone......
You can just cut out the tether part and use your 3G directly........
it's like getting into the car by entering into the trunk to get out by the back door to finally open the drivers door and sit in the drivers seat, instead of just open the drivers door right away like normal minded ppl would do.....
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friedje said:
it's like getting into the car by entering into the trunk to get out by the back door to finally open the drivers door and sit in the drivers seat, instead of just open the drivers door right away like normal minded ppl would do.....
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just come back to this thread after a few hours: no its not because you would be getting it for free.
It is more like buying a drivers door and not actually owning a boot door or side door
surely?!
Don't you understand?? In the uk you can have a pay as you go contract and then pay extra for 3g when you use it, so instinct would suggest you could effetcivel climb into your car through the boot and into the drivers seat!!! to use the pay as you go 3g (for free) through tethering(eg the metaphorical boot ) and use the wifi receiver of the phone to use it!!! (eg the metaphorical drivers seat )
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But anyway I understood from before that the phone can't receive that own signal. Although now Im questioning either the other persons understanding or your ignorance So what Im now saying is 'yes its useful'. But does it work in the uk where the tethering is just the same usage of the data plan eg 5GB????
Im sure I could ask 3 for unlimted but tbh the people at their contact centre are umbelievably annoying. Id prefer to use this way of tethering as it'd give me an excuse to put effort into rooting my device anyway
Strange logic indeed... Pretty sure the car would have blown up and you'd be in hospital!
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strange humour. Has no one got a striaight answer to this.
Or can i assume everyone on this forum is mobile obsessed, and works for mobile phone network companies
Answer answered a few times.
I dont think you understand the principals of tethering or a normal data connection.
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So, if i was to tether having rooted the phone, it would still cost me is that what your saying?
because I don't think that was said at all ?
Tether uses data from the phone. If you have no data plan, you cant tether full stop.
If you know of a way to hack 3's 3g network, please let me know, i'll transfer now.
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i just found this, but, since you can have payg internet i see no reason why you couldn't tether .. Correct me if im wrong but it just seemed a naturally progressive assumption.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=719110
sorry i can't just take your word for it ,
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ok I found this though http://technoratia.com/2011/12/30/three-uks-position-on-tethering-devices-to-your-phone/ three don't allow tethering on payg,,, (as its their policy)
suppose someone must do in the uk??? then it would work right? presuming the tethering is alos in the payg form and not monthly eg bolt on to a payg plan.
giffgaff allow tethering from payg but you wil lbe paying a hell of alot of money to tether on a non contract tarriff
you cannot tether if you do not have the creit on payg or a contract that gives you data each month
what exactly are you trying to achive ? internet on your laptop for free from a mobile connection and dropping a home broadband connection?
You cannot resend a tethered signal from a phone back to itself as the tethering itself uses the phone's WIFI module, and as such cannot connect to the WIFI hotspot since the phone has no additional WIFI modules. So what you're asking for is literally impossible under normal circumstances.
Also, am I right in understanding that what you're asking for is bordering on fraud/theft of services?
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You cannot resend a tethered signal from a phone back to itself as the tethering itself uses the phone's WIFI module, and as such cannot connect to the WIFI hotspot since the phone has no additional WIFI modules. So what you're asking for is literally impossible under normal circumstances.
Also, am I right in understanding that what you're asking for is bordering on fraud/theft of services?
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He is trying to enter a Tesco, and eat their M&M's without opening the bag....
And consequently not opening his wallet either
And he still doesn't understand rooting, dataplans or tethering, which isn't a bad thing, but he could just take our word for it, or read up on it.
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He is trying to enter a Tesco, and eat their M&M's without opening the bag....
And consequently not opening his wallet either
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Lol... Too true.
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