lack of development for this device - Asus Transformer TF701

I have to say compared to most other tablets out there I'm suprised that such a powerful tablet has so little development compared to the previous versions of this device.. Why is that?

And there I was thinking I had done pretty well. :cyclops:
Probably lack of devs owning one I would guess. Tbh after the TF700 probably not a lot of people wanted to trust Asus again.....

sbdags said:
And there I was thinking I had done pretty well. :cyclops:
Probably lack of devs owning one I would guess. Tbh after the TF700 probably not a lot of people wanted to trust Asus again.....
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I'm glad you got one. Haven't had a chance to try your ROM yet, but couldn't live without it on my tf700 - I'm waiting to unlock mine until i get a dock and make sure I don't have any problems. My screen is loose in like 3 places so I'm on the fence about that too...

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And there I was thinking I had done pretty well. :cyclops:
Probably lack of devs owning one I would guess. Tbh after the TF700 probably not a lot of people wanted to trust Asus again.....
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Its good but I prefer Roms based on stock aosp with theme engines and custom animations, my note 2 has so many Roms to choose from

we got cm11, we got speedy CROMi-x what else you want?
you gonna flash different rom daily???????????????

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we got cm11, we got speedy CROMi-x what else you want?
you gonna flash different rom daily???????????????
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My understanding is that the cm11 ROM is a preview and not stable yet

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My understanding is that the cm11 ROM is a preview and not stable yet
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are you even unlocked and rooted and installed recovery. If you don't plan on to, i suggest return this and get N7 or G Pad if quantity is what you want

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Its good but I prefer Roms based on stock aosp with theme engines and custom animations, my note 2 has so many Roms to choose from
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Release date for Note 2 : Sept. 2012
Release date for TF701: Nov 2013
The stock rom is almost AOSP, but with some tweaks and customizations that dont degrade the experience with bloatware.
Personally I prefer a few stable Roms with awesome support like CromiX and CM.

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are you even unlocked and rooted and installed recovery. If you don't plan on to, i suggest return this and get N7 or G Pad if themes is what you want
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I was unlocked and was running sdbags ROM but when I turned off my tablet after installing that it never turned back on so I'm apprehensive to root and install again, wasn't sure if it was rooting or hardware failure, I got this tablet because its killer hardware and a great deal, which is why I'm surprised by the lack of Dev support I thought this tablet would be far more popular,
I kinda figured I wasn't going to risk rooting again until there was a solid aosp ROM out there similar to what I'm running on my note 2

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I was unlocked and was running sdbags ROM but when I turned off my tablet after installing that it never turned back on so I'm apprehensive to root and install again, wasn't sure if it was rooting or hardware failure, I got this tablet because its killer hardware and a great deal, which is why I'm surprised by the lack of Dev support I thought this tablet would be far more popular,
I kinda figured I wasn't going to risk rooting again until there was a solid aosp ROM out there similar to what I'm running on my note 2
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its because its not a huge jump for people coming from tf700

On my Droid 4 I have the choice between 5 or 6 roms and what am I running?
Modified stock... Why?
Because on each rom something is not working or buggy: keyboard or Bluetooth or docking support or auto rotation or......
Modding and tweaking the firmware designed for the specific hardware delivers by far the best results for me. But maybe that's just because I like things to work or I dislike to constantly troubleshoot essential functions.... Thank God for CROMi-X! That's all I need

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On my Droid 4 I have the choice between 5 or 6 roms and what am I running?
Modified stock... Why?
Because on each rom something is not working or buggy: keyboard or Bluetooth or docking support or auto rotation or......
Modding and tweaking the firmware designed for the specific hardware delivers by far the best results for me. But maybe that's just because I like things to work or I dislike to constantly troubleshoot essential functions.... Thank God for CROMi-X! That's all I need
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Well that is all due to the problems this tablet has with the dock connection and build quality of it.
I guess between 60 and 75 % of all delivered tablets with dock suffered from that problem. I had 4 and due to that have none anymore. Will look at it again when proven the problem has been solved but reading that 2013.11 tablets still have the problem it is still a no go.
So many did send it back and went for another brand due to the fact that Asus sucks with officially acknowledging this problem.
Many times I was in contact directly with Asus in the Netherlands and they told me that they knew about the problem but Headoffice of Asus ignored it.
So guess what others users with this problem did with it........
Next to that in most countries in Europe you can only buy the combo with dock so no escape ordering only the tablet.
Result: not enough participation from users and no interests from dev's except Sbdags of course!!

The simple reason is this tablet doesn't sell well. Its look is kinda dated, it's thick bezel, heavy, short battery. The strength of having a dock got tarnished by poor build quality of the dock. I got mine for $350 after rebate from tiger direct. I'm willing to overlook the short comings and focus on the awesome screen, the crazy fast Cpu, near stock android 4.3. I just hope KitKat will come. I don't care if there are custom ROMs. It is what it is.
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The simple reason is this tablet doesn't sell well. Its look is kinda dated, it's thick bezel, heavy, short battery. The strength of having a dock got tarnished by poor build quality of the dock. I got mine for $350 after rebate from tiger direct. I'm willing to overlook the short comings and focus on the awesome screen, the crazy fast Cpu, near stock android 4.3. I just hope KitKat will come. I don't care if there are custom ROMs. It is what it is.
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I wouldn't say it necessarily looked dated.

mr.fast said:
I wouldn't say it necessarily looked dated.
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I actually like the bezel, makes sure you can get a good grip on it with out accidentally touching the screen

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I actually like the bezel, makes sure you can get a good grip on it with out accidentally touching the screen
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Me too. Device doesn't look dated at all IMO. Screen is gorgeous and that is what you use it for.

Another factor is whenever a tegra SoC gets mentioned on any sort of tech website it seems like there is always someone willing to say how much tegras suck a few dozen times. That can't be good for sales, as a lot of people do base their purchases off of the word of mouth surrounding the product.
For what they are, and what the competition offers, they really aren't a bad chip set at all, but a lot of people apparently feel burnt by the Tegra 3 based off the Tf700 and 300s, but that was more or less just the terrible I/O performance issues that should be blamed.

I agree with all of it. Asus is my choice of PC gear although my acer A500 never failed me. it just didnt have neon with the tegra 2. gave it to a buddy and its still kickin. now before this one i bummed my wifes old Transformer Prime TF201. Now that thing was garbage. This one is amazing. I would use a cardboard box as long as it ran like this and i could root it...the unlock bootloader tool is prime example of why I stick with Asus..they still have some linux left in em.
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Every device thats new has issues to sort out.
Its was released in November. The gaming on this is fantastic. Just give DeadTrigger 2 a try. Crazy console qualifty gaming. More devs will come along. This Device is about double What the tf101 was. Considering the price. You get 32gb storage,High resolution, High performance tegra 4. Sound is fine. I think it might take a while but its the device to buy unless your going proprietary or want to shell out more cash and get less.
WARNING: Some screen protectors have rubbery surfaces not suitable for a stylus(ZAGG,Skinomi). RUBBER on RUBBER!
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You can play NFSMW like you never saw it before. High quality reflections, dynamic lighting. Not what you would expect really. If you underclock it. You probably get that same quality and hardly notice anything. Would just run a bit cooler.

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Its look is kinda dated, it's thick bezel, heavy, short battery.
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I don't mean to pick on you specifically, but it always cracks me up to see critiques of tablets and the like when they mention appearance. Even CNet reviewers will write a paragraph or two about the product's appearance. Seriously?! It doesn't match your shoes, so you don't want to be seen using it?! How very superficially Apple of them.

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Nokia N8 or Galaxy Nexus?

Looking to upgrade my HTC G2, since I'm kinda bored of it and dealing with custom ROMs and whatnot - I want something simple/fluid out of the box with official updates in the future for a little bit. Basically limited my phone search to two in particular - the Nokia N8 and the Galaxy Nexus.
The N8 draws me primarily for the camera (great quality + xenon flash), but also the plethora of other features compared to my G2 (AMOLED screen, HDMI out, front-facing camera, Bluetooth 3.0, USB OTG, lighter/smaller, pentaband, battery life). That, and the price - ~$350 for one in good condition and then $30/month for my current T-Mobile plan (best plan for my needs and cheapest price I've seen).
As for the Galaxy Nexus, it's most of the above plus a bigger screen/resolution (both a positive and a negative for me) and NFC (though I probably won't use it for a while as I have neither Mastercard nor Citibank). But...$650+ is a lot when that's about how much I paid for my M11x R1 laptop, especially since it's be more prone to accidents/loss/theft.
Don't really care for app selection (like 90% of my use will be calls/texts/email/web) - the $300+ difference between the two would probably be used for a 7" Android tablet, mostly for watching videos on something more portable than my laptop, which I know I wouldn't buy if I bought the Nexus (had two Android devcies at the same time once and found it too redundant).
Basically not interested in any non-pentaband phone at this point, and no other Nokia phone really grabs me like the N8 (the N9 is nice, but IMO a step back compared to the N8 in features/ports). PLEASE don't just go and say something like "Nokia is old/out" or "Galaxy Nexus, I have it and it's great" - I'd like actual answers, particularly people who have used Symbian Anna (not necessarily the N8 though).
Only other phone I'd sorta consider is the Optimus from Republic Wireless for the cheaper plan price, but I'm waiting for the service to improve (and allow on-the-fly Wifi/CDMA switching) before I truly consider it.
Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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Galaxy Nexus. End of discussion!
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This is what I mean...I'm assuming it's just a joke post, and it doesn't really help my decision >.>
Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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Galaxy Nexus. Nuff said
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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*sigh* is there a better forum I can ask this question?
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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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They're just screwing with you. Honestly I'm going to give you the same answer though but I'll explain why:
Your reasoning for liking the n8 for the features it has are all in the gn. But the gn has a a better resolution, a super amoled screen (trust me, there is a HUGE difference), a better processor and a better os in the sense of more applications and overall customization. If you're willing to go for the gn* then go for it.
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Well, the N8's camera is quite a bit better, if only for xenon flash, and from what I've read the recent Anne update has improved the speed/quality of it...not ever really having to carry a point-and-shoot is a big plus for me.
And yeah, better processor and OS - but for a phone, I could honestly live without it. There's maybe one app I even use out of the house that's dependent on a wireless connection, and if it comes to it I can just bring the 7" tablet with (exactly why I want a 7" one - still portable enough to stick in my pocket). As I said, 90% of my phone use is basically just that, with email and web browsing on the side when I have the time for it.
Honestly, the biggest thing is the price - I can't exactly afford to replace it quickly if it were to break or get lost/stolen, and considering how much Android phones - Nexus or not - depreciate...then there's the screen size. Too small to comfortably watch a movie on, and too big to warrant a 7" tablet for me (and I'm just not interested in anything beyond 7") - especially when it'd be an extra $200+ for basically the same thing I have, an android device, in a bigger size.
I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm set on the N8 or something, I just don't want to get a Galaxy Nexus simply because it's "better" when I don't even really need all that "better-ness"
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Seriously? If you aren't going to take our advice, why post this? You could of taken the the time to search and read about the Nexus and Nokia than open a thread..... The obvious answer is going to be the Nexus. And you're going to get the same answer in any other forum.
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It's not about not taking advice, but I'm looking for advice that consists of more than picking one phone basically because it's the popular phone to recommend. I get this is a tech/phone forum, but that shouldn't mean that everybody only focuses on what's new or "the best" and disregard valid reasons to consider other stuff.
As I mentioned - take into account the fact that I'm going to be getting a 7" Android tablet (likely some Honeycomb/Tegra 2 device) along with said Nokia device, which I absolutely would not get with the Nexus (due to the combined cost, smaller screen size difference, and redundancy of two Android devices - meaning one or the other will be highly underutilized as an Android device).
When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?
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When you don't need a better phone, why buy a new phone? What's wrong with your G2?
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I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.
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I want either phone for the better camera (plus secondary) and HDMI-output primarily, but also having better features in general.
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.
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N8 is a good device, very durable and has an awesome camera, but will you ever use the camera? Just asking. My friend has it, and he likes it a lot. But he said to me the other day "I want Android." It's worth mentioning that he is a long time Nokia fan and not a geek kinda user like me. But why suddenly said he wants Android? Well because Symbian sucks. Period. Yes, Anne update is not bad, but it just ripped off Android. It looks like a complete Android rip-off.
If the camera is very important to you, you can go for SGSII. Lower price, better camera, smaller screen therefor easier to handle, and one of the best devices ever built.
All in all the choice is yours. But don't make a decision that will make you regret it.
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Oh, and having 2 Android devices is not redundant. It's just more awesome. I've a Nexus S and an Acer A500, but I still would buy a Galaxy Nexus if I had the money.
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Yeah, I'd definitely use the camera - I don't really use my current camera just because of the mediocre quality, but I know that would change with a better quality one.
I guess the GSII is an option, although the T-Mobile version doesn't have Exynos and that's the best version I can afford in terms of monthly plan price...plus, if T-Mobile goes under and the 1700/2100 band isn't taken by anybody (like AT&T) then the phone will be kinda useless, only being able to get 2G/EDGE. And if I was going to consider a phone like that, I'd probably just get the G2x then, which still has basically all features I'd want and a decent amount cheaper than the GSII.
And I had a Streak 7 (both with Gingerbread and Honeycomb)...and found myself using my G2 most of the time, forcing myself to use the Streak 7 instead when possible. Maybe I didn't give it a chance, or I might just not use enough decent Android apps, I dunno.
Anyway, Polaroid recently announced an interesting camera/Android phone combo that includes optical zoom...but phone specs don't seem too spectacular, and it seems to be only available to AT&T. Not sure if it even has HDMI-out, which would be kinda pointless to have such a nice camera and no video-out capabilities...
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The GN's camera is pretty weak, honestly. The SGS2's camera stomps all over it... and it's not even in the same league as the N8's camera.
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True, but I'm pretty sure it's better than the G2's, especially for being really quick.
It seems like you made your decision long before you made this thread. Get the N8. Voila. Done. Enjoy.
There´s no way I could separate my life from Android, so you know my answer.
Wow, I feel dumb now. I just remembered I'll be getting a Fuji W3 soon, which I'm pretty sure will take decent 2D pictures in addition to 3D. Might as well not bother with the N8 then, might actually consider the Galaxy Nexus then.
In my humble opinion, once you use android as the OS, you'll start to like your phone more than phone/sms, thats why its called smartphone
noooo... dont buy a n8.. u will surely regret...
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You don't want more betterness? Get the N8 then, simple. Seems like you are criticizing the nexus more anyway.
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Thoughts on 2X and your next phone?

The phones over a year old now. I only picked mine up used almost half a year ago for 200 USD. The phone's price really plummeted in just over half a year didn't it? Even now it hasn't dropped further as it hit its rock bottom way back then. High end phones that are older and with less specs cost the same as this as its really unpopular. An example being the Galaxy S.
So in a way its a pretty unsuccessful phone. Reasons? Software support has been terrible, suffering from radio issues. The stock firmware was appalling for a long time. Then the announcement ICS wasn't coming which soon after you saw the price hitting rock bottom. Leading to LG to counter its previous comment and proceed with ICS. Which it probably had no plans to before the backlash. Since the update was due rather late and has since been delayed a quarter.
Hardware wise its not bad. But still outdone by S2's larger screen, double ram and better camera.
All said i'm extremely happy with my first Android especially considering what I paid. But only with the developer support providing the best solutions. If I were a stock user i'd be sorely disappointed, only feeling better for the price.
In terms of my next phone, I want a larger screen 4.7ish but not pocket busting like the note. A better camera but equal to 2X is fine. More RAM because Opera Mobile keeps shutting down when I multitask out for a second, even with an extra 48mb ram hack. Amoled would be nice but not necessary, mainly for its benefits if its sunlight legibility is good. HD is unnecessary in my opinion.
As it stands I probably won't be upgrading for awhile until the likes of the S3 gets cheap. Except its design looks unprofessional. Optimus 4X anyone? :-D They couldn't make the same mistakes again right? Right?
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I will only be upgrading to nexus devices from now on, because of this phone has made me realise I hate manufacturer skins and that I want the latest updates all the time.
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I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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I know. But I think it's pretty cool.
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i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.
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i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.
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You can just remove that plastic cover by pressing it out from the inside
It is glued woth potatoes I think
But my camera quality looks way better now
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I like sony hayabusa, but who knows what will be in a year or so.
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Definitely a Nexus. Best update and mods
Going for a Galaxy S3 in a weeks time.
Would you guys do the same? I had this phone for over a year now
Hayabusa 12mp sounds like potential. If nexus grew a good camera, it'd be killer. The rumour of five nexuses this year is promising
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some people arent that rich to change expensive phones every 12 months.
My next device will be WITH a good battery, a SD card slot (dumb htc with their one series..almost made them perfect), a good camera (likes of SGS3 or more likely htc one x), and an ARM cortex-a15 based cpu (or krait). and quite importantly, a wolfson micro sound chip (also supported by supercurio ) i dont want screens as large as 4,7 inches though
oh, and i hope it will be a nexus...i want good updates... fuuuu LG
this would be a freaking dream phone. but i aint buying anything until the 2x gives up on me, i still really like it
So far i had 2 android phones with the optimus being my second one. I have noticed that all those "specs" do not matter. What matters is a good software. Therefore i would move to a nexus devices when my optimus gets completely destroyed or really useless. No need to keep throwing money on phones if they cannot completely replace my laptop.
I will go for a SGS2 or 3 or a Nexus.
Hopefully soon. Tired of all the probs with my LGOS
currently, my o2x running temasek kang, it give me what i want to do
still waiting for the stable cm9, then will use it about a year
my next phone maybe the galaxy s4
I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.
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I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.
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Nexus seems like the popular choice among us. I think specs matter still otherwise you wouldn't be after a high end phone. I personally have grown accustomed to CM's flexibility and features so i'm not really after software support. Except as we know in our 2X case it lacks drivers for us to update to.
Of course a stable good software release is important, afterall custom ROM users are a minor aspect in comparison to sales. But in the S3's case Samsung are trying to differentiate and add value through the software extras. That's great for most but if your not using it you're paying for nothing.
At least the idea behind the S2 was hardware and just the right software to make it run. This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
What do 2X users here think of the iPhone anyway? I think it's like our polar opposite in the high end. The super expensive overrated and over hyped hardware with good closed software popular phone compared to the piss cheap higher spec phone with miserable software and success.
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This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
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Well, they sure as hell have a long way to go as far as design goes. Pretty much all android phones do. They are butt ugly. The Optimus 2x is actually one of the prettier ones imo! The Galaxy S2 for instance is a design disaster.
I'm not a fan of the iOS, though. When I use it, on my Ipod Touch, I get the feeling that I am being treated like an idiot.
I will have a close look at the ASUS Padfone.
If it only had a 720p screen, I would have bought it.
When the Rumors about 5 new Nexus devices for Jelly Bean come true I hope ASUS makes one of the phones. I love their build quality and design. They also are the fastest when it comes to updates and patches.
I also think that the Optimus 2X is among the prettiest phones. This was the reason I picked it instead of the Galaxy SII (the price was similar at launch).
With CM7.2 UNOFFICIAL (I also use temaseks build) the phone is very good and I get a good battery life lately since I turn my phone off and back on right aufter I unplug it from the charger in the mornings. The only thing I don't like is the Battery life when I use it a lot for webbrowsing and games.
My next Phone will have a 720p display, a bigger battery and more RAM.
SD Card slot, swappable battery are things I would very much miss if they were not available on my next phone. Optimus 4X maybe, Huawei D Quad maybe, Jelly Bean Nexus possibly or the Padfone?
I´m tired of the 2x....
...because of the politics from LG.
The stects of that phone were really good, but as it was said before: Good software ist more worth than good hardware.
I think my next Phone will be the next SGS or a Nexus.
What i need:
SD-Card
huge RAM
720p Display
LTE
NFC
good Cam

[Q] Should I sell my S4 for a Moto X?

So, a little bit of background... I'm on AT&T with a Galaxy S4. AT&T has the bootloader locked up tight so I can't get rid of any of the bloat, or try other ROMs. I was thinking about selling it and going for a Moto X or a N5 but I shied away from the N5 due to camera, battery, and speaker issues. I like the idea that the X is assembled in the US and stuff but mainly I want a phone I can tinker with.
I understand by leaving the S4 I'd be downgrading in screen quality, processing power, IR blaster and camera. I'm not really a phone gamer so I don't know that I'd need all that power. I've heard the X can hold its own in the realm of processing speed and screen but the camera is probably the biggest drawback.
Is it worth it? Convince me. I'm thinking hard about Monday's sale. I want the unlocked DEV ED version but I'd rather be able to motomaker it. If I were to get the AT&T one off contract, would it come branded and locked? Can I load a custom recovery, etc? Thanks for your help.
You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.
This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)
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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.
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It isn't needed on this phone. The S4 needed it because it was so laggy and touchwiz ruined pretty much everything.
finalarcadia said:
This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)
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Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?
In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.
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In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.
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WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?
Andrew149 said:
WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?
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I said it was great not awesome or the best out there.
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Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?
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Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.
I came from a S2 that I ROM'ed the crap out of. As stated the Moto x doesn't need ROM"s but if, like me, you want a different battery, percentage, and a few other tweaks like center clock and different quick tile settings, then all that is needed is root, exposed framework, and gravity box.
Love this phone.
I'll be honest and say I've never believed in any of Samsung's Android products. I tell myself every single time Samsung releases a handset - the hardware's one of the best, but I wouldn't be caught dead being seen using that hardware and software. (I only got the Galaxy Nexus because, well, Nexus.) There. I openly declare my love for the stock Android experience, and even looking at the S4s my friends use there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from me whenever I have to use one.
But I digress. This phone is one of the purchases I have not regretted. Never mind the fact that I had snafus with payment from eBay that resulted in some US$100 taken from me for no reason, never mind the delay in shipping that was caused by a friend of mine, never mind the emotional trauma that I had to go through for a whole month before I got this phone. This is a phone where I can tell people it offers one of the best user experience, everything ranging from the software and its functions, down to the hardware and its design. (Hell, I'd go out on a limb and say this trumps the iPhone.)
In defense of my Moto X, the camera has substantially improved since the first version of software. I'm currently on a KitKat ROM of the Verizon variant, and I wouldn't shy away from using it anymore (though, yes, improvements surely can be made). If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
Until now, I've never had the need to install anything to augment my experience. I haven't installed any of the Xposed mods yet, but I'm planning to soon as I'm missing some of the features granted by custom ROMs (slide down right for shortcuts, vibrate on call connect, etc). But beyond the addition of the features that Motorola actively promotes, such as its Active Notifications, Touchless Controls and Assist, this is going to be the most stock you'll ever get from a well-known phone company. This is how customization is done.
Well, now that I've expressed my love for the phone, I hope to see you joining the Moto X family soon. Now excuse me while I stop sounding like a complete Motorola fanboy. (But seriously, though. The way Motorola has leaped back into the game is nothing short of impressive.)
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Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.
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Not to mention you can get all those features with xposed and gravitybox without even changing the very stable stock rom.
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If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.
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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.
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Then whatcha waiting for? Run baby run. Lol
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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?
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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?
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On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.
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Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.
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Heh. Enjoy! I love this phone. This is after paying almost 700-800 bucks on this phone, and being deprived of LTE usage. (The frequency band Singapore and Malaysia uses for LTE is not supported by the X.) Even then, the tradeoff is still worth it for me. Heh
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!

Moving from TF700 to TF701

I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
sbdags said:
Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
jhermit said:
Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Wow! Many thanks for the donation! That is very kind of you.
Cheers! :highfive: :good:
My last tablet was the TF101 so I cant complain. My reasoning was the same as jhermit. Its the 701 just happens to be the one. With its high resolution, reflections, and so on. A good buy. The Samsung was the white one everywhere. Otherwise I would have gotten it. The white color really through me off of buying it. Can't figure that one out.
The TF701T keeps dropping in price, it may be the one to get.
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I also have upgraded and have a few thoughts to add.
1. The docking station is all plastic, where the tf700t was metal. The plastic seems cheaper and typing and using the touchpad sounds plasticy, but the keyboard does type a bit easier.
2. The USB port on the base station is very very tight. I feel like I'm going to break it when I'm inserting and removing plugs.
3. The lack of vibration in the tablet is a bit of a let-down. I would have preferred to have the option.
4. The Micro USB port on the tablet is very tight and hard to get a card back out. It might be specific to my unit, but it's still an issue for me.
5. There are better brightness and performance options on the tf700t, but that may be part of the older OS as well.
6. The tablet dock hings has a lot more play/wobble in it. I read elsewhere that this was a design reason but it's floppy when I'm carrying the tablet around with the screen open.
7. Chrome was brutally bad on the tf700t; laggy, slow to load things, etc on both stock and custom ROMs. It appears that the extra horsepower in the tf701t has taken care of that problem.
So far so good on the custom ROM with xposed framework settings. I've restored all settings using Titanium Backup and am happy with it so far.
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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pipopipz said:
I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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Never used a camera on a tablet, ever, so I couldn't tell you but everything else is better.
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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pipopipz said:
I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
sbdags said:
If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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You would be surprised......
Take a trip to a top tourist destination, marvel and cringe!
I work in tourism and I see more of them every month! And all of them look utterly, totally stupid if you ask me.
The only thing worse are telescopic extensions handles for the iPhone with some kind of trigger build into it's handle to take pictures and videos. Saw about a dozen of those **** in Las Vegas the other night. And for some reason I'm totally convinced that 99.9% of those pictures land in the recycling bin.... Or they should....
loner. said:
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
Sidewindr said:
Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
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Ruud Westerhout said:
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Actually that kind of makes sense as the 701 has USB3.0 on the KBD Dock.
Currently on a TF201
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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Just go ahead and choose the TF701! I did not have older asus tablets, but from the comments I have read since this forum was launched, all the issues that older Asus tablets had were solved. However, I would advise you to make sure that the keyboard you are going to buy is built recently ( ??/2014). Some people are experiencing disconnections between the dock and the tablet. For me I have a 09/2013 build but fortunately everything works as it should

should i buy a one plus 3t? or wait for 5?

are you guys enjoying the 3t? worth every penny? will u upgrade to the next one plus this year? is it worth waiting?
As long as they continue to update the 3t the way they are, I'll be keeping mine for a while. Phone works great, looks great and I'm experiencing great battery life on the stock rom
I'm simply in love with mine. It has AMOLED display, hardware that secures future, good camera.
This can be told about many phones, but... Do they have so frequent software updates? Beta twice a month! Actually, developers are listening to people's opinions (obviously can't listen to everyone).
From what I've seen, many people who changed their phones from s7e/nexus to OP3T are really content with it.
Battery life is another great thing, it easily goes through a day and charges so quickly!
If you don't need a new phone urgently, you might as well wait for the next OnePlus phone. As much as we don't want to face it, OnePlus is likely going to put development for the 3/3T on the back-burner once the next generation of phones are released (looking at you, OP2). That said, the OP3/T is certainly an excellent device and worth its current price.
yeah its a killer phone. id get one. just did in fact.
Brian
I upgraded from the S7 edge to the 3t (like 2weeks ago) and I love this phone. Way ahead of the game, not a single particle of lag. That said, I will probably upgrade once the 5 comes out; as I love having the latest tech, but yeah. Getting this phone right now was worth it for me.
Upgraded from 6p and really like it!,
Just 2 features i really miss front stereo speakers and camera everything else is perfect for me
Best supported phone ive ever owned. Even with the nexus one, support from google still doesnt compare to oneplus.
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If you don't need a new phone urgently, you might as well wait for the next OnePlus phone. As much as we don't want to face it, OnePlus is likely going to put development for the 3/3T on the back-burner once the next generation of phones are released (looking at you, OP2). That said, the OP3/T is certainly an excellent device and worth its current price.
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Is that whats happened to oneplus 1 and 2?
Uhm, no idea.
I justified spending 400+ EUR on the 3T, because I thought at the time that I'm going to keep it for at least two years. And now I'm tempted to upgrade to the 5, because fsck yeah, this phone is awesome, can't wait for the next model. I'll just give this to someone in the family.
I looked to upgrade to something else but seriously - there's nothing else out there. It's at the top of it's game. Get it now, or if not in hurry for a few months. Wait.
Rumor
There is a rumor on OP 5 that it has a ceramic/glass back. Well if you don't wanna break it then...
Nothing official so.....
I still love the block type metal of the OP 3T so it is my ideal choice
When does one plus release its device?. Is it in August?..
egren58 said:
When does one plus release its device?. Is it in August?..
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It's all just rumor at this point. No announcement yet. And manufacturers usually don't tip their hand too early. Doing so would not only potentially damage the sales of the current device, but also may give their competition an edge.
I've seen some stories around that state that Samsung is buying up all the Snapdragon 835 supply. And being the Android market juggernaut, most (all?) other manufacturers are going to have to wait to get the 835. This alone may cause OnePlus to delay a launch.
The OP3T is amazing and I think OP5 will be even more. If you aren't in a hurry, would be nice to wait.
OP3t is a great device. Even if OP stops updates at nougat, the dev support will continue.
Look at the OPO, it has perfect nougat ROMs that are current. The OP3t will continue on with devs, cause it's a solid built device (as was the OPO). The OP2 had no nfc and the crap 810 cpu, and still solid on dev support.
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I upgraded from the S7 edge to the 3t (like 2weeks ago) and I love this phone. Way ahead of the game, not a single particle of lag. That said, I will probably upgrade once the 5 comes out; as I love having the latest tech, but yeah. Getting this phone right now was worth it for me.
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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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The Apostle said:
I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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I understand you haha. I was a little worried myself, as a lot of people hyped it "down" .
Honestly, Samsung has the best screens any phone manufacturer can have. Comparing both, I noticed that the colors looked better on the S7 edge, and that the S7's screen gets brighter. Are those deal breakers? Absolutely not. The screen is great and 1440 p is not different compared to 1080p .
It'll definitely take the screen downgrade for a absolutely lagfree device. It's been almost 2 weeks and not a single app, or animation has lagged. Also battery life is great. Damn I still feel like I'm not using this device to its full capabilities lol
With how things are going, they seem to have found the hardware they really love, so they're developing their software now. I think they want to love their software as much as their hardware, so they may be sticking with the 3t. Look how many special editions are coming out, they got an otterbox deal and they acrually ship on time now.
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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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If you want to use some vr hardware, then yes, 4k is better. Otherwise 1080p is faster to drive, and uses less power. So it's a trade-off.
I would get it definitely. Well i already did actually. Great phone I love it definitely worth the money and had a great supporting dev community. And if your worried about oneplus stopping updates it's no big deal cause there a lots of custom roms for this phone and there is a great community surrounding it.

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