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Well... we are really grateful for this new Motorola been so attentive with us in order to provide the Kit Kat as fast as a Nexus device. But...
... as I'm reading about 4.4.1 and 4.4.2, these updates are major bug hunters, and not only a camera fix as "Google" says.
So, are Motorola working to implement this minor for us? Does anyone have an idea about it or can ask to Moto Care if there is any attempt from Moto about it?
The help desk from Moto here in Brazil is one step behind from US one cause we are partially receiving 4.4 by these days, so if 4.4 is something new to then to handle, imagine 4.4.2.
I made some research on news but unsuccessful.
This is likely why most other companies don't rush to release a new version of Android. They will go through all the effort of packaging, testing and releasing only to be screwed by Google a week later with a new update. I doubt the carriers like it either, as they like to test stuff.
Once something has been out for a bit and the major bugs are dealt with then it would be much easier to release. This is a bit of a flaw in how Google's android model works.
It would be much more ideal for Motorola to have adopted the Apple model where they release a new build and don't really care much what the carrier thinks.
I am sure someone at Motorola is already working with 4.4.2 but considering the number of carriers that don't have 4.4 yet it is hard to say what they will do. Maybe they will hold off on them and switch to a 4.4.2 build for the ones who haven't received 4.4 yet.
To keep up with the new android releases, the bloatware some carriers insist upon, builds for the different hardware models and then a huge number of different carriers must be quite the fun project to manage.
I heard that the 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 updates only had fixes for the nexuses devices and wont be pushed to any other kit kat devices
Kit kat blows. That's my scientific analysis. Doesn't matter what device section you go to.... You will read about a lot of bugs. They "almost" squashed flash. It locks some brands boot loaders... From what I recall. They are trying to stop root. They are trying to stop 3rd party battery analysis apps.... Etc... Etc. Basically they seem to be trying to squash development.... Oh... Unless you buy a special developer model of a brand. Lol
Anyway.... My point is... 4.4 is awful. Let's hope they do a better job with 5.0. And they stop leaning toward the apple philosophy of not letting people "play" with their phones.
Every device section I follow has threads about kit kat... And when will they get it. Then when they do, theirs tonnes of negative threads about it.
4.2.2.....the last best version. At this point.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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I'll add.... The carriers play a big part in these shenanigans I'm sure.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
dobbs3x said:
I heard that the 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 updates only had fixes for the nexuses devices and wont be pushed to any other kit kat devices
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Not really... 4.4.1 was a big update regarding KitKat performance and bugfixes...
You can check the commits to see that they've changed A LOT of stuff in Android framework...
We definitely MUST have the 4.4.2 update... 4.4 is a bit laggy... 4.2.2 was much more stable...
kj2112 said:
Kit kat blows. That's my scientific analysis. Doesn't matter what device section you go to.... You will read about a lot of bugs. They "almost" squashed flash. It locks some brands boot loaders... From what I recall. They are trying to stop root. They are trying to stop 3rd party battery analysis apps.... Etc... Etc. Basically they seem to be trying to squash development.... Oh... Unless you buy a special developer model of a brand. Lol
Anyway.... My point is... 4.4 is awful. Let's hope they do a better job with 5.0. And they stop leaning toward the apple philosophy of not letting people "play" with their phones.
Every device section I follow has threads about kit kat... And when will they get it. Then when they do, theirs tonnes of negative threads about it.
4.2.2.....the last best version. At this point.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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I'll add.... The carriers play a big part in these shenanigans I'm sure.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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I think your science is off. SSDD when it comes to Android releases. Same exact posts sprouted up when Gingerbread was released...
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And to each their own.
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kj2112 said:
Kit kat blows. That's my scientific analysis. Doesn't matter what device section you go to.... You will read about a lot of bugs. They "almost" squashed flash. It locks some brands boot loaders... From what I recall. They are trying to stop root. They are trying to stop 3rd party battery analysis apps.... Etc... Etc. Basically they seem to be trying to squash development.... Oh... Unless you buy a special developer model of a brand. Lol
Anyway.... My point is... 4.4 is awful. Let's hope they do a better job with 5.0. And they stop leaning toward the apple philosophy of not letting people "play" with their phones.
Every device section I follow has threads about kit kat... And when will they get it. Then when they do, theirs tonnes of negative threads about it.
4.2.2.....the last best version. At this point.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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I'll add.... The carriers play a big part in these shenanigans I'm sure.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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Buy a Developer edition so you have a unlocked boot loader. If you buy retail expect it to be locked down and lucky if a exploit is found.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Buy a Developer edition so you have a unlocked boot loader. If you buy retail expect it to be locked down and lucky if a exploit is found.
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I have the Rogers version... I'm all unlocked.
I was talking about devices in general. Google and the carriers are making it tough on people to unlock... Root... Etc.... On many devices.
I have zero problems with my Moto X. I was knocking 4.4 and the direction Android in general seems to be heading.
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There is a reason that Google, manufacturers and carriers are making devices more and more secure. There is demand for it. People don't want insecure devices that someone can randomly access. Or, the want a secure phone that is good for both personal and business use. While you say it's bad, it isn't. I'm not sure why you think a secure device is a bad thing, or why you expect the initial software release to be bug free. I don't think there has been an Android release yet that hasn't seen a few quick incremental updates just after initial release to fix bugs.
Also, 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 are more than just "Nexus updates". Sure, the updates mainly apply to Nexus phones because they're the only ones running 4.4.0 really, other than the Moto X. There is a lot of stuff fixed that will apply to all devices running the software, not just Nexus phones.
The HTC One GPE 4.4.2 rollout is in progress, so it's definitely coming to non-Nexus phones.
imnuts said:
There is a reason that Google, manufacturers and carriers are making devices more and more secure. There is demand for it. People don't want insecure devices that someone can randomly access. Or, the want a secure phone that is good for both personal and business use.
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To add to that, Google also has an obligation to fix root exploits (and they are exploits on locked devices; Nexus devices will always be developer devices at heart) now that they offer TV Shows and Movies in the Play Store. Some app developers (game developers usually) also had to implement nasty DRM because of pirating, which sucks because a lot of games have to "check-in" to verify the license; so, if you don't have internet at the time of check-in, you don't get to play. The more Google can control on MAINSTREAM devices, the better for their long term contracts with studios (music, movies, television) and publishers (magazines, books).
I used to NEED root, but the Moto X actually changed my mind about that.
Steve-x said:
It would be much more ideal for Motorola to have adopted the Apple model where they release a new build and don't really care much what the carrier thinks.
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No, it wouldn't have because no other mobile OEM in the world has the kind of sway with carriers that Apple has. Apple blew open the mobile industry. Don't forget that. As much as I love android, those are the facts. Sure, I'd love for that to change sooner rather than later. You can see small battles over this happening all the time. N7 2013 has the chips for VZW LTE bands. VZW suddenly decided not to activate N7s on their network. A customer would essentially have to nag and harass VZW to get it activated. Or, you could take an already activated LTE VZW sim and just pop it in.
There are many battles being waged that you may not be aware of. It's unlikely someone will win the war soon. But join the battle by voting with your wallet.
kj2112 said:
Kit kat blows. That's my scientific analysis. Doesn't matter what device section you go to.... You will read about a lot of bugs. They "almost" squashed flash. It locks some brands boot loaders... From what I recall. They are trying to stop root. They are trying to stop 3rd party battery analysis apps.... Etc... Etc. Basically they seem to be trying to squash development.... Oh... Unless you buy a special developer model of a brand. Lol
Anyway.... My point is... 4.4 is awful. Let's hope they do a better job with 5.0. And they stop leaning toward the apple philosophy of not letting people "play" with their phones.
Every device section I follow has threads about kit kat... And when will they get it. Then when they do, theirs tonnes of negative threads about it.
4.2.2.....the last best version. At this point.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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I'll add.... The carriers play a big part in these shenanigans I'm sure.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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This is simply not true. Following the history of previous Android release, the .0 release always came with a lot of small bugs. Otherwise, there won't be any subsequent point releases. For example, 4.2 was released on 11/13/2012, just 14 days later, there was a 4.2.1 release.
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No, it wouldn't have because no other mobile OEM in the world has the kind of sway with carriers that Apple has. Apple blew open the mobile industry. Don't forget that. As much as I love android, those are the facts. Sure, I'd love for that to change sooner rather than later. You can see small battles over this happening all the time. N7 2013 has the chips for VZW LTE bands. VZW suddenly decided not to activate N7s on their network. A customer would essentially have to nag and harass VZW to get it activated. Or, you could take an already activated LTE VZW sim and just pop it in.
There are many battles being waged that you may not be aware of. It's unlikely someone will win the war soon. But join the battle by voting with your wallet.
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I never said it was realistic, but I would prefer it if it were possible. My carrier doesn't even sell the Moto X, I had to buy one from another carrier and unlock it. No developer edition or motomaker in Canada either.
We certainly don't want to turn this thread towards apple but I'm pleased to say I am 100% apple free and also 100% cellphone contract free.
Steve-x said:
... I'm pleased to say I am 100% apple free and also 100% cellphone contract free.
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Nice! I'm working on it: I suspended my VZW accounts, trying out tmo prepaid. I can't lie though, I'm very interested in seeing the effects of the bandwidth improvements vz made in my area. Another local xda user posted a speedtest screen that was 3x the performance of vz at it's peak. Maybe I'll borrow a sim from a friend...
Steve-x said:
I never said it was realistic, but I would prefer it if it were possible. My carrier doesn't even sell the Moto X, I had to buy one from another carrier and unlock it. No developer edition or motomaker in Canada either.
We certainly don't want to turn this thread towards apple but I'm pleased to say I am 100% apple free and also 100% cellphone contract free.
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That's exactly what I did. Wanted to replace my s2...and buy a phone outright and say goodbye to contacts. I'm on telus. Did a tonne of reading, reviews and articles and XDA of course. Was between the G2, HTC one and the moto x. Decided on the X. And couldn't be happier.
For the Rogers version, unlocked sim, then boot loader... And rooted. The phone blows me away.
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Jason.DROID said:
I used to NEED root, but the Moto X actually changed my mind about that.
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Quoted for truth.
It'd mind blowing to me... I have no interest in rooting. For the first time... Ever.
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HTC one Google play edition just got 4.4.2. http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...rs/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content=FaceBook
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This is just stupid:
kj2112 said:
Kit kat blows. That's my scientific analysis. Doesn't matter what device section you go to.... You will read about a lot of bugs.
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You read about a lot of bugs everywhere.
They "almost" squashed flash.
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Gosh, imagine that, an incompatible and unsupported app doesn't work. Bad Google, bad! You should be designing your OS to work with random unsupported apps that are no longer in development!
It locks some brands boot loaders... From what I recall.
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You recall wrong.
They are trying to stop root.
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You know that rooting on non-dev phones is executing a security exploit, right? That it's a vulnerability in the phone? That leaving it open would actually be the worst thing to do?
Basically they seem to be trying to squash development.... Oh... Unless you buy a special developer model of a brand. Lol
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Everything about your "scientific analysis" is wrong. Go back to the drawing board.
I just took advantage of the cyber monday promo code and ordered a new Verizon Moto X. I still have a grandfathered unlimited data plan and use wireless tether on my rooted (and ancient) HTC Thunderbolt heavily. I'm a bit concerned that this may not be very straightforward on the Moto X. First, I am a bit confused about root.
Is it possible to attain root on my stock phone without unlocking the bootloader?
Is there any advantage to unlocking the bootloader, outside of loading custom roms?
How limited is my ability to accept OTA updates once rooted?
Also, how well does wireless tether for root work with the Moto X once rooted?
What's the point?
I really was about to buy an S4, but this deal was too good to pass up, and I really like what I've read about this phone. I'm hoping it wasn't a mistake, since I know I can definitely accomplish these things fairly easily with the S4. But I'd rather not have that cheap plastic construction. Having come from an HTC, I like the more robustly constructed phones.
Don't bother answering that last question, it's probably beyond the scope of this board.
1. Did you try searching or reading at all?
2. Forget about the bootloader unless you purchased the developer edition.
3. You don't unless you unroot.
4. Just as well as any other Android phone.
5. You tell us. Everyone has different needs and desires.
6. If rooting the Moto X seems difficult, what makes you sure you can easily do it with the S4?
ggtsu said:
I just took advantage of the cyber monday promo code and ordered a new Verizon Moto X. I still have a grandfathered unlimited data plan and use wireless tether on my rooted (and ancient) HTC Thunderbolt heavily. I'm a bit concerned that this may not be very straightforward on the Moto X. First, I am a bit confused about root.
Is it possible to attain root on my stock phone without unlocking the bootloader?
Is there any advantage to unlocking the bootloader, outside of loading custom roms?
How limited is my ability to accept OTA updates once rooted?
Also, how well does wireless tether for root work with the Moto X once rooted?
What's the point?
I really was about to buy an S4, but this deal was too good to pass up, and I really like what I've read about this phone. I'm hoping it wasn't a mistake, since I know I can definitely accomplish these things fairly easily with the S4. But I'd rather not have that cheap plastic construction. Having come from an HTC, I like the more robustly constructed phones.
Don't bother answering that last question, it's probably beyond the scope of this board.
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Get root w/o unlock?
Yeah there are root methods that work, but you have to do it from 4.2.2 which ships with the phone before you take the 4.4 OTA update.
Advantage to unlocking?
Easier to root. Even if you lose root from a potential OTA update later you're OK and can easily redo it.
I'm unable to comment on most the rest since I actually got the T-Mobile variant and use it with AT&T and tether without root. The T-mobile variant only does the T-Mobile entitlement check.
In fact I HAVE been reading about it, but I could not find a non-ambiguious answer to my ?'s hence my post. I happened to find plenty of clear answers to my questions on the S4, and have extensively rooted, rommed, and modified my Tbolt over the last few years. So yes, I did think I would be able to easily root the S4.
But thanks for being a bit of a **** about it. :good:
nhizzat said:
1. Did you try searching or reading at all?
2. Forget about the bootloader unless you purchased the developer edition.
3. You don't.
4. Just as well as any other Android phone.
5. You tell us. Everyone has different needs and desires.
6. If rooting the Moto X seems difficult, what makes you sure you can easily do it with the S4?
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superm1 said:
Get root w/o unlock?
Yeah there are root methods that work, but you have to do it from 4.2.2 which ships with the phone before you take the 4.4 OTA update.
Advantage to unlocking?
Easier to root. Even if you lose root from a potential OTA update later you're OK and can easily redo it.
I'm unable to comment on most the rest since I actually got the T-Mobile variant and use it with AT&T and tether without root. The T-mobile variant only does the T-Mobile entitlement check.
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I saw that there is a way of unlocking the bootloader via motorola's site. Is this something that is limited to the dev editions, or do you know if it works with the non-dev versions as well?
Can only unlock boot loader on Dev editions. And to the original poster it is clearly posted with step by step instructions on how to root in the original android development section
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charlie-n said:
Can only unlock boot loader on Dev editions. And to the original poster it is clearly posted with step by step instructions on how to root in the original android development section
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Thanks, I did not see those. I has assumed that section contained out of date info or something.
ggtsu said:
In fact I HAVE been reading about it, but I could not find a non-ambiguious answer to my ?'s hence my post. I happened to find plenty of clear answers to my questions on the S4, and have extensively rooted, rommed, and modified my Tbolt over the last few years. So yes, I did think I would be able to easily root the S4.
But thanks for being a bit of a **** about it. :good:
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If you have extensively rooted, rommed, and modified your Tbolt, rooting the VZW Moto X shouldn't be the least bit difficult at all. Just use SlapMyMoto because our phones (those purchased with the Cyber Monday deals) shipped with 4.2.2 and the camera update.
Since you feel that I was being a **** for not spoon-feeding you, sorry I'm not sorry. You've been around awhile so I assume you're aware of how Motorola phones on VZW work in terms of their bootloader, especially since you're active in the rooting/romming/modding scene.
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Thanks, I did not see those. I has assumed that section contained out of date info or something.
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well you know what they say about assuming...
ggtsu said:
I saw that there is a way of unlocking the bootloader via motorola's site. Is this something that is limited to the dev editions, or do you know if it works with the non-dev versions as well?
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This only works for specific carriers that Moto chooses to offer the unlock services to... and by doing so, they record your device ID, I believe, so your warranty is 100% voided at their end. Nothing comes for free.
If you want a scot-free unlockable bootloader, you can only get that with a Dev Edition MotoX.
Look up SlapMyMoto (at v0.5c) for the skinny on gaining root access to the locked MotoX and being able to OTA to 4.4 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48555826
Regarding Wifi Tether, there are two methods that seem to work. This is what I'm using for now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48520965&postcount=42
There is also discussion about the Entitlement override .apk here, but I haven't tried this one yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443562
Good luck.
scootle74 said:
This only works for specific carriers that Moto chooses to offer the unlock services to... and by doing so, they record your device ID, I believe, so your warranty is 100% voided at their end. Nothing comes for free.
If you want a scot-free unlockable bootloader, you can only get that with a Dev Edition MotoX.
Look up SlapMyMoto (at v0.5c) for the skinny on gaining root access to the locked MotoX and being able to OTA to 4.4 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48555826
Regarding Wifi Tether, there are two methods that seem to work. This is what I'm using for now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48520965&postcount=42
There is also discussion about the Entitlement override .apk here, but I haven't tried this one yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443562
Good luck.
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Thanks a lot, this is a helpful list. I saw the wifi tether method you posted there before, but I am interested in giving the Entitlement override a try. I just received my phone today and noticed I'm already at 4.4. Will the SlapMyMoto technique work for me, or is that only for people that are starting from 4.2? It's not totally clear in that thread.
ggtsu said:
Thanks a lot, this is a helpful list. I saw the wifi tether method you posted there before, but I am interested in giving the Entitlement override a try. I just received my phone today and noticed I'm already at 4.4. Will the SlapMyMoto technique work for me, or is that only for people that are starting from 4.2? It's not totally clear in that thread.
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80 pages makes a thread hard to read, the main post is also somewhat sparse on details.
You should be able to revert back to 4.2.2 using RSD Lite.
This thread points out most of the other useful threads (including one on how to flash back to 4.2.2 using RSD Lite)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
The site linked to get the 4.2.2 rom is down, you can get it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568334
ggtsu said:
Thanks a lot, this is a helpful list. I saw the wifi tether method you posted there before, but I am interested in giving the Entitlement override a try. I just received my phone today and noticed I'm already at 4.4. Will the SlapMyMoto technique work for me, or is that only for people that are starting from 4.2? It's not totally clear in that thread.
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You will use RSDLite, as mentioned, to revert to OEM 4.2.2 with the camera-patched image that you'd use for SlapMyMoto in the first place. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
Roll back your phone (which pretty much wipes it) to 4.2.2 and start the SlapMyMoto process from there. I made the same mistake of accepting the 4.4 OTA before realizing my mistake.
Good luck!
Ran into an issue with connecting to adb, unfortunately pretty early on. Posted it in the appropriate thread, if anyone would like to chime in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48614126#post48614126
Thanks!
I just got a Developers Edition Moto X and I love the device, but coming from the HTC One, it has come as a shock to me how different each forum is.
I'm very surprised we haven't got a stock ROM for the 4.4.2 update that is flashable with TWRP/CWM.
Is it because of the locked bootloaders? Did the device not sell well?
From what I've read here is that most people are happy with the stock ROM with root. As the ROM is so close to Vanilla Android, there is not a lot of development in ROMs for this phone. Also most want to keep Active Display and/or the Touchless Controls. I just got an OTA for 4.2.2 on my retail unlocked Moto X (also referred to as the T-Mobile version).
As far as the boot loader goes, to my knowledge only the Verizon retail and AT&T retail Moto X's are locked. All the other models can be unlocked by requesting the unlock code from Motorola. And I think the phone sold well. It definitely could have used a lot more marketing help to compete with the larger manufacturers.
sucks that mine is locked
zewone said:
I just got a Developers Edition Moto X and I love the device, but coming from the HTC One, it has come as a shock to me how different each forum is.
I'm very surprised we haven't got a stock ROM for the 4.4.2 update that is flashable with TWRP/CWM.
Is it because of the locked bootloaders? Did the device not sell well?
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I find that stock rooted with Xposed and the Gravity Box module are all I need ... I too got the dev edition as well, if for nothing else rooting after OTAs we be less of a hassle
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Well we do have a stock flashable 4.4.2 ROM there's actually 2 one for the 1052 and kangakat ,both are for the gsm version and I do believe they will also work on the CDMA variant If you swap out the build prop, we also have custom Roms, slimkat, cm11, gummy.pacman, Liquid smooth and beanstalk
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Hikikomori-Otaku said:
From what I've read here is that most people are happy with the stock ROM with root. As the ROM is so close to Vanilla Android, there is not a lot of development in ROMs for this phone. Also most want to keep Active Display and/or the Touchless Controls. I just got an OTA for 4.2.2 on my retail unlocked Moto X (also referred to as the T-Mobile version).
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I completely agree with this. ROMs like CyanogenMod or AOKP aren't likely to support Active Displays, or "Okay Google Now" voice commands, or flicking the wrist to unlock the camera.
Also, I think the fact that there's a big split between the Dev Editions and Moto-Maker hurts things more. A lot of people of Moto-Maker, and they're very limited on what they can do with their phones compared to Dev Edition. Then you add in the fact that there are GSM/Verizon/Sprint versions all mixed AND the phone hasn't sold well, and things are very limited.
zewone said:
I just got a Developers Edition Moto X and I love the device, but coming from the HTC One, it has come as a shock to me how different each forum is.
I'm very surprised we haven't got a stock ROM for the 4.4.2 update that is flashable with TWRP/CWM.
Is it because of the locked bootloaders? Did the device not sell well?
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not to worry. even though a lot are pleased with stock out of the box, there will be ROMs. we can still tweak, improve, and slim it down some. i officially ordered mine yesterday and it is the DE/T-Mob variant XT1053.
just like others have said, the device hasn't been advertised as much as it should be, esp with the deals that keep going on with it. if it would stay at $300 for 16gb/$350 for 32gb, they would sell like hot cakes.
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DogzOfWar said:
I completely agree with this. ROMs like CyanogenMod or AOKP aren't likely to support Active Displays, or "Okay Google Now" voice commands, or flicking the wrist to unlock the camera.
Also, I think the fact that there's a big split between the Dev Editions and Moto-Maker hurts things more. A lot of people of Moto-Maker, and they're very limited on what they can do with their phones compared to Dev Edition. Then you add in the fact that there are GSM/Verizon/Sprint versions all mixed AND the phone hasn't sold well, and things are very limited.
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the GSM unlocked on Moto-Maker is the exact same as the Dev Edition. i think this is confusing a lot of people.
Hey guys,
I just moved apartments this past weekend and I have 0 service in my new place; not even 1 bar. I've been a T-Mobile customer of 10 years and feel sad that I'm going to have to part ways. They said there's nothing they can do and they have no signal boosters in stock.
Got me thinking, I've been overpaying bigtime for this unlimited plan. Yes, I've raped them on data, but now that my life is pretty structured and on WiFi most of the time, I think I can make the RW plan work.
I thought about utilizing a VoIP/Google Voice solution but Republic seems more seamless. Anyways, I just placed and order for a new Moto X and will try out the 30 day trial.
Problem is, I cannot live without root and tweaking my phone. The tethered root is not gonna work for me, so I was thinking that while I'm on the trial, I can test out the service, and in the meantime source a Moto X that's on 4.2.2. That way, if I want to stay with RW I can just cancel the trial, return the phone, get the one with 4.2.2, and re-sign up.
Does anyone know a source of Moto Xs on 4.2.2? Doesn't have to be new.
Poi25 said:
Hey guys,
I just moved apartments this past weekend and I have 0 service in my new place; not even 1 bar. I've been a T-Mobile customer of 10 years and feel sad that I'm going to have to part ways. They said there's nothing they can do and they have no signal boosters in stock.
Got me thinking, I've been overpaying bigtime for this unlimited plan. Yes, I've raped them on data, but now that my life is pretty structured and on WiFi most of the time, I think I can make the RW plan work.
I thought about utilizing a VoIP/Google Voice solution but Republic seems more seamless. Anyways, I just placed and order for a new Moto X and will try out the 30 day trial.
Problem is, I cannot live without root and tweaking my phone. The tethered root is not gonna work for me, so I was thinking that while I'm on the trial, I can test out the service, and in the meantime source a Moto X that's on 4.2.2. That way, if I want to stay with RW I can just cancel the trial, return the phone, get the one with 4.2.2, and re-sign up.
Does anyone know a source of Moto Xs on 4.2.2? Doesn't have to be new.
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First, RW will only activate Republic Wireless Moto X's. It can't be just any old X. You will be hard-pressed to find a used RW phone that is still on 4.2.2.
Second, if you ordered from RW directly, there is a good chance the phone you will get is still on 4.2.2. If you ordered from MotoMaker, it will almost certainly be on 4.4.2 already.
Third, for $45 you can [probably] unlock your bootloader! I haven't seen a single RW customer not get an unlock code yet. (See the "China Middleman Back??" thread in General for more details). I got both my RW Moto X's unlocked through the middleman.
Any more questions? BTW, I would have given you a $20 coupon if you posted before you ordered... And yeah, I love their service.
samwathegreat said:
First, RW will only activate Republic Wireless Moto X's. It can't be just any old X. You will be hard-pressed to find a used RW phone that is still on 4.2.2.
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Yes, I know.
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Second, if you ordered from RW directly, there is a good chance the phone you will get is still on 4.2.2. If you ordered from MotoMaker, it will almost certainly be on 4.4.2 already.
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That would be amazing.
samwathegreat said:
Third, for $45 you can [probably] unlock your bootloader! I haven't seen a single RW customer not get an unlock code yet. (See the "China Middleman Back??" thread in General for more details). I got both my RW Moto X's unlocked through the middleman.
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Well, come to think of it, if I get a phone that can have full root with write enabled, what would unlocking the bootloader give me over and beyond what I need? I'll be sticking to stock ROM anyways. Wouldn't be flashing any custom ROMs or anything unless they retain the WiFi calling aspect, which is why I'm switching to RW to begin with.
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BTW, I would have given you a $20 coupon if you posted before you ordered
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lol I found a random guy's referral code on Reddit, I'm sure he's happy.
My original question is a preemptive information gathering one. I'm just wondering, if the Moto X I receive is 4.4.2 or above, where I could go about finding one with 4.4 or below.
One more quick random question: reading the different root methods for each version, it says 4.4 can be downgraded to 4.2.2 post camera update, but not pre. Why would anyone want to go pre-camera update anyways, didn't that fix camera issues?
Poi25 said:
Well, come to think of it, if I get a phone that can have full root with write enabled, what would unlocking the bootloader give me over and beyond what I need? I'll be sticking to stock ROM anyways. Wouldn't be flashing any custom ROMs or anything unless they retain the WiFi calling aspect, which is why I'm switching to RW to begin with.
My original question is a preemptive information gathering one. I'm just wondering, if the Moto X I receive is 4.4.2 or above, where I could go about finding one with 4.4 or below.
One more quick random question: reading the different root methods for each version, it says 4.4 can be downgraded to 4.2.2 post camera update, but not pre. Why would anyone want to go pre-camera update anyways, didn't that fix camera issues?
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OK, first, bootloader-unlocking is far superior to the root/wp-off exploit. If you ever want to update past 4.4, you have to use safestrap, which is a big hack. Great for those who have no other options, but complicated and tricky. And your bootloader and partition table REMAIN on 4.4. This may cause problems with future updates (4.4.4 +?). We just don't know what the future holds.
With your bootloader unlocked, you have permanent ability to root, no matter what android version you are running. You can update to the latest version with ease, and don't have to worry about someone creating a new safestrap-compatible ROM that will work for your device.
If you didn't already know, Hashcode is dropping support for safestrap soon, so it may end up being a thing of the past...
Yes, 4.4 can only be downgraded to 4.2.2 post-camera - otherwise you will brick. If you were on the original 4.2.2, you could use jcase's "PwnMyMoto" exploit which is very easy, and disables write-protect and roots.
4.2.2 Post-camera can only use "RockMyMoto" which is much more complicated and involved, and also requires "MotoWpNoMo" to disable WP before you can use it.
Again, these exploits are complicated and tricky. With your bootloader unlocked, even on the latest android version, you simply flash TWRP, which roots for you. Done. And no worries about future updates patching the previous exploits. Very clean, and easy.
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Again, these exploits are complicated and tricky. With your bootloader unlocked, even on the latest android version, you simply flash TWRP, which roots for you. Done. And no worries about future updates patching the previous exploits. Very clean, and easy.
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Fair enough. So I'm guessing you just flash the new ROM (for updates) through TWRP and then just flash SuperSU for root?
I'm totally new to this device, just started researching it today, and unsure how the switchis ggoing to be. I'm literally going from the biggest device out there (6.4" Xperia Z Ultra) to the 4.7" Moto X lol.
Poi25 said:
Fair enough. So I'm guessing you just flash the new ROM (for updates) through TWRP and then just flash SuperSU for root?
I'm totally new to this device, just started researching it today, and unsure how the switchis ggoing to be. I'm literally going from the biggest device out there (6.4" Xperia Z Ultra) to the 4.7" Moto X lol.
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Nope, you have to have stock recovery for OTAs. I suggest you read up on some of the guides for unlocked users...don't want to spend a bunch of time detailing what is already in multiple guides. See the "One Stop shop" rooting thread for specifics.
Here's the short version: when a new OTA update is available, you use fastboot to flash stock recovery back on. Then you take the update. Afterwards, you can flash TWRP back on and re-root. You only need to do this for updates. (This is for UNLOCKED devices -- safestrap is much more complicated and again, it may lose support in the near future. I highly suggest getting unlocked if you can.)
IMO, the Moto X is the perfect size. I couldn't comfortably fit any larger of a phone in my pocket...and since I don't carry a big 'purse' or similar LOL, I don't want some massive device. I really dislike this new trend for 'phablets'. Way too big for my liking.
Anyways, good luck. Hope you enjoy RW.
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I suggest you read up on some of the guides for unlocked users...don't want to spend a bunch of time detailing what is already in multiple guides. See the "One Stop shop" rooting thread for specifics.
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Just wanted to say first, thank you for your help. Great introduction to Moto X community.
I read up on the bootloader unlocking and root in the One Stop Shop thread. Unless I'm missing something, I will be unable to unlock the bootloader on the RW. At least that's what I got from the thread. RW Moto X is not listed as an unlockable bootloader.
Poi25 said:
Just wanted to say first, thank you for your help. Great introduction to Moto X community.
I read up on the bootloader unlocking and root in the One Stop Shop thread. Unless I'm missing something, I will be unable to unlock the bootloader on the RW. At least that's what I got from the thread. RW Moto X is not listed as an unlockable bootloader.
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You are welcome....but you are missing something. Specifically my 2nd post:
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Third, for $45 you can [probably] unlock your bootloader! I haven't seen a single RW customer not get an unlock code yet. (See the "China Middleman Back??" thread in General for more details). I got both my RW Moto X's unlocked through the middleman.
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See that thread for details....some dude in China is selling unlock codes. They work!!! All the details are in that thread...but basically you paypal him $45 (and put your IMEI and email in the notes) and he sends you an unlock code. If he doesn't have your code, you get refunded.
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You are welcome....but you are missing something. Specifically my 2nd post:
See that thread for details....some dude in China is selling unlock codes. They work!!! All the details are in that thread...but basically you paypal him $45 (and put your IMEI and email in the notes) and he sends you an unlock code. If he doesn't have your code, you get refunded.
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Just received the RW MotoX yesterday, it is on 4.2.2 which is nice. However, if I do end up staying with RW I'll probably try and source one that's cheaper and return this one. I wonder if They'll offer the X+1 which seems a bit more enticing to me.
First impressions: Boy this thing is small (4.7" compared to 6.4" Xperia Z Ultra). I don't know if I'll be able to get over that size difference, but I will use this for a few weeks and see how I feel. I actually get Sprint reception in my apartment which I was surprised about. I'm impressed so far with the WiFi calling feature. A lot more seamless and better quality than VoIP through native android dialer using an Anveo DID.
I don't see a point in unlocking the bootloader on this thing if I'll probably return it (would wait to spend that $45 on the other if I can source one), but I'd love to tinker with this and set things up to my liking. Is there a way for me to root/update with the ability to return this to bone stock to return to RW? Or must I do nothing to this device?
Poi25 said:
Just received the RW MotoX yesterday, it is on 4.2.2 which is nice. However, if I do end up staying with RW I'll probably try and source one that's cheaper and return this one. I wonder if They'll offer the X+1 which seems a bit more enticing to me.
First impressions: Boy this thing is small (4.7" compared to 6.4" Xperia Z Ultra). I don't know if I'll be able to get over that size difference, but I will use this for a few weeks and see how I feel. I actually get Sprint reception in my apartment which I was surprised about. I'm impressed so far with the WiFi calling feature. A lot more seamless and better quality than VoIP through native android dialer using an Anveo DID.
I don't see a point in unlocking the bootloader on this thing if I'll probably return it (would wait to spend that $45 on the other if I can source one), but I'd love to tinker with this and set things up to my liking. Is there a way for me to root/update with the ability to return this to bone stock to return to RW? Or must I do nothing to this device?
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Well you won't find one for that much cheaper. They are selling used for ~$200 on Swappa and slightly higher on eBay. The fact that you got one on 4.2.2 is excellent - you probably won't find a used one that's not already on 4.4.2. This means that you could follow the safestrap guide to disable write-protect and use the safestrap-compatible 4.4.2 ROM which is the next best thing to having an unlocked BL. Once updated to 4.4.2, you can kiss the possibility of using safestrap goodbye...
Additionally if you return it, you are out shipping costs (~$10), and you will lose your $20 referral credit. So at most you will get $70 for all of your troubles and have to deal with all the hassle along with it. Not to mention getting a USED phone with no warranty as opposed to the full 1YR warranty you got with your new device.
I agree it is small and I just LOVE it. I hate the "phablet" fad that is going on. Anything bigger than the X, I can't fit in my pants pocket comfortably. And I'm a dude....so I don't carry a purse to put some massive phone in.
Until you decide whether or not you are going to keep it, you can enjoy limited root access via "TowelPieRoot" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059/post54850209
(Remember to "THANK" @iKrYpToNiTe for his awesome work combining TR and PIE for an effective temp-root solution.) Keep in mind this solution does NOT disable write protect, so DON'T update past 4.2.2 if there is any possibility that you will keep the device. If you decide to keep it, you will HAVE to be on 4.2.2 to disable WP and gain persistent root and write access. Of course, don't do the safestrap procedures unless you decide to keep it.
No idea if they will offer the X+1...we might find out in September. I'm sticking with the original X. I don't like big phones....I just don't get the appeal. To each their own...
Have fun playing with it.
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Well you won't find one for that much cheaper. They are selling used for ~$200 on Swappa and slightly higher on eBay. The fact that you got one on 4.2.2 is excellent - you probably won't find a used one that's not already on 4.4.2. This means that you could follow the safestrap guide to disable write-protect and use the safestrap-compatible 4.4.2 ROM which is the next best thing to having an unlocked BL. Once updated to 4.4.2, you can kiss the possibility of using safestrap goodbye...
Additionally if you return it, you are out shipping costs (~$10), and you will lose your $20 referral credit. So at most you will get $70 for all of your troubles and have to deal with all the hassle along with it. Not to mention getting a USED phone with no warranty as opposed to the full 1YR warranty you got with your new device.
I agree it is small and I just LOVE it. I hate the "phablet" fad that is going on. Anything bigger than the X, I can't fit in my pants pocket comfortably. And I'm a dude....so I don't carry a purse to put some massive phone in.
Until you decide whether or not you are going to keep it, you can enjoy limited root access via "TowelPieRoot" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059/post54850209
(Remember to "THANK" @iKrYpToNiTe for his awesome work combining TR and PIE for an effective temp-root solution.) Keep in mind this solution does NOT disable write protect, so DON'T update past 4.2.2 if there is any possibility that you will keep the device. If you decide to keep it, you will HAVE to be on 4.2.2 to disable WP and gain persistent root and write access. Of course, don't do the safestrap procedures unless you decide to keep it.
No idea if they will offer the X+1...we might find out in September. I'm sticking with the original X. I don't like big phones....I just don't get the appeal. To each their own...
Have fun playing with it.
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Good points, will keep that in mind. Well if I decide to keep the device, I'd like to forgo the safestrap methods altogether and unlock the BL via the middleman. I can deal with having write protection for a few weeks, as I'll still be able to install Xposed and all the root apps, correct?
You mentioned safestrap, but I was under the impression I could skip that completely with BL unlock. Are you saying that the temp root solution will require me to use safestrap in the future?
Poi25 said:
Good points, will keep that in mind. Well if I decide to keep the device, I'd like to forgo the safestrap methods altogether and unlock the BL via the middleman. I can deal with having write protection for a few weeks, as I'll still be able to install Xposed and all the root apps, correct?
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You will have serious problems trying to get Xposed to work without disabling WP. If you are able to use it, it will be lost upon reboot and you'll have to get it working again. It's complicated and messy trying to get Xposed working on a temp-root.
Most other root apps will work fine with TowelPieRoot. Ad-away will not as it requires write access to /system.
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You mentioned safestrap, but I was under the impression I could skip that completely with BL unlock. Are you saying that the temp root solution will require me to use safestrap in the future?
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Um..no. If you unlock via middleman, none of this is relevant. You don't need safestrap or any other exploit. You device will essentially be an unofficial "DEV" edition.
Safestrap is an alternative for people who are not unlocked. It provides most of the benefits of a full unlock, but you MUST have never updated to 4.4.2 or above or you cannot use it as it has been patched.
If you plan to unlock, don't worry about updating or safestrap. Thing is....the middleman has failed to get codes for some devices, so better to play it safe and stay on 4.2.2 until AFTER you get a code from him and unlock.
Regardless of what you do, the temp-root solution won't affect any of it. Safe to use in the meantime - until you make your final decisions.
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Regardless of what you do, the temp-root solution won't affect any of it. Safe to use in the meantime - until you make your final decisions.
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Great, that's what I wanted to know, and was planning on doing that (staying on 4.2.2 until I decide what to do). I disabled automatic update immediately and keep postponing update requests every 24 hours. Wish there was a way to remove the update prompt altogether.
Poi25 said:
Great, that's what I wanted to know, and was planning on doing that (staying on 4.2.2 until I decide what to do). I disabled automatic update immediately and keep postponing update requests every 24 hours. Wish there was a way to remove the update prompt altogether.
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There is....if you have purchased Titanium Backup, install it. Use TowelPieRoot to root, and then run Titanium Backup and "FREEZE" "MotorolaOTA". The paid version of TiBu is required to freeze apps.
No more update notifications. And if you get a code from the middleman in the future...well unlocking resets everything to factory defaults so you can update then.
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Until you decide whether or not you are going to keep it, you can enjoy limited root access via "TowelPieRoot" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059/post54850209
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Doesnt work.
Says Root Achieved within TowelRoot but SuperSU gives me error that binary cannot be installed amd TiBu gives me error regarding root access.
Poi25 said:
Doesnt work.
Says Root Achieved within TowelRoot but SuperSU gives me error that binary cannot be installed amd TiBu gives me error regarding root access.
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That's your problem. You don't use SuperSU with temp roots. Reboot, use TPR, and tibu should work without issue. Once don't this on several phones.. I know it works. Don't install SuperSU.
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That's your problem. You don't use SuperSU with temp roots. Reboot, use TPR, and tibu should work without issue. Once don't this on several phones.. I know it works. Don't install SuperSU.
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Negative. I only installed SuperSU after TiBu gave me the error. uninstalled both, reinstalled TPR, got root confirm, rebooted, and TiBu still saying:
sorry I could not acquire root privileges
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Negative. I only installed SuperSU after TiBu gave me the error. uninstalled both, reinstalled TPR, got root confirm, rebooted, and TiBu still saying:
sorry I could not acquire root privileges
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Strange. The problem then could be that you are on 4.2.2.
TPR is for 4.4+
I've only used it on 4.4.2 on which it works flawlessly. That's my best guess.
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Strange. The problem then could be that you are on 4.2.2.
TPR is for 4.4+
I've only used it on 4.4.2 on which it works flawlessly. That's my best guess.
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Any other options? Or you think I should just deal with it for a few weeks until I make my decision?
Poi25 said:
Any other options? Or you think I should just deal with it for a few weeks until I make my decision?
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You could use pwnmymoto. Technically it will void your warranty but as long as you do a full return to stock I doubt they could tell.
As the title says should I root my moto g?
I am not sure because I got this device a month ago and it is working fine, but I am missing my root apps and ****, and I am worried about the warranty, can I get it back after I root.
I am on dual Sim model 1098
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Your warranty will be void if you unlock bootloader, no matter you root your phone or not.
for now there is no exploit to root phone w/o unlocking bootloader so if you want to root you have to unlock bootloader which will void warranty
I'm going to wait until the "big" update before unlock, root because they have not released the kernel source yet. there's no custom Roms yet either.
no whiners
bhavin192 said:
Your warranty will be void if you unlock bootloader, no matter you root your phone or not.
for now there is no exploit to root phone w/o unlocking bootloader so if you want to root you have to unlock bootloader which will void warranty
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Thank you for your reply, I have decided not to root my phone and wait till custom Roms arrive, I hope that Motorola will do it asap, after the BIG update...
Thank you everyone..
jrny99 said:
I'm going to wait until the "big" update before unlock, root because they have not released the kernel source yet. there's no custom Roms yet either.
no whiners
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One reason to root your phone is to get Greenified and Lion Tamer installed. These two apps combined help get my battery from lasting most of the day to a full day. And I have a 4 hours of screen on time, with hard use.
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One reason to root your phone is to get Greenified and Lion Tamer installed. These two apps combined help get my battery from lasting most of the day to a full day. And I have a 4 hours of screen on time, with hard use.
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Wow really???
Turn I can think of rooting, but losing my warranty would be a big loss...
I have had my phone for about three weeks now and have yet to find a reason that I cannot live without rooting. It runs great, and my battery life is more than sufficient. To void my warranty for very little gan just doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe when there are some decent "Lollipop" custom ROM's I may consider it again. But that will be several months down the road. And by then I will be out of warranty.
Considering that the Kernel Source for the X 2nd Gen just dropped on Github and that the G 2nd Gen will be next, I say why not
I'm very anxious to see what devs will do with the Sources
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I rooted my phone to get screen casting working on my chromecast !! Moto G2 does not support screen casting on chromecast officially !
jadephyre said:
Considering that the Kernel Source for the X 2nd Gen just dropped on Github and that the G 2nd Gen will be next, I say why not
I'm very anxious to see what devs will do with the Sources
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Ohh great news...
I hope they do it asap and the devs will start there work....
Trying to make the Moto G (2nd) act like it's a Moto X is a waste of effort . (IMHO)
It like putting dual exhaust and chrome headers on a "Rice Rocket".
It's just a great little old cheap phone.
I have a low budget phone and am buying a excellent tablet such as the Nexus 9.
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Trying to make the Moto G (2nd) act like it's a Moto X is a waste of effort . (IMHO)
It like putting dual exhaust and chrome headers on a "Rice Rocket".
It's just a great little old cheap phone.
I have a low budget phone and am buying a excellent tablet such as the Nexus 9.
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What is the problem with rooting the phone and putting a custom ROM on it?
It's not about "pimping" it out, I want features that i'm missing from my Nexus 4 which are purely software and that can not be adequately replicated with crap like Xposed.
Also, I consider Xposed malware as it is essentially a vulnerability (yes, I know, it depends on the Module, but still).
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What is the problem with rooting the phone and putting a custom ROM on it?
It's not about "pimping" it out, I want features that i'm missing from my Nexus 4 which are purely software and that can not be adequately replicated with crap like Xposed.
Also, I consider Xposed malware as it is essentially a vulnerability (yes, I know, it depends on the Module, but still).
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I should of clarified my position better.
The Moto G is the first phone that I haven't rooted.... (yet)
However you can be sure when I get my Nexus 9 I'll be screwing around with all the rom's and features as their made available.
kdkinc said:
I should of clarified my position better.
The Moto G is the first phone that I haven't rooted.... (yet)
However you can be sure when I get my Nexus 9 I'll be screwing around with all the rom's and features as their made available.
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Ah, I see
No harm done then
sent from my Moto G 2nd Gen
I didn't rooted mine yet, but there's a few reasons for me to root:
Ads are anoying as fu*k;
Xposed framework for me is essential;
And a bunch of other apps that i need root to use. I'm just waiting the lollipop to root
Moto G is the first phone I didn´t root right at the start til now and because of this I must say that I never ever thought that there are so many ads! I´t s a headache,all that crap.
So I consider to root just for Adaway. Ok,Titanium and some other apps are not bad to have too.
But is it better to wait until lollipop? Returning to stock seems not to be that easy. For me it´s a hard decision.
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I didn't rooted mine yet, but there's a few reasons for me to root:
Ads are anoying as fu*k;
Xposed framework for me is essential;
And a bunch of other apps that i need root to use. I'm just waiting the lollipop to root
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Really ads are a fuc*king headache, I have been looking for some way to disable ads without root, but there isn't a way, sadly this is one of the things I would root for...
Thank you for your reply..
Wolfcity said:
Moto G is the first phone I didn´t root right at the start til now and because of this I must say that I never ever thought that there are so many ads! I´t s a headache,all that crap.
So I consider to root just for Adaway. Ok,Titanium and some other apps are not bad to have too.
But is it better to wait until lollipop? Returning to stock seems not to be that easy. For me it´s a hard decision.
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kdkinc said:
Trying to make the Moto G (2nd) act like it's a Moto X is a waste of effort . (IMHO)
It like putting dual exhaust and chrome headers on a "Rice Rocket".
It's just a great little old cheap phone.
I have a low budget phone and am buying a excellent tablet such as the Nexus 9.
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You are rich my friend you can buy anything you want, for people like us who only have a budget of 100 to 150 bucks this phone is great, Now for me I won't be able to buy anything phone or tablet till next year ?, I wish I could buy nexus 9, I think it is priced some 28k₹, That's like too much for me right now...
I wish I could have money like you people..
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