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Flashed Desire Sense rom, now virtually no internal memory??

Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.

Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
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When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
ken

Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.

that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory

According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?

rugmankc said:
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
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ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space

those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.

I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?

petecdun said:
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there

I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.

Beat You bagofcrap24
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Ken

[Q] move file to the REAL EXTERNAL SD

peple, i can't believe is so hard to find information about this big problem.
HOW CAN I MOVE INSTALLED APPS TO MY EXTERNAL SD??
I tried all "App2SD" in google play, but looks like Optimus 2x mount its SD in a different way, so what these apps does is move apps to/from internal memory (it is not the same as internal sd??? why 2?) and internal sd.
So i boght a 32GB sd for just videos and mp3???
I googled and found a link talking about "Mod Install Location".
Well, this "Mod Install" doesn't work too. I can't install news apps in external sd nor can i move installed apps.
No one bottered with this situation too???? Is impossible to move installed files in Optimus 2x do the external SD?

install CM7 Custom ROM

siibel said:
install CM7 Custom ROM
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What exactly that does?
But i want to try another ROMs. There is not another way?
Another question about this SD problem: looks like that after flash roms and firwares the internal sd will be totally wiped. Well, so Titanium Backup is useless for Optimus 2x, as it doens't let choose directory for backups. Solution?

presuntinho said:
What exactly that does?
But i want to try another ROMs. There is not another way?
Another question about this SD problem: looks like that after flash roms and firwares the internal sd will be totally wiped. Well, so Titanium Backup is useless for Optimus 2x, as it doens't let choose directory for backups. Solution?
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+1 on CM7. That ROM will render your internal SD useless as EVERYTHING can be thrown to the external SD.
I have Titanium Backup Pro and there's an option to choose the backup location in preferences. I'm pretty sure it's also present in the free version.
(TB is very useful for me. Enough for me to purchase it.)

If you are using app2sd from market to move your application to sdcard, meaning you can do it manually from your application manager, each and every app you click will have a button to move to sd. App2sd market app just simplifies this process. Please note that this method only moves some app files to the sdcard not all of it, it will still leave app dalvik and app user data on the internal memory.
The real app2sd/app2sd+/data2sd that creates a link from your internal phone data partition and relocate your data folder to external sd are script based, and you have to make a ext3/4 partition on your external sdcard in addition to your fat32 partition. This is what you need If you want to totally move all data to external sdcard.
I have not seen ppl making tutorials using this script in o2x forum, because the 1.5gb app space is good for most people, unless if you have alot of games in your phone. For what I know the app2sd+ script is universal for all phones, you may just need to make some modifications to the script to make it work on every specific phone type/model.
About the flashing firmware wiping internal sd, I have not encountered such issue. For what reason do you flash a firmware? I havent tried flashing rom the official way since you can just use cwm to flash rom, but I flash baseband alot of times, no internal sd wipes, but it does wipe data partition.

TB doesn't let you change the backup folder like that. You have to copy the "TitaniumBackup" folder with a few backup files to where ever you want and then the app scans for folders with backups.

salisbury_steak said:
+1 on CM7. That ROM will render your internal SD useless as EVERYTHING can be thrown to the external SD.
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But i will lost the 8 GB of this "internal SD" or i can still use it?
You have games installed in the external SD? They run as faster as in the internal?
Thanks

Chris4evernoob said:
TB doesn't let you change the backup folder like that. You have to copy the "TitaniumBackup" folder with a few backup files to where ever you want and then the app scans for folders with backups.
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After flashing a ROM or firware i just open TB and it will recognize the old backups? I just install TB and then overwrite with the old folder?
Thanks

tablighs said:
If you are using app2sd from market to move your application to sdcard, meaning you can do it manually from your application manager, each and every app you click will have a button to move to sd. App2sd market app just simplifies this process. Please note that this method only moves some app files to the sdcard not all of it, it will still leave app dalvik and app user data on the internal memory.
The real app2sd/app2sd+/data2sd that creates a link from your internal phone data partition and relocate your data folder to external sd are script based, and you have to make a ext3/4 partition on your external sdcard in addition to your fat32 partition. This is what you need If you want to totally move all data to external sdcard.
I have not seen ppl making tutorials using this script in o2x forum, because the 1.5gb app space is good for most people, unless if you have alot of games in your phone. For what I know the app2sd+ script is universal for all phones, you may just need to make some modifications to the script to make it work on every specific phone type/model.
About the flashing firmware wiping internal sd, I have not encountered such issue. For what reason do you flash a firmware? I havent tried flashing rom the official way since you can just use cwm to flash rom, but I flash baseband alot of times, no internal sd wipes, but it does wipe data partition.
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If i use the external sd with ext3/4 using the entire space, i will able to send file using usb, bluetooth, etc? I mean, there is any colateral?
Moving all data to MicroSD make the apps run slowly?
2 big games are enough to almost fill the entire internal memory.

tablighs said:
About the flashing firmware wiping internal sd, I have not encountered such issue. For what reason do you flash a firmware? I havent tried flashing rom the official way since you can just use cwm to flash rom, but I flash baseband alot of times, no internal sd wipes, but it does wipe data partition.
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Well, maybe is my enlglish that is horrible, but that is what i understand reading this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26191714&postcount=3
"Installing this file WILL fully wipe your device, including the Internal SD. Back up!"
So:
1 Changing the ROm will wipe the internal sd?
2 Changing the firware (firmware and baseband are the same thing, correct) will?

presuntinho said:
If i use the external sd with ext3/4 using the entire space, i will able to send file using usb, bluetooth, etc? I mean, there is any colateral?
Moving all data to MicroSD make the apps run slowly?
2 big games are enough to almost fill the entire internal memory.
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If you use app2sd+ script method, everything will function normally. A class 6 or 10 sdcard can perform as fast as your internal phone storage. You may wear your sdcard faster though since it is being regularly used and accessed.
The only problem is to fine the script itself that is specifically customised for o2x, I myself do not know how to do it, although I used it before for my HTC Desire phone, but that was long time ago and the script was integrated in custom roms since htc desire only has 150mb app space.

presuntinho said:
Well, maybe is my enlglish that is horrible, but that is what i understand reading this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26191714&postcount=3
"Installing this file WILL fully wipe your device, including the Internal SD. Back up!"
So:
1 Changing the ROm will wipe the internal sd?
2 Changing the firware (firmware and baseband are the same thing, correct) will?
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Yes, all threads will say that, its just cautionary purposes. I just recently reflashed my baseband to v20c a a month ago using smartflash, it did wipe my rom data, but not my internal sd. But just incase, make a backup of everything, it doesn't hurt to do that.

tablighs said:
If you use app2sd+ script method, everything will function normally..
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but to use apps2sd +script i need to have a partition ext3 or ext4, right? This partition in ext3 will work with usb, bluetooth, etc?
It is a good option to have the enitre microsd in ext3 instead 1 partition in ext3 and 1 in fat32?
Thanks

presuntinho said:
but to use apps2sd +script i need to have a partition ext3 or ext4, right? This partition in ext3 will work with usb, bluetooth, etc?
It is a good option to have the enitre microsd in ext3 instead 1 partition in ext3 and 1 in fat32?
Thanks
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The ext partition will always be mounted for android system, so you cannot access via pc. You need a fat32+ext3/4 partitions combo.
First you need to know how much storage do you need for apps, please note that I think the internal 1.5gb app storage will be left unused if you decide to link your data (which will fool android system thinking it is phone memory) folder to your external sd.
We have talk too much on this topic but I myself is unsure whether you can find the script to run on o2x. Maybe its time for you to take some time on how to actually find and modify one so it works for o2x. I cannot help you on that at all. Keep us posted if you have any progress.

tablighs said:
The ext partition will always be mounted for android system, so you cannot access via pc. You need a fat32+ext3/4 partitions combo.
First you need to know how much storage do you need for apps, please note that I think the internal 1.5gb app storage will be left unused if you decide to link your data (which will fool android system thinking it is phone memory) folder to your external sd.
We have talk too much on this topic but I myself is unsure whether you can find the script to run on o2x. Maybe its time for you to take some time on how to actually find and modify one so it works for o2x. I cannot help you on that at all. Keep us posted if you have any progress.
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But can i alternatively make a backup of big games in the sd so i don't need to download 700 MB every time i want to install it again? As already said Titanium Backup will not do that. I could cut and paste only the backup of the game i want to sd, but Titanium show the name of backups in a way wich is dificult to read among many files. Plus i am not sure TB will backup all data of the game.

[Q] use SD as main storage?

This is what I am currently doing: I made a 1GB ext4 partition, and i link all my apps to that using Link2SD.
This is working and i maintain about 100MB free on my internal memory. I have seen some other screenshots of ACE users, that somehow trick their phones to thinking that the Sd partition is the internal memory and everythign will automatically install there, and in system storage it reports the total space as that of the partition and not the ~100 MB.
how can i do this? what apps do I need

hshaikh said:
This is what I am currently doing: I made a 1GB ext4 partition, and i link all my apps to that using Link2SD.
This is working and i maintain about 100MB free on my internal memory. I have seen some other screenshots of ACE users, that somehow trick their phones to thinking that the Sd partition is the internal memory and everythign will automatically install there, and in system storage it reports the total space as that of the partition and not the ~100 MB.
how can i do this? what apps do I need
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there's a script called "amarullz sd-ext" or similiar thing like that.....
here's the link
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310309

123r4ka456 said:
there's a script called "amarullz sd-ext" or similiar thing like that.....
here's the link
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310309
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that looks confusing as hell. and he doesnt even use an ace. before i try it and may ruin something, has anyone tried this with an ace

Lol. What u describe there is what the amarullz script doing, swapping internal memory with sdcard and made phone think sdcard is the phone memory for app data.

hshaikh said:
that looks confusing as hell. and he doesnt even use an ace. before i try it and may ruin something, has anyone tried this with an ace
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LOL, just copy and paste script and set permission.....
dont need to read the whole thread

looking at his picture, it seems like he will be saving more files on the internal memory as opposed to what im doing now where everything is on SD. is that not counter intuitive

hshaikh said:
looking at his picture, it seems like he will be saving more files on the internal memory as opposed to what im doing now where everything is on SD. is that not counter intuitive
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yes, but the creator said it will improve overall performance.
the more you install app = more dalvik cache
and one day, your internal memory become full.....of dalvik cache

so is there a way to still have everything on the SD card, but also have the phone think that the 1GB partition is the internal memory

[Q] Problems with application memory. How to increase it?

Hello!
I've installed a SlimKat rom (4.4.2), and I've installed two apps, both 30MB, and now I can't install any app, because it says: "Not enough memory". I've noticed on applications, that only 1,8GB is used, and 200MB is free. And now, there is a question: How to increase this memory, if the phone has internal 16 GB of memory, to make apps use more of it, like from this 2GB to 4GB or sth. On previous ROM's that I've installed I had the same problem, but it was like 300mb available, and I was able to move some apps to SD card, but not every app is movable, so plese, help me increase this available memory for applications.
Thanks.

Check you data partition and delete the lost+found folder..

nokiamodeln91 said:
Check you data partition and delete the lost+found folder..
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Lost-found folder was empty.

Data/logs?

nokiamodeln91 said:
Data/logs?
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Data /data 35mb that are needed, logs empty. Its a fresh ROM, installed after full whipe, no unwanted files found SO far, but i don't know what uses this 1.8 gigs of memory...

Use SD maid to scan files.. It should show some info you need.

I did data whipe and installed ROM again, now it's ok. Dunno what used this 1.8 gigs of memory.

[Q] Internal Storage Missing 4GB

I am missing roughly 3 to 4GB of space on my internal storage. Long story short -- flashed cm11.0_golden.nova.20141127.ODIN_TWRP the first couple of tries it failed mainly due to me not knowing how to enter into recovery mode. After about 4 or 5 tries I figured it out and all was well. Then I notice a large chunk of my internal storage is missing. I enter recovery mode and format all internal storage. I gain a few hundred MB. I cannot see those missing GB of space at all. My best guess is that those first few unsuccessful attempts at flashing the rom are still there in the internal storage taking the space I am missing. Is there any way to repartition the internal storage? I have used all of the methods available to me with TWRP and have had no success in gaining that storage back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

davesunday said:
I am missing roughly 3 to 4GB of space on my internal storage. Long story short -- flashed cm11.0_golden.nova.20141127.ODIN_TWRP the first couple of tries it failed mainly due to me not knowing how to enter into recovery mode. After about 4 or 5 tries I figured it out and all was well. Then I notice a large chunk of my internal storage is missing. I enter recovery mode and format all internal storage. I gain a few hundred MB. I cannot see those missing GB of space at all. My best guess is that those first few unsuccessful attempts at flashing the rom are still there in the internal storage taking the space I am missing. Is there any way to repartition the internal storage? I have used all of the methods available to me with TWRP and have had no success in gaining that storage back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Guessing you have S3 mini soo i have same "issue" it's actually the phone itself takes around 3-4 GB i have usable 4.64 gb and i have 8GB model.

So is this just the normal amount of space taken up by the system? And yes mine is an 8GB model also.

Yes guys it's normal if you have 4GB.
4GB for system and 4GB for user

When i look at how much storage total it lists 4.72GB. For available space it shows 4.27GB. Will the 4GB taken up by the system not be shown? I just figured that it would list close to 8GB total with X amount taken by system. Im pretty sure this is how it was before I flashed the phone.

davesunday said:
When i look at how much storage total it lists 4.72GB. For available space it shows 4.27GB. Will the 4GB taken up by the system not be shown? I just figured that it would list close to 8GB total with X amount taken by system. Im pretty sure this is how it was before I flashed the phone.
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Could it be the missing 4GB is the partition of the system? I am using stock ROM also can only access about 4GB for saving files and apps. Maybe the CM11 itself using 4GB for OS process and pre-installed/bloatware apps? Just my guest.
You can try to reach the missing space using 3rd party apps such as XDA File Manager. BUT, I wont dare to do anything to the 'hidden files', as I know it could damage your system. That's why they made it invisible to normal/average user (like me). Unless you know what and which files to be played with.
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Naimlaaa said:
Could it be the missing 4GB is the partition of the system? I am using stock ROM also can only access about 4GB for saving files and apps. Maybe the CM11 itself using 4GB for OS process and pre-installed/bloatware apps? Just my guest.
You can try to reach the missing space using 3rd party apps such as XDA File Manager. BUT, I wont dare to do anything to the 'hidden files', as I know it could damage your system. That's why they made it invisible to normal/average user (like me). Unless you know what and which files to be played with.
{PARDON MY ENGLISH}
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But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?

fabiocaruso said:
But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
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I'm also interested in repartitioning it, I successfully made it for a Galaxy S2 and my Note N7000... I used a specific pit file flashed with Odin... is there any pit file for GT-I8190 8 Gb? Thanks in advance!

fabiocaruso said:
But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
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Im not sure about CM11, but with Slimrom is about 1.23GB. You can see this using Titanium Backup in the overview.
gt-i8190n using SlimKat(Android-Andi) marinated F_Kernel(Fred8861)
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tomnic said:
I'm also interested in repartitioning it, I successfully made it for a Galaxy S2 and my Note N7000... I used a specific pit file flashed with Odin... is there any pit file for GT-I8190 8 Gb? Thanks in advance!
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Hi there. Can you tell me more about partition setting/tweaking. I think i've screwed some of it while playing with terminal command.
gt-i8190n using SlimKat(Android-Andi) marinated F_Kernel(Fred8861)