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How to do a complete backup? (lost apps on the internal SD)

So I had my phone working and decided to try a kernel found here.
I went on, flashed the kernel through cwm, and nothing worked (stuck at loading screen with continous reboots).
So I flashed my recovery image, rebooting stopped by stuck it was at the loading screen anyhow.
So, since I could not come out of it, I downloaded a stock rom (I was running stock by the way), flashed it (with smartflash), rooted it (superoneclick), installed cwm (now v5) and I'm back on.
So I flashed the recovery, and most of the data is back but I lost all the apps on the SD card.
The SD card is the same from which I flashed the recovery image through CWM, and all my music is still there.
So might it be possible that the apps are still there too?
What can I do?
Why all the SD apps disappeared?
Edit: ok maybe we're talking about internal SD card... may it be the CWM v5 doing recovery from a v4 zip?

had this problem very, very, often...
nobody really could help me, but i know, its because of problems with the android_secure folder.
so i´m not an expert and i really don´t know what s the reason, but i tried some things and sometimes it helped...
it can appear if something goes wrong when you install an app or move an app from phone to sdcard, or when you want to restore them with titanium or cwm.
the possibiltythat it happens increases when you do both at the same time or, move many apps at the same time p.e. with gemini or install many apps at the same time (p.e. with panda pc suite).
or if something goes wrong with a market update.
mostly, it starts that you can´t install apps anymore. after reboot all apps on sd are away.
with luck you can repair it and get the apps back.
-delete the market cache.
-delete file smdl2tmp1.asec in android_secure folder on sd card or in mnt/... secure.. damn forgot the path of the second folder where this file can be. gotta google for it.
-or create a new android_secure-folder. unmount sdcard. rename android_secure folder to something different, so that there´s no more an android_secure folder. put sdcard back in the phone, reboot the phone. there will be a new empty android_secure folder. shut phone down, put sdcard into pc again, copy all files from renamed folder to the new android_sd folder, put card back into the phone, restart it and wait. with luck, your apps are back again.
don´t now, maybe it helps when you delete dalvik cache and cache before restart. sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
in your case, your apps are away after restore and not because of install/move2sd issues... so in this case its important to completely delete android_secure folder before restore. make a fullwipe. and after fullwipe i would restart phone once, so that a new clean android_secure folder could be created. hope something helps.
edit:
i did a little trick, that my external sd is mounted as sdcard in my phone. so normally the internal sd card is the "sdcard" in the phone. so, cos you can´t put your internal sd into the pc, you gotta mount it with usb connection.

Thanks but I'm afraid in this case the content really got deleted after I reflashed the rom...
IS there a way to really save everything via cwm?
Or should I use another software?
Also if flashing baseband: what will get deleted?

Flashing baseband will wipe /data

Rusty! said:
Flashing baseband will wipe /data
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And how does /data relate to my problem?
Is /data backed up by cwm or not?
What is not backupped by cwm and how to backup it?

Rusty! said:
Flashing baseband will wipe /data
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but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?

punyategar said:
but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?
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If you mean baseband then the answer is no. It restores your ROM and all the apps including their data.

punyategar said:
but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?
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Assuming you remembered to back it up yeah.
My radio flash procedure is:
NANDroid backup
Smartflash radio
NANDroid restore
Push new RIL
Use phone

Rusty! said:
Flashing baseband will wipe /data
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I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.

You may not think so, but it does.

kitty's_daddy said:
I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.
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Definitely wipe /data
Both Rusty! And myself always test new basebands and it definitely wipe /data.
Edit: sorry I'm referring to smartflash.

temasek said:
Definitely wipe /data
Both Rusty! And myself always test new basebands and it definitely wipe /data.
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I think you would be correct.
It's only my opinion.

i use kdz tool, no user data will lost, only system(happened on me 2 times). don't use smartflash it will wipe all data

kitty's_daddy said:
I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.
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dont know about kdz, official updater didn't touch my /data at all. i mean, my apps were just as before, the settings...

just use titanium backup and make sure the save location is in the sd card
For certain apps that have their own way of saving data, it might not always work.

I just can't find the correct answer in the posts I've read so far.
If I flash a kernel that doesn't work, and then I restore a CWM backup, why it wouldn't boot again?
If I reflash the stock rom and then restore a previous CWM backup, why something won't be there?
What exactly should I do in CMW to obatin a complete backup?
Or should I use something else?

[Q] Loop - does nandroid restore delete intern data?...No!!! :)

Hi,
I have a Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE (7320) with Ichi Arlic Rom 4.0.4 for months now and everything run fine.
Today I got a few FC (first time ever with this rom) and I thought, better doing a nandroid backup before sth happens...
Well in the CWR hit the backup button...failed...everytime (even with cach/dalvic wipe) the backup freezed for hours...no way to do a backup.
When I restarted System I got a loop now...so I cannot save my data!
Q1: Is it possible to get usb mass to work?!
In Download Mode my PC recognized the tab, but no mass storage is mounted.
My CWR has v. 5.5.0.4. without a file manager so i even cannot delete my broken nandroid backups and my tab ran full.
Q2: When I reflash an old clear/empty nandroid backup (*.zip) does this delete my internal data?! Cause my Tab dont have an SDCard...
Thx in advance for tipps!!
Greetz, Rob

Re: [Q] Loop - does nandroid restore delete intern data?
To question 2, it will not delete your internal memory. You can use adb to pull info for your first question, but I'm not that familiar on how to use it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727

jd1639 said:
To question 2, it will not delete your internal memory. You can use adb to pull info for your first question, but I'm not that familiar on how to use it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
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noooo way...after i tried a restore from a clean nandroid i got a message "error while restoring /data"
holy moly...

Re: [Q] Loop - does nandroid restore delete intern data?
Rob1972 said:
noooo way...after i tried a restore from a clean nandroid i got a message "error while restoring /data"
holy moly...
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You got something else going on. Restoring a nandriod will not delete data on the internal sd card.
What recovery are you using?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727

done!!
Rob1972 said:
noooo way...after i tried a restore from a clean nandroid i got a message "error while restoring /data"
holy moly...
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even with the error message the tablet is back alive...booting softly with all data!!
maybe the error occured cause I had no space left in the tab cause of all the broken nandroid backup attempts...
Now I quick do a backup and a clean flash...
Everything fine!
Thx Bro!!

Phone Frozen after flash

I was using CM10.1 RC1 by bieltv.3. After he updated the the rom to RC2 I flashed it today after taking a back up.
I then restored the apps I used to have on my SD card, rebooted and moved to SD. Then I restored the remaining apps (twitter, swiftkey etc). The phone froze when i tried to set un check the notification for swiftkey. I waited for sometime and removed the battery.
On restart it loaded until my lock screen. I was waiting for dash clock to load but it didn't only to find out my phone had frozen again. Tried this twice without any success. So i reflashed the ROM after wiping cache/ data/ system/ dalvik cache. It now got stuck on the screen where i select the language.
I then decided to restore the backup taken from CWM 5.2.0.6. While restoring .android_secure it failed.
When i tried to wipe data it got stuck while wiping .android_secure.
Then I reflashed CWM and then wiped again. This time the wipe worked.
Then i tried flashing the RC1 that I had been running all this time. It too got stuck on the language selection screen.
Wiped everything again and now I'm trying to restore the CM10.1 Backup again. Currenly it's been waiting on restoring .android_secure for the last 15 mins. Not really sure what to do.
I'm currently out of ideas. Need help
Update: I tried to do an advanced restore and only restored the boot and system but it still gets stuck and then reboots/ or just stays stuck. it does unfreeze for a few seconds some times but then freezes again :/
after I wipe the dalvik cache if i select show log i get
failed to mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 (no such file or directory)
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After reading about it I have come to the conclusion that my Internal SD partition is corrupt / damage since I can't mount SD-EXT
Am I correct?

iFeelYouJohanna said:
I was using CM10.1 RC1 by bieltv.3. After he updated the the rom to RC2 I flashed it today after taking a back up.
I then restored the apps I used to have on my SD card, rebooted and moved to SD. Then I restored the remaining apps (twitter, swiftkey etc). The phone froze when i tried to set un check the notification for swiftkey. I waited for sometime and removed the battery.
On restart it loaded until my lock screen. I was waiting for dash clock to load but it didn't only to find out my phone had frozen again. Tried this twice without any success. So i reflashed the ROM after wiping cache/ data/ system/ dalvik cache. It now got stuck on the screen where i select the language.
I then decided to restore the backup taken from CWM 5.2.0.6. While restoring .android_secure it failed.
When i tried to wipe data it got stuck while wiping .android_secure.
Then I reflashed CWM and then wiped again. This time the wipe worked.
Then i tried flashing the RC1 that I had been running all this time. It too got stuck on the language selection screen.
Wiped everything again and now I'm trying to restore the CM10.1 Backup again. Currenly it's been waiting on restoring .android_secure for the last 15 mins. Not really sure what to do.
I'm currently out of ideas. Need help
Update: I tried to do an advanced restore and only restored the boot and system but it still gets stuck and then reboots/ or just stays stuck. it does unfreeze for a few seconds some times but then freezes again :/
after I wipe the dalvik cache if i select show log i get
failed to mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 (no such file or directory)
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After reading about it I have come to the conclusion that my Internal SD partition is corrupt / damage since I can't mount SD-EXT
Am I correct?
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Did you try to fash a Stock via Odin, then flash root + cwn 5.0.2.6. fix and finally flash CM10.1 again and restore your back up?
I think your partitions are corrupted... Were you using sd-ext scripts? as int2ext? wel try with the first method

Viper The Ripper said:
Did you try to fash a Stock via Odin, then flash root + cwn 5.0.2.6. fix and finally flash CM10.1 again and restore your back up?
I think your partitions are corrupted... Were you using sd-ext scripts? as int2ext? wel try with the first method
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I wasn't using any scripts.
I used odin and flashed the stock rom. Phone starts up goes to unlock screen and all looks fine. after about 1 min the phone starts to lag very very badly until it stops responding and then shuts down completely.
Didn't root or flash cwm still.

Maybe the files got corrupted somehow. Try downloading the ROM again and use another SD card.
That might fix it.
Good luck.

iFeelYouJohanna said:
I wasn't using any scripts.
I used odin and flashed the stock rom. Phone starts up goes to unlock screen and all looks fine. after about 1 min the phone starts to lag very very badly until it stops responding and then shuts down completely.
Didn't root or flash cwm still.
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Try doing wipes after odin flashing

Viper The Ripper said:
Try doing wipes after odin flashing
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I forgot to mention i did wipe data and cache after flashing via odin. So that didn't help
Edit- ok I noticed my sd card wasn't being detected so I removed it and rebooted and everything seems to be fine :/
Can a faulty sd card slow down/ make your phone become unresponsive?

iFeelYouJohanna said:
I forgot to mention i did wipe data and cache after flashing via odin. So that didn't help
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And dalvik cache?

nikwen said:
And dalvik cache?
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Yeah root it and flash cwm and then wipe dalvik cache if not try to flash a custom stock rom after odin fashing e.i. rooted and cwm installed after odin flash

Viper The Ripper said:
Yeah root it and flash cwm and then wipe dalvik cache
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And afterwards do that: (also use a fresh downloaded CWM)
nikwen said:
Maybe the files got corrupted somehow. Try downloading the ROM again and use another SD card.
That might fix it.
Good luck.
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Final Update:
The whole thing was caused by my SD card. I should have checked how the phone responds to with the SD card removed.
I'm suspecting it must have happened while using Titanium backup. Good thing I managed to get most of the titanium back up files copied to my PC so I can restore them later.
Things I overlooked: the phone only locked up a few seconds after it starts (i.e. gets to the lock screen). That's when the phone detects the SD card.
I need to figure out how to format the card now since I don't have another method to connect to the PC and the phone isn't detecting the card.
Thanks for all the help.

Is it detecting the card in CWM? If so, you could format it that way.
I got a miniSD card adapter with my phone? Did you not?

iFeelYouJohanna said:
Final Update:
The whole thing was caused by my SD card. I should have checked how the phone responds to with the SD card removed.
I'm suspecting it must have happened while using Titanium backup. Good thing I managed to get most of the titanium back up files copied to my PC so I can restore them later.
Things I overlooked: the phone only locked up a few seconds after it starts (i.e. gets to the lock screen). That's when the phone detects the SD card.
I need to figure out how to format the card now since I don't have another method to connect to the PC and the phone isn't detecting the card.
Thanks for all the help.
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so your Sd card was corrupted, use a micro sd reader

Managed to format the SD by mounting USB using CWM.
CWM refused to format saying the card was read only. but the pc did a quick format

iFeelYouJohanna said:
Managed to format the SD by mounting USB using CWM.
CWM refused to format saying the card was read only. but the pc did a quick format
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Great. :good:

[Q] Browsing a TWRP backup?

So, somehow I got my phone into a bootloop, and I made a backup of my data partition with TWRP. I reset it, and tried to restore the data partition, and the corrupted file is in there (was trying to edit settings.db for hotspot on Sprint). Anyways, when I restore the data partition, it bootloops again. So I want to get into the backup, and replace the bad settings.db file so I can restore the partition and have all my data back. How can I browse the backup using my windows 8.1 pc?
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you cant. why are you restoring your data partition? that wont boot up, since its system that you edited. restore the whole nandroid backup, boot, system, and data. and if you didnt make a backup of boot or system, then reflash your rom to fix it. flash it dirty, as to not lose your data. and if you dont have a rom to flash, then youre stuck having to flash the factory img.

simms22 said:
you cant. why are you restoring your data partition? that wont boot up, since its system that you edited. restore the whole nandroid backup, boot, system, and data.
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I only did data. The backup was AFTER it was in the bootloop, so I only backed up data.

ilarson008 said:
I only did data. The backup was AFTER it was in the bootloop, so I only backed up data.
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ahh.. then in no way will it get restored, since its the system partion that you actually messed with. data just holds all your user data, thats all.

simms22 said:
ahh.. then in no way will it get restored, since its the system partion that you actually messed with. data just holds all your user data, thats all.
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That is EXACTLY what I want to restore. All my apps, settings, pictures, etc etc etc.
I've got the phone factory reset, on and working.

ilarson008 said:
That is EXACTLY what I want to restore. All my apps, settings, pictures, etc etc etc.
I've got the phone factory reset, on and working.
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now you can try to restore your data. your sd card stugf, like photos, dont get deleted until you wipe or format your storage.

simms22 said:
now you can try to restore your data. your sd card stugf, like photos, dont get deleted until you wipe or format your storage.
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When i restore the data backup, the phone goes into a bootloop and will not boot.

ilarson008 said:
When i restore the data backup, the phone goes into a bootloop and will not boot.
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well, unfortunately, it doesnt seem to be a good back up
if you factory rest again, have google restore your stuff. itll restore your apps, and main settings, and even wallpaper. and your photos are in your storage already. unless you didnt have it enabled to back up everything in the main settings.

simms22 said:
well, unfortunately, it doesnt seem to be a good back up
if you factory rest again, have google restore your stuff. itll restore your apps, and main settings, and even wallpaper. and your photos are in your storage already. unless you didnt have it enabled to back up everything in the main settings.
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I have never had luck with auto backup. It doesn't seem to capture everything. Plus there were things that I stored on internal storage (used to be my SD card on my Samsung phones ) that wouldn't have been backed up, like my Pokemon saved game. I knew I should have copied my internal storage before trying to restore, but I thought the data backup would have done it. Great.

Not sure if this is what your looking for but try nandroid manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore
Edit: thats on device only, sorry about that. I had an issue in the past where I didn't have any apps saved via TiBu and had only a TWRP backup. Installed a clean ROM, rooted and then used the app posted to browse the backup on my phone and restore the vital apps that I needed. (Like google authenticator)... Good luck

Question Does TWRP backup everything?

I'm planning to backup my current ROM using TWRP before switching over to another one. If I selected everything on the TWRP backup screen, how much data will this include? Will I be able to restore it and have everything run exactly the same as it is now? App data? Files? System settings?

notBradPitt said:
I'm planning to backup my current ROM using TWRP before switching over to another one. If I selected everything on the TWRP backup screen, how much data will this include? Will I be able to restore it and have everything run exactly the same as it is now? App data? Files? System settings?
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It does NOT backup everything. TWRP only backups the operating system. If you flash the wrong file or change the wrong setting, which can / will cause bricks, then TWRP is used to restore the OS to the original state you backed up. Internal storage files are not backed up, nor app data.

immortalwon said:
It does NOT backup everything. TWRP only backups the operating system. If you flash the wrong file or change the wrong setting, which can / will cause bricks, then TWRP is used to restore the OS to the original state you backed up. Internal storage files are not backed up, nor app data.
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Ah I see, so I have to backup files manually, but the app data too? I was under the impression that the so-called NANDroid backups at least includes app data

notBradPitt said:
Ah I see, so I have to backup files manually, but the app data too? I was under the impression that the so-called NANDroid backups at least includes app data
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Yes, it will backup app data. Btw, you really need to select the boot, system, and data partitions. For the other partitions, you can keep separate backups (in case of a bad restore). On that note, your first restore might appear broken; try restarting the phone; it should boot fine the next time around.
Cheers.

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Yes, it will backup app data. Btw, you really need to select the boot, system, and data partitions. For the other partitions, you can keep separate backups (in case of a bad restore). On that note, your first restore might appear broken; try restarting the phone; it should boot fine the next time around.
Cheers.
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Got that. Thank you so much