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Nexus 4 disappointment

I have to say that i opened my new nexus this morning with excitement. The build quality and style of the phone is great.
That being said as soon as i turned it on i was really disappointed with the screen quality. The colours look washed out like a cheap budget TV in a sun drenched room. Next to an S3 it cant even compare. Side by side comparison with an S3 leaves the nexus looking awful. I put phasebeam live wallpaper on both phones and there really isnt a challenge from the nexus. The blue corner on the nexus is nearly white the colours are so far off. I tried another live wallpaper called Magic Smoke 3D and the blue areas on the S3 are nearly white on the Nexus. Blacks are almost grey too its really poor. I know the OLED vs LCD debate but i think this is more an issue of a very good OLED vs a very poor LCD or at least very poorly calibrated LCD. The Auto brightness is so dim its also useless and i have to set it manually. Its so bad that its dimmer than my OLED which is insane.
Battery life is a real issue. i had nothing of note installed on the phone and went from 74% down to 0 in less than a half days use.
The loud speaker is tinny and sounds pretty bad and the ear speaker is sounding very odd compared to other phones i own.
Stock android has some nice points which i can appreciate but its lacking in other areas which arent easy to live with. No battery percent is a real stupid omission and i know you can mod the phone up but seriously not being able to dial a phone number directly from an email is pretty poor. took me a while to get the copy and paste working to do it.
Whilst a few things are Goolges fault i squarely lay the blame at LG since i saw the Optimus G and i thought the screen was terrible on that also and the other hardware issues are down to cost cutting and lack of care when it comes to colour calibration.
This phone is worth every penny at £280 and thats all its worth. Its nowhere near as good a deal as i believed before i got it in the post this morning. Its certainly not a £400-£500 Phone. Since LG is a screen company its a real shame they screwed this one up so bad.
Its going back to Google on monday and ill think ill wait for the S4.

Maybe try to calibrate it. Mine came out of the box looking good. After some calibration it is not far from the best screen I've used. Also in bright rooms and sun the screen rocks. Maybe you got unlucky?
Also I can get up to 6 hours of screen time usually around 4 though worth heavier use so I cannot relate to this at all
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If you don't like it then just return it. This really isn't a difficult concept. However, for the price you paid you really can't argue about it.
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Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents

italia0101 said:
Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents
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I know about stock android but i never realised just how lacking stock android can be in areas. Whilst some complex stuff is included other simple stuff is missing. You really dont know whats missing until a feature that you might use every day on an S3 is just not there in Nexus. This isnt as much as a deal breaker as the screen though.
I really dont want true to life screen quality anyway. its a phone and not a window. I want the red green and blues to pop and amaze everytime i look. The contrast should be high and blacks should be dark. With my nexus i have Blue which is actually White! Black which is grey and washed out. I really think i must have a bad sample or maybe its because i have a comparison phone to put the screen against.

irzero said:
I know about stock android but i never realised just how lacking stock android can be in areas. Whilst some complex stuff is included other simple stuff is missing. You really dont know whats missing until a feature that you might use every day on an S3 is just not there in Nexus. This isnt as much as a deal breaker as the screen though.
I really dont want true to life screen quality anyway. its a phone and not a window. I want the red green and blues to pop and amaze everytime i look. The contrast should be high and blacks should be dark. With my nexus i have Blue which is actually White! Black which is grey and washed out. I really think i must have a bad sample or maybe its because i have a comparison phone to put the screen against.
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Fair enough, if thats how ya feel then thats how you feel

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italia0101 said:
Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents
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Totally agree with your answer, y asked a designer to choose which screen look better between the S3 and the Nexus 4, and she choose the nexus 4 because it has more realistic colors she said. I was a GSIII owner and I am not regreat about switching to the nexus 4.
Sorry about my english.

Just ordered mine last night. I too have an s3 right now.
I hope I'm not too disappointed.
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/Waaaaaaa
I mean really....

As someone who had an S3, went to a N4, then went back to an S3 I noticed the following things after going back to the S3:
The S3's screen is nowhere near as sharp as the Nexus 4's. I never thought the difference between pentile and non pentile was big, but it is. Text is far clearer. Colours between the two are preference. I like the pop of the S3s screen.
The S3 is a slow phone. The Nexus 4 craps on it for UI speed.
The Nexus is a beautiful device. It feels really nice in the hand and feels very high end.
The Nexus battery life is rubbish. I do not understand how people are getting 5 hours of on screen time - maybe they have everything turned off. I like to have wifi, gps, BT, 3g all turned on all the time and the Nexus 4 would barely get me through a day. The S3 easily does it and also has the option of spare battery. Also when gaming on the Nexus the battery goes down a % a minute at least. I played sworcery for 20 mins and my battery had gone from 80 to 50something%!
The Nexus 4 gets HOT during demanding gaming. Like, really hot. Changing the kernel fixed this - I don't know how.
I also missed the swipe left/right to call/message from touchwiz.
Stock android quick toggles, whilst looking really good aren't useful at all. All they do is take you to the settings menu.
I think that on screen buttons are far nicer and the back button being on the LEFT is the right place.
Forgot to add - The main reason I switched back was because of the Camera. It is ASS! Just take a look at the photo thread on these very forums for proof. Also lacks burst mode which is a bit annoying. It also took longer to render HDRs and they weren't that great. A lot of people think it's good because they came from a Galaxy Nexus , which had a mid 2010 5MP shooter in it.

I was a s3 user but I do like the nexus 4 color
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I think the display is worse on the SGIII.
iPhone 5 for example uses Sharp IPS LCD panels and have won many tests against SGIII in terms of display quality and the Nexus 4 uses a newer and better display - though the IPS panel made by LG.
Or perhaps you just like oversaturated colors and the blueish tint that you get from OLED.
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm

spoonboy said:
As someone who had an S3, went to a N4, then went back to an S3 I noticed the following things after going back to the S3:
The S3's screen is nowhere near as sharp as the Nexus 4's. I never thought the difference between pentile and non pentile was big, but it is. Text is far clearer. Colours between the two are preference. I like the pop of the S3s screen.
The S3 is a slow phone. The Nexus 4 craps on it for UI speed.
The Nexus battery life is rubbish. I do not understand how people are getting 5 hours of on screen time - maybe they have everything turned off. I like to have wifi, gps, BT, 3g all turned on all the time and the Nexus 4 would barely get me through a day. The S3 easily does it and also has the option of spare battery. Also when gaming on the Nexus the battery goes down a % a minute at least. I played sworcery for 20 mins and my battery had gone from 80 to 50something%!
The Nexus 4 gets HOT during demanding gaming. Like, really hot. Changing the kernel fixed this - I don't know how.
Stock android quick toggles, whilst looking really good aren't useful at all. All they do is take you to the settings menu.
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Interesting points, but yes the s3 definitely has better battery life than the nexus, unfortunately that is something the nexus isnt good at. But its the fastest android phone, maybe the optimus g as well? I dont know but the nexus is ridiculously fast. Im confident that future android updates will adress those battery issues. In the mean time there are great roms and kernels that give extra juice like franco's kernel or matrix kernel.
I also missed the swipe left/right to call/message from touchwiz.

I agree on the screen, washed out and viewing angles are horrible.

italia0101 said:
Couldnt disagree more with the OP ,
but everyone's allowed an opinion .... I think the screen is fantastic and sharp, the S3 imo is oversaturated, and some professionals have said the colours are much truer to life than the S3s , and like @hewettBR said , you could calibrate it to pretty much do anything ya wanted ..
Im a little confused, did you not know what you were getting with stock android? its stock, bone, clean, if you dont like it maybe try a custom rom?
Also the battery life on my device has been fine, gets me through a days usage with 30% left and 3 hours of screen on time, no problem what so ever. also some custom kernels people have got 5-6 hours of screen on time
Just my 2 cents
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spoonboy said:
As someone who had an S3, went to a N4, then went back to an S3 I noticed the following things after going back to the S3:
The S3's screen is nowhere near as sharp as the Nexus 4's. I never thought the difference between pentile and non pentile was big, but it is. Text is far clearer. Colours between the two are preference. I like the pop of the S3s screen.
The S3 is a slow phone. The Nexus 4 craps on it for UI speed.
The Nexus battery life is rubbish. I do not understand how people are getting 5 hours of on screen time - maybe they have everything turned off. I like to have wifi, gps, BT, 3g all turned on all the time and the Nexus 4 would barely get me through a day. The S3 easily does it and also has the option of spare battery. Also when gaming on the Nexus the battery goes down a % a minute at least. I played sworcery for 20 mins and my battery had gone from 80 to 50something%!
The Nexus 4 gets HOT during demanding gaming. Like, really hot. Changing the kernel fixed this - I don't know how.
I also missed the swipe left/right to call/message from touchwiz.
Stock android quick toggles, whilst looking really good aren't useful at all. All they do is take you to the settings menu.
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I agree on the sharp screen of the Nexus but thats LCD tech and any LCD with 300+ PPI gives that.
My S3 isnt slow though? i tend to use Omega Rom which is rapid. Its easily on par with nexus.
The 400 PPI S4 looks to be the phone for me that will give the sharp text

Dear soon-to-return-nexus-4-users,
You realize the Nexus phone, or any Nexus phone, runs Android WITHOUT any 3rd party skin/addon/UI/etc...?
Yes?
OK. Then Why you ***** about a certain feature exist in a certain 3rd party skin/addon/UI/etc... not available in plain Android?
Next, you should also realize that the pro of owning a Nexus phone is not only about getting updates faster, It's also about the development of Custom ROM/Kernels.
So if you buy a Nexus phone and expect to use it like S3 (i.e. without tinkering the device), you are buying it wrong and I do, REALLY do suggest you return it and go back to your TouchWiz phones.
Later.

it's true google calibration is a bit washed out and weak out of the box
but..
1) let the glue dry and screen burn in for a week or two
2) you can make the colours burn your eyes out with gamma control kernels if you want

irzero said:
The 400 PPI S4 looks to be the phone for me that will give the sharp text
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You won't be able to tell the differences under normal usage conditions. Trust me.
And I can already forsee tons of website will use magnifiers to tell you how small the pixels are and how sharp things are.

Let the glue dry?

richteralan said:
You won't be able to tell the differences under normal usage conditions. Trust me.
And I can already forsee tons of website will use magnifiers to tell you how small the pixels are and how sharp things are.
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Complete waste of phone battery and processing power IMO - why the **** would you want 400PPI when you can't even see the difference!
And no damn website would ever use 400PPI images - simply because they would be HUGE in size.
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ferris2375 said:
Let the glue dry?
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Sarcasm i think.

Soo... How is it?

Long story short, att messed up and ended up crediting me the price of my upgrade ($220) and pushing up my upgrade to eligible.
Ive had my eye on the one since it first was rumored but haven't heard much from people who actually have it.
Soo.... How is it? Should i use my newly obtained upgrade for this or should i wait it out some..
Two in the Pink
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See what people think.

Excellent, I've not regretted choosing it - it's all I wanted.
I've upgraded from a Sammy S2. My primary phone usage is actually as a media player... A bit of on demand telly, but mostly listening to mp3s at work, and podcasts when I'm having a soak in the bath or lazing around at home.
The stereo speakers make such a difference, as does the Beats processing. It's a world away from the tinny output of the Samsung (which was in most other aspects an excellent phone, especially when I had Cyanogen on it to freshen it up)
Build quality is excellent, it really does feel great. Still not quite as impressive as an iPhone 4 though, but the best of the rest.
The screen is pin sharp. I'd like the automatic brightness to be biased a little brighter though (or customisable)
The Ui is truly butter smooth (Xperia z I tried in the shop was a lag-fest and very disappointing in comparison)
Blink feed is actually pretty good. I've always used Taptu for my news feed. Blink is allegedly going to be improved in the future.. It won't take much improvement to supplant Taptu entirely.
I've barely scratched the surface of Zoe, but it's impressed me so far. I've not even tried the Highlight options yet.
The camera seems to take good pictures, especially in low light... The flash hasn't kicked in for me yet!
Sense 5 is well designed, it looks good. I like the way the app drawer contents can be viewed in multiple ways and a custom view set up.
The phone must be powerful - it seems to play Real Racing 3 as well as my iPad - very impressive!
Battery life has seemed good, it doesn't eat battery on standby, but does during heavy use.. Which is understandable. I don't think I have enough experience to really say if it's good or bad compared to other phones, but its not died unexpectedly on me.
The phone seems stable... No crashes or lockups... Pretty good for such a new phone?
My gripes?
The phone got very, very hot when using Navigation whilst charging, with satellite image layer turned on.
I miss the menu button. and the Sammys physically clickable home button.. a bit.
I'd like the back and home buttons to be permanently lit, they don't show in bright or medium lighting.
I summary, yes I'd definitely buy this again if I had the choice

This is my third Android phone, previously owned Desire HD, One X (Tegra 3 - international version).
Only had One for two weeks, but so far really happy with it, no problems with build quality or functions.
Would go as far as to say it's the best phone I've owned.
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i love my htc one. I picked it up a week ago. I've had iphones for the passed 4 years and didnt fancy the 5.
I went in to pick up an xperia z, but changed my mind for the one.
Ive used it more or less constantly since I got it, it has not crashed once, its fantastic.
I wasnt sure after ios for so long Id get on with it, but I love it. Il list why,
The speakers are fantastic, it really sounds great. The music player is impressive
The camera takes nice looking photos, the colours seem perfect. Theres alot to the camera I havent played with yet.
Everything is lag free, not just lag free, but impressively fast.
Blinkfeed is quite nice, although when I grab my phone to do something I end end up reading interesting news instead
I like android a lot more than I though I would.
Its an amazing phone. Hard to put it down. I looked through all the available phones, to me it was the winner, it is beautiful
The screen is just awesome.
Battery life has been good, it lasts as long as youd expect it to.
Sorry if i sound like a htc one sales man. its a lovely phone. Get one
Jas

One word, awesome!!! That is all
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It rocks! Best phone I've had (coming from a Sensation)
Great battery life
Incredible camera
Beautiful design
Smooth & fast
There is a lot more to it but those are the winning points for me!

Best phone i've ever had.
One massive thing i've noticed with the camera is that you don't have to stay super still for shots. The shutter is so fast i think it's the first phone i've ever come across with a LED flash that actually competes with cameras that have a xenon flash.
I went out last night and each picture i took in a low lit pub was superb, genuinely amazed at the camera and its quickness.
The Boomsound is awesome, the phone is so fast, the camera is great and the screen is A class. Literally the best phone i've ever had and the best purchase i've made in a long time.
I am soooo chuffed i got this and not the Z ( just for its waterproof feature ) which id probably never use.

I think the only thing that worries me is the battery life, is it atleast in the 8hr range with moderate to heavy use?
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MrPlNK said:
I think the only thing that worries me is the battery life, is it atleast in the 8hr range with moderate to heavy use?
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Hmmm, tricky to say - I've not spent more than an hour in one go where I've used the phone heavily (constantly browsing / watching video / downloading apps etc), but haven't been within reach of a charger and a power point. My Sammy S2 often ate battery even when in standby so I bought extra chargers and distributed them around the house
However... my experience of checking the battery usage graph when it's unplugged is that
1) the line is nicely horizontal when in standby
2) the line doesn't resemble a cliff when the screen is on and I'm doing something.
If you want some rather more scientific results, best check the reviews... I recommend the Anandtech review here. It's a great piece of tech writing

RostokMcSpoons said:
Excellent, I've not regretted choosing it - it's all I wanted.
I've upgraded from a Sammy S2. My primary phone usage is actually as a media player... A bit of on demand telly, but mostly listening to mp3s at work, and podcasts when I'm having a soak in the bath or lazing around at home.
The stereo speakers make such a difference, as does the Beats processing. It's a world away from the tinny output of the Samsung (which was in most other aspects an excellent phone, especially when I had Cyanogen on it to freshen it up)
Build quality is excellent, it really does feel great. Still not quite as impressive as an iPhone 4 though, but the best of the rest.
The screen is pin sharp. I'd like the automatic brightness to be biased a little brighter though (or customisable)
The Ui is truly butter smooth (Xperia z I tried in the shop was a lag-fest and very disappointing in comparison)
Blink feed is actually pretty good. I've always used Taptu for my news feed. Blink is allegedly going to be improved in the future.. It won't take much improvement to supplant Taptu entirely.
I've barely scratched the surface of Zoe, but it's impressed me so far. I've not even tried the Highlight options yet.
The camera seems to take good pictures, especially in low light... The flash hasn't kicked in for me yet!
Sense 5 is well designed, it looks good. I like the way the app drawer contents can be viewed in multiple ways and a custom view set up.
The phone must be powerful - it seems to play Real Racing 3 as well as my iPad - very impressive!
Battery life has seemed good, it doesn't eat battery on standby, but does during heavy use.. Which is understandable. I don't think I have enough experience to really say if it's good or bad compared to other phones, but its not died unexpectedly on me.
The phone seems stable... No crashes or lockups... Pretty good for such a new phone?
My gripes?
The phone got very, very hot when using Navigation whilst charging, with satellite image layer turned on.
I miss the menu button. and the Sammys physically clickable home button.. a bit.
I'd like the back and home buttons to be permanently lit, they don't show in bright or medium lighting.
I summary, yes I'd definitely buy this again if I had the choice
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The Xperia Z, a lag fest? Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel comfortable with your purchase.
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Can't really fault it too be honest, still in a love/hate relationship with blinkfeed but other than that it's not skipped a bit, zero lag and everything is super smooth no matter what you throw at it.
Minor gripe is that htc really do need to put back in the option for long press back for menu.
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@zodiac100 Why do you feel the need to defend every last bit about the Z are you that insecure that you feel the need to police the HTC One forums looking for anyone stating anything bad about your beloved phone?

[/COLOR]@zodiac100 Why do you feel the need to defend every last bit about the Z are you that insecure that you feel the need to police the HTC One forums looking for anyone stating anything bad about your beloved phone?[/QUOTE]
+1
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zodiac100 said:
The Xperia Z, a lag fest? Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel comfortable with your purchase.
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I was actually going to buy an Xperia Z as the idea of a waterproof phone really appealed to me (listening to podcasts in the bath). But I was sorely disappointed when I tried the Z in a couple of shops the scrolling between home screens noticeably hiccuped. Now, sure, I don't know what the rest of the phone is like, but that was enough to put me off straight away. After all if the software isn't smooth on something like that, hopes aren't going to be high about the rest of the phone. The One is smooth everywhere.
I suspect the only person telling themselves anything to keep themselves happy with their purchase is you, but it's no skin off my nose...
Edit: in retrospect 'lag-fest' in my previous post was a poor choice of words - an exaggeration. But it did, to some extent, reflect my initial impression of the phone. Perhaps, to nick the tag line of a fast food outlet,"where's the butter?" would do the trick.

Are there differences between the variants? Like will there be att, sprint, tmobile, and international development or is it all gonna be together?
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There will be variants for different radio types (CDMA vs GSM) and LTE bands. The dev edition is aimed at ATT, and I don't think will fully support T-Mobile (I don't remember seeing 1700 in the specs). Best to check compatibility before buying.

Large Hadron said:
There will be variants for different radio types (CDMA vs GSM) and LTE bands. The dev edition is aimed at ATT, and I don't think will fully support T-Mobile (I don't remember seeing 1700 in the specs). Best to check compatibility before buying.
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Great I'm buying the AT&T variant, they told me they may have them in stock today?
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First Day with Nexus 5 -- my impressions

I was lucky enough to get my Nexus 5 earlier today. Here are my first impressions. Please share yours!
My first thought was, when compared to my Nexus 4, is that the Nexus 5 is really light! Almost too light in my opinion.
The screen is beautiful. Its crisp and big. While the bezels are small, its not LG G2 small. Which disappointed me a bit. I'm pinning for an actual "edge to edge" display.
The soft rubber grip and slightly contoured back makes the phone feel better in the hand than my Nexus 4 did. Holding the phone almost feels like holding the Droid DNA a bit. But smaller.
The touch screen is a lot more sensitive than the Nexus 4. And the xda app likes to crash under kit Kat :-/
I'm annoyed at the IMEI sticker on the back. I feel like its going to peel away in a few days.
It doesn't torque in your hands like a cheap Samsung galaxy S3/S4. The build quality feels great. Almost like an HTC phone.
I would much rather have a metal band around the outside instead of rubberized plastic, but that's just me.
The Nexus 5 fits nicely on the Nexus 4 charging orb. When placing it on the orb, the bottom of the Nexus 5 rests on the countertop. No random phone slide offs like the Nexus 4,
Kit Kat is FAST! The keyboard is great. Probably due a lot to a much more responsive screen.
Most apps are working fine...but xda app crashes a lot. I suppose that's to be expected.
The battery life seems okay. I always am placing my phone on a charger, so I can't say I'm that great of a judge of battery life.
LTE performance with T-Mobile is the same between Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. I'm planning on switching back to sprint tomorrow....I had sprint for a few years. I went from the Evo LTE to the Nexus 4 on T-Mobile.
The camera...I'm a bit unimpressed so far. I was expecting a fast burst style. Like I had on my Evo LTE. Trying to take pictures of a 19 month old is tricky. I had a bunch of blurred photos.
Those are my day 1 impressions. What's everyone else's?
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The imei sticker is supposed to be removed.

sounds about good , my only concern is the battery life , there are many threads about this with some contradictory info .

difyel said:
sounds about good , my only concern is the battery life , there are many threads about this with some contradictory info .
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It's all different because everyone uses their phone differently. You can't judge how good your battery life will be based off of how someone else uses their phone. Wait for yours to come in and try it out.. it's the only way to figure it out for yourself :good:

Honestly, I am pretty disappointed Perhaps it is just my unit but the bottom left corner, where the phone rests naturally in my palm, is rather sharp and already I stopped playing with it because my hand got uncomfortable. Furthermore, I am really really missing the plastic buttons on the Nexus 4. They were smooth, soft and comfortable to rest my fingers on. These ceramic buttons have very sharp edges and the volume button, which I tend to rest my fingers on, feels really uncomfortable to me like it is going to cut my finger. These words are way too harsh but not inaccurate. Am I alone on this?
Cozmo85 said:
The imei sticker is supposed to be removed.
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How? It seems pretty well stuck on there.. I don't want to start scratching at it to get it off only to find it wasn't supposed to be removed and leaves a nasty residue or even worse scratches the plastic.

Good to know about the camera. I have an 18 month and I was worried about the photo quality. Aosp ROMs always had blurry pics while TW camera on my Note 3 manages to get great shots with motion. I haven't taken my N5 out of the box yet, as I have someone wanting to trade me an LG G2 for it. This just confirms that I'm going to do that trade!
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msponsler said:
And the xda app likes to crash under kit Kat :-/
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I had a couple app issues too. Taptu borked when I first installed and I had to reboot the phone.
It will take a few weeks for developers to get their app 4.4 compatible

I feel a little disappointed. I went from a Nexus 4 to this and I guess I'm having trouble seeing past the amazing that the jump from a GNEX to a Nexus 4 was. I like the bigger screen and the overall lightness. Battery is to be determine. I might be imagining this, but I feel the speakers on the Nexus 4 are much better. The back speaker is much louder and clear and the front is much clearer as well. Anyone else feel this way? Maybe I haven't spent enough time with the Nexus 5 to fully appreciate everything and maybe the introduction of custom roms will help.

iDoc21 said:
Good to know about the camera. I have an 18 month and I was worried about the photo quality. Aosp ROMs always had blurry pics while TW camera on my Note 3 manages to get great shots with motion. I haven't taken my N5 out of the box yet, as I have someone wanting to trade me an LG G2 for it. This just confirms that I'm going to do that trade!
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Yea... but from what a lot of people are saying, the G2's camera isn't all rainbows and unicorns, either.

It may not be kit kat causing the crashes. XDA for me lately has been crashing all the time. It seems like some posts I can't click on with out it crashing while others work just fine. Just an FYI. And this is with a S4 running CM10.2
Thanks for the review.
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xda has been crashing on my s4 recently

twoeleven99 said:
xda has been crashing on my s4 recently
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My HTC One also, just since yesterday.
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Please could you do a simple Touchscreen+Audio Latency test? So many reviews appearing around the web but none have tested Latency. Apparently the touchscreen on the Nexus 5 is pretty good so I hope it performs well.
For the people interested in the Nexus 5 for realtime music creation this is info we desperately need.
Anyway here is how to do a simple test:
Install a musical app, either drumming or keyboard.
Install a sound recording app,
Start recording audio and give the screen a good tap in the musical app, this way both the "tap" and resulting drum or keyboard sound will get recorded.
Open that saved .wav up in audacity then zoom in and observe the visual audio waveforms then measure the distance between the TAP and the sound actually playing using the timeline.
On my devices I was getting around 175ms if the particular music app used the "Sound Pool" class or 250+ if using "Audio Track" I'm running android 4.2. Anything under 100ms would start to be useful anything under 50ms would be amazing given googles track record in this area.

ianmere said:
Please could you do a simple Touchscreen+Audio Latency test? So many reviews appearing around the web but none have tested Latency. Apparently the touchscreen on the Nexus 5 is pretty good so I hope it performs well.
For the people interested in the Nexus 5 for realtime music creation this is info we desperately need.
Anyway here is how to do a simple test:
Install a musical app, either drumming or keyboard.
Install a sound recording app,
Start recording audio and give the screen a good tap in the musical app, this way both the "tap" and resulting drum or keyboard sound will get recorded.
Open that saved .wav up in audacity then zoom in and observe the visual audio waveforms then measure the distance between the TAP and the sound actually playing using the timeline.
On my devices I was getting around 175ms if the particular music app used the "Sound Pool" class or 250+ if using "Audio Track" I'm running android 4.2. Anything under 100ms would start to be useful anything under 50ms would be amazing given googles track record in this area.
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I did this...not sure if I did it correctly. I've uploaded a pic and the .wav file for you to look at. I'm not this granular about the sound/feedback! The .png pic file is a zoom in of the tap and the actual music playing.
Attached the .png of audacity (picked it best I could) and the .wav file in a .zip file (stupid xda attachment restrictions!)

iDoc21 said:
Good to know about the camera. I have an 18 month and I was worried about the photo quality. Aosp ROMs always had blurry pics while TW camera on my Note 3 manages to get great shots with motion. I haven't taken my N5 out of the box yet, as I have someone wanting to trade me an LG G2 for it. This just confirms that I'm going to do that trade!
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For camera, I'd go Sony Xperia Z / Sony Xperia Z1 (mini) or HTC One.
My wife is still using an HTC Evo 4G LTE (HTC One X version for Sprint) and the pictures are really good off of that phone. She gets great pics of our 19 month old with that phone.
I don't know that LG G2 camera would beat any of the three phones i mentioned above.

Carver1 said:
It's all different because everyone uses their phone differently. You can't judge how good your battery life will be based off of how someone else uses their phone. Wait for yours to come in and try it out.. it's the only way to figure it out for yourself :good:
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Lol you sure it wasn't me?! We're both in the same city and i've been hitting people up. Who knows
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msponsler said:
I did this...not sure if I did it correctly. I've uploaded a pic and the .wav file for you to look at. I'm not this granular about the sound/feedback! The .png pic file is a zoom in of the tap and the actual music playing.
Attached the .png of audacity (picked it best I could) and the .wav file in a .zip file (stupid xda attachment restrictions!)
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Thanks so much!!, that has provided us with some very good info, your test was perfect, I could clearly hear and see the TAP's and the resulting notes. All you had to do it zoom in audacity to see the waveforms and make the measurements.
I also had a audio file from a Xperia Z1, so I put them head to head:
The results of total latency (Touchscreen+Audio) :
Xperia Z1 android 4.3 180ms
Nexus 5 android 4.4 102ms
One question, what application did you use? There are two popular ways to playback sound, one is OpenSL ES audio, another is SoundPool,
for OpenSL ES audio you can use the app called "Music Synthesizer for Android" it is made my someone working at Google they have made all the optimizations to playback sound as fast as possible, or you could try my app haha: "Tablet Drums" at the moment I'm using "SoundPool" I will swap to OpenSL ES audio too if the results are better.
Anyway thanks very much the results are good enough to persuade me to purchase a nexus 5 too.

Just got the phone today and the experience is not good so far... Came from the N4 and I do think this is a let down.
1. The back sticker? Seriously, Google?
2. The icons are so big. Maybe its normal for all 5" inch phones, but looks not normal to me. They look stretched.
3. What was the fuzz about the KitKat? Was that really needed? All I see is a few updated apps.
4. The display looks bad. Worse viewing angles than on the N4 and blacks as well. Everything looks washed out on it.
5. I purchased the OEM bumper and that's a total Google ripoff. Feels more like a $19.99 product, but definitely not the $34.99. The phone looks good in hand, but once you put it into a bumper it kills it. Makes the phone bulky as hell.
6. The speaker. It does the job, but it goes through the whole phone.
7. I don't care about the spec, the N5 basically brings nothing on the table except for the LTE support that was needed. Glad Google didn't hold the event, otherwise would have been a disaster.

For all those experiencing bad screen compared to nexus 4, the nexus 5 screen is uncalibrated, or calibrated poorly. Faux said that kernel rgb control should be possible, so it shouldn't be much longer until we get better picture. BTW, I think the actual LCD panel inside of this is very similar, if not the same, as the G2. Its just the calibration and software saturation LG implemented on the G2 to make it look like that.
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cipsaz said:
Just got the phone today and the experience is not good so far... Came from the N4 and I do think this is a let down.
1. The back sticker? Seriously, Google?
2. The icons are so big. Maybe its normal for all 5" inch phones, but looks not normal to me. They look stretched.
3. What was the fuzz about the KitKat? Was that really needed? All I see is a few updated apps.
4. The display looks bad. Worse viewing angles than on the N4 and blacks as well. Everything looks washed out on it.
5. I purchased the OEM bumper and that's a total Google ripoff. Feels more like a $19.99 product, but definitely not the $34.99. The phone looks good in hand, but once you put it into a bumper it kills it. Makes the phone bulky as hell.
6. The speaker. It does the job, but it goes through the whole phone.
7. I don't care about the spec, the N5 basically brings nothing on the table except for the LTE support that was needed. Glad Google didn't hold the event, otherwise would have been a disaster.
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1. What's wrong with that sticker? Do you guys leave it on the phone? Just peel it off!
2. Use a custom launcher.
3. When you just see "a few updated apps" then you didn't really use KitKat yet.
4. Perhaps I am lucky but my display is great. I don't check viewing angles... who looks on his phone from the side. Other than that I really like the colours.
7. If you don't care about specs then why did you get the N5 anyways?
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What you personally like or dislike about your Nexus 5

Nexus 5 is the best smartphone I ever had but there are some things I don't like in it.
Cons:
1. Battery life is the first one. Switching from Note II to the Nexus 5 (thanks to Mike) really made a difference on the battery life.
2. Camera app is so slow and needs a lot of improvements. (Google is working on it)
3. This one is very minor but i will say it, are the glossy bezel on the white variant. I would prefer it to be just like on the black one.
Pros:
1. FAST, I mean really fast
2. Great support here on XDA :good:
3. Other then those 3 cons love this phone!
So guys and girls, what do you love/hate about your Nexus 5?

Cons:
Dust / dirt gets trapped around the bezel
Nexus X on back not coloured in
Pros:
Fast
Great battery life
Good multitasking
Nice feel
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It gets amazing battery life for only being 2300. I'm getting around 5 hours heavy usage but I don't use syncing and I have strong lte and WiFi wherever I go.
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It gets amazing battery life for only being 2300. I'm getting around 5 hours heavy usage but I don't use syncing and I have strong lte and WiFi wherever I go.
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Most of the time I use 3G and I had never reached 4 hours SOT....sync OFF and manual screen brightness around 15-25%.

rootSU said:
Cons:
Dust / dirt gets trapped around the bezel
Nexus X on back not coloured in
Pros:
Fast
Great battery life
Good multitasking
Nice feel
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Was gonna mention that exact thing it's soo damn annoying! ><

on my galaxy nexus if i erased by factory reset i still have my things on my internal storage ...i just found out (the Hard Way) that it is not the same on the nexus 5 when you do a factory reset on this bad boy it takes EVERTHING off .....but other than that the phone is great love it and glad to have one.......

Same as the guy above me, I had GNex and whenever I factory cleared it, the photos would stay on. Not so with Nexus 5, other then that it's an amazing device.
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My two biggest complaints are the godawful screen and terrible speaker placement. If it had a better screen, I'd probably actually use it, but it's been pretty much collecting dust since I got it. Already filed an RMA with Google, I have to send it back by tomorrow if I'm going to, but I'm still undecided on what I'm going to do.

****ty camera and power/volume buttons directly opposite each other so I'm constantly changing the volume whenever I try to power on the screen
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Love the screen
Love the GPS accuracy and speed
Love the speed and snappy feel of the phone
Love "Ok Google"
Like the battery
Like the build quality and overall asthetics
Sorta like the camera
Wish the speaker was a little louder
I could have bought a mint condition GS4 for less than what I paid for this phone. I feel like I made the right choice.

Pluses:
- Speed
- fluidity (the most fluid android device)
- Amazing display
- Great design
- Kitkat with Google launcher experience
Minuses:
- speaker
In between:
- Battery life is decent
- Camera is good enough
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The only thing I wish is if they could have cut down the bottom bezel and lower the over all foot print its not to big for me I just love the way the moto x feels
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Have all the same pros as everyone else. My only con has been getting used to the earpiece, I seem to hunt for it almost every time I get a call.
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Pros:
Nexus, so easy root and lots of devs
Fast
Thin
Looks good
Good battery life
Beautiful display
Light
KitKat
Small bezel
Con's:
Recents button is laggy on dalvik
Glossy sides on white
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I really love:
* the snapdrangon 800
* screen SIZE
* design
* call quality
* finally LTE!!!!!!!
* new Google now/ "OK Google"
I dislike:
# the screen quality
# speaker placement and quality
# camera
Overall its a great device. And for the unlocked price its unbeatable by anything else on the market... Except maybe motoG???:what:
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Came from a Galaxy Note 2 and not looking back.
Pros
Beautiful screen
KitKat
Decent battery life
Developer support
Wireless charging out the box
Unlocked phone
Cons
No micro SD
Speakers
Slow camera (pics aren't that bad)
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mr_mojorisen said:
Love the screen
Love the GPS accuracy and speed
Love the speed and snappy feel of the phone
Love "Ok Google"
Like the battery
Like the build quality and overall asthetics
Sorta like the camera
Wish the speaker was a little louder
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Agreed with you exactly. so I decided to just quote you. The speaker was expected to be worse than my HTC One, but I did expect it to be as good as a Samsung speaker.. My Wife's Note 2 is amazing, even though it is rear mounted. The speaker for the N5 seems limited.. I am not confident that any software update will make any dramatic improvements. For watching news clips or youtube, it'll do. But, it does seem cheap and dull.
After settling in, I like the fact that it is lighter and has a larger screen in roughly the same size as the One. Besides the speaker quality, which I can handle, I do not regret the change.
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I get about ~30 hours with light usage for a few calls and checking news and few short videos on youtube. My signal is not the best when at work.. and it seems to make it worse to go back and forth from LTE to 3g alot.
I use an app that has worked well in my past devices called 2x battery. Does anyone else use battery mgnt apps? Is it better to leave KitKat alone and do apps like 2x battery only provide a placebo effect?

No Imessage.
Bad camera.
Twitter app feels weird.
No emoji support on native keyboard.
Everything else is amazing
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@Shark_On_Land iMessage is so glitchy anyways, I'm always shocked when iFans try to brag about it. As for Twitter, take that up with them, that's not Android's fault. I am, however, assuming you came from an iPhone, so welcome to the bright side of the world
Otherwise, I can concur with the dust being annoying. I have the Spigen Slim Armor and every time I take it off I have to clean the dust out.
My only other question for @frarredo and @_MetalHead_ is how can you possibly complain about the screen quality? At 445 ppi and full 1080p I don't think you're even allowed to do that...

Really, really dislike the horrible battery life.
That is all.
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First impressions

Hi guys,
just received this phone for a test.
Phone is really great, filling in hand is awesome and you lose the feel about its size after few minutes. Phone is fast, maybe not fast as Nexus 5 which I have also because LG put really a lot bloatware, but it is extremely fast. Battery is also great for now, but I have been using it for today only. We will see in few days that.
Besides good things screen is bad. You can see the noise and its really annoying. I could say this is the only disadvantage at this point.

turn the brightness up to 70+ and screen noise goes away.battery is the best on any phone out there

Congrats but if everyone makes a thread on first impressions it's going to be a mess up n here. lol

DelBoy said:
Hi guys,
just received this phone for a test.
Phone is really great, filling in hand is awesome and you lose the feel about its size after few minutes. Phone is fast, maybe not fast as Nexus 5 which I have also because LG put really a lot bloatware, but it is extremely fast. Battery is also great for now, but I have been using it for today only. We will see in few days that.
Besides good things screen is bad. You can see the noise and its really annoying. I could say this is the only disadvantage at this point.
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Also the screen noise seems to greatly diminish after a few days...

or, your eyes adjust to it

The hasn't been really bad for me.
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Yes, it not notable in daily use outside, but only at home and in office where I am more focused on phone and on screen.
But it is particulary notable when watchig movies. But you adapt to it of course. Human is designed to adapt.
One minus on screen is ghosting or how you call it. Example, you are on homescreen and you enter in some dark app you can see the shadows of icons in background for five second aprox. Or skipping fast between apps also show this effect sometimes.
Besides this issues with screen, there is no issues. Phone is great, rock solid build. Would say awesome.
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DelBoy said:
Yes, it not notable in daily use outside, but only at home and in office where I am more focused on phone and on screen.
But it is particulary notable when watchig movies. But you adapt to it of course. Human is designed to adapt.
One minus on screen is ghosting or how you call it. Example, you are on homescreen and you enter in some dark app you can see the shadows of icons in background for five second aprox. Or skipping fast between apps also show this effect sometimes.
Besides this issues with screen, there is no issues. Phone is great, rock solid build. Would say awesome.
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I feel exactly the same after playing with one in the store for a while. The grainy look doesn't bother me and if you turn up the brightness it goes away. The ghosting is what really got me. I loved everything about the phone but that ghosting I couldn't handle. I'm going to wait for the G Flex 2, this phone is almost perfect so if they fix the minor issues with the screen and don't screw anything else up the G Flex 2 will be my next phone.

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