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How to do a complete backup? (lost apps on the internal SD)

So I had my phone working and decided to try a kernel found here.
I went on, flashed the kernel through cwm, and nothing worked (stuck at loading screen with continous reboots).
So I flashed my recovery image, rebooting stopped by stuck it was at the loading screen anyhow.
So, since I could not come out of it, I downloaded a stock rom (I was running stock by the way), flashed it (with smartflash), rooted it (superoneclick), installed cwm (now v5) and I'm back on.
So I flashed the recovery, and most of the data is back but I lost all the apps on the SD card.
The SD card is the same from which I flashed the recovery image through CWM, and all my music is still there.
So might it be possible that the apps are still there too?
What can I do?
Why all the SD apps disappeared?
Edit: ok maybe we're talking about internal SD card... may it be the CWM v5 doing recovery from a v4 zip?

had this problem very, very, often...
nobody really could help me, but i know, its because of problems with the android_secure folder.
so i´m not an expert and i really don´t know what s the reason, but i tried some things and sometimes it helped...
it can appear if something goes wrong when you install an app or move an app from phone to sdcard, or when you want to restore them with titanium or cwm.
the possibiltythat it happens increases when you do both at the same time or, move many apps at the same time p.e. with gemini or install many apps at the same time (p.e. with panda pc suite).
or if something goes wrong with a market update.
mostly, it starts that you can´t install apps anymore. after reboot all apps on sd are away.
with luck you can repair it and get the apps back.
-delete the market cache.
-delete file smdl2tmp1.asec in android_secure folder on sd card or in mnt/... secure.. damn forgot the path of the second folder where this file can be. gotta google for it.
-or create a new android_secure-folder. unmount sdcard. rename android_secure folder to something different, so that there´s no more an android_secure folder. put sdcard back in the phone, reboot the phone. there will be a new empty android_secure folder. shut phone down, put sdcard into pc again, copy all files from renamed folder to the new android_sd folder, put card back into the phone, restart it and wait. with luck, your apps are back again.
don´t now, maybe it helps when you delete dalvik cache and cache before restart. sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
in your case, your apps are away after restore and not because of install/move2sd issues... so in this case its important to completely delete android_secure folder before restore. make a fullwipe. and after fullwipe i would restart phone once, so that a new clean android_secure folder could be created. hope something helps.
edit:
i did a little trick, that my external sd is mounted as sdcard in my phone. so normally the internal sd card is the "sdcard" in the phone. so, cos you can´t put your internal sd into the pc, you gotta mount it with usb connection.

Thanks but I'm afraid in this case the content really got deleted after I reflashed the rom...
IS there a way to really save everything via cwm?
Or should I use another software?
Also if flashing baseband: what will get deleted?

Flashing baseband will wipe /data

Rusty! said:
Flashing baseband will wipe /data
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And how does /data relate to my problem?
Is /data backed up by cwm or not?
What is not backupped by cwm and how to backup it?

Rusty! said:
Flashing baseband will wipe /data
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but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?

punyategar said:
but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?
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If you mean baseband then the answer is no. It restores your ROM and all the apps including their data.

punyategar said:
but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?
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Assuming you remembered to back it up yeah.
My radio flash procedure is:
NANDroid backup
Smartflash radio
NANDroid restore
Push new RIL
Use phone

Rusty! said:
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I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.

You may not think so, but it does.

kitty's_daddy said:
I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.
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Definitely wipe /data
Both Rusty! And myself always test new basebands and it definitely wipe /data.
Edit: sorry I'm referring to smartflash.

temasek said:
Definitely wipe /data
Both Rusty! And myself always test new basebands and it definitely wipe /data.
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I think you would be correct.
It's only my opinion.

i use kdz tool, no user data will lost, only system(happened on me 2 times). don't use smartflash it will wipe all data

kitty's_daddy said:
I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.
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dont know about kdz, official updater didn't touch my /data at all. i mean, my apps were just as before, the settings...

just use titanium backup and make sure the save location is in the sd card
For certain apps that have their own way of saving data, it might not always work.

I just can't find the correct answer in the posts I've read so far.
If I flash a kernel that doesn't work, and then I restore a CWM backup, why it wouldn't boot again?
If I reflash the stock rom and then restore a previous CWM backup, why something won't be there?
What exactly should I do in CMW to obatin a complete backup?
Or should I use something else?

Backup Data with CWM

When i create a backup in cwm, it creates backups of everything. Can i delete all the files and just keep the data file and restore just that to get back my data if i reflash?
Basicly, what files do i need to keep to restore just data when i reflash a wipe rom?
Just hate having thewse huge files sitting on the phone for no reason

I guess you can delete for example system image, and be able to restore data. You have to try it to be sure
BUT when you reflash and something goes wrong you may need to restore not only data. So it is better to have all these files, just for safety.

Backing up data in SS?

Does backing up data in SS and restoring it after flashing a new ROM will 100 percent restore all of my data? What are the things that I need to backup separately? Sms, contacts, account,..etc?

l34rn said:
Does backing up data in SS and restoring it after flashing a new ROM will 100 percent restore all of my data? What are the things that I need to backup separately? Sms, contacts, account,..etc?
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If your're using B03, the latest safestrap, then everything except the "data/media" folder is backed up, which is your internal storage. As long as you only "Swipe factory Reset" and just flash a ROM, and do not "Format" or "Wipe" data, then your storage will not be wiped, and will always be there. Backing up "Data" will backup everything else including your Settings, SMS, and Contacts, so a full restore from that backup (Restoring System, Cache, Data) should bring your phone back to the exact state where it was in before you did the backup.
If you're using B01, the first safestrap, then everything else is the same, except "data/media" is also backed up, which can make the backup much larger.

shortydoggg said:
If your're using B03, the latest safestrap, then everything except the "data/media" folder is backed up, which is your internal storage. As long as you only "Swipe factory Reset" and just flash a ROM, and do not "Format" or "Wipe" data, then your storage will not be wiped, and will always be there. Backing up "Data" will backup everything else including your Settings, SMS, and Contacts, so a full restore from that backup (Restoring System, Cache, Data) should bring your phone back to the exact state where it was in before you did the backup.
If you're using B01, the first safestrap, then everything else is the same, except "data/media" is also backed up, which can make the backup much larger.
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Thank you for the clarification, this helps a lot

I think I lost all my data

Hi, I want to install custom rom but I think because of encryption I lost my all internal storage :/
Before mi 9t pro, I used an old android phone. Because of that I didn't know too much about encrption.
When I open OrangeFox it asks my password. So I thought remove my password before any rom installation should be enough.
I remove my password. After dirty rom flash my phone didn't boot to system but did boot to recovery.
Guess what? All my file names are random
Before anyone say, I have a backup. But where Yesss it is in internal storage with encryption :angel:
I tried to wipe data, didn't work. I flash my rom mi flash with keeping data, didn't work.
Now my phone boot up, I can see my files with random names.
Why I didn't backup to computer? Because I was lazy.
My big question;
Can I recover my files (~70 gb), I know my old password.

It's a good thing your data wasn't important then, if it was you would have a backup stored on a PC or cloud. First rule of flashing, have a backup. You can't recover it's gone, format data In twrp to remove encryption and wipe your internal storage then flash your rom.

hoopsnake said:
It's a good thing your data wasn't important then, if it was you would have a backup stored on a PC or cloud. First rule of flashing, have a backup. You can't recover it's gone, format data In twrp to remove encryption and wipe your internal storage then flash your rom.
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Yes, it isn't too much important but I'm a little sad. I just lost few whatsapp message.
I will delete everything now. After that, I will disable this encryption.
Thanks
P.S: Whoever read this don't be lazy like me

Question Does TWRP backup everything?

I'm planning to backup my current ROM using TWRP before switching over to another one. If I selected everything on the TWRP backup screen, how much data will this include? Will I be able to restore it and have everything run exactly the same as it is now? App data? Files? System settings?

notBradPitt said:
I'm planning to backup my current ROM using TWRP before switching over to another one. If I selected everything on the TWRP backup screen, how much data will this include? Will I be able to restore it and have everything run exactly the same as it is now? App data? Files? System settings?
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It does NOT backup everything. TWRP only backups the operating system. If you flash the wrong file or change the wrong setting, which can / will cause bricks, then TWRP is used to restore the OS to the original state you backed up. Internal storage files are not backed up, nor app data.

immortalwon said:
It does NOT backup everything. TWRP only backups the operating system. If you flash the wrong file or change the wrong setting, which can / will cause bricks, then TWRP is used to restore the OS to the original state you backed up. Internal storage files are not backed up, nor app data.
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Ah I see, so I have to backup files manually, but the app data too? I was under the impression that the so-called NANDroid backups at least includes app data

notBradPitt said:
Ah I see, so I have to backup files manually, but the app data too? I was under the impression that the so-called NANDroid backups at least includes app data
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Yes, it will backup app data. Btw, you really need to select the boot, system, and data partitions. For the other partitions, you can keep separate backups (in case of a bad restore). On that note, your first restore might appear broken; try restarting the phone; it should boot fine the next time around.
Cheers.

ictsz.roy said:
Yes, it will backup app data. Btw, you really need to select the boot, system, and data partitions. For the other partitions, you can keep separate backups (in case of a bad restore). On that note, your first restore might appear broken; try restarting the phone; it should boot fine the next time around.
Cheers.
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Got that. Thank you so much