[Q] Anyone come from the Z Ultra? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just got a Z Ultra about 10 days ago... awesome phone, I love most things about it.
However, I'm finding it a little too big for normal everyday use... I came from a Note 3, so am used to bigger phones, but the Ultra might just be maybe too big for me - or might just be a matter of getting used to it. And, as many know, the camera on the Ultra is pretty bad - also, the size of it makes it kind of awkward to take a quick snapshot with anyways.
So I'm thinking about the Z1, and in my case, the Z1s would probably be the best option (I'm already on T-mobile pre-paid and need LTE).
But then the problem with that is, the locked bootloader and no root (yet). This is basically what brought me to the Ultra to begin with.
I got the Ultra at a Sony retail store and have about 20 days left to exchange it. I paid full price for the Ultra, so exchanging for the Z1s would be almost an even trade.
So, given the circumstances, any advice? Has anyone come from a Z Ultra and happy they made the switch? Or regret it?
Thanks.

I come from z ultra...and i am bot regretting it...though i dont know why but i like the screen on ultra more...z1 screen is bit washed off as conpared to z ultra...and i like ooption of tiny font size and tiny folder icon size on z ultra...not on z1...
No differenct in sound output...both are bad...
But z1 is better regarding size as now i can use it while running and at gym and anywhere...
But z ultra is more sexy looks wise...so slim...
Camera better on z1....
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I am constantly fighting between the 2. I got the ultra first and loved it until picture time and portability came the ultra lost. The z1 on the other hand is more practical for me as I love to capture pictures and browse. 5.3 - 5.5 z 2 with same optics or better will be the ideal size.
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Z1 or QX100?

Hello Everybody,
I currently have a Z Ultra and an Arc S (need to carry two phones). I have been in a dilemma for a while trying to decide between Z1 and QX100. I know it might sound ridiculous, but it is what it is. Basically, I want to replace my Arc S (which has a wonderful camera) with a Z1. I have seen some excellent shots taken by Z1. If I get the z1, the camera has to be the significantly better than any other ANDROID phone. (and I'd be sacrificing LTE, since only unlocked HSPA version is available in the US, imported unbranded LTE versions won't fully work with my carrier, AT&T). If the camera is just a bit better than the competition, I'll just get the QX100 and call it a day.
What do you guys suggest?
Besides, if anyone happened to own US versions of both XZU (c6806 or c6802) and Z1 (c6902), could you please comment on the displays? I have an XZU (c6806) and its display is easily the best one I have ever seen. Hopefully, US version of Z1 comes with similar panel - just wanted to double check.
Thanks much in advance
schecter7 said:
Hello Everybody,
I currently have a Z Ultra and an Arc S (need to carry two phones). I have been in a dilemma for a while trying to decide between Z1 and QX100. I know it might sound ridiculous, but it is what it is. Basically, I want to replace my Arc S (which has a wonderful camera) with a Z1. I have seen some excellent shots taken by Z1. If I get the z1, the camera has to be the significantly better than any other ANDROID phone. (and I'd be sacrificing LTE, since only unlocked HSPA version is available in the US, imported unbranded LTE versions won't fully work with my carrier, AT&T). If the camera is just a bit better than the competition, I'll just get the QX100 and call it a day.
What do you guys suggest?
Besides, if anyone happened to own US versions of both XZU (c6806 or c6802) and Z1 (c6902), could you please comment on the displays? I have an XZU (c6806) and its display is easily the best one I have ever seen. Hopefully, US version of Z1 comes with similar panel - just wanted to double check.
Thanks much in advance
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Ironically I currently have all 3: Z1, Ultra and the QX100. The Z1's camera is a substantial upgrade over the ultra but not close to the QX100. The QX100 takes much better photos but there is a substantial trade-off in size and dealing with lag to connect. Really depends on your needs. I'd say the Z1 is among the best android cameras but I'm not sure it's significantly better than very best competitors.
The display on the Ultra is much better than the Z1. I'd say the Ultra is the best display I've seen in a mobile device, the Z1 is probably closer to an average quality in a modern mobile. It's not a great comparison for the Z1 if you have them side by side.
If you can find a C6906 from Canada you can get LTE on AT&T.
Thanks a lot, man! I had a slight hope that US version of Z1 might have won the 'display lottery' , since US was probably the last region to get Z1 :crying: I'm probably going to get one though - not sure yet. Viewing angle aside, does your z1 display look as good as XZU if you're looking at it directly?
Thanks!
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Thanks a lot, man! I had a slight hope that US version of Z1 might have won the 'display lottery' , since US was probably the last region to get Z1 :crying: I'm probably going to get one though - not sure yet. Viewing angle aside, does your z1 display look as good as XZU if you're looking at it directly?
Thanks!
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No even directly it doesn't have the contrast range of the Ultra. It's very good but the Ultra really spoils you compared to almost anything else.
Got it - thanks! Sony's evil plan of forcing two devices down my throat seems to be working perfectly this time. Anyways, thanks much for your help.
I tried today in Las Vegas at the Sony store both QX. I was interested too. Conclusion? It is a lag fest. If you are lucky you can see smoothly on your screen the image otherwise you should wait many seconds to get your image back in sync with your screen. I don't know if there are firmware updates for the QX but currently IMHO is not gonna work. I can confirm that Z1 in high lights is a beast. Even compared to the camera phone Nokia 1020. If you care about low lights, this is not your phone.
The display isn't so worse than the ultra at least mine (UK LTE). The ultra is sightly better.
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The display of Ultra is very nice, imagine HTC One in a 6" LCD and you're there, Z1 display is very nice too but not quite as good. Also there is no real comparison between QX100 and Z1. I mean you cant compare a dedicated shooter against a smartphone,
In saying that you cant use the QX100 without a smartphone and thats where things go pear shaped.
QX100 really takes magic shots that easily compare to any PAS or any other digital camera, however the interface between phone and lense sucks balls!

Advice on Xperia Z vs Z1

Hello, I am looking to switch to Tmobile US and I really was drawn to the Xperia Z line of phones being an iPhone guy normally I liked the build quality of them.
My question is, since the Xperia Z1 isn't on Tmobile as of now, should I get the Z and just wait for the Z2 to come out or should I hold out for the likely release of the Z1 on Tmobile? There have been quite a few leaked press shots and other reasons to believe the Z1 is coming to Tmobile US but who knows how long it could be based on the Xperia Z being 5 months late after global release.
I want to switch ASAP from ATT but I don't want to buy the Z and regret it when the Z1 comes out. Is the Z1 that big of an upgrade for anyone who owned the xperia Z? I am coming from iPhone and battery and smoothness are important and those two things seem to be what the Z1 improved on with the Snapdragon 800 and larger battery.
Thanks.
Don't buy Xperia Z. Wait for Z1. It's much better and smoother. I sold my Xperia Z to buy Z1 and I can say that buying Xperia Z is stupid.
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snobrdr2324 said:
Hello, I am looking to switch to Tmobile US and I really was drawn to the Xperia Z line of phones being an iPhone guy normally I liked the build quality of them.
My question is, since the Xperia Z1 isn't on Tmobile as of now, should I get the Z and just wait for the Z2 to come out or should I hold out for the likely release of the Z1 on Tmobile? There have been quite a few leaked press shots and other reasons to believe the Z1 is coming to Tmobile US but who knows how long it could be based on the Xperia Z being 5 months late after global release.
I want to switch ASAP from ATT but I don't want to buy the Z and regret it when the Z1 comes out. Is the Z1 that big of an upgrade for anyone who owned the xperia Z? I am coming from iPhone and battery and smoothness are important and those two things seem to be what the Z1 improved on with the Snapdragon 800 and larger battery.
Thanks.
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If you still like the iphone size factor, wait just a bit longer for z1 mini
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If you still like the iphone size factor, wait just a bit longer for z1 mini
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I actually like the larger screen on the Z that I played with in the store. I just don't know what to do in the mean time especially if they take their time with the Z1 launch to sell of the old ones stock. I need to switch soon to avoid another big ATT bill if I can.
Coming from the Z, I would say that the Z1 is definitely an upgrade. A huge one at that. However if weight's your thing you have to note that the Z1 is 170g which isn't that light compared to the Z. The difference in weight is notable when you hold them...(and your IPhone is lighter so you'll want to take that into consideration)
In terms of smoothness, Z1 never lags. S800 chipset is great, definitely better than the S4 Pro. You won't feel the difference through regular use...
Battery wise Stamina mode will help extend battery life so don't worry about it. But as a power user I can tell you for sure that the bigger battery didn't lead to bigger battery life. Still, I can definitely get through a full day on 1 charge with enough juice to spare...
Hope I helped.
Sonynoob said:
Z1 never lags.
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So why mine lags with Next Launcher? I paid for that 16 usd backs, look awesome but when I unlock the phone from lock screen lags all the time. It is the Launcher or the phone?
eclyptos said:
So why mine lags with Next Launcher? I paid for that 16 usd backs, look awesome but when I unlock the phone from lock screen lags all the time. It is the Launcher or the phone?
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Try another launcher and see if it is the phone or launcher.
eclyptos said:
So why mine lags with Next Launcher? I paid for that 16 usd backs, look awesome but when I unlock the phone from lock screen lags all the time. It is the Launcher or the phone?
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A powerful processor doesn't compensate for a poorly coded app(or not optimized for X device)
Even the super "smooth" iphone 5S can lag with the right app
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Yes, I have also upgraded from Z to Z1, no comparison in terms or performance. Love not having to open a flap to insert my headphones!!! I find the Z1 better to hold in the hand, the Z to me was a little to square and I always felt like the Z was going to fall out of my hand. Love the magnetic charge port. If it was me right now in your position I would not be buying the Z
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Sonynoob said:
S800 chipset is great, definitely better than the S4 Pro. You won't feel the difference through regular use...
Really, I notice a huge difference on a daily basis with mine, I have an email app that marking all my mail messages as read used to take about 5-10 seconds, now well less than 1. No skipping of playing mp3's, draging things to your desktop now pretty much instant, vs a couple of seconds, launching apps way quicker, No lags.
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negrobembon said:
A powerful processor doesn't compensate for a poorly coded app(or not optimized for X device)
Even the super "smooth" iphone 5S can lag with the right app
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Yep with you on that, I would be hounding them to sort it for me if I spent that much money on an app
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Thanks everyone, I decided to pull the trigger on a cheap Z I found to use until the Z1 shows up on tmobile. I plan to sell the Z I got for close to what I paid and buy the Z1 on Tmobiles payment plans. This way I can make sure I like sony phones without too much commitment.
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A powerful processor doesn't compensate for a poorly coded app(or not optimized for X device)
Even the super "smooth" iphone 5S can lag with the right app
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Good to know, I was worry about the phone. AND goot to know they selling crap. Even on my HTC that app was the same.
I did a video a while back about the reasons why you may consider choosing the Z1 over Z. Here it is:

Change to Note 3 or not?

Would you change your Z1 for a Note 3?
I am really considering doing the swap.
This should be posted in General. Anyway, why going for Note 3?
If I could sell my Z1 today, tomorrow I would buy a Note 3 for sure!!!! [email protected]#@$ remorse...
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If I could sell my Z1 today, tomorrow I would buy a Note 3 for sure!!!! [email protected]#@$ remorse...
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What happen with your Z1? mannaia lu purcu...
Nope, not even while high, i mean the screen in the note 3 is awesome but i would never buy another Galaxy device with my own money again
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FiremakerP said:
Would you change your Z1 for a Note 3?
i did it, got 3 defective z1 c6096 with the touchscreen issue and the camera was horrible im very happy with it and the screen size is just perfect. Also more batt life and using a lot the spen only thing i like more was the size of the icons im very very happy with it also phone calls sound lot better and sound is stronger
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No.
my friend has a note 3, it sais he needs to pull the battery out at least once a day since it freezes...
sounds bad to me...
I have a note3 on the way. I will compare and decide. But since I don´t have a tablet and I already had the first Note which I found awesome besides the "looking goofy" when calling I am favoriable to the note3 and since most Bugs are now out of the way I will probably go for it and sell the Z1.
The only drawback will be the camera the Z1 Camera is superior no doubt about that.
If on Kitkat 4.4 for Z1 we will still cannot move the apps to sd I think I will go for Samsung too. Unbelievable but Samsung have this option.
CERO freezes for me in my note 3. excelent smartphone. camera LOT easier to use than z1 that was like a roulette for good pics. like it a lot more. i was in love of Z1 but was the worst phone i have ever had lots of bugs and crappy camera
also front camera is terrible
touch screen bug, too much to say..
Never again sony.
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Nope, not even while high, i mean the screen in the note 3 is awesome but i would never buy another Galaxy device with my own money again
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same as me. I'll never buy any sammy devices again... may be lg(except nexus devices) too.
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You can use adb setpartition to move your apps to sd card
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As long as note 3 runs touchwiz, it's useless.
If you're gonna install aosp ROM or cm, cool.
But then half of the phone will be useless. No s-pen features and all that gimmicky touchwiz stuff.
Stay simple. Stay xperia.
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Moved also to Note 3 after bricking my Z1. As i had a Note 1 before Z1, this was really relaxing for me after messing with Xperia troubles.
I think,i do not want to buy any Sony product for a long time.
My Z1 has been in warranty repair for two months now, this is not good.
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Stay simple. Stay xperia.
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That's a good one.
I'd never buy Samsung device unless it changes it design. Whereas Z1 is gorgeous and it's a pleasure to even look at it, the galaxy line looks like a bunch of "made in china" phones. You guys should try out how much you can flex the back cover of the S4. It's unbelievable.
When I pay premium, then I want to get premium stuff... It's not only the looks, it's the UI, impressive camera, battery life, reception and everything. I'm in love. Never Samsung unless it changes it's design.
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Exynos
FiremakerP said:
Would you change your Z1 for a Note 3?
I am really considering doing the swap.
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do it
u will love note3
in a month i had both note3 and z1 (then sold z1 for mwc)
but really Note3 is something else
and i have N900-Exynos
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I have a Z Ultra and thinking about getting a Z1 - but before that, had a Note 3... actually sold it a few weeks ago to get the Ultra.
I previously had Notes 1 and 2, got 3 but it was just so boring. Touchwiz really hasn't changed much and slows the phone down despite the fast CPU and 3gb ram. The camera on the Note 3 really sucks for indoor shots without a flash. The Xperia phones just feel so much better, higher build quality than the plastic of the Note 3. The back of mine used to creak every time I picked it up, one of the reasons why I decided to sell it.
Overall, the Note 3 is not a bad phone... but if you want all the S-Pen features, you're gonna have to keep Touchwiz on there.
x102x96x said:
do it
u will love note3
in a month i had both note3 and z1 (then sold z1 for mwc)
but really Note3 is something else
and i have N900-Exynos
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100% agree with you.
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What happen with your Z1? mannaia lu purcu...
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First of all let me clarify that I liked the Z1 , but I had the Galaxy S4, exynos version, and have had several problems, so I switch to the Lumia 920, which I hated and now I'm with the Z1. Despite the Z1 is an incredibly fast, fluid and with a great battery smartphone, it has several bugs, for example: faulty microphone, mainly recording on whatsapp, touchscreen has problems almost always, the sound is too low, the camera does not is there all this, expecting more, the screen is a real crap, whitish, very bad at any angle, battery charging is slow, when closing the walkman in the list of recent apps the music stops, or when I pause in the notifications, the notification disappears and no longer appears to play again. Without mention, I miss features of the S4, as all those camera functions, ESPECIALLY the multi-window, better utilization by the edge of the screen, much improvements in the software by Samsung, and also from all sensors. Today I regret having sold the Galaxy S4 and if I could, will be with Note 3. The problem is that I live in Brazil, and here is not easy to switch smartphones due to the extortionate prices.. Sorry bad english, and hope u understand...

[Q] Xperia Z1 vs. Z1s or should I wait for Z2?

Hi everyone,
So I am thinking of getting an Xperia phone, I am a huge Android fan, never used a Sony phone before and currently having a Galaxy S4. I am attracted to Xperia's configuration and wanting to giving it a try. However, I am not sure which one should I pick. Here are couples of questions I am having in mind. Maybe you all can help me decide. Thanks a bunch!!!!
1. Between Z1 and Z1s, which one I am better off with? I know there aren't much differences between them but if I was to go with Z1, will I get LTE 4G network with Tmobile since it is an unlocked phone? I really like the varieties of color choices and I love the purple version.
2. Between Z1 and Z2, since Z2 is coming out soon, should I just wait for it? However, I am hearing rumors that the Z2 won't be launching in the US for a while. Any insider scoops?
Thanks for all of your advice*
Definitely Z2.!
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kcannonball said:
Definitely Z2.!
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Just not sure if Z2 will be launching in US and when, any thoughts?
xsweetdreamx said:
Just not sure if Z2 will be launching in US and when, any thoughts?
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if you get a z1, it can't be from the sony store if you are in the us. you need to get the 6903 6906 or 6943 to get t-mobile lte.
the z1s from tmobile also has no root and is more than likely not an unlockable bootloader..
2. IMHO the only think the z2 has is that 120fps video recording. its pretty much a tweaked z1. would not spend the money on it as it will probably be more than $600 at launch.
wait for the z2 release which is supposed to be soon and it should drop the price of the z1
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if you get a z1, it can't be from the sony store if you are in the us. you need to get the 6903 6906 or 6943 to get t-mobile lte.
the z1s from tmobile also has no root and is more than likely not an unlockable bootloader..
2. IMHO the only think the z2 has is that 120fps video recording. its pretty much a tweaked z1. would not spend the money on it as it will probably be more than $600 at launch.
wait for the z2 release which is supposed to be soon and it should drop the price of the z1
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The z2 also has better screen, dual front facing stereo speakers and 3gb of ram. And a newer chipset s801 a faster version of s800.If I have money to spend , I'd get the z2. If I'm on tight budget or saving money, i'd get the z1 or maybe lg g2 haha..
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My personnel opinion... It depends on your requirement vs. budget.
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joejoe23 said:
The z2 also has better screen, dual front facing stereo speakers and 3gb of ram. And a newer chipset s801 a faster version of s800.If I have money to spend , I'd get the z2. If I'm on tight budget or saving money, i'd get the z1 or maybe lg g2 haha..
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i don't like front speakers since i keep the phone screen against leg, and i know alot of people put their phone face down. so that's mostly preference (phone speakers suck anyways and i rather use headphones) botton or side speakers are harder to have muffled in pockets, etc than front speakers.
kickstand case = front speakers
naked phone = bottom or front (since you are holding it)
and the viewing angles aren't really an issue when using a phone, if you really need such high viewing angles get a phone with an ips display (at those angles either screen looks bad trying to use it, nexus 4,5 and xperia z. no idea how people complain about it)
ram is nice, i'm fine with 2gb. slightly faster s800. doubt the ram and slight performance increase will be worth the price difference.
the only thing that'll really be different between the two is no 120fps on the z1 (for now)
i doubt you'll notice the cpu in games or everyday use, file transfers might be quicker. if you watch videos on your phone with multiple people you might get a better experience, if you are on stock based fw it hopefully won't hog all the ram for no reason (tmo z, sometimes get a launcher redraw, never did on my nex 4. phones are pretty much the same except sony fw hogs ram with nothing running so those 3gb are probably not all that great when you can skip the bloated sony base on the z1 and the z2 might be SOL for awhile and atleast the z to z1 jump was a big difference soc wise).
the z and z1 only do 30fps video recording which isn't as nice as 60 or 120fps for fast moving things (cars, rc things, etc).
pretty much the only 2 (maybe 3) things that will make a big-ish difference in using day to day depending if you actually do any of this with your phone very often are (not in order of easiest to notice)
the front facing speakers
120/60fps video
better viewing angles
oh, that higher cost too
i'd actually record things with my phone if it did 60/120fps.
currently i don't recommend those who've asked if they should get a z1s ($600 and tmobile, new z1 is 510 online and the only z1s's being bought new on ebay are selling for less than a used z1. besides that it feels cheap because plastic bezel (cheap abs glossy plastic. not a nice fiber reinforced).
z2 comes out and the z1 should hopefully go for 450 new or less (which would make the z2 even less of a good idea since it'll have a lower bang for buck than the z1 since it's just a z1+ 2.2-2.3ghz ~100mhz increase in fsb, changed the panel to adress an issue (that is probably due to the ASF which i removed since the glass can still crack, and it's easily scratched plastic) 2-3gb ram.
moved speaker can be a plus
software for the camera may move to the z1
i'm kinda ranting so i'll stop
but just like cars or other electronics newer doesn't guarantee it's better or worth it, only that it is newer and "shinier"
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Definitely Z2.!
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+1
Wait for Xperia z2, wanted to buy Xperia z1, but when I saw Xperia z2, I told bye bye to Xperia Z1 xD
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Z or Z2.
Z1 isn't worth 150€ more than XZ.
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Pull the trigger on this one?

Hi all. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and I'm thinking about buying the Xperia Z3 Compact. Everything about the phone seems great, but with Sony's bi-annual update cycle, I'm not sure what to do. Is it worth it to wait another 3 or so months for a yet unannounced Z4 compact? Or pull the trigger on this?
Thank you.
I don't think z4 will have great improvements.. I have a z3 compact and its great..
There is no official word about a z4 compact
Go for it man! I doubt you'll ever be half satisfied with this. I've had this since December and i'm only loving it more and more
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Z4 Compact? Z2 Compact has never been released, IMVHO the next compact phone will be Z5C
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There is no official word about a z4 compact
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Yeah, I know. Just trying to think ahead, but at the rate technology is moving, there's no way to keep up. Thank you very much all. I'll make the purchase. Like I said, I've only seen great things about this device.
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Yeah, I know. Just trying to think ahead, but at the rate technology is moving, there's no way to keep up. Thank you very much all. I'll make the purchase. Like I said, I've only seen great things about this device.
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The difference between the Z1 and Z3 compact are pretty minimal tbh
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There is no official word about a z4 compact
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yea so far there're only rumors and i'm quite happy with the Z3 compact. i think you should go for the Z3 compact if you really like it.
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The difference between the Z1 and Z3 compact are pretty minimal tbh
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i have owned both of the devices. my old Z1 compact was stolen 4 months ago (damn the thief). so i've been using the Z3 compact for 4 months.
honestly the performance does have some difference. you can clearly feel the Z3 compact is more smooth. but if you are not super sensitive then both devices are good.
another thing is the Z1 compact has the metal frame around. it feels much sturdy and real. while Z3 compact has it changed to plastic. it still looks good. but feels a bit differently. however, the Z3 compact has the glass back cover. even though it doesn't feel much difference comparing to the Z1 compact... i can't tell the back cover of Z1 compact is actually plastic.
so all in all.. from Z1c to Z3c it's for sure a progress. but not too much.
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yea so far there're only rumors and i'm quite happy with the Z3 compact. i think you should go for the Z3 compact if you really like it.
i have owned both of the devices. my old Z1 compact was stolen 4 months ago (damn the thief). so i've been using the Z3 compact for 4 months.
honestly the performance does have some difference. you can clearly feel the Z3 compact is more smooth. but if you are not super sensitive then both devices are good.
another thing is the Z1 compact has the metal frame around. it feels much sturdy and real. while Z3 compact has it changed to plastic. it still looks good. but feels a bit differently. however, the Z3 compact has the glass back cover. even though it doesn't feel much difference comparing to the Z1 compact... i can't tell the back cover of Z1 compact is actually plastic.
so all in all.. from Z1c to Z3c it's for sure a progress. but not too much.
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The display is MUCH better on z3c. My brother has a z1c and the colours on z3c are far better
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Furthermore there are different return policies in different countries. Means you can return it in a certain period of time if you dont like it depending on your country and your retail selling policy.
The phone may not shine in every area but it definitely has its strong sides as regards battery, raw power, size , the ability to withstand water and the easy upgradeable storage space with a micro sd. The dedicated camera button i also find a nice addition.
Downsides are the reported awful customer service (also dependant on your reseller, so read the return policies carefully) , the non replaceable battery and the somehow fragile feeling this phone gives. But this can be solved with a case or the choice of a good protection plan. The camera is as good as expected, not outstanding but not terribly bad either. If i want to shoot good photos I would not use a smartphone anyway. Also if you are a heavy multimedia consumer you might want to check out bigger phones. At last the inbuilt flashlight is pretty weak. So if you want to use your phone as a flashlight you might want to look another way also .
The Iphone 5s is really the only contester worth comparing it to, but i would choose android over ios always. If you dont care about this and need the same one handed usability (this ofc also depends on your hand size )then the 5s might be worth a look.
Now with root available with locked BL i would always recommend this phone no matter what. When it runs it runs fast, reliable and efficient and will get you through a day of heavy or 3 days of light/moderate usage. Which is the main and most important point for me.
I own the phone for 4 months now and never ran into a problem which could not be solved. I would not buy a different one.
Went from Galaxy S3 to Z3 Compact. Couldn't have asked for anything better really
Well i took the plunge and bought the Orange Z3 compact, even after reading some of these threads on some of the faults. I have come from a HTC M8, and i must say, this Z3, is one of the best phones i have ever had, the size of the phone is perfect for me, i never liked big phones, they seemed a bit silly for me.
I am still on stock, i haven't rooted the Z3, but i did root all my previous phones, and in all honestly rooting this phone is the last thing on my mind, it is brilliant as it is, lighting fast, and there is more customization, than any previous phone i have had.
And NO i am not a Sony Fanboy, neither am i being paid by Sony, These are my thoughts, i am so glad i did buy this phone, only thing i miss is a decent weather widget.
So all in all , best thing to do is check the phone out for yourself, then only you can make your decision, never let any one make the decision for you.
Can only confirm the above posts - also coming from a S3. I can promise you - even if you don't root the Z3 right away you will not turn on your S3 anymore. The Z3 outperforms the S3 by a landslide and (in my opinion) even the current, bigger and more expensive "flagships" from other companies by some degree.
My only "mistake" was not looking here before buying it, it was an impulse buy mainly because of the form factor and pure specs (SD card a big one, too). Was a bit annoyed because of not being able to root, actually with the Z3 it was the longest time I spent with an unrooted device ever. But: the positives outweighed the negatives and in the end root is finally available, making this device even better than it is with stock firmware. I'm also happy the constant chase for "the best" custom ROM is finally over, can't imagine how I could ever bare the hassle I had with previous phones/tablets. Stock is just fine and the Z3 does what it is supposed to.
As for the other problems mentioned in these forums:
- front/back glass breaking sponteanously: I use a tempered glass screen protector for the display, nothing for the back. the phone sits in a no name TPU case, I only had to put some work to the slot for the magnetic charger. No cracks whatsoever (yet) - and I'm known to be a magnet for disaster...
- flash LED: compared to your S3 you will probably think: "hey, is this thing really on ??"
It really is weak, but then again - if you need a reliable light, get a Maglite with some batteries to spare. This is a phone. In most cases I use a simple app that simply turns the screen on white at full brightness, that's more than enough for my taste.
- being slippery/attracting dirt: yes. Especially the black one if you intend to use it without a case. It's my first phone that rests constantly in a case, otherwise I would be pushing my luck... I would try to get the white or red one if you can't stand smudges when using it without a case.
- speaker quality: well, look at the size... it ain't good, but not too bad either.
- camera: as mentioned before, not brilliant, but not crap too (even with unlocked BL). It's ok for snapshots mostly.
Biggest pros as mentioned: performance, battery life and (after rooting) full use of the SD card combined with small size and a all in all great display. Being "waterproof" is an added bonus - though I would never take it to the shower or otherwise test this - I just hope it survives the occasional heavy rainstorms I get caught in from time to time when out with the dogs.
I did not regret buying it without contract for the full price.
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Schumi 01 said:
i am so glad i did buy this phone, only thing i miss is a decent weather widget.
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Well, OT :
there are millions of weather apps/widgets out there, I always come back to:
- Arcus Weather
- Weather Timeline
- Weather Pro
Currently I'm using weather pro as this is (at least for me for my region of Germany) the most precise one and I got some play store credit for my chromecast so I gave it a try for a year of pro usage. Not disappointed so far !
The other two are pretty solid, too.
Howlbeck said:
Well, OT :
there are millions of weather apps/widgets out there, I always come back to:
- Arcus Weather
- Weather Timeline
- Weather Pro
Currently I'm using weather pro as this is (at least for me for my region of Germany) the most precise one and I got some play store credit for my chromecast so I gave it a try for a year of pro usage. Not disappointed so far !
The other two are pretty solid, too.
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Thanks will check them out. :good:
Rumors Z4C, it was from a reliable place. Don't remember now, but well see in MWC next month
4.7" screen
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
Qualcomm 810 cat. 9
Quad or Octa core, don't remember.
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shafiq01 said:
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
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Well, that would be an improvement. 3 gigs ?
Never understood why the Z3c can be waterproof whilst relying on flaps when the jack is open... ?
shafiq01 said:
Rumors Z4C, it was from a reliable place. Don't remember now, but well see in MWC next month
4.7" screen
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
Qualcomm 810 cat. 9
Quad or Octa core, don't remember.
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To be honest, I don't think there'll be a Z4C for quite a while as from what I've heard Sony is planning to change their release schedule, to one highend phone per year. Mainly because that is what certain customers want and that Sonys budget ain't that good right now. Developing a new phone costs a ton of money.
Also, please tell me what that source is as this sounds like fake and unjustified rumors.
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Folks, if you don't like a post somebody else has made, and, feel it may violate XDA rules, then just "Report Post" instead of replying to it, and creating multiple posts back and forth that a Mod will have to come in and clean.
Simple enough?
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Sptz said:
Went from Galaxy S3 to Z3 Compact. Couldn't have asked for anything better really
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Same here [emoji106]
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GethPrime said:
To be honest, I don't think there'll be a Z4C for quite a while as from what I've heard Sony is planning to change their release schedule, to one highend phone per year. Mainly because that is what certain customers want and that Sonys budget ain't that good right now. Developing a new phone costs a ton of money.
Also, please tell me what that source is as this sounds like fake and unjustified rumors.
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If these rumors are true, then maybe they will launch their last compact model, before retiring.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/
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shafiq01 said:
If these rumors are true, then maybe they will launch their last compact model, before retiring.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/
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And the before mentioned rumor, I think it could be reliable, gsmarena.com usually hit spot on. Maybe its not true??
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_gets_certified_by_japanese_wireless_authority-news-10798.php
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